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Subject: Re: Abuse Message [AbuseID:55B8AB:23]: AbuseNormal: Abuse Form: wex
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Yes, we have forwarded the complaint to our customer when the domain was =
online.=0D
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Important note:=0D
When replying to us, please leave the abuse ID [AbuseID:55B8AB:23] unchan=
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Kind regards=0D
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Hetzner Online GmbH=0D
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Fax: +49 9831 505-3=0D
[email protected]=0D
www.hetzner.com=0D
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Register Court: Registergericht Ansbach, HRB 6089=0D
CEO: Martin Hetzner=0D
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On 12 Dec 16:42, Lal Cellier wrote:=0D
> but you did forward the message to the customer when the domain was =0D=
> available. So you know which customer it is, correct?=0D
> =0D
> Le 12/12/2018 16:35, [email protected] a crit:=0D
> > I can't reach the site and also I don't get any IP if I do a ping to =
this site.=0D
> =0D
> you cant reach the site because the domain name does no longer resolves=
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> but if you add their last known to /etc/hosts with the wex1.nz, it =0D=
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> > On 12 Dec 16:32, Lal Cellier wrote:=0D
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> >> Hello,=0D
> >> Yes, the domain was removed, but theres still hosted at hetzner.=0D
> >> Just adding their to /etc/hosts and the website become reachable=0D=
> >> again (but with many server errors).=0D
> >> Le 12/12/2018 16:30, [email protected] a crit:=0D
> >>> Hello,=0D
> >>> Thank you for your reply.=0D
> >>> The site "https://wex1.in " has been removed.=0D
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> >>> Dominik Prner=0D
> >>> Hetzner Online GmbH=0D
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> >>> 91710 Gunzenhausen / Germany=0D
> >>> Tel: +49 9831 505-0=0D
> >>> Fax: +49 9831 505-3=0D
> >>> [email protected]=0D
> >>> www.hetzner.com=0D
> >>> Register Court: Registergericht Ansbach, HRB 6089=0D
> >>> CEO: Martin Hetzner=0D
> >>> On 12 Dec 16:04, Lal Cellier wrote:=0D
> >>>> I told yes for the forward one week ago, but didnt heard you again=
nor Wex.=0D
> >>>> Did you forwarded to customer as I requested?=0D
> >>>> If yes, you need to act while things are located in Germany.=0D
> >>>> Le 07/12/2018 11:06, [email protected] a crit:=0D
> >>>>> Dear Sir or Madam,=0D
> >>>>> We can only process your report by first forwarding them to our c=
ustomer.=0D
> >>>>> We cannot skip over this step. Your complaint cannot continue for=
ward unless it is first sent to the customer.=0D
> >>>>> Your report will ONLY be sent to the responsible customer if you =
agree this.=0D
> >>>>> Important note:=0D
> >>>>> When replying to us, please leave the abuse ID [AbuseID:55B8AB:23=
] unchanged in the subject line.=0D
> >>>>> Kind regards=0D
> >>>>> Abuse Team=0D
> >>>>> Hetzner Online GmbH=0D
> >>>>> Industriestr. 25=0D
> >>>>> 91710 Gunzenhausen / Germany=0D
> >>>>> Tel: +49 9831 505-0=0D
> >>>>> Fax: +49 9831 505-3=0D
> >>>>> [email protected]=0D
> >>>>> www.hetzner.com=0D
> >>>>> Register Court: Registergericht Ansbach, HRB 6089=0D
> >>>>> CEO: Martin Hetzner=0D
> >>>>> On 07 Dec 11:02, Lal Cellier wrote:=0D
> >>>>>> Guten Morgen,=0D
> >>>>>> The problem is if your forward to your customer, they will take =
the=0D
> >=0D
> >=0D
> >>>>>> funds out.=0D
> >>>>>> Normally, If a bank finds one of its client company (even financ=
ial) is=0D
> >>>>>> not only laundering but robbering funds too. They will freeze th=
e=0D
=0D
> >=0D
> >=0D
> >>>>>> accounts of such client first and notify after. Any bank would d=
o this=0D
> >>>>>> without any prior court proceedings.=0D
> >>>>>> With crytocurrencies youre the bank of those scammers.=0D
> >>>>>> You dont have access to their servers, but you have access to th=
eir=0D
> >=0D
> >=0D
> >>>>>> network exit point. You can definitely freeze their access (Im n=
ot=0D
> >=0D
> >=0D
> >>>>>> talking about accessing them but freeze until justice decides wh=
at to do).=0D
> >>>>>> Tschs,=0D
