Also, I gotta say, this thread turned into something I didn't want it to be.
I started this thread to talk about how casinos cheat, not why!
With proof, links, personal experience etc.
Not random jibber-jabber.
Topic: Ways casinos cheat - page 2. (Read 578 times)
I think with magnets in the roulette, the ball that falls on the number is rigged. Magnets pull the ball to the number that is probably rigged with some kind of computer system.
I am pretty sure that OP was talking about online casinos, as we can rarely see cheats happen in real casinos as they are being regulated and monitored, but at online casinos you can't really know what is behind the code and you can't really know if black/red on the roulette gives you 48% chance to win and not less.Bitcoin casinos are the most dangerous as most of them are also anonymous and even if you found out that the owner was cheating, you can't really find him and the casino can just disappear without any warnings.
We can rarely see cheats happen in real casinos? :O
Dude, I posted links from real casinos
Magnets are a thing.
Yeah, maybe you can't find a BTC casino owner, but if you lose in a physical casino, what are you going to do? What CAN you do?
Nothing probably.
BTC gambling has provable fairness, physical casinos have nothing.
I thought of creating this thread a couple of weeks ago
I think there should be an active thread with this kind of information
I don't know much about it, but I think we should post things like this to figure out, what NOT to play online
I'll start
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN5a0-WBOxc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoNc8gxvhaI
Okay, this one is pretty obvious, but still reveals the dude knows what's the next card
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBNQK-0Yg5g
I think there should be an active thread with this kind of information
I don't know much about it, but I think we should post things like this to figure out, what NOT to play online
I'll start
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN5a0-WBOxc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoNc8gxvhaI
Okay, this one is pretty obvious, but still reveals the dude knows what's the next card
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBNQK-0Yg5g
I think a lot of people are aware of this but most of them decided to keep on playing. Even in real casinos there’s still cheat and the only real winner are those casinos. Gambling is risky but its quiet more risk if you do it online cause its the syatem that works for it.
That's untrue. There's plenty of gambling websites that do provide legit services and that don't scam people.
That's why the only thing I bet on from home(online) is sports betting, the house edge maybe a little bit higher but you are getting an insurance that you are not getting cheated.
I think that most of the online casinos cheat, why? Because no one can detect if they cheat or not.
They can cheat and also to be considered a legitment business.
I would avoid using any of those online casino unless it's a dice game that can prove provably fair with Hash.
The truth is that we are never going to know exactly what happens, a casino does not need to cheat, it has a decisive advantage over the player already with the house edge, so a well run casino does not need to cheat their players, however there have been cases like that but it is impossible to know how rare that is, however sport betting gives no security either since matches can be fixed as well.I think that most of the online casinos cheat, why? Because no one can detect if they cheat or not.
They can cheat and also to be considered a legitment business.
I would avoid using any of those online casino unless it's a dice game that can prove provably fair with Hash.
Try investing in a casino bankroll, you'll see soon, sometimes, even with the edge in your favor, you turn negative.
I believe some of casinos doing cheat to earn more money. But mostly player (newbie player) don't know this casinos do cheat or not.
For online casinos maybe they work in their system to cheat the player. For player we hard to identify this online casinos run cheat or not. So better if we lose much, it's time to stop playing. Online casinos easy for them to run cheat on their system.
For online casinos maybe they work in their system to cheat the player. For player we hard to identify this online casinos run cheat or not. So better if we lose much, it's time to stop playing. Online casinos easy for them to run cheat on their system.
Dude you even have any idea what provably fair system is? Or are you just typing out everything your mind says without questioning it and starting to shitpost to get paid?
All online "reputable" casinos have a provably fair system to make sure all roll are verified and there is no bias by the house on the rolls. Again the algorithm can be used to verify the rolls on a third party verifier. Without it the casino is scam for sure and their representative on bitcointalk would be given negative trust - to identify them as scammer.
I don't think you'd get a negative just because your games aren't provably fair.
