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March 19, 2021, 01:24:45 AM
#57
There are too many tactics that whales can do in the market. Spreading FUD and FOMO is one of their best strategies and now pump and dump are most commonly heard from them. But wait, there is new aside from that, using the most influencer people that might whale can make a better movement in the market. We know that this happened to Elon Musk several times and probably he will continue using this tactic in the long run.

As normal investors of bitcoin or crypto, we should learn previous that we should not do panic selling, the more we do panic the more they laugh at us.
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March 19, 2021, 12:06:17 AM
#56
tactics like this will cause the effect of panic buy and panic sell. when the price starts to pump, the price will continue to rise and some people will also start to enter so that later there will be FOMO which makes the coin rise drastically. Then when the Pope gets his profit they will start selling it, things will turn around, the price will start to fall and people who have just entered at the high price will panic to sell it back.
many are stuck with this tactic and make some people lose because they cannot take advantage of the flash pump and dump market situation.
This is how the whales make money, with them dumping their coins and knowing the direction, they can trade based on that and make more money besides the coins that they have sold to flood the market, in cases like this, you have to think like a whale and do the opposite of what the other is currently doing because that was what the whale intended, for many people to lose and for the few whales to win.
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March 18, 2021, 08:32:29 PM
#55
tactics like this will cause the effect of panic buy and panic sell. when the price starts to pump, the price will continue to rise and some people will also start to enter so that later there will be FOMO which makes the coin rise drastically. Then when the Pope gets his profit they will start selling it, things will turn around, the price will start to fall and people who have just entered at the high price will panic to sell it back.
many are stuck with this tactic and make some people lose because they cannot take advantage of the flash pump and dump market situation.
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March 18, 2021, 07:20:58 PM
#54
If you brought low and it was now high, then you could start off selling high and keep selling lower to lower the price.  People like a bargain would keep buying as it went down.  As long as you don't go below your "low" then you know you could immediately buy it all back for a fraction of what you sold it for?  Is there a name for this tactic?

That's the tactics used by the whales. Since they have a big quantity of the coins with them which they bought at low prices, so if they dump straight away it will dump the market but at same time they won't have buyers order to whom they can sell. So they usually sell some portion and then let the market recovers and then sell more.

follow the strategy of whales, if you can't fight it then join in, this is what I learned from a movie,
yes the whales strategy is very easy to guess if you are an old player, but I'm not sure new players will avoid this, because many new traders buy high selling low, of course it is wrong, because if you play like that your capital will run out, play like whales do, or you can join him, the most important thing is not to be greedy when trading.
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March 18, 2021, 04:49:57 AM
#53
If you brought low and it was now high, then you could start off selling high and keep selling lower to lower the price.  People like a bargain would keep buying as it went down.  As long as you don't go below your "low" then you know you could immediately buy it all back for a fraction of what you sold it for?  Is there a name for this tactic?

That's the tactics used by the whales. Since they have a big quantity of the coins with them which they bought at low prices, so if they dump straight away it will dump the market but at same time they won't have buyers order to whom they can sell. So they usually sell some portion and then let the market recovers and then sell more.
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March 18, 2021, 03:14:15 AM
#52
Many of them are calling it pump and dump strategy but it seems more or less other tactics. May be without a name but it could be called as resisting trading. I do this all the time because bitcoin is all about volatility and we must dominate this volatility to keep ourselves in the profits. The low value is when you buy, when it goes higher you sell but you don’t stop it here. When the value goes down again you must re-invest your money plus profit and repeat this cycle until you get equal or more amount you invested. That’s resistance trading. For me.  Cheesy
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March 17, 2021, 07:35:47 PM
#51
If you brought low and it was now high, then you could start off selling high and keep selling lower to lower the price.  People like a bargain would keep buying as it went down.  As long as you don't go below your "low" then you know you could immediately buy it all back for a fraction of what you sold it for?  Is there a name for this tactic?

