You either work for a privacy solution, or you don't. If you're afraid the governments will be hostile to you, then don't work on a privacy service, or do it anonymously (like Monero development). It'd be completely reasonable and respectable. But, you can't have the cake and eat it too. Wasabi should either be "unfairly private" or shut their operations down. The path Wasabi chose was to lie in bed with the enemy, turn pro-censorship, anti-fungibility and sell out their users in general. To me that is unethical for a business of that kind.
did you really think you were going to post on this thread again without apologizing for getting everyone's coins stolen and data exposed? If you think it's so "unethical" then explain why you promoted a custodian that uses chain analysis to confiscate your coins "at any time at its own discretion, with or without reasons, with or without notification assuming no responsibility whatsoever."?
No. I'd explain to them that it is trustless in the sense that thousands of people smarter than both of us have reviewed the code, none of which has reached to a conclusion that Bitcoin does not do what it says it does. If lots of people suddenly reported losing coins from their Bitcoin wallet, I'd absolutely not recommend that piece of software regardless if its source code was free to study or not.
I would absolutely not invite them to study an entire repository, line-by-line, to validate such a thing. Just as I wouldn't invite anyone to study the design of a car and its manufacturer's infrastructure, if their cars were caught to suddenly explode. I would simply stuck to not recommending cars that are said to explode.
If you stick to recommending cars that don't explode, then why did you recommend Chipmixer? Why did you recommend Whirlwind? Why did you recommend Whirlpool?
I'll agree with Lucius here. I presume ChipMixer is very cautious when it comes to protecting their own privacy too. They probably write code, build the site, talk to us in this forum - all via anonymity-focused Internet solutions such as Tor or i2p. If I was running such mixer, I'd be sure I'd sooner or later have authorities stick their nose into my business.
Is there a chance some really big shit is going on in their lives, and they are incapable of going online? For like... A month? I really can't believe this is an exit scam. The service seemed legitimate.
I'm really pissed off, and not because I lost money; fortunately, I had grasped that "don't leave coins to third parties" cliché. I'm so pissed off because I've been advertising and recommending this shit for months, in such a way that I'm practically part of this scam. And it's just feels awful.
It makes you question the integrity of the service you're currently carrying in your signature.
You lured people into
EVERY SINGLE ONE of these rugpulls, yet, you spent years deliberately lying about Wasabi, which is
TRUSTLESS SOFTWARE.While you were attacking trustless open source software, you promoted Mixtum who said
they explicitly perform blockchain analysis on their users and confiscate their users coins "at any time at its own discretion, with or without reasons, with or without notification assuming no responsibility whatsoever."3. Quality scoring of incoming transactions
We run a thorough background check of incoming funds through a proprietary algorithm.
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You are a
traitor to Bitcoin's mission of self custody. You are an
enemy of privacy. And most of all, you are a
SCAMMER. Fuck off of this thread and start focusing on paying back the people who had their money stolen by the services you partnered with.
