[WeExchange]WARNING!The Fall of Ukyo II: Ukyo Digs a Hole?!WARNING![WeExchange] - page 11.

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Quote from: Ukyo on November 13, 2013, 03:29:24 PM

Of course no new withdraws are working.
I have stated over and over that bitcoind is in a constant state of non-use by the system because it either in startup/wallet loading mode, or locked up due to the latest transfer request.

Let me repeat again.
During startup, bitcoind does not respond to RPC calls.
Once it is up, I make a transfer. The moment I make the transfer, no matter what hardware is provided, it goes to 100% resources and fails to respond to any RPC requests, even after the transaction eventually makes it to the network.

-Ukyo

When do you think that will be? I'm desperate for these funds so I can get IVF for my soon to be wife. She's nearly at the cut off date and I REALLY REALLY need this money! Sad

Why can't you respond to support tickets. Please stop ignoring us Embarrassed

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Quote from: Ukyo on November 13, 2013, 11:58:29 PM

Quote from: lophie on November 13, 2013, 07:00:23 PM

sigh, Stop posting that "over and over and over" and STOP THE WITHDRAWING FUNCTIONALITY!.

now I told you, Dump all using pywallet, install the latest electrum and connect using tor, import all addresses and move the coins to a single or a couple of addresses, import them in a wallet.dat. Headache done, this solution WILL stick for a while.

Of course you want a permenant solution, USE LIBBITCOIN.

This would be a great solution except that I am not looking to shut down the site.
The system must stay in sync with the backend for tracking and audit purposes.
We can not have divergence.

-Ukyo

No offence, but no one is ever going to use Weexchange after this debacle.

You are better off simply moving to manual withdrawals, let people get their BTC back, and move on.

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Quote from: carnivale on November 14, 2013, 03:21:23 AM

Well, I'm still waiting for my October 23 withdrawal..

Over the course of the last few weeks, I've tried everything:
1)opened multiple support tickets on weexchange
2)opened a support ticket on bitfunder
3)sent emails
4)found the secret hotline number, called it every other day
5)opened an account on bitcointalk just to send ukyo a pm

and this is the feedback I received:
1)No reply
2)"Please contact weexchange"

3)No reply
4)"Ukyo is at a meeting"
5)No reply

It's only 19.1BTC, but these are all the bitcoins that I have. And if getting them back requires legal action, then I will do so. I'm too tired of this.

ukyo needs to explain this.

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Quote from: Ukyo on November 13, 2013, 11:58:29 PM

I do not want to disable the withdraw functionality because requests need to be able to be made.

-Ukyo

Euh,.. would it really make any difference?
If anyone would withdraw now their stuck with " 2nd server.. " error

Either way we're not getting our money.

I think your more worried about people not able to make deposits on We-exchange...

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Quote from: troner on November 14, 2013, 04:41:57 AM

Wait a minute, I dont get it at all. If Ukyo has the BTC, why not to transfer them ALL to another wallet and process all withdrawals manually?

What is more important for a provider of a financial service, to recover customers' trust and keep credibility, or fix some technical problems thoroughly?

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troner

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Wait a minute, I dont get it at all. If Ukyo has the BTC, why not to transfer them ALL to another wallet and process all withdrawals manually?

What is more important for a provider of a financial service, to recover customers' trust and keep credibility, or fix some technical problems thoroughly?

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Quote from: azaniet on November 14, 2013, 04:04:59 AM

Quote from: carnivale on November 14, 2013, 03:21:23 AM

Well, I'm still waiting for my October 23 withdrawal..

Over the course of the last few weeks, I've tried everything:
1)opened multiple support tickets on weexchange
2)opened a support ticket on bitfunder
3)sent emails
4)found the secret hotline number, called it every other day
5)opened an account on bitcointalk just to send ukyo a pm

and this is the feedback I received:
1)No reply
2)"Please contact weexchange"

3)No reply
4)"Ukyo is at a meeting"
5)No reply

It's only 19.1BTC, but these are all the bitcoins that I have. And if getting them back requires legal action, then I will do so. I'm too tired of this.

Exactly the same here..

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Quote from: carnivale on November 14, 2013, 03:21:23 AM

Well, I'm still waiting for my October 23 withdrawal..

