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Quote from: Mr.right85 on July 18, 2023, 03:33:12 PM

Quote from: letteredhub on July 14, 2023, 04:02:59 AM

How pathetic!

Pathetic right? But these things happens. Perhaps not in the same way but,once therr wasn't any pre-agreed sharing formula amongst gamblers, there would always be one person who would sort out means to cheat the other with some entitlement argument like we have in OP.
In the real sense, it's wrong of the account owner to seek a lion share in this as, it wasn't agreed upon, the risk was equaly shared and as much as they would have had to carry equal amount to a lose, same ideology should follow instances of profit.

I don't see a reason why i would go physical while gambling as my model for gambling is very simple although, I would hate to discover that I was being cheated on a good bet.

We need to be wise as a gambler especially if we are a street gambler because that is where this kind of things can easily happens. We need to know and understand the kind of cycle we are betting in some that it will give us the ideology to know how to react when things goes wrong or when the other gamblers want to cheat to have the largest share by taking the funds. It is not ethical for us to fight when we gamble so avoid violence that can lead to bigger problem that can be difficult to handle. It is better for us to use our intelligence to handle the matter than to fight back or be the first to start a fight.

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Quote from: Mr.right85 on July 18, 2023, 03:33:12 PM

Quote from: letteredhub on July 14, 2023, 04:02:59 AM

How pathetic!

Pathetic right? But these things happens. Perhaps not in the same way but,once therr wasn't any pre-agreed sharing formula amongst gamblers, there would always be one person who would sort out means to cheat the other with some entitlement argument like we have in OP.
In the real sense, it's wrong of the account owner to seek a lion share in this as, it wasn't agreed upon, the risk was equaly shared and as much as they would have had to carry equal amount to a lose, same ideology should follow instances of profit.

I don't see a reason why i would go physical while gambling as my model for gambling is very simple although, I would hate to discover that I was being cheated on a good bet.

Heat of the moment more likely. Us men however we deny it are susceptible to drastic measures when we're desperate and backed into a corner, sometimes (as in this case of the fucking idiot who thought it would be actually nice to dupe a fellow gambler off of his fair share of win) we even cause these drastic situations to come around. But the thing is, most of us right here wouldn't even dare get into fights like these let alone get into an interaction that would lead to an altercation of sorts. Dare I say we don't even have friends to do this with cause we're either embarrassed to barge them into this thing/hobby of ours, or we just suck at socializing, so while this is a general possibility through and through, I don't think this is something that happens everyday.

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Quote from: letteredhub on July 14, 2023, 04:02:59 AM

How pathetic!

Pathetic right? But these things happens. Perhaps not in the same way but,once therr wasn't any pre-agreed sharing formula amongst gamblers, there would always be one person who would sort out means to cheat the other with some entitlement argument like we have in OP.
In the real sense, it's wrong of the account owner to seek a lion share in this as, it wasn't agreed upon, the risk was equaly shared and as much as they would have had to carry equal amount to a lose, same ideology should follow instances of profit.

I don't see a reason why i would go physical while gambling as my model for gambling is very simple although, I would hate to discover that I was being cheated on a good bet.

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Quote from: letteredhub on July 14, 2023, 04:02:59 AM

What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler? And would you agree at anytime to double cash with your fellow gambler to place a bet using his account, on the notion of increasing the potential win.

To be honest, I don't want to get into fights with anyone so I prefer to gamble on my own rather than using someone else's account. I have a friend who a few months ago used someone else's account to gamble because he couldn't create his own account and couldn't complete the verification process due to missing documents. Anyway, he just won the bet but when he went to the account's owner to claim his winnings, he realized he had been scammed. The scammer had disappeared taking all the money from my friend's big win.

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there are things in life that you should not share with friends or relatives, in the case that you mentioned, in casinos your TOS ( I am using the phrase " in casinos " because this is in the TOS of all casinos ) are very clear: " 1 account for each person", so when a person creates an account, that person is accepting these terms and must guarantee that he will not use that account with other people, so in this story that you told, the person who agreed to put his money in the account another person lost all rights the moment he agreed to do such an absurd thing, there will be no way to prove that he was the owner of half the money

even if he were to complain to the police, there would be no way for the police to get any proof that he was telling the truth, unless he had made some video when he was giving money to his friend and also he should have a witness, that too would have problems in the casino itself that upon discovering this could freeze the funds and close the account of the person who had done this. my advice: never do that, friendship has to have limits, casino account and something serious, because the person agreed with the terms that the casino put in place, so everyone needs to respect these terms

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Quote from: letteredhub on July 14, 2023, 04:02:59 AM

I heard of a story about two gamblers that got into a serious fight on the grounds that a bet they merged an amount of money equally to place using the online account of one person among their two. Luckily for them the bet won. But something happened, when it got to the sharing formula of the total amount won the owner of the account insisted on taking a lion's share since it was his account that was used in placing the bet. The latter refusing to accept it that way they got into a serious fight. How pathetic!

