What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler? - page 9.

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Quote from: letteredhub on July 14, 2023, 03:02:59 AM

I heard of a story about two gamblers that got into a serious fight on the grounds that a bet they merged an amount of money equally to place using the online account of one person among their two. Luckily for them the bet won. But something happened, when it got to the sharing formula of the total amount won the owner of the account insisted on taking a lion's share since it was his account that was used in placing the bet. The latter refusing to accept it that way they got into a serious fight. How pathetic!

What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler? And would you agree at anytime to double cash with your fellow gambler to place a bet using his account, on the notion of increasing the potential win.

Life is lived in this manner. You can't really consider everyone you call a friend. When money is involved, those you think of as your friends may not actually be your friends. It's good to occasionally bring up the subject of money with your friend so you can see your friends' true colors.

In this situation, if it transpires that I am the one who won the money and the account owner is demanding more than anticipated, I will quietly leave the entire sum of money for him and cut him off as a friend rather than get into a fight with him to keep me from going insane because, in reality, this is not done and there is no way that two people could be mad at the same time.

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Quote from: letteredhub on July 14, 2023, 03:02:59 AM

I heard of a story about two gamblers that got into a serious fight on the grounds that a bet they merged an amount of money equally to place using the online account of one person among their two. Luckily for them the bet won. But something happened, when it got to the sharing formula of the total amount won the owner of the account insisted on taking a lion's share since it was his account that was used in placing the bet. The latter refusing to accept it that way they got into a serious fight. How pathetic!

Waw this is serious but it’s just funny to me, why is he going to take the lion share just because they used his account, that’s just craziness, since they contributed the same amount then they should share the money equally, if they lose the bet, will he give the other person some percentage of the amount lost because they used his account? I don’t even see anything that will cause any misunderstanding here, they contributed the same amount to gamble, then they should share the money equally, it’s very simple.

In life you don’t have to trust anybody when their is money involved, no matter the relationship that’s between you people, some people call money evil and anybody can change at you when they know that money is involved, I don’t really like joining money with someone when am doing anything, because have heard that some friends have killed each other just because they joined money to establish business and the business was successful, so one person wanted to claim the ownership of the business and he killed the other friend. When it comes to money don’t trust anybody.

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Having someone to bet for you on a different account would not be ideal because you won't have any control over it. The person can be greedy and would have a problem with you if something happens with the decisions to play on a certain game or which team to bet it on. It's going to be hard to trust someone if it concerns money (this is dependent of course on the status of the person). Sometimes, if the money is really life-changing, it's going to be a different talk.

I think you would get into a fight with a fellow gambler if he didn't make ends meet or didn't contribute to anything.

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This is stupid, I wouldn't accept this kind way to make more money because I care with other people. But of course there are many people fine to accept this because they think they have a lot friends and losing few friends will not ruin their life.

However this kind challenge will increase the gambler become an addict because he's looking to make more money despite he will lose many thing in his life.

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That will happen if two people combine some money to gamble because there are bound to be disputes between them, especially regarding money. They can feel they should get more money from their wins, but others will feel the same way. And that is a risk that they must face, so it's better if we don't have to combine our money with our friends so that there will be no disputes and even trigger fights between us.

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Well, fortunately I never got into fights with my friends because of a gambling problem. Because I also think things related to money and gambling should be avoided from friendships. If we still want to go on with our friends or people closest to us, it's better if these 2 things are kept away, because from several people I know - and I took lessons from them - that things related to money and gambling will usually make a mess in friendships, because I understand that each of us has greed, and I really avoid it.

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Quote from: letteredhub on July 14, 2023, 03:02:59 AM

I heard of a story about two gamblers that got into a serious fight on the grounds that a bet they merged an amount of money equally to place using the online account of one person among their two. Luckily for them the bet won. But something happened, when it got to the sharing formula of the total amount won the owner of the account insisted on taking a lion's share since it was his account that was used in placing the bet. The latter refusing to accept it that way they got into a serious fight. How pathetic!