> >>>>>> Le 07/12/2018 07:05, [email protected] a crit:=0D
> >>>>>>> Dear Sir or Madam,=0D
> >>>>>>> Thank you for your abuse report.=0D
> >>>>>>> We can only process your report by first forwarding them to our=
customer.=0D
> >>>>>>> We cannot skip over this step. Your complaint cannot continue f=
orward unless it is first sent to the customer.=0D
> >>>>>>> Your report will ONLY be sent to the responsible customer if yo=
u agree this.=0D
> >>>>>>> Only the customer has administrative access to dedicated root s=
ervers.=0D
> >>>>>>> Hetzner Online GmbH does not have access to the server and ther=
efore, we are not able to access the content.=0D
> >>>>>>> Thanks for your cooperation in this matter.=0D
> >>>>>>> Important note:=0D
> >>>>>>> When replying to us, please leave the abuse ID [AbuseID:55B8AB:=
23] unchanged in the subject line.=0D
> >>>>>>> Kind regards=0D
> >>>>>>> Alexandra Beck=0D
> >>>>>>> Hetzner Online GmbH=0D
> >>>>>>> Industriestr. 25=0D
> >>>>>>> 91710 Gunzenhausen / Germany=0D
> >>>>>>> Tel: +49 9831 505-0=0D
> >>>>>>> Fax: +49 9831 505-3=0D
> >>>>>>> [email protected]=0D
> >>>>>>> www.hetzner.com=0D
> >>>>>>> Register Court: Registergericht Ansbach, HRB 6089=0D
> >>>>>>> CEO: Martin Hetzner=0D
> >>>>>>> On 06 Dec 18:32, [email protected] wrote:=0D
> >>>>>>>> wex scam after rumors of owner change=0D
> >>>>>>>> Formular-Daten=0D
> >>>>>>>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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=3D=0D
> >>>>>>>> Name: Lal Cellier=0D
> >>>>>>>> E-Mail: [email protected]=0D
> >>>>>>>> Sprache: en=0D
> >>>>>>>> Datenweitergabe: NICHT bewilligt=0D
> >>>>>>>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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> >>>>>>>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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=3D=0D
> >>>>>>>> Quelle: wex1.in=0D
> >>>>>>>> Kategorie: sonstiges=0D
> >>>>>>>> Beschreibung:=0D
> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------=0D
> >>>>>>>> Wex (originally wex.nz but now changing domains frequently) ha=
s stopped processing fiat withdrawals but many cryptocurrencies while sti=
ll accepting deposits. Just check the prices on the website https://wex1.=
in and compared to other plaftforms.=0D
> >>>>>>>> This could be ok if the situation was temporary but its going =
on for months and were left with the only explaination from support that =
its because service works is performed.=0D
> >>>>>>>> Obvisously their is fraud being performed with depositors mone=
y. They are likely using it for their own purpose.=0D
> >>>>>>>> While wex did allows to launder client money. It doesnt means =
all users are criminals as the original purpose is for trader to bet on c=
ryptocurrencies prices.=0D
> >>>>>>>> How does this related to Hetzner? youre hosting that website a=
nd while fiat is stored in banks, cryptocurrencies are stored on hard dri=
ves, that means on your hardware!=0D
> >>>>>>>> While youre not the liquidator of wex (wex is hiding in order =
to escape justice so there cant be liquidation) and are not responsible t=
o redistribute whats left.=0D
> >>>>>>>> I mean you should at least freeze their access until court pro=
ceed to liquidation of whats left on Hetzners hard drive. I think Hetzner=
could become legally liable for letting this the wexs staff to continue =
dry client money/assets. I mean by not doing this.=0D
> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------=0D
> >>>>>>>> Log(-auszge):=0D
> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------=0D
> >>>>>>>> My login name is lcellier associated with [email protected]=
om.=0D
> >=0D
> >=0D
> >>>>>>>> If login wasnt disabled (contrary to what wex claims). I could=
provide the proof that I have more than 8000USD equivalent.=0D
> >>>>>>>> But you can check the replies to their tweet on their official=
account https://twitter.com/WEXnz/. Im far from being the only user depo=
sitor being scammed.=0D
> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------=0D
> >>>>>>>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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but you did forward the message to the customer when the domain was
available. So you know which customer it is, correct ?