What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler? And would you agree at anytime to double cash with your fellow gambler to place a bet using his account, on the notion of increasing the potential win.

Well gambling is difficult enough to take it psychologically so I can't imagine why others still tends to fight other gamblers and making it more difficult. Like can't you just play and enjoy the game? I think it's just a matter of small misunderstanding then leads to a bigger fight. Because in the first place, if they already had an agreement about what and which of them have the least or equal division of profits that won;t end uup like that. But since they don't, they had the quarrel. Very unprofessional.

So you avoid those type of things. Only risk your own funds! not others. Your money so your own responsibility. Don't make your gambling and your life difficult.

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Quote from: yazher on July 18, 2023, 07:05:09 AM

I happened to witness a fight when two parties didn't want the call of the ref and decided to rumble inside the basketball court because the other team is losing, they probably betting thousands of dollars because they were rich. this often happens when the other team is not honest and wanted to play intensely just before the end of the 4th quarter especially when they see they are about to lose the game. The game of basketball has been famous in this country but some of these people wanted to play more by putting in some money every time they play.

It is very inappropriate if there is a fight on the field that is being used as a place for matches to be held, but maybe because there was a large amount of betting so that one of the losing parties could not accept losing the money because the team at stake lost the match.
I myself have never witnessed gamblers fight in the field.
From my personal experience, it is between local bookies and bettors where the dealer doesn't want to pay the gambler's winnings and instead wants to run away.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on July 17, 2023, 10:15:19 AM

Personally, if I were to gamble, the thing that could make me lose my temper and fight with fellow player is the moment they decide to pull a dirty trick on me or to start disrespecting the people that I love for whatever reason they have.

If they disrespect my friends or the game or club I supported is not enough for me to engage them on a fight, but the worst they could do is to involve my family, then they will see another colour shade of me from the place instantly, i dislike seeing people having disrespect over my family or bullying them with their dirty mouth saying all manner of shits, that alone is a means to arose the vexation spirit in me.

Quote from: AicecreaME on July 17, 2023, 10:15:19 AM

I will not really let is slide because disrespect is something I cannot tolerate even if how famous, good looking, or rich you are. If you cheat on me or disrespect my loved ones, expect that there will be an argument. But of course, I will handle it with dignity at first, I'll make sure to be calm and be the bigger person but if you continue to be an asshole, then you'll have to face my wrath.

Don't be surprised that some gamblers don't mind with the kind of dirty acts because they were used to it already, that kind of a lifestyle is what they lived in daily, they know their gangs and someone like me who does not belong to them cannot tolerate such manners, this could result into a right as well, but we also have to be mindful of the kind of people we take as friends or where we choose to engage physical gambling experience.

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Despite engaging in gambling, it is essential to uphold dignity within the realm of sportsmanship. Playing gambling games with close friends can be highly enjoyable; however, maintain your composure while gambling. Always be prepared for the worst-case scenario, as it is something you must do before placing your bets. If you become involved in wagering and fail to uphold fairness in gambling, believe in the presence of negative karma that will continue to loom over you.

If you find it challenging to accept defeat while gambling with friends, it is best to avoid gambling with them altogether. Engage in such activities only when you have the ability to gracefully embrace the worst outcome when gambling against your friends, upholding wise sportsmanship.

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That's another unfortunate story to read since that incident might get avoided if the person hold the money did not became so greedy. If people participating on such activities will be fair and share the winnings either they get a small win or big for sure both parties will get satisfied with the result. But if something like this might happen then its better to move on and place our bet solely so that we will not experience that also we will not commit any mistake that we regret later on.

There is no doubt that a person can become greedy after holding a lot of money from gambling to make him feel that he is the one who won it. That person should be able to feel that without the help of his friends who combine his money into one, he and his friends will not be able to get really big winnings. So they should share the winnings fairly and not be jealous of one another. If we can't find friends who can be fair and not jealous, we should gamble with our own money so that we will take all the winning money if we win.