This whale tactics based on your explanation, might also be the way by some of the ordinary traders to gain in the future in the actual
trade, isn't that right? And this methods also implemented by the majority of the community traders here in this field of cryptocurrency
business.
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March 17, 2021, 07:31:44 PM
#50
If you brought low and it was now high, then you could start off selling high and keep selling lower to lower the price.  People like a bargain would keep buying as it went down.  As long as you don't go below your "low" then you know you could immediately buy it all back for a fraction of what you sold it for?  Is there a name for this tactic?
maybe this is a selling strategy for bag holders, because the system of bag holders is to buy when the price continues to decrease gradually, and sell when the price increases gradually, there is no definite name for the strategy, the most important thing about trading is the individual himself, profit is number 1,
it doesn't matter how complicated the strategy you implement, the important thing is that it generates a profit.
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March 17, 2021, 07:27:23 PM
#49
Actually, buying at a low price and selling at a high price, then when the price falls, buy again and sell again when the price is pumped. Such tactics
are carried out by all traders, not only by whales. What distinguishes ordinary traders and whales is only in the amount of capital in my opinion.
Whales have very large capital, which is able to move market prices. Therefore because the crypto market moves based on supply and demand,
whales with large capital can manipulate market prices.
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March 17, 2021, 07:11:13 PM
#48
If you brought low and it was now high, then you could start off selling high and keep selling lower to lower the price.  People like a bargain would keep buying as it went down.  As long as you don't go below your "low" then you know you could immediately buy it all back for a fraction of what you sold it for?  Is there a name for this tactic?

You can't sustain doing pump and dump for several times, there's a system monitoring in each exchanges. We can't beat the super computers programmed to deal on this situations which most traders did so many ways. Sometimes we may win on this strategy but it was unfortunate for those who didn't master how to trade using this method.
It needs more experience before engaging this kind of tactics, specially when you don't have huge funds to risk same with the whales.
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March 17, 2021, 10:21:04 AM
#47
Dump and Pump are known tactics for everyone. It is either the whales doing this but deep inside, as a trader and holders are also benefiting from it.
You'll be lucky if you buy certain coins at low and have a chance to sell them during the hypes because not all the time that we have experiencing like that and very unfortunate that this kind of strategy been to slow down this time, not like how it has done last 2017 where we are surprised that even shitcoins just shoot up.
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March 17, 2021, 04:24:51 AM
#46
If you brought low and it was now high, then you could start off selling high and keep selling lower to lower the price.  People like a bargain would keep buying as it went down.  As long as you don't go below your "low" then you know you could immediately buy it all back for a fraction of what you sold it for?  Is there a name for this tactic?
I wouldn’t say that what you have described here is pump and dump like other comments have said, this is not pump and dump, because in pump and dump what they do is to buy coins at cheaper and then they pump with their huge amount of money and once the price of that token is high they will sell it at that high rate, causing it to fall flat again.

But what you have described here is different from that, it’s just like someone investing at a lower price and then as the price goes high and starts going down again, they start selling bit by bit, so as to be cautious not to miss out if it eventually goes up again.
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March 09, 2021, 10:08:36 AM
#45
If you brought low and it was now high, then you could start off selling high and keep selling lower to lower the price.  People like a bargain would keep buying as it went down.  As long as you don't go below your "low" then you know you could immediately buy it all back for a fraction of what you sold it for?  Is there a name for this tactic?

As I understand it, this is a tactic of recruiting positions due to price fluctuations. Personally, I recently encountered such a situation on one exchange, and due to a decrease and increase in the price of one crypto asset, I was able to increase my balance in BTC. At the same time, personally, I myself did not influence the price of the asset, but simply waited for the moment when one of the users buys or sells, but this works better when the asset is sold, then I buy cheaper and then resell it at a profit for myself. Probably this is just the moment that you described and if you can find such an opportunity, then you can certainly make good money on it.
The tactic is called 'rinse and repeat'. Whales force the price down for a cryptocurrency, with the aim to create a selling panic. They sit back for a while as markets scramble for cover, and then buy the same assets again.Bitcoin whales are like other majority asset holders: their movements have outsized impacts on the bitcoin market, either through increased volatility, decreased liquidity, or a combination of both. If the seller is trying to sell bitcoin for state currency, the lack of liquidity and large transaction size could put downward pressure on the price of bitcoin, as other market participants see the transaction and also try to sell
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March 08, 2021, 03:53:33 PM
#44
If you brought low and it was now high, then you could start off selling high and keep selling lower to lower the price.  People like a bargain would keep buying as it went down.  As long as you don't go below your "low" then you know you could immediately buy it all back for a fraction of what you sold it for?  Is there a name for this tactic?

