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The bot logs in with user name, make a new post with the lovely pictures  Wink and does log off.

oh yay, the awesome waves.support lol Tongue
the same high support-level as in their Discord channel... hundreds of users online, but a ghosttown on the part of Waves-team. Posting "ETH giveaway" scam-links there? No problem. Imo unbelievable, this "we don't give a flying f*ck"-feeling from WavesHQ-side towards their investors everywhere. 💩

Hey there! Could you please clarify what threads on Discord are missing answers from the team? We'll sort it out!
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When do you repair deposit on OKEx?
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The bot logs in with user name, make a new post with the lovely pictures  Wink and does log off.

oh yay, the awesome waves.support lol Tongue
the same high support-level as in their Discord channel... hundreds of users online, but a ghosttown on the part of Waves-team. Posting "ETH giveaway" scam-links there? No problem. Imo unbelievable, this "we don't give a flying f*ck"-feeling from WavesHQ-side towards their investors everywhere. 💩
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BOT which talks here?

Not often, but he talks only when he wants. He does only what he wants to do but looking like the propaganda machine. Smiley

The bot logs in with user name, make a new post with the lovely pictures  Wink and does log off.
When the user like to "talk" with us, the user does the login, make a new post ("talks" to us) and log off.

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What no support? There is and they are posting almost every day?

@Waves.support there is something wrong with your  images as they are not  displaying..

They are posting with a bot.

I can see all the pictures here. Sometimes it helps when you clear you cache.


BOT which talks here?

Not often, but he talks only when he wants. He does only what he wants to do but looking like the propaganda machine. Smiley

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It appears that yield farming APY is largely derived from new buyers entering a pool with money inorder to sustain payments to themselves and other pool liquidity providers.

The APY is drawn from the added capital and used to pay investors.

External revenue sources are marginal and insignificant compared to xxx% APY which is impossible to sustain on stablecoin network fees which are below 0.1% per trade.

This is the definition of ponzi:

https://coinmarketcap.com/alexandria/article/what-is-yield-farming

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/p/ponzischeme.asp


"A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investing scam which generates returns for earlier investors with money taken from later investors."


I would advice against waves joining the DeFi mania based on its present form as this is not a healthy or viable business method.

You will gain short term user adoption and parabolic profit but cause long term damage to waves when the ponzi disintegrates.

My main concern is this toxic asset promising xxx% APY:

https://medium.com/swop-fi/where-is-swop-fi-pools-high-apy-coming-from-4fedca21cd86

But Bernie Madoff used ~10% APY for his long running ponzi and the stablecoins on waves dex are in this range so they must still be audited to confirm revenue source such as from trading fees.

Masternodes did this in 2018, I invested in alot of masternodes with a few thousand dollars and every single one of them was -99% 1 year later.

https://masternodes.online/

Masternodes was also a Ponzi because new investors were used to pay xxx% APY and the system collapsed when investors stopped providing liquidity.

Any scheme that focuses on hype and flashiness to this level, where the main objective is promoting returns, is in the ponzi risk category.

DeFi could probably evolve to enable real user loans without liquidity risk but this APY is then similar to normal lending platforms that already existed for years. These loans must be locked on user account if there is no KYC or credit requirement, and the money can only be used to reinvest in specific cryptos.

I would definately borrow $20 000 with $200 monthly repayment to buy waves, it is 12% APY, Price would go into triple digit if this was enabled, it is realistic form of DeFi, why use ponzi when there is real possibilities with DeFi.

Liquidations is a source of big problems I discovered from using high margin leverageon Binance. To say that it is fraudulent is an understatement, I have never seen this dragnet level of investor fraud being perpetrated daily on Binance where big leveraged positions are wiped either by a neural network liquidation bot or chinese sweatshop workers. And a few seconds after, -10-20% flash crash, price goes back to normal.

As long as DeFi is as profitable in its current form, expect no real evolution.

But new investors deserve to understand that DeFi right now = ponzi

Lots of bs technichality and cool sounding names, still the same centuries old con artistry.

I always said that BTC core insider community came from criminal origins with silk road, they simply evolved from thuggery into white collar crime.

In 2021, investors are too smart to be fooled, because it is a simple google search. But it can be tricky to spot at first glance with the new platform "DeFi" to perpetrate the scam. And lots of hype to obfuscate critical analysis.

Maybe if I made $100k from waves rally, I would not analyze this market or care, but the King who does not pay his knights, will not be king for long.

If someone lost large money on Binance and think it was from manipulated market, my advice is to do something about it, you need to find out who is working at Binance and confront them. Forget legal recourse although this will come in time and bring down Binance.

