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Quote from: XZERO1 on March 29, 2021, 06:03:45 AM

you could easily do that with low cap altcoins, on centralized exchanges it's a bit risky as they have their own trading bots which could complicate things.

I don't think any legit centralized trading platform have their own bots for trading to complicate things. There are some low-life exchanges that display fake volumes and trading data but you can't say the same for good exchanges like Binance.

Quote from: XZERO1 on March 29, 2021, 06:03:45 AM

as for Uniswap or similar platforms you can just buy a low cap altcoin with lower trading volume on the dip and with buying from time to time increase the price slowly and many other traders seeing the price go up they would probably join you and make it even easier to pump and when it reached to your price point you can start selling slowly and make a good money out of it, I'm pretty sure that many whales even have their own bots that can do that and they just have to configure it differently for different tokens and trading setups.

Yes, but right now because of high transaction fees on ETH network, I think uniswap is no more a good option.

Quote from: XZERO1 on March 29, 2021, 06:03:45 AM

It goes without saying that it's not very smart doing that with absolute shitcoins as the sell pressure might be too high and it might not work as you wanted it too.

This is precisely the reason why I trade at known centralized exchanges instead of decentralized or lesser known exchanges because the trusted exchanges will only list good coins so at least the market won't collapse suddenly.

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Quote from: XZERO1 on March 29, 2021, 06:03:45 AM

Yep, you could easily do that with low cap altcoins, on centralized exchanges it's a bit risky as they have their own trading bots which could complicate things.

But as for Uniswap or similar platforms you can just buy a low cap altcoin with lower trading volume on the dip and with buying from time to time increase the price slowly and many other traders seeing the price go up they would probably join you and make it even easier to pump and when it reached to your price point you can start selling slowly and make a good money out of it, I'm pretty sure that many whales even have their own bots that can do that and they just have to configure it differently for different tokens and trading setups.

It goes without saying that it's not very smart doing that with absolute shitcoins as the sell pressure might be too high and it might not work as you wanted it too.

That has been done on centralized exchanges a long time before uniswap was even a thing. You have to realize it is not easy to trade on uniswap because it's very expensive, the ETH fee is incredibly high so thats why making a profit on that is very difficult as well, if you are looking for a profit on this method with a decentralized exchange you should be looking at things like pancakeswap where it is BSC and the fee is very little.

However those are not always loved neither, which is why I do not think that it will matter that much neither, people may not join you. So, it is harder to do this on a uniswap or pancake or any swap at decentralized exchanges. Centralized places however has a bigger chance to do this, people could get hyped and they could see that there is a lot of buys and sells and liquidity if you are rich enough you can make it look like that and get people hyped about it, and then get out when they jump in.

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Yep, you could easily do that with low cap altcoins, on centralized exchanges it's a bit risky as they have their own trading bots which could complicate things.

But as for Uniswap or similar platforms you can just buy a low cap altcoin with lower trading volume on the dip and with buying from time to time increase the price slowly and many other traders seeing the price go up they would probably join you and make it even easier to pump and when it reached to your price point you can start selling slowly and make a good money out of it, I'm pretty sure that many whales even have their own bots that can do that and they just have to configure it differently for different tokens and trading setups.

It goes without saying that it's not very smart doing that with absolute shitcoins as the sell pressure might be too high and it might not work as you wanted it too.

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Quote from: martina14 on March 28, 2021, 07:43:19 AM

There are some traders that if they see there is a 10% to their capital they set it up on it to that price, in short your profit
will depend on your goal target. Because if you want to earn big you need to set it up at the higher level of price value.
This is usually applied in a different individual traders actually were up to the present they do this pump and dump methods.

Those people decide on when to take profit whenever they want, it is not an easy thing to handle and it takes some courage to wait for it to happen but when it happens they take the biggest profit, this is why I think it is obvious for some people to be great traders and some people are not great traders. The reality is that if you are a person who is too emotional that means you are going to end up not being a good trader and that's why some people end up losing money.

However there are some people who can buy at 60k dollars, and make a profit even if it goes to 20k, because they end up buying more and dropping average and waiting no matter how much they have to and end up selling when it goes back up. There are just way too many people who would make a profit from this, there is nothing that people should be worried about if they can wait for the price to go back up.

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Quote from: thirdprize on February 28, 2021, 10:38:04 AM

If you brought low and it was now high, then you could start off selling high and keep selling lower to lower the price. People like a bargain would keep buying as it went down. As long as you don't go below your "low" then you know you could immediately buy it all back for a fraction of what you sold it for? Is there a name for this tactic?

There are some traders that if they see there is a 10% to their capital they set it up on it to that price, in short your profit
will depend on your goal target. Because if you want to earn big you need to set it up at the higher level of price value.
This is usually applied in a different individual traders actually were up to the present they do this pump and dump methods.

