Topic: well, ether sale has started. - page 2. (Read 9068 times)
Im too fucking scared to invest in this. EVERY COIN takes as reference Bitcoin, this proves Bitcoin is KING.
What a bunch of bullshit. Everybody talks shit about Ethereum to keep the people out. But you all bought it or will buy. Such a shame.
I bet you bought ether, and you're trying to bring more investors there to make it success full.(speculating)
How about this?
There is no self-interest in an investor trying to pump ethereum now - more buyers means a diluted share. There is self interest in telling everyone else not to buy whilst you snap up as much as you can get your hands on.
Having said that, ethereum is a dirty rotten scam and you are throwing your money away and if you buy any they will use the money to torture puppies and children will probably die somewhere.
What a bunch of bullshit. Everybody talks shit about Ethereum to keep the people out. But you all bought it or will buy. Such a shame.
I bet you bought ether, and you're trying to bring more investors there to make it success full.(speculating)
How about this?
What a bunch of bullshit. Everybody talks shit about Ethereum to keep the people out. But you all bought it or will buy. Such a shame.
can someone please answer:
-what is the inflation per year of Ether?
-what is the maximum supply?
-Will there be more Ether on the free market later than what is sold with this ipo? Is this Ipo 100% of the coins in the genesisblock or are there bounties?
-what is the inflation per year of Ether?
-what is the maximum supply?
-Will there be more Ether on the free market later than what is sold with this ipo? Is this Ipo 100% of the coins in the genesisblock or are there bounties?
I don't know if it's been changed in the recent weeks but for a long time it was always a PoW / PoS hybrid and it was dis-inflationary (much like Bitcoin is dis-inflationary, meaning an inflationary system which eventually ceases to be inflationary).
Yeah so very very few people are doing their homework on Ethereum.. you're throwing big bags of money into a coin that will be dumped by the founders and all the professional miners who mine it. The bagholder whines are going to be incredibly loud.
The aborted IPO earlier sent all sorts of alarm signals earlier. This is a group which just wants to be paid now, and its upto the buyers to see if their investment is worth anything.
Just wait after it is over and if you still want it you will get from big sell-offs at cheaper prices.
Just wait after it is over and if you still want it you will get from big sell-offs at cheaper prices.
A LOT of people are going to get burned by this scam and they have tried to disguise it has best as they could it's now being discussed throughout this forum about the potential signals of scams.
I will refrain from calling it an outright scam right now, but it sure doesn't look good. I think its mostly the greedy people at the helm who are looking to get paid upfront.
The actual investors take all the risk which doesn't even seem to be a good enough risk.
It's a scam in the sense that they're encouraging people through hype to trade in their valuable Bitcoin for this Ether, which (if it does launch) won't be released until 2015 and there's no guarantee it will go anywhere. Can you wait 6 to 15 months for a coin? Especially if you're throwing $1k, $10K or more on Ether? That's 6 to 15 months you could be diversifying into new cryptos (like NEM, Node, Ora and countless others) which will probably bring a better ROI than Ether.
can someone please answer:
-what is the inflation per year of Ether?
-what is the maximum supply?
-Will there be more Ether on the free market later than what is sold with this ipo? Is this Ipo 100% of the coins in the genesisblock or are there bounties?
-what is the inflation per year of Ether?
-what is the maximum supply?
-Will there be more Ether on the free market later than what is sold with this ipo? Is this Ipo 100% of the coins in the genesisblock or are there bounties?
The aborted IPO earlier sent all sorts of alarm signals earlier. This is a group which just wants to be paid now, and its upto the buyers to see if their investment is worth anything.
Just wait after it is over and if you still want it you will get from big sell-offs at cheaper prices.
Just wait after it is over and if you still want it you will get from big sell-offs at cheaper prices.
A LOT of people are going to get burned by this scam and they have tried to disguise it has best as they could it's now being discussed throughout this forum about the potential signals of scams.
I will refrain from calling it an outright scam right now, but it sure doesn't look good. I think its mostly the greedy people at the helm who are looking to get paid upfront.
The actual investors take all the risk which doesn't even seem to be a good enough risk.
Only thing is that i actually followed some of the wallets that these purchases were coming from, and they seem to be compeltly random.
And due to BTC wallet addresses being free, is a very easy to accomplish scam.
IPOs are also a scam since you can create as many mule accounts as you want, send money in with them, then receive infinite premine + get all the BTC back since you're sending it to yourself.
The exodus address is viewable by everybody so every ether can be accounted for in BTC. BTC can't be faked. Don't talk if you haven't checked, read or tested something. You are only spreading misinformation which is bad for the community and bad for the forums. Please keep your insecurity to yourself. Thank you very much.
You don't seem to know what you're talking about. The person running the IPO can send BTC to himself to receive as much premine as he wants because all the IPO BTC profit goes to him anyway. If the IPO profit is divided amongst several people, they simply collude together, pool their resources in an orderly manner, then send it in.
Example:
1) I create a coin, protocol, whatever jibberish you want to call it called "etherealcrap".
2) I offer 50% of the coin as IPO
3) I create 10 separate BTC wallets and put 1 BTC in all of them and send it in to the IPO address.
4) Since there was a total of 20 BTC sent in for the IPO all together, and I was responsible for half of it, I get 1/2 of the IPO premine for free because all BTC I spent returns to me anyway.
5) Net profit for me is half of the premine + 10 BTC, and I spent nothing.
Only thing is that i actually followed some of the wallets that these purchases were coming from, and they seem to be compeltly random.
Either way, you are a big boy. Don't buy any then. I, on the other hand, have a few hundreds in btc that i can throw at this. To each his own. Cheers bro.