I did not personally lose anything on this leverage fraud but I see that people lose alot every day, so if you are one of them, you need to take action because you are victim of crime, it is not normal market behaviour.

I moved away from waves to TurtleNetwork.

It did not pump yet because there is no Ponzi activity on this network.

Developers are European and there does not appear to be any criminal community from the old school BTC gangbangers in TN, but who knows maybe it is even bigger scam.

If they want to mess with TurtleNetwork, they must first buy it like everyone else. I belive that crypto is a military target for sabotage to protect centralized status quo. I think this criminal operations is partially false flags perpetrated by states to sabotage crypto but it is well known that NSA is already intercepting transatlantic fiberlanes and can use your computer similar to remote desktop, this includes all your seed passwords and every single click and website you view. You may aswell consider this computer a loan from CIA unless you are top 0.001% of hacker community with technical knowledge to hide yourself.

So my point is that maybe they don't even need false flags in crypto, they are so omnipotent anyway. Full Spectrum Dominance, land, sea, air, space, communications, socio-economic.

I don't think waves devs did this ponzi trick on purpose. Waves is not native DeFi, it is wrapped.

It is normal for them to jump the bandwagon, of course technical experts dont understand history of fraud economics, it is normal.

My family is Jewish Ashkenazi economic investment bank founders, but know nothing about technologic intricacies of blockchain.

Who can be expert at everything?

https://www.eurazeo.com/en/company/shareholding/shareholding/

There is no need to panic if you are waves investor, this ponzi was captured very early and did not have time to cause damage.

Maybe it can trigger w4 to $2.43 in combination with vaccines, spring time and lockdown ending.

But today I see that government upgraded to N95 mask requirement and corona increases alot, so it is not time yet, maybe $42.7 first.

Waves is one of the best cryptos with best foundations to create wealth, so even if it goes down it will go to $3000 after 5 years if everything goes to plan. Biggest risk if human corruption, tech is strong.
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What no support? There is and they are posting almost every day?

@Waves.support there is something wrong with your  images as they are not  displaying..

They are posting with a bot.

I can see all the pictures here. Sometimes it helps when you clear you cache.
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Are there more projects planned on waves blockchain to work in similar way like Swop, and maybe something like uniswap exchange for waves?
It has much lower fees than ethereum and good potential for growth this year.

Binance Smart  Chain has little fees and it already  has many LP/AMM projects running now..

Waves is the right address to ask!!!

But not here in this thread because here is no support from the waves team.  Undecided

What no support? There is and they are posting almost every day?

Meanwhile Waves price dropped under 10 USD..

@jerry0 you need to  create new acount with ledger and have to transfer your Waves there
@Waves.support there is something wrong with your  images as they are not  displaying..
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What yield farming app will give you the best results? 🌾🤑

Following a recent live stream, Waves' developer advocate Inal Kardanov compiled a comparative table of best known yield farming options. Such metrics as APYs, fees, staking opportunities and many more are considered.

Check out this handy yield farming guide.
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Can someone here tell me which method i should do then here?  Again, i have my waves seed with me.  And i used to write it on a new waves wallet each time waves went from one wallet to another... like back then it was the chrome waves lite client... then the waves dex... and then the waves exchange.


Woudn't i still need to type in my waves seed though if i want to get my waves in the waves exchange wallet into my nano ledger s wallet?

I don't have a ledger but did you have ask the waves.exchange Support?
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Did waves.exchange wallet make a change again in the layout/how you log in?


I haven't logged into my waves.exchange account in a long time.  When i used to log in, i had to type in my password when accessing the waves.exchange wallet.  Back then i used waves lite wallet and the waves wallet and then it was the waves.exchange.



Right now, i see option is log in by


Email
ledger
software - log in via seed, private key or keystore file (not recommended)




Since i never connected my waves wallet with my nano ledger s, i assume i can't do that now.  So i have to use either email or software right?  And software is my seed?  Which would you recommend?


Also, why does waves keep changing all these things?  Back then the waves lite was with the google chrome store... then it changed to Waves New Dex.... then the waves.exchange.


So what do you recommend to log in with it?  Email or seed?  I previously had to type in my seed a while back when i used the waves new dex and then the waves.exchange so i assume do that?  But that mean everytime after this, i need to type my waves seed every single time?  So there is no more accessing waves account by password?  I don't understand this.







Can someone here tell me which method i should do then here?  Again, i have my waves seed with me.  And i used to write it on a new waves wallet each time waves went from one wallet to another... like back then it was the chrome waves lite client... then the waves dex... and then the waves exchange.


Woudn't i still need to type in my waves seed though if i want to get my waves in the waves exchange wallet into my nano ledger s wallet?
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Waves is the right address to ask!!!