Over the course of the last few weeks, I've tried everything:
1)opened multiple support tickets on weexchange
2)opened a support ticket on bitfunder
3)sent emails
4)found the secret hotline number, called it every other day
5)opened an account on bitcointalk just to send ukyo a pm

and this is the feedback I received:
1)No reply
2)"Please contact weexchange"

3)No reply
4)"Ukyo is at a meeting"
5)No reply

It's only 19.1BTC, but these are all the bitcoins that I have. And if getting them back requires legal action, then I will do so. I'm too tired of this.

Exactly the same here..

carnivale

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Well, I'm still waiting for my October 23 withdrawal..

Over the course of the last few weeks, I've tried everything:
1)opened multiple support tickets on weexchange
2)opened a support ticket on bitfunder
3)sent emails
4)found the secret hotline number, called it every other day
5)opened an account on bitcointalk just to send ukyo a pm

and this is the feedback I received:
1)No reply
2)"Please contact weexchange"

3)No reply
4)"Ukyo is at a meeting"
5)No reply

It's only 19.1BTC, but these are all the bitcoins that I have. And if getting them back requires legal action, then I will do so. I'm too tired of this.

stonehoo

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Quote from: lophie on November 14, 2013, 02:52:21 AM

More importantly, ETA?

no nothing,,,,, just time to delay more......

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More importantly, ETA?

thecoinjournal

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So Ukyo, if I want to make a withdraw, which method would you suggest among these three:

1. Withdraw and wait without submitting a ticket;
2. Withdraw and submit a support ticket;
3. Don't withdraw and wait for the problem to be solved.

If choose not to withdraw currently can help, I can wait for a few days.

Thanks!

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Quote from: Ukyo on November 13, 2013, 11:58:29 PM

Quote from: lophie on November 13, 2013, 07:00:23 PM

sigh, Stop posting that "over and over and over" and STOP THE WITHDRAWING FUNCTIONALITY!.

now I told you, Dump all using pywallet, install the latest electrum and connect using tor, import all addresses and move the coins to a single or a couple of addresses, import them in a wallet.dat. Headache done, this solution WILL stick for a while.

Of course you want a permenant solution, USE LIBBITCOIN.

This would be a great solution except that I am not looking to shut down the site.
The system must stay in sync with the backend for tracking and audit purposes.
We can not have divergence.

I do not want to disable the withdraw functionality because requests need to be able to be made.

Please also keep in mind, I am verifying all the transactions to make sure there are no double sends.
Just because there was an rpc time out during the withdraw process does not necessarily mean that bitcoind did not eventually process the withdraw. I am sure no one wants to get told later "oops, the system sent X bitcoins to many people more than once because of making haste so there are not enough bitcoins remaining for you"

I am currently talking with a couple people about real solutions and depending on their time and its effectiveness I am hoping to have at least one option tested and possibly running by this weekend.

There are more than 200 withdraws. Lot's of people seem to think if X withdraw does not work, let's try Y.. then Z... etc.
This has only caused even more delays.

Withdraws can be canceled.

-Ukyo

Let plan it well, having a clear picture to everyone...if not the situation getting bad.

Ukyo

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Quote from: lophie on November 13, 2013, 07:00:23 PM

sigh, Stop posting that "over and over and over" and STOP THE WITHDRAWING FUNCTIONALITY!.

now I told you, Dump all using pywallet, install the latest electrum and connect using tor, import all addresses and move the coins to a single or a couple of addresses, import them in a wallet.dat. Headache done, this solution WILL stick for a while.

Of course you want a permenant solution, USE LIBBITCOIN.

This would be a great solution except that I am not looking to shut down the site.
The system must stay in sync with the backend for tracking and audit purposes.
We can not have divergence.

I do not want to disable the withdraw functionality because requests need to be able to be made.

Please also keep in mind, I am verifying all the transactions to make sure there are no double sends.
Just because there was an rpc time out during the withdraw process does not necessarily mean that bitcoind did not eventually process the withdraw. I am sure no one wants to get told later "oops, the system sent X bitcoins to many people more than once because of making haste so there are not enough bitcoins remaining for you"

I am currently talking with a couple people about real solutions and depending on their time and its effectiveness I am hoping to have at least one option tested and possibly running by this weekend.

