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Topic: WAVES - Complete Blockchain ecosystem for a token economy - page 125. (Read 131008 times)
Waves staking is implemented on Tidex!
Now you can get 5% annual reward for the minimum stake of 100 WAVES and 500 Tidex (TDX).
Start staking and receive payouts daily!
Last Friday, we had an awesome time at Waves technology workshop with our community in Warsaw.
Thank you all for your participation and making our event a great success! Hope you learned a lot!
Why is waves so low?
what do you mean low prices if yes about the price it does not matter because as it sometimes goes up sometimes down and now the waves are below the price but for their volume is still good and many people are still investing here, just be patient one day I am sure if the waves prices will rise againThe up and down movement is just normal in crypto trading. However, my main concern is that most of the waves assets are not doing good and almost all of them are not gaining any attention from the trading community. Is there any way to combat the dying waves assets? Honestly, only waves has decent value in the market while its assets created under their network has very little chance of making it good in crypto.
The problem with that is that not so many traders are using waves dex. Maybe I'm wrong. This is the impression that I am getting as when you roam around this forum, very few are discussing the waves dex. It is like a forgotten platform. Waves team should think outside the box on how to sell their system better to create valuable assets.
I think you're right, just look at the trading volume here. Personally I've used Waves DEX only a couple of times to sell my useless MRT tokens (which I'm glad I did) and some VST (and I'm not so glad because I didn't sell them all). Otherwise, there's no point in using Waves DEX, IMHO
I disagree with you slightly on Waves DEX. DEX has the advantage of being a player regarding arbitrage. As long as the BTC gateway is working properly there are many times the opportunity for arbitrage. Not so much for smaller tokens but for Waves/BTC itself.
You said it, only Waves/BTC pair is worth checking for in waves dex. All the others don't matter as they have very little to no volume at all. Dealing with waves dex is actually very easy and tx fee is very economical. But look at the other waves assets, their condition is very dull. This is the reason why you can see very small number of waves assets being created. I don't know how they can market those waves assets but I think something should be done so those assets would at least create impact in the crypto community.
Why is waves so low?
what do you mean low prices if yes about the price it does not matter because as it sometimes goes up sometimes down and now the waves are below the price but for their volume is still good and many people are still investing here, just be patient one day I am sure if the waves prices will rise againThe up and down movement is just normal in crypto trading. However, my main concern is that most of the waves assets are not doing good and almost all of them are not gaining any attention from the trading community. Is there any way to combat the dying waves assets? Honestly, only waves has decent value in the market while its assets created under their network has very little chance of making it good in crypto.
The problem with that is that not so many traders are using waves dex. Maybe I'm wrong. This is the impression that I am getting as when you roam around this forum, very few are discussing the waves dex. It is like a forgotten platform. Waves team should think outside the box on how to sell their system better to create valuable assets.
I think you're right, just look at the trading volume here. Personally I've used Waves DEX only a couple of times to sell my useless MRT tokens (which I'm glad I did) and some VST (and I'm not so glad because I didn't sell them all). Otherwise, there's no point in using Waves DEX, IMHO
I disagree with you slightly on Waves DEX. DEX has the advantage of being a player regarding arbitrage. As long as the BTC gateway is working properly there are many times the opportunity for arbitrage. Not so much for smaller tokens but for Waves/BTC itself.
Hello I have information from a crypto leverage firm and their transaction fees are 80 cents per exchange trade.
If waves increase trading fee to 80 cents and take 15% (12 cents) for company profit the valuation is like this:
Number of users per day: 5000
Number of exchange transactions per day: 50 000
Fee per transaction: 0.003 waves / 150 waves total per day
Profit for company: 15% / 7500 txs / 22.5 waves
Profit per day: $6000
Profit per month: $180 000
Yearly profit: $2.2 million
Price to earnings valuation based on NASDAQ average of x30: $65 million
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Valuation with:
50 000 daily users: $650 million
Max limit based on 1000 tx/s and 25% of total is from exchange trades: 21 600 000
Ratio of trades per active user today: 1.5/1 (7500/5000)
21 600 000 x 0.7 is 15 million daily user limit
Maximum market cap possible from trading fees only: $195 billion
****
But we forget something....
85% of remaining profit is shared between decentralized userbase according to Leased proof of stake model
This is 65 milllion more transactions per day
Total market cap 195 billion plus 195 billion: $400 billion
P/E on maturity for decentralized userbase is lowered to x10 multiple otherwise market cap is nearly $800 billion.
If P/E 10 on maturity for company & userbase combined: $260 billion market value of waves platform.
Price to earnings of ten is more common on traditional large cap stock index.