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Quote from: Smitty Werben Man Jensen on March 25, 2021, 12:02:22 PM

don't we go against the tactics of the whales, why? because if you fight then you will lose, trading has rules, the first don't fight the trend, the second don't be greedy, and the third buy gradually, this is the rule of good trading, if you fight the whales, then you are also called against the trend, so you must be follow the whales tactics

We have small amounts of cryptocurrency funds compared to the assets of the big whales, and therefore we cannot resist their manipulation in the cryptocurrency market. In fact, we cannot influence the processes, of course, if we are not talking about some coin that has a small trading volume and therefore each trader can influence the price that is at the moment. But as for the leaders of the cryptocurrency market, we accept the current situation and try to adapt to it.

Why would try to oppose if we arent financially capabled on doing such thing?Its better to go with the flow rather than on making out some issues about manipulation.
When it comes to any market then these whales does really exist no matter what because there are individuals or companies which are really that capable on buying in bulks
and it can really make out some significant effect into the market.Tactics? you can say so from time to time because they wouldnt really make any move that they wont
really benefit out.So instead on stressing yourself on how things do happen then better go with the flow and be wise on how to ride of with those waves.

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It can say its all around law of demand and supply tactic. Individuals acknowledge buying and offering with the current cost, and indeed in case the cost is tall or lower, individuals will still do simply.If have to be compelled to purchase low and offer tall, and in the event that you think that you simply as of now tank a pleasant benefit, you'll halt and leave the showcase and let the cost moves. In some cases, the cost will go down lower than the final time moo cost, but it can go tall without anticipating. Which is the pump coming at the advertise.

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Quote from: Smitty Werben Man Jensen on March 25, 2021, 12:02:22 PM

don't we go against the tactics of the whales, why? because if you fight then you will lose, trading has rules, the first don't fight the trend, the second don't be greedy, and the third buy gradually, this is the rule of good trading, if you fight the whales, then you are also called against the trend, so you must be follow the whales tactics

We have small amounts of cryptocurrency funds compared to the assets of the big whales, and therefore we cannot resist their manipulation in the cryptocurrency market. In fact, we cannot influence the processes, of course, if we are not talking about some coin that has a small trading volume and therefore each trader can influence the price that is at the moment. But as for the leaders of the cryptocurrency market, we accept the current situation and try to adapt to it.

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don't we go against the tactics of the whales, why? because if you fight then you will lose, trading has rules, the first don't fight the trend, the second don't be greedy, and the third buy gradually, this is the rule of good trading, if you fight the whales, then you are also called against the trend, so you must be follow the whales tactics

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A tactic of the whales is that when they want to buy, they want to do it very cheaply, the easiest thing for them is to generate news that is bad to cause panic in the weak hands, when they manage to launch bad news, people begin to sell no matter what nothing, because they think the important thing is not to lose. Some generate through social networks, others are owners of TV, news channels, some FUD, now any tweet from a celebrity can lift or forget a coin, I think that now the tools of millionaires are more accessible, the bad news They come faster than the good ones, this is how you can start that kind of strategy.

In the same way, to want the whales to sell, they can generate good news for people to buy while they sell.Currently the market has been moving due to people's emotions, emotions are what whales always want to manipulate, that is why the great power of social networks.

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Quote from: longyenthanh on March 21, 2021, 02:33:23 AM

Whales are everywhere be it stock, commodity or crypto. Better not to go against whales rather swim with them, you will get your profit. Whenever market goes down, buy and when it goes up to your target price, sell. Don't bother what whales are doing.

Not been bothered about what move the whale are making means you have to position your mind to be an investor and the investment has to be a long termed investment and not weekly or few days investment. Whale are capable of influencing the outcome of the market, therefore their every moves need to be studies closely to understand what's the possible out come of the coins they're interested in.

Whale manipulation isn't just associated with the cryptocurency market, other market has had their fair share of whales manipulation whether indirectly through causing a buzz around certain projecy or directly through buying into certain project or off loading their bags causing fud (panic) among retail investors or traders.

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Quote from: longyenthanh on March 21, 2021, 02:33:23 AM

Whales are everywhere be it stock, commodity or crypto. Better not to go against whales rather swim with them, you will get your profit. Whenever market goes down, buy and when it goes up to your target price, sell. Don't bother what whales are doing.

Perhaps, we are also having the benefits with them. They do the hypes, put some trap and dump the market, they are eventually doing this always. It comes to a trick and if we are not aware of this, we will end up caught in a trap. That is we need to be careful and we need to analyze the market first before making a buy. If we got in perfect timing, able to buy at low, then it is really great.

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The whales strategy is a pump and dump strategy that has been mentioned by many members of this forum, with large capital owned by whales,
allows whales to pump and dump some coins. Usually whales often make shitcoins suddenly pump high and turn small investors into FOMO,
and finally getting small investors to buy coins at high prices. Therefore, don't buy shitcoins, especially if the price is suddenly pumped.