What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler? And would you agree at anytime to double cash with your fellow gambler to place a bet using his account, on the notion of increasing the potential win.

first thing when it comes to money involving one or two people, it become something serious that can s[poil relationship or reputation and to what you saying, the owner of the account his selfish and is not reasonable at all just because his account his used does not mean that he should get the lion share, has far has am concern they both used the same amount of money to place bet, anyone could have used there account to place the bet, the best they can do is to seek legal advice it will settle everything, if not the dude with the account wants to play smart.

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Quote from: letteredhub on July 14, 2023, 03:02:59 AM

I heard of a story about two gamblers that got into a serious fight on the grounds that a bet they merged an amount of money equally to place using the online account of one person among their two. Luckily for them the bet won. But something happened, when it got to the sharing formula of the total amount won the owner of the account insisted on taking a lion's share since it was his account that was used in placing the bet. The latter refusing to accept it that way they got into a serious fight. How pathetic!

What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler? And would you agree at anytime to double cash with your fellow gambler to place a bet using his account, on the notion of increasing the potential win.

If you are using shared funds to make bets that will create a mess. Especially when your partner makes a bet which you wouldn't approve and lose it... Let's say we have a $50k shared bankroll but we only make bets if both of us agree with it. Then your partner wagers $5k on some stupid game and loses it... Wouldn't you be angry about it? That would violate the ToS of this partnership.

Luckily, since I only use my own funds to make bets, this is never going to happen to me.

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Quote from: letteredhub on July 14, 2023, 03:02:59 AM

I heard of a story about two gamblers that got into a serious fight on the grounds that a bet they merged an amount of money equally to place using the online account of one person among their two. Luckily for them the bet won. But something happened, when it got to the sharing formula of the total amount won the owner of the account insisted on taking a lion's share since it was his account that was used in placing the bet. The latter refusing to accept it that way they got into a serious fight. How pathetic!

They are both very silly to make the decision of putting money together to gamble. To avoid this issue they would have played the same game but on their different accounts to avoid this mess. Also they would have made clear on how to share it if they finally won, instead of waiting on first to win the money. The friend who is demanding more simply because it was on his account that the bet was placed is a very greedy individual, because the only basis where you can demand more money from what you both won is when the amount that you added to make the bet is greater than the other person's own. This is something involving money and it is enough to cause a fight especially when it is a huge amount.

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Quote from: letteredhub on July 14, 2023, 03:02:59 AM

I heard of a story about two gamblers that got into a serious fight on the grounds that a bet they merged an amount of money equally to place using the online account of one person among their two. Luckily for them the bet won. But something happened, when it got to the sharing formula of the total amount won the owner of the account insisted on taking a lion's share since it was his account that was used in placing the bet. The latter refusing to accept it that way they got into a serious fight. How pathetic!

What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler? And would you agree at anytime to double cash with your fellow gambler to place a bet using his account, on the notion of increasing the potential win.

Nothing as I only place mutual bets with people I trust to death and no one else.Therefore nothing would make me fight with a fellow gambler if we placed this kind of bet because we both would set the limits before placing the bet and when the bet would be a win no matter at which account it is the money is shared in equal amounts.I have done this several times during big events like Euro or World Cup with a few colleagues and we never had a problem when we won this type of bet,the money was shared equally among each of the participants of such bet.

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Quote from: letteredhub on July 14, 2023, 03:02:59 AM

I heard of a story about two gamblers that got into a serious fight on the grounds that a bet they merged an amount of money equally to place using the online account of one person among their two. Luckily for them the bet won. But something happened, when it got to the sharing formula of the total amount won the owner of the account insisted on taking a lion's share since it was his account that was used in placing the bet. The latter refusing to accept it that way they got into a serious fight. How pathetic!