Le 12/12/2018 à 16:35, [email protected] a écrit :
> I can't reach the site and also I don't get any IP if I do a ping to this site.
you can’t reach the site because the domain name does no longer resolves
but if you add their last known ɪᴘ to /etc/hosts with the wex1.nz, it
will work.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hosts_(Datei)#Dateiformat
>
>
>
>
>
> Important note:
>
> When replying to us, please leave the abuse ID [AbuseID:55B8AB:23] unchanged in the subject line.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
>
>
> Dominik Prüßner
>
>
>
> Hetzner Online GmbH
>
> Industriestr. 25
>
> 91710 Gunzenhausen / Germany
>
> Tel: +49 9831 505-0
>
> Fax: +49 9831 505-3
>
> [email protected]
>
> www.hetzner.com
>
>
>
> Register Court: Registergericht Ansbach, HRB 6089
>
> CEO: Martin Hetzner
>
>
>
> On 12 Dec 16:32, Lal Cellier wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> Yes, the domain was removed, but theres still hosted at hetzner.
>> Just adding their to /etc/hosts and the website become reachable
>> again (but with many server errors).
>> Le 12/12/2018 16:30, [email protected] a crit:
>>> Hello,
>>> Thank you for your reply.
>>> The site "https://wex1.in " has been removed.
>>> Important note:
>>> When replying to us, please leave the abuse ID [AbuseID:55B8AB:23] unchanged in the subject line.
>>> Kind regards
>>> Dominik Prner
>>> Hetzner Online GmbH
>>> Industriestr. 25
>>> 91710 Gunzenhausen / Germany
>>> Tel: +49 9831 505-0
>>> Fax: +49 9831 505-3
>>> [email protected]
>>> www.hetzner.com
>>> Register Court: Registergericht Ansbach, HRB 6089
>>> CEO: Martin Hetzner
>>> On 12 Dec 16:04, Lal Cellier wrote:
>>>> I told yes for the forward one week ago, but didnt heard you again nor Wex.
>>>> Did you forwarded to customer as I requested?
>>>> If yes, you need to act while things are located in Germany.
>>>> Le 07/12/2018 11:06, [email protected] a crit:
>>>>> Dear Sir or Madam,
>>>>> We can only process your report by first forwarding them to our customer.
>>>>> We cannot skip over this step. Your complaint cannot continue forward unless it is first sent to the customer.
>>>>> Your report will ONLY be sent to the responsible customer if you agree this.
>>>>> Important note:
>>>>> When replying to us, please leave the abuse ID [AbuseID:55B8AB:23] unchanged in the subject line.
>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>> Abuse Team
>>>>> Hetzner Online GmbH
>>>>> Industriestr. 25
>>>>> 91710 Gunzenhausen / Germany
>>>>> Tel: +49 9831 505-0
>>>>> Fax: +49 9831 505-3
>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>> www.hetzner.com
>>>>> Register Court: Registergericht Ansbach, HRB 6089
>>>>> CEO: Martin Hetzner
>>>>> On 07 Dec 11:02, Lal Cellier wrote:
>>>>>> Guten Morgen,
>>>>>> The problem is if your forward to your customer, they will take the
>
>
>>>>>> funds out.
>>>>>> Normally, If a bank finds one of its client company (even financial) is
>>>>>> not only laundering but robbering funds too. They will freeze the
>
>
>>>>>> accounts of such client first and notify after. Any bank would do this
>>>>>> without any prior court proceedings.