You'd probably get very low traffic, not a negative rating though.
The verified games are a bit limited right now, it's mostly Dice sites and nothing more.
FJ has a couple of other games that are provably fair, which is a step in the right direction, I haven't seen this anywhere else.
I thought of creating this thread a couple of weeks ago
I think there should be an active thread with this kind of information
I don't know much about it, but I think we should post things like this to figure out, what NOT to play online
I'll start
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN5a0-WBOxc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoNc8gxvhaI
Okay, this one is pretty obvious, but still reveals the dude knows what's the next card
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBNQK-0Yg5g
I think there should be an active thread with this kind of information
I don't know much about it, but I think we should post things like this to figure out, what NOT to play online
I'll start
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN5a0-WBOxc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoNc8gxvhaI
Okay, this one is pretty obvious, but still reveals the dude knows what's the next card
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBNQK-0Yg5g
I know one way they cheat. They make fake articles and they promote them on facebook and google. In the article, the guy says that he has been using martingale strategy and that he has won a lot of money playing online roulette. And he posts proofs.....and he explains how the odds for martingale are good, that no one can lose 10 times in a row so that playing online roulette is a sure thing. Of course, he doesn't mention the table limits, so after some time you lose everything no matter how much money you have. In the end, everyone except casino loses.
It might not be the casino promoting it, might be an affiliate/referral campaign from someone
The truth is that we are never going to know exactly what happens, a casino does not need to cheat, it has a decisive advantage over the player already with the house edge, so a well run casino does not need to cheat their players, however there have been cases like that but it is impossible to know how rare that is, however sport betting gives no security either since matches can be fixed as well.
Yeah that's also what I've been saying a few replies back, but people come up with these wild conspiracy theories that all casinos are cheating.
The profit is just built into house edge, like you say, they have literally no reason to cheat players. On slot machines they can make the HE as high as they want.
I also agree that it does happen, but is very rare.
Moreover, even without cheating, with any game of chance and the odds being in favor of the house edge most of the time, then I do not even see the essence of them needing to cheat.
No one can say the casino is cheating because the reason is they are hiding it behind the code of their casino site. It is quite hard to prove if you do not know anything about what makes the casinos tick. So the only people that can say for sure the casino is cheating is if you are someone who knows how to test whether the casino is really provably fair. So that is the reason why a lot of these casinos goes unchecked.
The truth is that we are never going to know exactly what happens, a casino does not need to cheat, it has a decisive advantage over the player already with the house edge, so a well run casino does not need to cheat their players, however there have been cases like that but it is impossible to know how rare that is, however sport betting gives no security either since matches can be fixed as well.
Yeah that's also what I've been saying a few replies back, but people come up with these wild conspiracy theories that all casinos are cheating.
The profit is just built into house edge, like you say, they have literally no reason to cheat players. On slot machines they can make the HE as high as they want.
I also agree that it does happen, but is very rare.
Moreover, even without cheating, with any game of chance and the odds being in favor of the house edge most of the time, then I do not even see the essence of them needing to cheat.
I thought of creating this thread a couple of weeks ago
I think there should be an active thread with this kind of information
I don't know much about it, but I think we should post things like this to figure out, what NOT to play online
I'll start
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN5a0-WBOxc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoNc8gxvhaI
Okay, this one is pretty obvious, but still reveals the dude knows what's the next card
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBNQK-0Yg5g
I think there should be an active thread with this kind of information
I don't know much about it, but I think we should post things like this to figure out, what NOT to play online
I'll start
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN5a0-WBOxc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoNc8gxvhaI
Okay, this one is pretty obvious, but still reveals the dude knows what's the next card
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBNQK-0Yg5g
I know one way they cheat. They make fake articles and they promote them on facebook and google. In the article, the guy says that he has been using martingale strategy and that he has won a lot of money playing online roulette. And he posts proofs.....and he explains how the odds for martingale are good, that no one can lose 10 times in a row so that playing online roulette is a sure thing. Of course, he doesn't mention the table limits, so after some time you lose everything no matter how much money you have. In the end, everyone except casino loses.