There are more than 200 withdraws. Lot's of people seem to think if X withdraw does not work, let's try Y.. then Z... etc.
This has only caused even more delays.

Withdraws can be canceled.

-Ukyo

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Quote from: Pompobit on November 13, 2013, 08:36:25 PM

Quote from: SebastianJu on November 13, 2013, 08:04:19 PM

Quote from: Pompobit on November 13, 2013, 04:25:54 PM

Revert the withdrawal requests and send the btc back to the bitfunder account would not avoid the bitcoind problems?
And lower the withdrawal's waiting list for Ukyo, too.

I'd like it, so I could buy my last shares before the closure and help who just wants his btc back to get them sooner

That probably wouldnt help since the problem seems to be that bitcoind is checking thousands of bitcoin addresses if they have bitcoins in it to do a withdraw. So it doesnt matter how many withdraws are waiting.

I'm not saying unlocking funds on bitfunder from limbo would fix bitcoind issues, but if Ukyo is processing tickets in chronological order, popping withdrawals from the waiting list will shift all the widrawals made later.
Or to revert a withdrawal request is not possible? The transfers between weexchange and bitfunder are always instantaneous, so seem like virtual passages. And hadn't Ukyo mentioned he could have canceled withdrawals to input.io?

He can cancel withdraws instantly.

The bitcoins at bitfunder arent at bitfunder. Weexchange keeps them all the time. They arent moved really.

The waiting list shouldnt be nothing really problematic. Its only 200 or so requests. Thats nothing for a database. It makes practically no difference to take a withdraw out because it was done manually.

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Quote from: SebastianJu on November 13, 2013, 08:04:19 PM

Quote from: Pompobit on November 13, 2013, 04:25:54 PM

Revert the withdrawal requests and send the btc back to the bitfunder account would not avoid the bitcoind problems?
And lower the withdrawal's waiting list for Ukyo, too.

I'd like it, so I could buy my last shares before the closure and help who just wants his btc back to get them sooner

That probably wouldnt help since the problem seems to be that bitcoind is checking thousands of bitcoin addresses if they have bitcoins in it to do a withdraw. So it doesnt matter how many withdraws are waiting.

I'm not saying unlocking funds on bitfunder from limbo would fix bitcoind issues, but if Ukyo is processing tickets in chronological order, popping withdrawals from the waiting list will shift all the widrawals made later.
Or to revert a withdrawal request is not possible? The transfers between weexchange and bitfunder are always instantaneous, so seem like virtual passages. And hadn't Ukyo mentioned he could have canceled withdrawals to input.io?

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Quote from: Pompobit on November 13, 2013, 04:25:54 PM

Revert the withdrawal requests and send the btc back to the bitfunder account would not avoid the bitcoind problems?
And lower the withdrawal's waiting list for Ukyo, too.

I'd like it, so I could buy my last shares before the closure and help who just wants his btc back to get them sooner

That probably wouldnt help since the problem seems to be that bitcoind is checking thousands of bitcoin addresses if they have bitcoins in it to do a withdraw. So it doesnt matter how many withdraws are waiting.

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sigh, Stop posting that "over and over and over" and STOP THE WITHDRAWING FUNCTIONALITY!.

now I told you, Dump all using pywallet, install the latest electrum and connect using tor, import all addresses and move the coins to a single or a couple of addresses, import them in a wallet.dat. Headache done, this solution WILL stick for a while.

Of course you want a permenant solution, USE LIBBITCOIN.

Pompobit

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Revert the withdrawal requests and send the btc back to the bitfunder account would not avoid the bitcoind problems?
And lower the withdrawal's waiting list for Ukyo, too.

I'd like it, so I could buy my last shares before the closure and help who just wants his btc back to get them sooner

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Quote from: bobboooiie on November 13, 2013, 03:57:24 PM

any hope/eta on fixing automatic withdrawals? I would rather you to focus more time on that then manualy doing this as it will take you till 2015 to process everything by hand

I guess it wont be so easy since ukyo is working on this since weeks already. Manual withdraw only works every 20-30 minutes and all the other time he can work on it. On top... if it would be easy then other real bitcoind devs would have solved this already.

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