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I happened to witness a fight when two parties didn't want the call of the ref and decided to rumble inside the basketball court because the other team is losing, they probably betting thousands of dollars because they were rich. this often happens when the other team is not honest and wanted to play intensely just before the end of the 4th quarter especially when they see they are about to lose the game. The game of basketball has been famous in this country but some of these people wanted to play more by putting in some money every time they play.

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Quote from: letteredhub on July 14, 2023, 04:02:59 AM

What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler? And would you agree at anytime to double cash with your fellow gambler to place a bet using his account, on the notion of increasing the potential win.

I will never merge our bets or gamble using my friend's account because it can lead to problem. When it comes to money people can become greedy. In this situation the friend justify his reason to have a lion's share because it is his account even he clearly knows that they both risk their money equally.

Well, I can get into fight if a person cheat on me or accused me that i'm a cheater (even i'm not) just because I win. But it doesn't mean we'll going to fight each other, so will try to resolve it calmly and see if it will work.

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This is exactly what will get me into a fight with my partner, I mean, I would first discuss everything before placing the bet, but if he still does something like this, I won't back up because I have already settled the things at the beginning and if he brings up something new now and says he will take extra just because of something that doesn't really make any sense, what if it was his account, the money was equally merged so that prize should be equally distributed as well.

I'm actually not a fan of doing things this way to be honest, I believe one should do everything by their own and shouldn't have any kind of partnership with anyone because there are always problems when you partner up with someone especially if there is money involved in the partnership.

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Quote from: letteredhub on July 14, 2023, 04:02:59 AM

What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler?

I won't fight with anyone not to talk of gambling..The only time I would fight, is when I have to defend myself or protect my loved ones. There are many ways that the issues would have been resolved but of all ways they chose the most primitive methods.

It is really best to not get into a fight, no matter if they call you a coward on that, because what I've learned is that if ever you get into a fight, let's say you are the stronger one, but what if that opponent dies, like when you punch him and get knocked down but hit his head in the side walk and dies? Yes, you are really strong, but for sure you'll face jail time on that. That is why it is better to be called a coward than to fight.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on July 17, 2023, 10:15:19 AM

Personally, if I were to gamble, the thing that could make me lose my temper and fight with fellow player is the moment they decide to pull a dirty trick on me or to start disrespecting the people that I love for whatever reason they have. I will not really let is slide because disrespect is something I cannot tolerate even if how famous, good looking, or rich you are. If you cheat on me or disrespect my loved ones, expect that there will be an argument. But of course, I will handle it with dignity at first, I'll make sure to be calm and be the bigger person but if you continue to be an asshole, then you'll have to face my wrath.

Indeed, in cases like this there needs to be some consideration. For some people who have full trust in friends or relatives it is still very doable, but when we still have a lot of considerations and concerns IMO it is not very suitable if forced because in the end this will be a condition where we will continue to be haunted by a sense of panic which indirectly this can disrupt harmony with friends or family who are made partners and can lead to worse relationships.
Avoiding the worst situations and possibilities from the start I think is a good step rather than forcing a situation that ultimately becomes bad.

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Quote from: letteredhub on July 14, 2023, 04:02:59 AM

I heard of a story about two gamblers that got into a serious fight on the grounds that a bet they merged an amount of money equally to place using the online account of one person among their two. Luckily for them the bet won. But something happened, when it got to the sharing formula of the total amount won the owner of the account insisted on taking a lion's share since it was his account that was used in placing the bet. The latter refusing to accept it that way they got into a serious fight. How pathetic!

What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler? And would you agree at anytime to double cash with your fellow gambler to place a bet using his account, on the notion of increasing the potential win.

Choosing a physical body combat with a friend, fighting has a low likelihood of being triggered. I can put up with a lot of awful things from my colleague, but when it comes to splitting an agreed-upon amount of money. I gamble with pooled finances with my colleagues; once, when the results were enormous, he tried cheating, I fractured his left arm; from then on, he seldom looked me in the eye to cheat; instead, we got closer together and shared a lot of things in common. I'm not joking; I'll go to exceptional lengths to satisfy my needs and desires. Perhaps we make money simply because we want to satisfy what we're lacking.

Those are the possibilities that can arise from pooling money for gambling or other things because of an imbalance in the distribution of money. And money can do very bad things which, if not stopped, can cause division or break up of friendships that we already have. When we succeed in winning large amounts of money, greed will surely appear in each person and they feel that they are the ones who are most entitled to get the most amount. And when the other friends don't accept it, they will reject it and that's where the split started.