I believe some of casinos doing cheat to earn more money. But mostly player (newbie player) don't know this casinos do cheat or not.
For online casinos maybe they work in their system to cheat the player. For player we hard to identify this online casinos run cheat or not. So better if we lose much, it's time to stop playing. Online casinos easy for them to run cheat on their system.
For online casinos maybe they work in their system to cheat the player. For player we hard to identify this online casinos run cheat or not. So better if we lose much, it's time to stop playing. Online casinos easy for them to run cheat on their system.
Dude you even have any idea what provably fair system is? Or are you just typing out everything your mind says without questioning it and starting to shitpost to get paid?
All online "reputable" casinos have a provably fair system to make sure all roll are verified and there is no bias by the house on the rolls. Again the algorithm can be used to verify the rolls on a third party verifier. Without it the casino is scam for sure and their representative on bitcointalk would be given negative trust - to identify them as scammer.
Not all, some casino dont even have provably fair. In regards to that, it doesnt mean they cheat either but it is EV- so in the long run casino could win some money. They dont really have to cheat anything because site is programmed with all those house edge to get advantage over player
I believe some of casinos doing cheat to earn more money. But mostly player (newbie player) don't know this casinos do cheat or not.
For online casinos maybe they work in their system to cheat the player. For player we hard to identify this online casinos run cheat or not. So better if we lose much, it's time to stop playing. Online casinos easy for them to run cheat on their system.
For online casinos maybe they work in their system to cheat the player. For player we hard to identify this online casinos run cheat or not. So better if we lose much, it's time to stop playing. Online casinos easy for them to run cheat on their system.
Dude you even have any idea what provably fair system is? Or are you just typing out everything your mind says without questioning it and starting to shitpost to get paid?
All online "reputable" casinos have a provably fair system to make sure all roll are verified and there is no bias by the house on the rolls. Again the algorithm can be used to verify the rolls on a third party verifier. Without it the casino is scam for sure and their representative on bitcointalk would be given negative trust - to identify them as scammer.
Not all, some casino dont even have provably fair. In regards to that, it doesnt mean they cheat either but it is EV- so in the long run casino could win some money. They dont really have to cheat anything because site is programmed with all those house edge to get advantage over player
I believe some of casinos doing cheat to earn more money. But mostly player (newbie player) don't know this casinos do cheat or not.
For online casinos maybe they work in their system to cheat the player. For player we hard to identify this online casinos run cheat or not. So better if we lose much, it's time to stop playing. Online casinos easy for them to run cheat on their system.
For online casinos maybe they work in their system to cheat the player. For player we hard to identify this online casinos run cheat or not. So better if we lose much, it's time to stop playing. Online casinos easy for them to run cheat on their system.
Dude you even have any idea what provably fair system is? Or are you just typing out everything your mind says without questioning it and starting to shitpost to get paid?
All online "reputable" casinos have a provably fair system to make sure all roll are verified and there is no bias by the house on the rolls. Again the algorithm can be used to verify the rolls on a third party verifier. Without it the casino is scam for sure and their representative on bitcointalk would be given negative trust - to identify them as scammer.
Not all, some casino dont even have provably fair. In regards to that, it doesnt mean they cheat either but it is EV- so in the long run casino could win some money. They dont really have to cheat anything because site is programmed with all those house edge to get advantage over player
I believe some of casinos doing cheat to earn more money. But mostly player (newbie player) don't know this casinos do cheat or not.
For online casinos maybe they work in their system to cheat the player. For player we hard to identify this online casinos run cheat or not. So better if we lose much, it's time to stop playing. Online casinos easy for them to run cheat on their system.
For online casinos maybe they work in their system to cheat the player. For player we hard to identify this online casinos run cheat or not. So better if we lose much, it's time to stop playing. Online casinos easy for them to run cheat on their system.