I have written earlier how to gain 15 million users per day. Two things that can be implemented is leverage and crypto credit by leasing tokens and escrow smart contract. Third is merchant payment gateways and fortune 500 onramping with branded tokens. Stellar have shopify partnership. Other things is UI upgrade (so that interface looks well polished like a computer game) and gamification with micro rewards for using platform.
If waves increase trading fee to 80 cents and take 15% (12 cents) for company profit the valuation is like this:
Number of users per day: 5000
Number of exchange transactions per day: 50 000
Fee per transaction: 0.003 waves / 150 waves total per day
Profit for company: 15% / 7500 txs / 22.5 waves
Profit per day: $6000
Profit per month: $180 000
Yearly profit: $2.2 million
Price to earnings valuation based on NASDAQ average of x30: $65 million
****
Valuation with:
50 000 daily users: $650 million
Max limit based on 1000 tx/s and 25% of total is from exchange trades: 21 600 000
Ratio of trades per active user today: 1.5/1 (7500/5000)
21 600 000 x 0.7 is 15 million daily user limit
Maximum market cap possible from trading fees only: $195 billion
****
But we forget something....
85% of remaining profit is shared between decentralized userbase according to Leased proof of stake model
This is 65 milllion more transactions per day
Total market cap 195 billion plus 195 billion: $400 billion
P/E on maturity for decentralized userbase is lowered to x10 multiple otherwise market cap is nearly $800 billion.
If P/E 10 on maturity for company & userbase combined: $260 billion market value of waves platform.
Price to earnings of ten is more common on traditional large cap stock index.
I have written earlier how to gain 15 million users per day. Two things that can be implemented is leverage and crypto credit by leasing tokens and escrow smart contract. Third is merchant payment gateways and fortune 500 onramping with branded tokens. Stellar have shopify partnership. Other things is UI upgrade (so that interface looks well polished like a computer game) and gamification with micro rewards for using platform.
Why is waves so low?
what do you mean low prices if yes about the price it does not matter because as it sometimes goes up sometimes down and now the waves are below the price but for their volume is still good and many people are still investing here, just be patient one day I am sure if the waves prices will rise againThe up and down movement is just normal in crypto trading. However, my main concern is that most of the waves assets are not doing good and almost all of them are not gaining any attention from the trading community. Is there any way to combat the dying waves assets? Honestly, only waves has decent value in the market while its assets created under their network has very little chance of making it good in crypto.
The problem with that is that not so many traders are using waves dex. Maybe I'm wrong. This is the impression that I am getting as when you roam around this forum, very few are discussing the waves dex. It is like a forgotten platform. Waves team should think outside the box on how to sell their system better to create valuable assets.
I think you're right, just look at the trading volume here. Personally I've used Waves DEX only a couple of times to sell my useless MRT tokens (which I'm glad I did) and some VST (and I'm not so glad because I didn't sell them all). Otherwise, there's no point in using Waves DEX, IMHO
BTW, @Waves.support, do you have any plans to make use of WCT in the foreseeable future?
Hello. Currently, the WCT token is used by members of the Waves community to vote in Tokenrating. I do not have any information about further plans with this token. I advise you to follow the announcements
We would like to see the token rating program added to the normal web client for all devices. It seems at this point it only works on windows based waves keeper interface?
Thanks for your feedback and interest related to our platform, it's much appreciated by our side!
Sincerely,
Waves Community Manager
Why is waves so low?
what do you mean low prices if yes about the price it does not matter because as it sometimes goes up sometimes down and now the waves are below the price but for their volume is still good and many people are still investing here, just be patient one day I am sure if the waves prices will rise againThe up and down movement is just normal in crypto trading. However, my main concern is that most of the waves assets are not doing good and almost all of them are not gaining any attention from the trading community. Is there any way to combat the dying waves assets? Honestly, only waves has decent value in the market while its assets created under their network has very little chance of making it good in crypto.
The problem with that is that not so many traders are using waves dex. Maybe I'm wrong. This is the impression that I am getting as when you roam around this forum, very few are discussing the waves dex. It is like a forgotten platform. Waves team should think outside the box on how to sell their system better to create valuable assets.
I think you're right, just look at the trading volume here. Personally I've used Waves DEX only a couple of times to sell my useless MRT tokens (which I'm glad I did) and some VST (and I'm not so glad because I didn't sell them all). Otherwise, there's no point in using Waves DEX, IMHO
BTW, @Waves.support, do you have any plans to make use of WCT in the foreseeable future?