IPOs are also a scam since you can create as many mule accounts as you want, send money in with them, then receive infinite premine + get all the BTC back since you're sending it to yourself.
The exodus address is viewable by everybody so every ether can be accounted for in BTC. BTC can't be faked. Don't talk if you haven't checked, read or tested something. You are only spreading misinformation which is bad for the community and bad for the forums. Please keep your insecurity to yourself. Thank you very much.
You don't seem to know what you're talking about. The person running the IPO can send BTC to himself to receive as much premine as he wants because all the IPO BTC profit goes to him anyway. If the IPO profit is divided amongst several people, they simply collude together, pool their resources in an orderly manner, then send it in.
Example:
1) I create a coin, protocol, whatever jibberish you want to call it called "etherealcrap".
2) I offer 50% of the coin as IPO
3) I create 10 separate BTC wallets and put 1 BTC in all of them and send it in to the IPO address.
4) Since there was a total of 20 BTC sent in for the IPO all together, and I was responsible for half of it, I get 1/2 of the IPO premine for free because all BTC I spent returns to me anyway.
5) Net profit for me is half of the premine + 10 BTC, and I spent nothing.
IPOs are also a scam since you can create as many mule accounts as you want, send money in with them, then receive infinite premine + get all the BTC back since you're sending it to yourself.
The exodus address is viewable by everybody so every ether can be accounted for in BTC. BTC can't be faked. Don't talk if you haven't checked, read or tested something. You are only spreading misinformation which is bad for the community and bad for the forums. Please keep your insecurity to yourself. Thank you very much.
exactly
and here it is:
https://blockchain.info/address/36PrZ1KHYMpqSyAQXSG8VwbUiq2EogxLo2
IPOs are also a scam since you can create as many mule accounts as you want, send money in with them, then receive infinite premine + get all the BTC back since you're sending it to yourself.
The exodus address is viewable by everybody so every ether can be accounted for in BTC. BTC can't be faked. Don't talk if you haven't checked, read or tested something. You are only spreading misinformation which is bad for the community and bad for the forums. Please keep your insecurity to yourself. Thank you very much.
To me, they seem like the most idealistic group of people and they honestly want to make a change for good in the world.
All I see is a large bureaucracy with high operating costs that not only wants to recoup them, but make much more on top of that. When people design coins solely to try and make windfall profits, they're usually referred to as scamcoins.
again, It's not a coin.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=fbEtivJIfIU
To me, they seem like the most idealistic group of people and they honestly want to make a change for good in the world.
All I see is a large bureaucracy with high operating costs that not only wants to recoup them, but make much more on top of that. When people design coins solely to try and make windfall profits, they're usually referred to as scamcoins.
IPOs are also a scam since you can create as many mule accounts as you want, send money in with them, then receive infinite premine + get all the BTC back since you're sending it to yourself.
We don't understand an ICO like this. They will gather as much as they can without even having a coin or coin specs available yet. They even say they may never release anything, yet they are raising millions in the first couple days. If you invest in this, you won't have any coins for around 6 months, is it really worth it? Hopefully they do something amazing though, and everyone makes money!
People who invest without doing their homework deserve what they get. It is not your place to be their nanny.
For other traders and investors of cryptocurrency, it actually is their place due to being a zero sum game. If Vitalik manages to siphon millions out of crypto to provide for his yacht fund, that means other markets will see less revenue and collapse. Money received in scams usually doesn't recirculate in this sector.
Dude, just look at him! (Vitalik) He lived in an abandoned building writing code with the UnSYstem folks. He lived and worked in a way i could not imagine! and for what?? Can you honestly see him in a Labo? Do you really think he can't get a job making 6 figures doing development somewhere?
Also, if this is true, they have Merkle on their team.
To me, they seem like the most idealistic group of people and they honestly want to make a change for good in the world. I very well might be wrong but I don't mind throwing a couple of hundred at this and see how it does. I want to support them. They are not just making an alt-coin with a picture of a dog on it!
Someone should save this page, this will be quite useful later.
I have the original list in picture form on my post here from months ago:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7985897
Is it just me or they remove the "Team" page? LOL
It was on their homepage and now its gone. Someone should find a web cache.
It was on their homepage and now its gone. Someone should find a web cache.
Yes, Sir! You are right. Here:
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625071719/https://ethereum.org/#who
Vitalik Buterin
Founder
Charles Hoskinson
Founder
Anthony DiIorio
Founder
Mihai Alisie
Founder
Gavin Wood
Founder
Joseph Lubin
Founder
Jeffrey Wilcke
Founder
Amir Chetrit
Founder
Neal Koblitz
Advisor
Ralph Merkle
Advisor
Stephan Tual
Communications
Taylor Gerring
Development
Jeremy Wood
Administration
Mathias Grønnebæk
Development
Ryan Taylor
Development
Nicolas Fierro
Development
Richard Stott
Creative
Ian Meikle
Creative
Jason Colby
Administration
Roxana Sureanu
Administration
Anthony D'Onofrio
Development
Addison Cameron-Huff
Legal
Maran Hidskes
Development
Jonathan Mohan
Communications
Houwu Chen
Development/Partner
Hai Nguyen
Accounting
Ethan Wilding
Philosopher
Karl Gluck
Research
Russell Verbeeten
Business Development
Joeseph Chow
Strategy
Jerry Liu
Chinese Partner
Bin Lu
Chinese Partner
Someone should save this page, this will be quite useful later.
My business partner was from Toronto and he was also one of the early bitcoiners. He met Anthony in 2011. Anthony comes from a community college with every little understanding of bitcoin technology. Some of his talks was very laughable. As bitcoin price soars, he quit his "doors and windows" company.
Now the greedy pigs ready to hand him millions dollars
Now the greedy pigs ready to hand him millions dollars
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