Dude you even have any idea what provably fair system is? Or are you just typing out everything your mind says without questioning it and starting to shitpost to get paid?
All online "reputable" casinos have a provably fair system to make sure all roll are verified and there is no bias by the house on the rolls. Again the algorithm can be used to verify the rolls on a third party verifier. Without it the casino is scam for sure and their representative on bitcointalk would be given negative trust - to identify them as scammer.
I believe some of casinos doing cheat to earn more money. But mostly player (newbie player) don't know this casinos do cheat or not.
For online casinos maybe they work in their system to cheat the player. For player we hard to identify this online casinos run cheat or not. So better if we lose much, it's time to stop playing. Online casinos easy for them to run cheat on their system.
For online casinos maybe they work in their system to cheat the player. For player we hard to identify this online casinos run cheat or not. So better if we lose much, it's time to stop playing. Online casinos easy for them to run cheat on their system.
Casinos mostly cheat their investors with the strategy they use. If you go to online casinos whether it fiat cash or crypto currencies both can able to look the move if you playing cards on the sites. Poll roll and poker room all they use to fuck the users if they win a big amount once.
Next our greediness towards earning money will wash out you in gambling field. To be pretty safer side invest on trading and look for profit.
Since trading is also risky thing still better option than gambling.
The reputed casinos will not cheat users but safer side don't continue your game after winning some money. stop the game and withdraw your profit if you become greedy then surely you will lose everything. Trading is also risky but it depends on which coins you invested but it is good suppose if we get a loss now later you can make a profit.Next our greediness towards earning money will wash out you in gambling field. To be pretty safer side invest on trading and look for profit.
Since trading is also risky thing still better option than gambling.
Casinos mostly cheat their investors with the strategy they use. If you go to online casinos whether it fiat cash or crypto currencies both can able to look the move if you playing cards on the sites. Poll roll and poker room all they use to fuck the users if they win a big amount once.
Next our greediness towards earning money will wash out you in gambling field. To be pretty safer side invest on trading and look for profit.
Since trading is also risky thing still better option than gambling.
The reputed casinos will not cheat users but safer side don't continue your game after winning some money. stop the game and withdraw your profit if you become greedy then surely you will lose everything. Trading is also risky but it depends on which coins you invested but it is good suppose if we get a loss now later you can make a profit. Next our greediness towards earning money will wash out you in gambling field. To be pretty safer side invest on trading and look for profit.
Since trading is also risky thing still better option than gambling.
That's why the only thing I bet on from home(online) is sports betting, the house edge maybe a little bit higher but you are getting an insurance that you are not getting cheated.
I think that most of the online casinos cheat, why? Because no one can detect if they cheat or not.
They can cheat and also to be considered a legitment business.
I would avoid using any of those online casino unless it's a dice game that can prove provably fair with Hash.
I think that most of the online casinos cheat, why? Because no one can detect if they cheat or not.
They can cheat and also to be considered a legitment business.
I would avoid using any of those online casino unless it's a dice game that can prove provably fair with Hash.
You do know there are things like fixed games?
This!
. Well, I bet he is hoping that he placed the bet on the winning team on that fixed game, but I guess this is rarer than those casino who almost always cheat every session. Between these two, I think fixing result of sports game maybe able to book us a winning too LOL. So i choose fixed result of sports betting than Cheating Casino. Exactly, atleast you have a chance to win when you place a bet to the winning team, rather than in a cheating casino, where if they want to cheat the chances of winning is zero percent. Not unless if you caught them red handed, but these tricksters are trained to acquire such lightning fast sleight of hands.
I have seen several of these.
And really make me think, but I still gamble lol
Even in real life, there are some stuff like this, if not, they'll take a %. So, they always win.
And really make me think, but I still gamble lol
Even in real life, there are some stuff like this, if not, they'll take a %. So, they always win.
Casinos mostly cheat their investors with the strategy they use. If you go to online casinos whether it fiat cash or crypto currencies both can able to look the move if you playing cards on the sites. Poll roll and poker room all they use to fuck the users if they win a big amount once.