Hello. Currently, the WCT token is used by members of the Waves community to vote in Tokenrating. I do not have any information about further plans with this token. I advise you to follow the announcements
We would like to see the token rating program added to the normal web client for all devices. It seems at this point it only works on windows based waves keeper interface?
Imagine if every one on this planet had 1 branded crypto in their name or a name of their choice that could be traded on waves platform.
Every person has 100 million tokens and every time they need something they must pay in their token to the other person or business who provides this service.
And, every one will also receive a steady supply of waves base token per month like basic income that subsidizes food, electricity, basic housing rental, and small extra for other expenses like medicine and hygiene, clothes, transportation and hobby.
The best contributor into this economy will receive other peoples tokens and they are converted to the receiver name so his or hers stack can multiply from 100 million to theoretical maximum of 8 billion x 100 million (100 quadrillion). This person or business would then own the world economy but not the subsidized decentralized basic incomes that is for everyone.
This system is a clean reset of world economy, and true meritocracy based on performance, while also protecting those who can not participate, with basic income. This system cannot be corrupted by fiat interaction, but those who are rich in other assets will still be powerful because those assets can be converted into new economy. But there is a difference in pre crypto economy and post fiat economy, everything in the old world is viewed with suspicion and will decrease in value compared to new economy which is transparent and immutable.
This can be created today, there is no technological problem to implement this.
I think this is where multi trillion crypto market cap will come from, and the basic income token in the future will be AGI powered and paired with humanoid robots who support the basic income by working for free. This is like Rome 2.0 with a slave economy but not human slaves. Rome was built on slavery and imagine how much prosperity that will come from this future. It is unlimited potential.
First who will come are business with branded crypto, then regional government municipalities, and then citizens with their own personal blockchain.
This multi trillion is migrated and added value because of blockchain benefits, it is not flimsy ICOs it is real value, and the project that can provide this base service by indexing the new economy will gain probably 1 trillion dollars or more in market cap. I think there will be more competition than waves, like stellar (but it is valued to $7 billion already with worse UI and networking than waves). Of course the big winner in the future is AGI/Android blockchain that will grow economy from $100 trillion per year to $100 quadrillion or even much more with solar system expansion.
Every person has 100 million tokens and every time they need something they must pay in their token to the other person or business who provides this service.
And, every one will also receive a steady supply of waves base token per month like basic income that subsidizes food, electricity, basic housing rental, and small extra for other expenses like medicine and hygiene, clothes, transportation and hobby.
The best contributor into this economy will receive other peoples tokens and they are converted to the receiver name so his or hers stack can multiply from 100 million to theoretical maximum of 8 billion x 100 million (100 quadrillion). This person or business would then own the world economy but not the subsidized decentralized basic incomes that is for everyone.
This system is a clean reset of world economy, and true meritocracy based on performance, while also protecting those who can not participate, with basic income. This system cannot be corrupted by fiat interaction, but those who are rich in other assets will still be powerful because those assets can be converted into new economy. But there is a difference in pre crypto economy and post fiat economy, everything in the old world is viewed with suspicion and will decrease in value compared to new economy which is transparent and immutable.
This can be created today, there is no technological problem to implement this.
I think this is where multi trillion crypto market cap will come from, and the basic income token in the future will be AGI powered and paired with humanoid robots who support the basic income by working for free. This is like Rome 2.0 with a slave economy but not human slaves. Rome was built on slavery and imagine how much prosperity that will come from this future. It is unlimited potential.
First who will come are business with branded crypto, then regional government municipalities, and then citizens with their own personal blockchain.
This multi trillion is migrated and added value because of blockchain benefits, it is not flimsy ICOs it is real value, and the project that can provide this base service by indexing the new economy will gain probably 1 trillion dollars or more in market cap. I think there will be more competition than waves, like stellar (but it is valued to $7 billion already with worse UI and networking than waves). Of course the big winner in the future is AGI/Android blockchain that will grow economy from $100 trillion per year to $100 quadrillion or even much more with solar system expansion.
Why is waves so low?
what do you mean low prices if yes about the price it does not matter because as it sometimes goes up sometimes down and now the waves are below the price but for their volume is still good and many people are still investing here, just be patient one day I am sure if the waves prices will rise againThe up and down movement is just normal in crypto trading. However, my main concern is that most of the waves assets are not doing good and almost all of them are not gaining any attention from the trading community. Is there any way to combat the dying waves assets? Honestly, only waves has decent value in the market while its assets created under their network has very little chance of making it good in crypto.
The problem with that is that not so many traders are using waves dex. Maybe I'm wrong. This is the impression that I am getting as when you roam around this forum, very few are discussing the waves dex. It is like a forgotten platform. Waves team should think outside the box on how to sell their system better to create valuable assets.
