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Quote from: The_Dark_Knight on February 23, 2018, 09:51:31 PM

Quote from: BillCoin on February 09, 2018, 04:43:18 AM

That's why the only thing I bet on from home(online) is sports betting, the house edge maybe a little bit higher but you are getting an insurance that you are not getting cheated.
I think that most of the online casinos cheat, why? Because no one can detect if they cheat or not.
They can cheat and also to be considered a legitment business.
I would avoid using any of those online casino unless it's a dice game that can prove provably fair with Hash.

The truth is that we are never going to know exactly what happens, a casino does not need to cheat, it has a decisive advantage over the player already with the house edge, so a well run casino does not need to cheat their players, however there have been cases like that but it is impossible to know how rare that is, however sport betting gives no security either since matches can be fixed as well.

Yeah that's also what I've been saying a few replies back, but people come up with these wild conspiracy theories that all casinos are cheating.
The profit is just built into house edge, like you say, they have literally no reason to cheat players. On slot machines they can make the HE as high as they want.

I also agree that it does happen, but is very rare.

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Quote from: Arkham Knight on February 25, 2018, 03:43:52 AM

Those casino owners need to profit of course. Losses for others are gains for them so if they just let most of the players win then they can't operate much longer. It's a dirty tactic but it became a part of that industry.

I don't know much about real casinos but there are many online casinos are running this business for a long time and still they are in business means they are making a profit. In gambling business as long as you keep players busy playing your games for a long time then surely casinos can make a profit in the long run and for that, they no need to do a cheating business. They just need to run some good promotions and provide a good service to their players surely they can get more players and can make good profit.

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Quote from: FrueGreads on February 09, 2018, 10:44:18 AM

I'm usually very picky with the casinos I choose to play, and I normally only use the mainstream ones. The reason I do that, is because I believe that a lot of eyes are turn to them, even from the competition. So if something fishy would happen there it would probably be revealed. I do believe that once a casino hits a large and regular player base, they probably wont cheat, because they are already expected to win in the long run.

Of course that with small and new casinos, you can never be sure, because in the short term they might even lose money, and if customers wont play long enough, they will probably end up losing. I guess that there are really good chances that those casinos will cheat.

Hmm. Mainstream or not, these guys do it a lot and they may just be smarter in doing it than each other. How do you think they have been sustaining themselves all these while? The eyes of the world may be on them, but those eyes will not really be working well when hearts are pumping fast and adrenalines are at their highest peak in the history of their life. Every casino cheats, it is either we accept it or not.

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That is a big problem here, even though it is live your money is still not safe as you can barely see anything in the background. You can see some of their antics in the background, that is why I don't bet on this cheap and poorly made live casinos as they cheat their customers. Unlike other gaming casinos where the outcome is already predicted this live casinos can alter the outcome to their way. Some even bet just for the fun of seeing barely dressed dealers as way of entertainment, you must avoid this at all cost.

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Casinos cheat because they want to ALWAYS be in control and to have a win-win situation all the time. I know this is happening, and so I am sharing the same here. Let us say A and B are both players with cards on deck. The casino personnel will reveal the cards of A to B provided the latter pays, say, around $50. Then, stealthily, the same casino personnel offers A the revelation of B's cards provided the former pays $55. Then a game ensues. Both A and B did not know about the mockery perpetrated by the casino personnel. In this scenario, the casino won around $105, taken from the $50 and $55, from A and B, respectively. You see, they earned the $105 apart from the gambling fees. This is the reason casinos keep getting richer while the players are left hanging every so often.

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Quote from: Oilacris on February 26, 2018, 11:49:57 AM

Quote from: Kevin77 on February 23, 2018, 08:58:40 AM

Quote from: BillCoin on February 10, 2018, 08:55:08 AM

Quote from: iluvbitcoins on February 09, 2018, 08:59:01 AM

Quote from: BillCoin on February 09, 2018, 04:43:18 AM

That's why the only thing I bet on from home(online) is sports betting, the house edge maybe a little bit higher but you are getting an insurance that you are not getting cheated.
I think that most of the online casinos cheat, why? Because no one can detect if they cheat or not.
They can cheat and also to be considered a legitment business.
I would avoid using any of those online casino unless it's a dice game that can prove provably fair with Hash.