Next our greediness towards earning money will wash out you in gambling field. To be pretty safer side invest on trading and look for profit.
Since trading is also risky thing still better option than gambling.
Next our greediness towards earning money will wash out you in gambling field. To be pretty safer side invest on trading and look for profit.
Since trading is also risky thing still better option than gambling.
casino are cheaters but if you try to cheat you will get to jail thats why you must staw away from casinos they are shit
i heard that roulette ball can be controlled, and the ball will vibrate, and will fall on numbers that are not placed bets... read this article too, as your reference to find "fair" casinos
It is obvious there isn't any casino which claims to he fair so if we see they aren't doing anything wrong I haven't seen any casino stating that they are fair and that they can't predict the future though I have seen very less casino cheating through roulette as it is hard to make it look realistic I thought of creating this thread a couple of weeks ago
I think there should be an active thread with this kind of information
I don't know much about it, but I think we should post things like this to figure out, what NOT to play online
I'll start
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN5a0-WBOxc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoNc8gxvhaI
Okay, this one is pretty obvious, but still reveals the dude knows what's the next card
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBNQK-0Yg5g
I think there should be an active thread with this kind of information
I don't know much about it, but I think we should post things like this to figure out, what NOT to play online
I'll start
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN5a0-WBOxc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoNc8gxvhaI
Okay, this one is pretty obvious, but still reveals the dude knows what's the next card
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBNQK-0Yg5g
I had watch that last link and saw how the staff incharged of the game skipped the card. and this one,
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we can see how the rolling ball jumped and shakes.. and here is the explanation how they cheat with that kind of stuff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51bc1ypNsrU and it seems that they have some kind of disruptor in there to make the ball shakes and fall to other part of the roullete.
About roulette cheating of ball jumping and shaking, which is very common in roulette casino. They have a magnet below the table near the person who is rolling the dice. This type of cheating is very common. That is why it is told that dont play in casino as they always cheat and even if you win big they wont allow you to encash. They will start asking all documents and other stuffs which you wont be able to give and you have to leave your winnings.
Those casino owners need to profit of course. Losses for others are gains for them so if they just let most of the players win then they can't operate much longer. It's a dirty tactic but it became a part of that industry.
Gambling is risky and greedy people makes it more risky. I remember one of the game here in my place cheat to every player, its a chess game that when you move any of them you have to place your bet and part of their team pretend to bet on it and will play it first to encourage more people to fall on that trap. What I mean is, gamblers will not win in long run, you will still loss all your money if greed takes over your mind.
That's why the only thing I bet on from home(online) is sports betting, the house edge maybe a little bit higher but you are getting an insurance that you are not getting cheated.
I think that most of the online casinos cheat, why? Because no one can detect if they cheat or not.
They can cheat and also to be considered a legitment business.
I would avoid using any of those online casino unless it's a dice game that can prove provably fair with Hash.
The truth is that we are never going to know exactly what happens, a casino does not need to cheat, it has a decisive advantage over the player already with the house edge, so a well run casino does not need to cheat their players, however there have been cases like that but it is impossible to know how rare that is, however sport betting gives no security either since matches can be fixed as well.I think that most of the online casinos cheat, why? Because no one can detect if they cheat or not.
They can cheat and also to be considered a legitment business.
I would avoid using any of those online casino unless it's a dice game that can prove provably fair with Hash.
Yeah that's also what I've been saying a few replies back, but people come up with these wild conspiracy theories that all casinos are cheating.
The profit is just built into house edge, like you say, they have literally no reason to cheat players. On slot machines they can make the HE as high as they want.
I also agree that it does happen, but is very rare.
Well it does especially for thise casinos that aren't really known. I guess we just have to be a bit more careful about the casino sites that we'll be depositing our money on and as much as possible, only use established sites that are well trusted by players. The internet is a big help to determine which casinos are being trusted by most people
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