>>>>>> With crytocurrencies youre the bank of those scammers.
>>>>>> You dont have access to their servers, but you have access to their
>
>
>>>>>> network exit point. You can definitely freeze their access (Im not
>
>
>>>>>> talking about accessing them but freeze until justice decides what to do).
>>>>>> Tschs,
>>>>>> Le 07/12/2018 07:05, [email protected] a crit:
>>>>>>> Dear Sir or Madam,
>>>>>>> Thank you for your abuse report.
>>>>>>> We can only process your report by first forwarding them to our customer.
>>>>>>> We cannot skip over this step. Your complaint cannot continue forward unless it is first sent to the customer.
>>>>>>> Your report will ONLY be sent to the responsible customer if you agree this.
>>>>>>> Only the customer has administrative access to dedicated root servers.
>>>>>>> Hetzner Online GmbH does not have access to the server and therefore, we are not able to access the content.
>>>>>>> Thanks for your cooperation in this matter.
>>>>>>> Important note:
>>>>>>> When replying to us, please leave the abuse ID [AbuseID:55B8AB:23] unchanged in the subject line.
>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>> Alexandra Beck
>>>>>>> Hetzner Online GmbH
>>>>>>> Industriestr. 25
>>>>>>> 91710 Gunzenhausen / Germany
>>>>>>> Tel: +49 9831 505-0
>>>>>>> Fax: +49 9831 505-3
>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>> www.hetzner.com
>>>>>>> Register Court: Registergericht Ansbach, HRB 6089
>>>>>>> CEO: Martin Hetzner
>>>>>>> On 06 Dec 18:32, [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>>>> wex scam after rumors of owner change
>>>>>>>> Formular-Daten
>>>>>>>> ===============================================
>>>>>>>> Name: Lal Cellier
>>>>>>>> E-Mail: [email protected]
>>>>>>>> Sprache: en
>>>>>>>> Datenweitergabe: NICHT bewilligt
>>>>>>>> ===============================================
>>>>>>>> Abuse-Daten
>>>>>>>> ===============================================
>>>>>>>> Quelle: wex1.in
>>>>>>>> Kategorie: sonstiges
>>>>>>>> Beschreibung:
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> Wex (originally wex.nz but now changing domains frequently) has stopped processing fiat withdrawals but many cryptocurrencies while still accepting deposits. Just check the prices on the website https://wex1.in and compared to other plaftforms.
>>>>>>>> This could be ok if the situation was temporary but its going on for months and were left with the only explaination from support that its because service works is performed.
>>>>>>>> Obvisously their is fraud being performed with depositors money. They are likely using it for their own purpose.
>>>>>>>> While wex did allows to launder client money. It doesnt means all users are criminals as the original purpose is for trader to bet on cryptocurrencies prices.
>>>>>>>> How does this related to Hetzner? youre hosting that website and while fiat is stored in banks, cryptocurrencies are stored on hard drives, that means on your hardware!
>>>>>>>> While youre not the liquidator of wex (wex is hiding in order to escape justice so there cant be liquidation) and are not responsible to redistribute whats left.
>>>>>>>> I mean you should at least freeze their access until court proceed to liquidation of whats left on Hetzners hard drive. I think Hetzner could become legally liable for letting this the wexs staff to continue dry client money/assets. I mean by not doing this.
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> Log(-auszge):
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> My login name is lcellier associated with [email protected].
>
>
>>>>>>>> If login wasnt disabled (contrary to what wex claims). I could provide the proof that I have more than 8000USD equivalent.
>>>>>>>> But you can check the replies to their tweet on their official account https://twitter.com/WEXnz/. Im far from being the only user depositor being scammed.
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> ===============================================
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----==_mimepart_5c112d504ddf5_349b2afbdc7779702210fe--Этим типам следует объяснить, что доменное имя и сервер - это две разные вещи.
Если бы я мог позвонить им, чтобы они не игнорировали мои электронные письма, я бы сделал это. есть ли волонтер, чтобы сделать это для меня? Их количество в сообщениях.