But not here in this thread because here is no support from the waves team.  Undecided

Yes, you are right! Unfortunately Waves doesn't care very much for all the true waves fans! Maybe that's the reason because Waves is not one of the first 10 of CMC! Sad
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Waves is the right address to ask!!!

But not here in this thread because here is no support from the waves team.  Undecided
xyz
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When will we get the NSBT Airdrop on Binance?

I asked 2 time already. That communication is rly the only bad thing with Waves. Just answere in this thread or give any information. Thx

You have to ask Binance.

Seems that the airdrop didn't arrive at binance (and at huobi as well)! Waves is the right address to ask!!!
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When will we get the NSBT Airdrop on Binance?

I asked 2 time already. That communication is rly the only bad thing with Waves. Just answere in this thread or give any information. Thx

You have to ask Binance.
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When will we get the NSBT Airdrop on Binance?

I asked 2 time already. That communication is rly the only bad thing with Waves. Just answere in this thread or give any information. Thx
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Meanwhile, Swop.fi keeps conquering the world! We are thrilled to announce another set of AMA-sessions, related to the project, in local communities. Check the schedule below, find your region, and here we go 👇🏻

February, 24
Waves Latam
Speaker: Sten Laureyssens

February, 24
Waves Korea
Speaker: Sten Laureyssens

February, 24
Waves Brazil
Speaker: Inal Kardanov

February, 24
Crypro Horizon (Arabic)
Speaker: Inal Kardanov

February, 27
Muhabbit (Turkish)
Speaker: Inal Kardanov
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Lucky farmer time! 🌿 Our live stream about yield farming starts in 5 minutes. We'll have a nice discussion and a fun game, in which 10 players will get 5 $WAVES each as prizes for participation. Meet us here!
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Are there more projects planned on waves blockchain to work in similar way like Swop, and maybe something like uniswap exchange for waves?
It has much lower fees than ethereum and good potential for growth this year.
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If USDN implodes and become worthless, that is the definition of pyramid.





https://waves.exchange/trading/spot/USDT_USDN

99 cents USDN/USDT

same problem as WUSD/Waves last year, few cents spread at first, then it accelerates.

It appears that there is zero possibility that USDN Apy from swop.fi is actually backed by any tangible surce of revenue that can sustain 100% apy.

This is weimar republic money printing from thin air, it will implode. Anyone holding USDN is holding massive liability right now, get rid of it.

https://swop.fi/info/3PHaNgomBkrvEL2QnuJarQVJa71wjw9qiqG

You were warned.

This is unbacked ponzi, the apy is paid by your own money, if many try to withdraw at the same time, you will see what will happen because it is nothing there because it is not possible in human history to generate this kind of apy unless ponzi.

Waves has a track record of doing this with especially USD stablecoins:

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I looked at the investment options on waves and most of them seem ok with ~10-20% apy, this is normal and realistic.

problem is USDN swpo fi, it is contaminating the platform. It must be corrected and lowered from xxx% apy to realistic xx% otherwise it will have negative impact for waves.

It is better to stop this early before it balloons into something that cannot be controlled.

Everybody are new to this DeFi, it is normal to be a little bit too eager to get new people into this system but no need to create ponzi.

It appears, USDN also pushed waves price too high after release last year. Whoever sold waves for USDN, is probably holding air.

I have all my monthly salary in waves so I like this to go up, but what I see here is big problem soon if not fixed.

Simply lower apy and prove that there is real USD 1:1 backing for USDN. problem solved.

I did not read about DeFi until yesterday, it is new information but it is very easy to see what the problem is with basic understanding of ponzi.

Maybe you dont care and become greedy now, yes waves can go up to $xxx with this ponzi but after, this is what happens:

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/desire/#charts

you will not be able to sell your profit at the top because waves controls deposit/withdrawal, they decide who gets profit, small buyers always lose.

Waves is one of the best cryptos, price will go up later but why create cheating? It will only slow down progress.

Maybe waves team are inexperienced with this type of scams in Russia. It is common in EU and US.

Waves really was not DeFi native, and now it seems like DeFi is simply new form of Ponzi. So understandbly waves team want in on the action, but it will backfire because you don't know what you are doing.

You only see parabolic profits and think this is good but instead now you become another ponzi like sushiswap. Many Asians will lose money there.

 I  cannot fully agree with you, good observations though, thanks for sharing.
Highest APY I can see on USDC and USDT about 60% last time when I checked it.. USDN interest was lower.
I heard fund staked are used in Eth DeFi farming, which gave big APy and there is a reason of high interest, but there is not so much details about it..
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