I think you're right, just look at the trading volume here. Personally I've used Waves DEX only a couple of times to sell my useless MRT tokens (which I'm glad I did) and some VST (and I'm not so glad because I didn't sell them all). Otherwise, there's no point in using Waves DEX, IMHO
BTW, @Waves.support, do you have any plans to make use of WCT in the foreseeable future?
Hello. Currently, the WCT token is used by members of the Waves community to vote in Tokenrating. I do not have any information about further plans with this token. I advise you to follow the announcements
Why is waves so low?
what do you mean low prices if yes about the price it does not matter because as it sometimes goes up sometimes down and now the waves are below the price but for their volume is still good and many people are still investing here, just be patient one day I am sure if the waves prices will rise againThe up and down movement is just normal in crypto trading. However, my main concern is that most of the waves assets are not doing good and almost all of them are not gaining any attention from the trading community. Is there any way to combat the dying waves assets? Honestly, only waves has decent value in the market while its assets created under their network has very little chance of making it good in crypto.
The problem with that is that not so many traders are using waves dex. Maybe I'm wrong. This is the impression that I am getting as when you roam around this forum, very few are discussing the waves dex. It is like a forgotten platform. Waves team should think outside the box on how to sell their system better to create valuable assets.
I think you're right, just look at the trading volume here. Personally I've used Waves DEX only a couple of times to sell my useless MRT tokens (which I'm glad I did) and some VST (and I'm not so glad because I didn't sell them all). Otherwise, there's no point in using Waves DEX, IMHO
BTW, @Waves.support, do you have any plans to make use of WCT in the foreseeable future?
WAVES has shot itself in the foot with this huge inflation. We'll see $0.1 WAVES in the next few years.
surprised by all this even though the team has done very well and the project is running very smoothly, the team is always updated with the development of the project but why is the price on the market always going down? 
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WAVES has shot itself in the foot with this huge inflation. We'll see $0.1 WAVES in the next few years.
discussion will be without any end with this:
https://blog.wavesplatform.com/waves-community-driven-monetary-policy-e9018d35b911
WAVES has shot itself in the foot with this huge inflation. We'll see $0.1 WAVES in the next few years.
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With the latest update to Ride compiler, we introduce FOLD
The feature is now available in all Waves development tools (IDE, VSCode plugin, surfboard) and across all environments: mainnet, testnet, stagenet.
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Hey Warsaw! We've got your Friday night plans covered!
Join our use-case driven workshop on designing smart contracts&dApps on Waves. The event will also include introduction to the Waves ecosystem, meeting Waves devs, and a hands-on coding challenge.
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If you want more volume on the dex you need to get the web client running fast and smooth. Right now it is very slow to low on normal low bandwidth connections. Often it wont load the wallet balance or orderbook on slow connections making the dex dead to folks using the web client. High speed performance is crucial for the web client to get more volume
And just to add regarding their Waves DEX. They should also focus on making the platform more appealing to the eye of its customers. I don't know about other people but the aesthetics of their platform is somehow a "meh" to me. Add that to the sluggishness of the site and people will definitely stay away from their DEX and will just check other exchange that provide quality service to its traders. And I have to agree with you about their orderbook. It is very confusing and take note, I'm not a newbie trader so I know how to navigate different trading platforms but man, I don't think the person who designed it even traded cryptocurrencies from other website/exchange.
Why is waves so low?
what do you mean low prices if yes about the price it does not matter because as it sometimes goes up sometimes down and now the waves are below the price but for their volume is still good and many people are still investing here, just be patient one day I am sure if the waves prices will rise againThe up and down movement is just normal in crypto trading. However, my main concern is that most of the waves assets are not doing good and almost all of them are not gaining any attention from the trading community. Is there any way to combat the dying waves assets? Honestly, only waves has decent value in the market while its assets created under their network has very little chance of making it good in crypto.
The problem with that is that not so many traders are using waves dex. Maybe I'm wrong. This is the impression that I am getting as when you roam around this forum, very few are discussing the waves dex. It is like a forgotten platform. Waves team should think outside the box on how to sell their system better to create valuable assets.
I think you're right, just look at the trading volume here. Personally I've used Waves DEX only a couple of times to sell my useless MRT tokens (which I'm glad I did) and some VST (and I'm not so glad because I didn't sell them all). Otherwise, there's no point in using Waves DEX, IMHO
If you want more volume on the dex you need to get the web client running fast and smooth. Right now it is very slow to low on normal low bandwidth connections. Often it wont load the wallet balance or orderbook on slow connections making the dex dead to folks using the web client. High speed performance is crucial for the web client to get more volume
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