Becoming closer than ever seem a rare occasion when it comes to quarrel about money because normally its breaking someone's trust. A person who would hear about the incident will have to ask themselves if the person can be trusted, they will not even attempt to play with him anymore. The ones who cheated are often condemn from the circle of friends. Sometimes literally shoo away.

Becoming close friends is quite different. But whos to say, friends with same feathers stick together. No offense Grin

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Quote from: Josefjix on July 18, 2023, 12:23:37 AM

Quote from: letteredhub on July 14, 2023, 04:02:59 AM

I heard of a story about two gamblers that got into a serious fight on the grounds that a bet they merged an amount of money equally to place using the online account of one person among their two. Luckily for them the bet won. But something happened, when it got to the sharing formula of the total amount won the owner of the account insisted on taking a lion's share since it was his account that was used in placing the bet. The latter refusing to accept it that way they got into a serious fight. How pathetic!

What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler? And would you agree at anytime to double cash with your fellow gambler to place a bet using his account, on the notion of increasing the potential win.

Choosing a physical body combat with a friend, fighting has a low likelihood of being triggered. I can put up with a lot of awful things from my colleague, but when it comes to splitting an agreed-upon amount of money. I gamble with pooled finances with my colleagues; once, when the results were enormous, he tried cheating, I fractured his left arm; from then on, he seldom looked me in the eye to cheat; instead, we got closer together and shared a lot of things in common. I'm not joking; I'll go to exceptional lengths to satisfy my needs and desires. Perhaps we make money simply because we want to satisfy what we're lacking.

Those are the possibilities that can arise from pooling money for gambling or other things because of an imbalance in the distribution of money. And money can do very bad things which, if not stopped, can cause division or break up of friendships that we already have. When we succeed in winning large amounts of money, greed will surely appear in each person and they feel that they are the ones who are most entitled to get the most amount. And when the other friends don't accept it, they will reject it and that's where the split started.

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Quote from: letteredhub on July 14, 2023, 04:02:59 AM

What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler?

I won't fight with anyone not to talk of gambling..The only time I would fight, is when I have to defend myself or protect my loved ones. There are many ways that the issues would have been resolved but of all ways they chose the most primitive methods.

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And would you agree at anytime to double cash with your fellow gambler to place a bet using his account, on the notion of increasing the potential win.

There is nothing wrong here. I did it during the world cup tournament and we had no issues. Well, let's say I trust my friends and our value system aligns.

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Quote from: letteredhub on July 14, 2023, 04:02:59 AM

I heard of a story about two gamblers that got into a serious fight on the grounds that a bet they merged an amount of money equally to place using the online account of one person among their two. Luckily for them the bet won. But something happened, when it got to the sharing formula of the total amount won the owner of the account insisted on taking a lion's share since it was his account that was used in placing the bet. The latter refusing to accept it that way they got into a serious fight. How pathetic!

What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler? And would you agree at anytime to double cash with your fellow gambler to place a bet using his account, on the notion of increasing the potential win.

Choosing a physical body combat with a friend, fighting has a low likelihood of being triggered. I can put up with a lot of awful things from my colleague, but when it comes to splitting an agreed-upon amount of money. I gamble with pooled finances with my colleagues; once, when the results were enormous, he tried cheating, I fractured his left arm; from then on, he seldom looked me in the eye to cheat; instead, we got closer together and shared a lot of things in common. I'm not joking; I'll go to exceptional lengths to satisfy my needs and desires. Perhaps we make money simply because we want to satisfy what we're lacking.

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Quote from: letteredhub on July 14, 2023, 04:02:59 AM

I heard of a story about two gamblers that got into a serious fight on the grounds that a bet they merged an amount of money equally to place using the online account of one person among their two. Luckily for them the bet won. But something happened, when it got to the sharing formula of the total amount won the owner of the account insisted on taking a lion's share since it was his account that was used in placing the bet. The latter refusing to accept it that way they got into a serious fight. How pathetic!

What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler? And would you agree at anytime to double cash with your fellow gambler to place a bet using his account, on the notion of increasing the potential win.

If it would be just about me and my money as a young man, i would be annoyed and probably provokative, but that's all.
But if my friend would decieve me now, it wouldn't be just me who would be affected, it would be everyone i am providing to. I would see that guy taking away a trip from my kids that i could have given to them, and that would piss me off beyond belief. So fight would be least of his worries. That is if i would have such "friends" which i don't. And i wouldn't put people on that position anyway where they would have to choose if they give my share or not.

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