You do know there are things like fixed games? Cheesy

Yes, but the chances for you to get cheated by a gambling game in an online casino is much higher then the chances for you to get cheated at a real casino.
At an online casino,if you are not playing at a provably fair system you can't really know what is going on behind the code, and the site itself could be faking results,while at a real casino you can see the dice rolling(if that's a known casino, there's no chances that someone rigged your dice).

Agreed. At least with the game, you still have a better chance and unless it is an insider work from the game itself, which is when one should be worried but it is rare compared to the level of cheating done by casinos and most especially online gambling.

All the same, most of us already know some of this, but we really still do not care anyway as we keep gambling. I have had someone who works in a casino disclose this before even though he made a solemn promise not to ever do such. Grin

I told him I would not trust him again since he betrayed his own place of work. Grin

Even people do figure it out on how those casinos online aren't fair at all but still they do play no matter what and if we do try to see on how many gamblers do still play online then it do signifies that as long their satisfactions been feed up even its non provably fair they would tend or choose to play no matter what.This is why online casinos wont die or vanish easily yet there are still people who do maintain to play. Rigged games is real but chances between online and physical ones is really different.

To me i think that if a person want to play gambling online he has a very best option to play gambling on sports games, specially for those people whose strategy is only to make money from gambling, where the casino cannot cheat you so easily and where their house edge is also lower than other gambling games, and i think that Onehash is one of the best gambling site for sports betting.

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Quote from: Kevin77 on February 23, 2018, 08:58:40 AM

Quote from: BillCoin on February 10, 2018, 08:55:08 AM

Quote from: iluvbitcoins on February 09, 2018, 08:59:01 AM

Quote from: BillCoin on February 09, 2018, 04:43:18 AM

That's why the only thing I bet on from home(online) is sports betting, the house edge maybe a little bit higher but you are getting an insurance that you are not getting cheated.
I think that most of the online casinos cheat, why? Because no one can detect if they cheat or not.
They can cheat and also to be considered a legitment business.
I would avoid using any of those online casino unless it's a dice game that can prove provably fair with Hash.

You do know there are things like fixed games? Cheesy

Yes, but the chances for you to get cheated by a gambling game in an online casino is much higher then the chances for you to get cheated at a real casino.
At an online casino,if you are not playing at a provably fair system you can't really know what is going on behind the code, and the site itself could be faking results,while at a real casino you can see the dice rolling(if that's a known casino, there's no chances that someone rigged your dice).

Agreed. At least with the game, you still have a better chance and unless it is an insider work from the game itself, which is when one should be worried but it is rare compared to the level of cheating done by casinos and most especially online gambling.

All the same, most of us already know some of this, but we really still do not care anyway as we keep gambling. I have had someone who works in a casino disclose this before even though he made a solemn promise not to ever do such. Grin

I told him I would not trust him again since he betrayed his own place of work. Grin

Even people do figure it out on how those casinos online aren't fair at all but still they do play no matter what and if we do try to see on how many gamblers do still play online then it do signifies that as long their satisfactions been feed up even its non provably fair they would tend or choose to play no matter what.This is why online casinos wont die or vanish easily yet there are still people who do maintain to play. Rigged games is real but chances between online and physical ones is really different.

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Quote from: crzy on February 23, 2018, 06:40:04 PM

I think a lot of people are aware of this but most of them decided to keep on playing. Even in real casinos there’s still cheat and the only real winner are those casinos. Gambling is risky but its quiet more risk if you do it online cause its the syatem that works for it.

That is not a scam per se. Actually every gamble is a risk and people are aware of the risk before they set their bet. That is again unbiased by the provably fair system. Any player who loses money by betting cannot call the casino a scam because they risked their money and thus they are responsible for their loss and not the casino. Moreover you cannot sue the casino because they have ToS which is blindly accepted by the player before playing any game that will always save them from litigation.