Then whales also take advantage of the large capital they have to make a massive dump on top coins, create panic and make some investors sell
their coins at low prices and whales can buy top coins at low prices. So if we HODL some top coins with high volume, if a massive dump occurs,
there's no need to panic and be patient with HODL that coins. Usually it won't take long for the coins to increase in price.

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Quote from: so98nn on March 18, 2021, 02:14:15 AM

Many of them are calling it pump and dump strategy but it seems more or less other tactics. May be without a name but it could be called as resisting trading. I do this all the time because bitcoin is all about volatility and we must dominate this volatility to keep ourselves in the profits.

You have a good name for it lol Grin

. I couldn’t name it anything better than this. This is something I do like most of the times to make sure that I’m keeping my profit and I think it’s really important (for me and I don’t know for other because everyone has their own different strategy).

When I invest and the market goes up and then it starts going down, I have to sell some of the coins and I just keep doing that and if it happens to below my first buying point then I will have to invest again to make sure I get it at that lower price point and wait for another increase. But, I always make sure to study the market very well so that I am sure I’m doing anything I’m doing at the right time.

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Whales are everywhere be it stock, commodity or crypto. Better not to go against whales rather swim with them, you will get your profit. Whenever market goes down, buy and when it goes up to your target price, sell. Don't bother what whales are doing.

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Quote from: mersal on March 20, 2021, 12:22:47 AM

Whale tactics may works only if yiu have trading capital which is enough to alter the price of bitcoin itself for that you may need few millions to execute it properly. But the strategy is similar, sell when the price is high and wait for the price to be lowered then buy again hold it until the price gets higher.

Capital is just one thing, people here forget about the timeframe and other traders! You see, those pump and dump manipulations happen in hours, while many people sleep! Because any capital can be overrun by a group of people that can have more than you... What I wish to say, it's never just one factor like capital... there is time, skills, etc...

Recent Wall Stree/RobinHood/Gamestop shares situation is a great example of how whales can fall big time! How a group of people (a pretty large group of people) can fight with whales! I guess guys from Wall Street thought it will be an easy game for them, but definitely, they didn't count that group of people from Reddit can interfere and make a real mess on the market! Learn from this situation!

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Quote from: Kasabus on March 17, 2021, 09:21:04 AM

Dump and Pump are known tactics for everyone. It is either the whales doing this but deep inside, as a trader and holders are also benefiting from it.
You'll be lucky if you buy certain coins at low and have a chance to sell them during the hypes because not all the time that we have experiencing like that and very unfortunate that this kind of strategy been to slow down this time, not like how it has done last 2017 where we are surprised that even shitcoins just shoot up.

I do not know why people still bother with pump and dump tactics, they know what is happening and what will be the results if they fail so why do they keep investing in coins that are susceptible to this phenomenon?

It seems to me they are obsessed with obtaining big profits in a short amount of time with a small amount of capital trying to capture the early days of bitcoin when you could buy for cheap and then sell it for a fortune, but what happened with bitcoin is not something that happens every day, those days are over and are not going to come back, but on the bright side they can invest in bitcoin now and still obtain big profits if they are willing to hold their coins for the long term.

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Quote from: whyrqa on March 20, 2021, 08:01:35 AM

Quote from: mersal on March 20, 2021, 12:22:47 AM

Whale tactics may works only if yiu have trading capital which is enough to alter the price of bitcoin itself for that you may need few millions to execute it properly. But the strategy is similar, sell when the price is high and wait for the price to be lowered then buy again hold it until the price gets higher.

Then when big whales come into play in the cryptocurrency market, then even during a bull run, big corrections happen. It is then that the big Akitas fix their profits, which brings in a fairly large income, thanks to the huge volumes of assets. But we can only follow the market, making investments for a long period, and at the right time, at the very beginning of the correction, sell at a higher price, and then buy at a lower price, exactly as you said.

The whales now are big mining pools who sell from time to time. We see that with big China pools who sell the BTC almost a weeks notice. I hope we see less of that in future.

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Quote from: mersal on March 20, 2021, 12:22:47 AM

Whale tactics may works only if yiu have trading capital which is enough to alter the price of bitcoin itself for that you may need few millions to execute it properly. But the strategy is similar, sell when the price is high and wait for the price to be lowered then buy again hold it until the price gets higher.

Then when big whales come into play in the cryptocurrency market, then even during a bull run, big corrections happen. It is then that the big Akitas fix their profits, which brings in a fairly large income, thanks to the huge volumes of assets. But we can only follow the market, making investments for a long period, and at the right time, at the very beginning of the correction, sell at a higher price, and then buy at a lower price, exactly as you said.

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Whale tactics may works only if yiu have trading capital which is enough to alter the price of bitcoin itself for that you may need few millions to execute it properly. But the strategy is similar, sell when the price is high and wait for the price to be lowered then buy again hold it until the price gets higher.

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