As I understand it, this is a tactic of recruiting positions due to price fluctuations. Personally, I recently encountered such a situation on one exchange, and due to a decrease and increase in the price of one crypto asset, I was able to increase my balance in BTC. At the same time, personally, I myself did not influence the price of the asset, but simply waited for the moment when one of the users buys or sells, but this works better when the asset is sold, then I buy cheaper and then resell it at a profit for myself. Probably this is just the moment that you described and if you can find such an opportunity, then you can certainly make good money on it.
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March 08, 2021, 02:44:07 PM
#43
its a tactics and not everyone can do it. if not a pro, you can lose all your profits and even your capital in the process of doing this. its not a good way of trading especially for newbies. its also a good opportunity for those who know how to read signals and trading parameters to eat from the whales table and get out before they do.
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March 08, 2021, 10:13:04 AM
#42
I think there's nothing new regarding the old process of the whales tactic which is the invest when the coin is stable to make a pump so for sure there are a lot of people getting more courage because they think the coin is going up again and comes with this trap. After the whales that the profit is enough they can pull out their investment without hesitation they can easily manipulate the market because they have a large number of coins so they don't worry too much profit is a profit it doesn't matter how much at the end of the day you set the goal is to earn.
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March 08, 2021, 09:33:53 AM
#41
Whales give us more than what we expected in the market. Have we thought that we can reach $50k without them? Whales did this, reach people did this, and that because they are helping the market more alive and attractive. If some people think they are the one who benefits the hypes, if course not, because all of us are benefiting then. That is why you hold your Bitcoin for how many years because you are also hoping that one day, whales make you paid off.

I don't think we need to hate them but instead, we are so thankful to have them.
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March 08, 2021, 07:38:19 AM
#40
yes its a tactic but you would want to have a good understanding of the markets
and be able to read the various charts and signals otherwise you could end up
buying back at a higher price than you sold at
That is not a problem for whales as they can offset the losses by leverage trading depending whether they have a loss or a profit. Not to mention that most whales have their own team of TA that helps them decide the trades that they are going to do.

There are a large number of institutional investors in the market, whose goals may be opposite at some point. In such cases, if your understanding of the market is excellent, you will incur losses. And this loss will be as large as the leverage you will use. It is for this reason, I think, that these very whales do not use margin.
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March 08, 2021, 03:30:17 AM
#39
yes its a tactic but you would want to have a good understanding of the markets
and be able to read the various charts and signals otherwise you could end up
buying back at a higher price than you sold at
That is not a problem for whales as they can offset the losses by leverage trading depending whether they have a loss or a profit. Not to mention that most whales have their own team of TA that helps them decide the trades that they are going to do.
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March 08, 2021, 12:54:13 AM
#38
Especially when talking about highly liquid trading pairs like BTC/USDT, good luck moving the price with only 2 BTC though. It would take A LOT more than 2 BTC to move to have a significant effect. With that low of a capital, your only chance with potentially manipulating prices is with low-cap altcoins.
Agreed. A few years ago that was a possibility if someone had 100k dollars they can play with the trading pairs but it is not so easy now.

Isn't this a buy low sell high tactic?  I won't call it a pump and dump because there is no organization or group that triggers the increase in price in your given scenario.  You stated that the increase in price appears naturally and no one is manipulating the trade either.
It is rather called as day trading I would say where traders are just observing the market and acting accordingly.

The trouble with the strategy you're describing is once you've entered a sharply defined dump phase, prices usually don't rebound very far after confidence, faith and expectations are shattered by the sharp downtrend.
Yes, the market falls of even further below the expectations because when a dump is happening everyone who holds sell some coins at least which creates Domino effect.
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