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Yeah, he is doing, he moved the card and take another one. It meant he knows about all the cards, It is a proof that casinos could cheat us. But they are professional cheaters that's why they could do it easily and it is their tricks. But i think cheating not happen on online gambling casinos, may be i am wrong but i trust on online gambling.

Duuuude

Read the OP

I've put links of online casinos scamming

I agree there shouldn't be a lot of scams among the provably fair casinos, since they are provably fair - as far as we can tell.

However, live betting is corrupt and it's been caught on camera sometimes.

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Quote from: iluvbitcoins on March 30, 2018, 06:03:33 AM

Just added one to the OP that's not so hidden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3-OssVlvgc

You can actually notice this one if you're paying attention.

Dude moved up a card so he takes another one Cheesy

Yeah, he is doing, he moved the card and take another one. It meant he knows about all the cards, It is a proof that casinos could cheat us. But they are professional cheaters that's why they could do it easily and it is their tricks. But i think cheating not happen on online gambling casinos, may be i am wrong but i trust on online gambling.

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Just added one to the OP that's not so hidden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3-OssVlvgc

You can actually notice this one if you're paying attention.

Dude moved up a card so he takes another one Cheesy

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Quote from: LuanX3 on March 09, 2018, 05:13:46 AM

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on March 06, 2018, 03:06:53 AM

Quote from: iluvbitcoins on March 02, 2018, 05:49:52 AM

Also, I gotta say, this thread turned into something I didn't want it to be.
I started this thread to talk about how casinos cheat, not why!
With proof, links, personal experience etc.
Not random jibber-jabber.

Lock the thread then.

Casinos don’t need to cheat, as their business is quite profitable by itself. The only thing casinos have to do is to attract customers. Big casinos with high traffic don’t cheat, as they are money-making machines.

I won't, because I believe a thread like this is necessary.
There are casinos with scamming behaviour, and a thread to warn and discuss others about it should exist.

Maybe it would be better if you keep on updating the main post whenever you or someone else found some cheats employed by casinos. Also probably changing the title would likely clarify things for the readers as mostly people just base their thoughts on the title. Probably something like "Cheats used by gambling sites/ casinos" or "How do they cheat: A compilation".

That was my original intention.
However, there hasn't been much to update, since there hasn't really been any posts that exposed cheats.

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Quote from: iluvbitcoins on March 09, 2018, 01:13:25 AM

Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on March 06, 2018, 03:06:53 AM

Quote from: iluvbitcoins on March 02, 2018, 05:49:52 AM

Also, I gotta say, this thread turned into something I didn't want it to be.
I started this thread to talk about how casinos cheat, not why!
With proof, links, personal experience etc.
Not random jibber-jabber.

Lock the thread then.

Casinos don’t need to cheat, as their business is quite profitable by itself. The only thing casinos have to do is to attract customers. Big casinos with high traffic don’t cheat, as they are money-making machines.

I won't, because I believe a thread like this is necessary.
There are casinos with scamming behaviour, and a thread to warn and discuss others about it should exist.

Maybe it would be better if you keep on updating the main post whenever you or someone else found some cheats employed by casinos. Also probably changing the title would likely clarify things for the readers as mostly people just base their thoughts on the title. Probably something like "Cheats used by gambling sites/ casinos" or "How do they cheat: A compilation".

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on March 06, 2018, 03:06:53 AM

Quote from: iluvbitcoins on March 02, 2018, 05:49:52 AM

Also, I gotta say, this thread turned into something I didn't want it to be.
I started this thread to talk about how casinos cheat, not why!
With proof, links, personal experience etc.
Not random jibber-jabber.

Lock the thread then.

Casinos don’t need to cheat, as their business is quite profitable by itself. The only thing casinos have to do is to attract customers. Big casinos with high traffic don’t cheat, as they are money-making machines.

I won't, because I believe a thread like this is necessary.
There are casinos with scamming behaviour, and a thread to warn and discuss others about it should exist.

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Quote from: serjent05 on March 07, 2018, 10:53:38 AM

I do not know if it is just me, sometimes when playing a slot.. there are times that it skipped some icons then landing on a different image, is it just a part of the program? It somehow gives an uncomfortable feeling to the player, since the player may think that the casino' games are programmed to have a rig result and not a random one. Anyone experience this kind of stuff?

I also experienced that like even I tried it many times still same result happened and I'm just too eager to win so I kept on trying and it never cross my mind until now that there's also anomaly in casinos. I thought it was just me that can't win. Embarrassed

To think there are many shady act really happen in casinos and sure they'll do anything not to win big their customers. What a shameless people.

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Quote from: krishnaverma on March 08, 2018, 02:05:01 AM

Quote from: Viscore on March 07, 2018, 09:14:48 AM

I am not an IT but I believe some casinos do cheat to win and that is why we have this blockchain and it's widely use in gambling
because it's more transparent and it has renewed the reputation of the gambling sites.
Nowadays, gamblers are also more educated because they do not blame casinos on their loses, instead they accept it because
the house always win due to the house edge.

How can use of another payment medium (blockchain as mentioned by you) going to stop cheating in casinos. They are cheating in the games not with the money deposits or withdrawals. However, I think that the number of casinos doing this will be very less. If a big casino with lot of experienced users start doing this, the players will notcie this sooner or later. Once this report this to the authorities, the license of that casino might get cancelled.

Yes, if an online casino cheats, the possibility of cheating will be revealed more quickly because online casino can be accessed by anyone and from anywhere. There are a lot of smart people out there who are ready to uncover a cheating committed by a casino if that happens.