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Quote from: xIIImaL on February 10, 2018, 09:26:51 AM

Quote from: krishnaverma on February 09, 2018, 04:32:28 AM

One of my friends who was an employee at a leading card games website told me that they have own employees playing the games with normal members. Those employees are able to see all cards and they win most of the games (especially those with higher prize money). I checked the website and it was one of the most popular card games website in India. I am still not sure if that friend was right or not.

LOL, investing on casino would very risky option I knew it but after hearing this information it is nightmare for every online casino players. I did not do that as of now and not in future too. Instead of this you can go to betting site to make the more money than other gambling like casino or slot roll.
Even this would be the concern why billcoin above worry about investing on online casinos would also have mind thought like me.

It has always been nightmares upon nightmares. I kept seeing ling streaks of red in my dream since the one I have had few months back and they just kept haunting me till date. People keep listening to the whole idea of provably fair when it was not written by the computer itself. However it is, they are always going to keep winning while we keep losing unless we are just some pretty much lucky son of a casino. Grin

... and I totally agree with billcoin on simply just sticking to sport betting sometimes.

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Those casino owners need to profit of course. Losses for others are gains for them so if they just let most of the players win then they can't operate much longer. It's a dirty tactic but it became a part of that industry.

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Quote from: iluvbitcoins on February 09, 2018, 08:59:01 AM

Quote from: BillCoin on February 09, 2018, 04:43:18 AM

That's why the only thing I bet on from home(online) is sports betting, the house edge maybe a little bit higher but you are getting an insurance that you are not getting cheated.
I think that most of the online casinos cheat, why? Because no one can detect if they cheat or not.
They can cheat and also to be considered a legitment business.
I would avoid using any of those online casino unless it's a dice game that can prove provably fair with Hash.

You do know there are things like fixed games? Cheesy

As funny as it sounds, I have actually heard stuffs like this several times, at least locally anyway. One thing is that it is still safer betting sports as that has to totally do with your luck and how the game ends up turning out. Also, Billcoin though provably fair with dice game on the online casinos are actually fair, as far as I am concerned, they are not fair at all as the house edge has been programmed to always win anyway and that explains the long streak of losses that ends up taking it all back, well that is fair for the casinos.

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stay away from these kind of casinos because it's obviously there is no fair game at there even last video was the worst but in my view almost all casinos were cheat so this is common things would we see even if we visiting land based casinos but there is no guarantee the casinos will not cheat us because basically they want our money

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Wow, so online casino dealers are acting like magicians now with all those sleight of hands. This is my first time watching the cheating in process but I have long thought that live casino dealers have way more things to exploit than conventional online casino. Heck, I already hate playing online casino games since there's no way to verify its fairness.

I always prefer playing games that is provably fair like dice betting, crash game, and sports betting (despite its huge house edge, but its okay as long as there is no hidden thing).

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i heard that roulette ball can be controlled, and the ball will vibrate, and will fall on numbers that are not placed bets... read this article too, as your reference to find "fair" casinos

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Quote from: BillCoin on February 09, 2018, 04:43:18 AM

That's why the only thing I bet on from home(online) is sports betting, the house edge maybe a little bit higher but you are getting an insurance that you are not getting cheated.
I think that most of the online casinos cheat, why? Because no one can detect if they cheat or not.
They can cheat and also to be considered a legitment business.
I would avoid using any of those online casino unless it's a dice game that can prove provably fair with Hash.

The truth is that we are never going to know exactly what happens, a casino does not need to cheat, it has a decisive advantage over the player already with the house edge, so a well run casino does not need to cheat their players, however there have been cases like that but it is impossible to know how rare that is, however sport betting gives no security either since matches can be fixed as well.

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Quote from: Baoo on February 22, 2018, 06:49:07 AM

In my opinion, the real casinos always want to inflate their profits in different ways. So they manipulate the majority of players. Moreover, there is a trick which always exists in different casinos, which it is the new player wins when he plays in their just first game. Because there will be agreed with those people to win more. But then he always loses everything (all his money) and that's what casino officials are doing.
In addition to that, in online casinos there is some manipulation, but much less than real casinos, for example Sports betting there are no cheats In most times. But sometimes, they may buy some games and choose the result and it is always contrary to expectations of players.

But then with these statements if everybody who goes to use these casinos, would they still be going to use them in knowing they couldn't redeem their winnings after they made a deposit in these sites?
I don't think so. Undecided

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Quote from: crzy on February 23, 2018, 06:40:04 PM

Quote from: iluvbitcoins on February 09, 2018, 03:07:03 AM

I thought of creating this thread a couple of weeks ago
I think there should be an active thread with this kind of information

I don't know much about it, but I think we should post things like this to figure out, what NOT to play online

I'll start

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN5a0-WBOxc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoNc8gxvhaI

Okay, this one is pretty obvious, but still reveals the dude knows what's the next card
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBNQK-0Yg5g

I think a lot of people are aware of this but most of them decided to keep on playing. Even in real casinos there’s still cheat and the only real winner are those casinos. Gambling is risky but its quiet more risk if you do it online cause its the syatem that works for it.

People do not have any other choice, they can only choose such a casino where they have low ratio of cheating the players, In fact most of the casino cannot continue supporting their casino without cheating the gambler otherwise there are some casinos where they never try to cheat the gambling and to make their trust suspicious.

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Quote from: iluvbitcoins on February 09, 2018, 03:07:03 AM

I thought of creating this thread a couple of weeks ago
I think there should be an active thread with this kind of information

I don't know much about it, but I think we should post things like this to figure out, what NOT to play online

I'll start

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN5a0-WBOxc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoNc8gxvhaI

Okay, this one is pretty obvious, but still reveals the dude knows what's the next card
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBNQK-0Yg5g

I think a lot of people are aware of this but most of them decided to keep on playing. Even in real casinos there’s still cheat and the only real winner are those casinos. Gambling is risky but its quiet more risk if you do it online cause its the syatem that works for it.

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Quote from: iluvbitcoins on February 09, 2018, 03:07:03 AM

I thought of creating this thread a couple of weeks ago
I think there should be an active thread with this kind of information

I don't know much about it, but I think we should post things like this to figure out, what NOT to play online

I'll start

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN5a0-WBOxc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoNc8gxvhaI

Okay, this one is pretty obvious, but still reveals the dude knows what's the next card
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBNQK-0Yg5g

Before we see this link of videos you given in you tube,we already know and heard that the casino gambling is full of cheat,like this,statement you said that they know the next card they open or given,but i dont know if this application of cheating should be apply in the online gaming of gambling site's we hope not because its run through internet technology,but if that things should pop up in our mind that there is cheating,we better find another ways of recreation.

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Quote from: BillCoin on February 10, 2018, 08:55:08 AM

Quote from: iluvbitcoins on February 09, 2018, 08:59:01 AM

Quote from: BillCoin on February 09, 2018, 04:43:18 AM

That's why the only thing I bet on from home(online) is sports betting, the house edge maybe a little bit higher but you are getting an insurance that you are not getting cheated.
I think that most of the online casinos cheat, why? Because no one can detect if they cheat or not.
They can cheat and also to be considered a legitment business.
I would avoid using any of those online casino unless it's a dice game that can prove provably fair with Hash.

You do know there are things like fixed games? Cheesy

Yes, but the chances for you to get cheated by a gambling game in an online casino is much higher then the chances for you to get cheated at a real casino.
At an online casino,if you are not playing at a provably fair system you can't really know what is going on behind the code, and the site itself could be faking results,while at a real casino you can see the dice rolling(if that's a known casino, there's no chances that someone rigged your dice).

Agreed. At least with the game, you still have a better chance and unless it is an insider work from the game itself, which is when one should be worried but it is rare compared to the level of cheating done by casinos and most especially online gambling.

All the same, most of us already know some of this, but we really still do not care anyway as we keep gambling. I have had someone who works in a casino disclose this before even though he made a solemn promise not to ever do such. Grin

I told him I would not trust him again since he betrayed his own place of work. Grin

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