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Quote from: Viscore on March 07, 2018, 09:14:48 AM

I am not an IT but I believe some casinos do cheat to win and that is why we have this blockchain and it's widely use in gambling
because it's more transparent and it has renewed the reputation of the gambling sites.
Nowadays, gamblers are also more educated because they do not blame casinos on their loses, instead they accept it because
the house always win due to the house edge.

How can use of another payment medium (blockchain as mentioned by you) going to stop cheating in casinos. They are cheating in the games not with the money deposits or withdrawals. However, I think that the number of casinos doing this will be very less. If a big casino with lot of experienced users start doing this, the players will notcie this sooner or later. Once this report this to the authorities, the license of that casino might get cancelled.

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Quote from: richminded on February 28, 2018, 09:10:47 AM

Quote from: Arkham Knight on February 25, 2018, 02:43:52 AM

Those casino owners need to profit of course. Losses for others are gains for them so if they just let most of the players win then they can't operate much longer. It's a dirty tactic but it became a part of that industry.

Gambling is risky and greedy people makes it more risky. I remember one of the game here in my place cheat to every player, its a chess game that when you move any of them you have to place your bet and part of their team pretend to bet on it and will play it first to encourage more people to fall on that trap. What I mean is, gamblers will not win in long run, you will still loss all your money if greed takes over your mind.

Greedy people usually in life are even risky to themselves in the first place because every decision they will always take will always be to their detriment until they change.

It is even one thing to be greedy and it is another thing to even try to be smart even in that greed, but of course, it takes just very little to get a greedy person running hugely out of loss and then complaining about the house cheating when they are actually the ones not facing reality.

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Quote from: serjent05 on March 07, 2018, 10:53:38 AM

I do not know if it is just me, sometimes when playing a slot.. there are times that it skipped some icons then landing on a different image, is it just a part of the program? It somehow gives an uncomfortable feeling to the player, since the player may think that the casino' games are programmed to have a rig result and not a random one. Anyone experience this kind of stuff?

Even though i have no proof either have i been cheated before in a casino before i do believe that there are numerous ways that casino cheat gamblers. Sometimes most of the people who are there playing are hired by the casinos themselves.

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I do not know if it is just me, sometimes when playing a slot.. there are times that it skipped some icons then landing on a different image, is it just a part of the program? It somehow gives an uncomfortable feeling to the player, since the player may think that the casino' games are programmed to have a rig result and not a random one. Anyone experience this kind of stuff?

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I am not an IT but I believe some casinos do cheat to win and that is why we have this blockchain and it's widely use in gambling
because it's more transparent and it has renewed the reputation of the gambling sites.
Nowadays, gamblers are also more educated because they do not blame casinos on their loses, instead they accept it because
the house always win due to the house edge.

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Quote from: bratko99 on February 28, 2018, 03:39:25 PM

I have seen several of these.
And really make me think, but I still gamble lol
Even in real life, there are some stuff like this, if not, they'll take a %. So, they always win.

Lol. Probably because you just do not care if they cheat or not and you are already used to the idea of catching fun in casinos. I even do not see how casinos will never keep winning, and even if they do not cheat, they still have a lot of advantage to keep doing so in the long run while just very few gamblers will be the winning. I have heard several times where they try to cheat, but I have not experienced one before.

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Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on March 06, 2018, 03:06:53 AM

Quote from: iluvbitcoins on March 02, 2018, 05:49:52 AM

Also, I gotta say, this thread turned into something I didn't want it to be.
I started this thread to talk about how casinos cheat, not why!
With proof, links, personal experience etc.
Not random jibber-jabber.

Lock the thread then.

Casinos don’t need to cheat, as their business is quite profitable by itself. The only thing casinos have to do is to attract customers. Big casinos with high traffic don’t cheat, as they are money-making machines.

You cant say such thing.I bet you didnt even tried to watch those links posted in OP?Am i right? They dont really need to cheat but we cant really avoid or neglect that there are several live online casinos do make foolish moves to cheat its players and videos shows on how to do it which is really an obvious thing.I agree if OP do find out that this thread is derailed then better to lock this off.

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^^ Simple logic. A big casino has more to lose then to gain by simple tricks. The game itself has a house advantage, its part of the rules and the casino profits by large volumes. The license and overall setup and running costs to the casino discourage anything that would risk a loss to those assets which includes cheating customers unfairly.

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Quote from: iluvbitcoins on March 02, 2018, 05:49:52 AM

Also, I gotta say, this thread turned into something I didn't want it to be.
I started this thread to talk about how casinos cheat, not why!
With proof, links, personal experience etc.
Not random jibber-jabber.

Lock the thread then.

Casinos don’t need to cheat, as their business is quite profitable by itself. The only thing casinos have to do is to attract customers. Big casinos with high traffic don’t cheat, as they are money-making machines.

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Quote from: JL421 on February 28, 2018, 12:36:09 PM

Quote from: Sangkuni on February 24, 2018, 01:59:25 AM

i heard that roulette ball can be controlled, and the ball will vibrate, and will fall on numbers that are not placed bets... read this article too, as your reference to find "fair" casinos

It is obvious there isn't any casino which claims to he fair so if we see they aren't doing anything wrong I haven't seen any casino stating that they are fair and that they can't predict the future though I have seen very less casino cheating through roulette as it is hard to make it look realistic

Nothing is ever fair and most especially when the probability of the casino winning most of the time is even higher makes it easier for them to keep winning. How will you keep rolling a dice and expecting the same outcome, it is not possible, one way or the other, things would switch until you just see yourself losing everything and same applies to other casino games, one thing is that, one way or the other, the house edge will always have the higher advantage even without cheating.

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