What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler? And would you agree at anytime to double cash with your fellow gambler to place a bet using his account, on the notion of increasing the potential win.

Its kinda foolish for someone to actually place a bet with another regardless even if its your friend or brother because I'd to think that online gambling is personal and why place a bet in another person's when you can do same in your account. Money has spirit and it can cause havoc even for the best of friend like it did in this story of yours maybe before they placed the bet they never actually discussed how the sharing formula is going to be maybe they didn't actually think they would win the bet.

Well for me, I like doing my things private and don't feel I would ever get into a fight over gamble issues even if its concerns winning.

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Quote from: letteredhub on July 14, 2023, 03:02:59 AM

What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler?

If one party is cheating on the other by stealing the games of the other and when it gets to his turn to give out his own game for the bet he hides away. I have seen this causing problem where friends can decide to share analysis and combine games but on the other party's turn he refuse to allow the friend to see his game and went to bet and win. It led the other cheated partner to complain and they fought and separated from being friends.

Quote from: letteredhub on July 14, 2023, 03:02:59 AM

And would you agree at anytime to double cash with your fellow gambler to place a bet using his account, on the notion of increasing the potential win.

I agree that when you stake higher then the cash out will be higher, that may be the basis for those joining resource to do that but aside from that, people can play differently to avoid those kinds of problems. On the whole I think it is greed that will make people only think of possibilities of bigger win from bonus or increased potential winning if they join resources together without considering issues that may arise from that, or without having a proper agreement.

To have agreement before the stake is more problem solving than to allow problem to arise because of proper arrangements.

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Quote from: xSkylarx on July 14, 2023, 05:14:21 AM

Cheating is really one of the reasons that you'll get into fights; it is the same as what you stated in the OP, as we really don't want it and we want a fair game. Also, let's say if you bring a girl to the casino and someone disrespects her, that is also one. I think that's only the reason why you'll get into a fight, but usually it is better to stay away when there are fights just to be safe, and if you are in that situation, it is better to not fight back unless it is the last resort.

But who will conclude that this is cheating? The other person can say that he used is phone for the gambling and that he has to pay for it and tell him that he will take more share of the money won. Although, if it is me, I will not count that kind of person as my friend again. But that is just the one I have hear about before, we even discussed one in this forum, that the other person run away with the money and it is not a small amount of money. It is good to be independent, place bet for yourself and not to depend on somebody to do it for you.

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Cheating is really one of the reasons that you'll get into fights; it is the same as what you stated in the OP, as we really don't want it and we want a fair game. Also, let's say if you bring a girl to the casino and someone disrespects her, that is also one. I think that's only the reason why you'll get into a fight, but usually it is better to stay away when there are fights just to be safe, and if you are in that situation, it is better to not fight back unless it is the last resort.

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Quote from: letteredhub on July 14, 2023, 03:02:59 AM

I heard of a story about two gamblers that got into a serious fight on the grounds that a bet they merged an amount of money equally to place using the online account of one person among their two. Luckily for them the bet won. But something happened, when it got to the sharing formula of the total amount won the owner of the account insisted on taking a lion's share since it was his account that was used in placing the bet. The latter refusing to accept it that way they got into a serious fight. How pathetic!

What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler? And would you agree at anytime to double cash with your fellow gambler to place a bet using his account, on the notion of increasing the potential win.

People can do anything for the sake of money nowadays and it's not surprising when things like this happen. They ought to have enter into an agreement before placing the bet and not when the game have won. A gambler should not be too lazy to fund their own account to the extent of using their fellow gambler's account to bet. If you have high hopes on the game then you should visit agent shops near to your location instead and place the bet. Sadly, the latter is handicap already because the former has access to the account and fight will not change that.

Now, to answer your question, I will no engage in fighting with anyone for the sake of gambling. I will accept the sharing formula if he refuses to agree with equal sharing formula since half loaf is better than none, consider the remaining money as lost ticket and forfeit it. Lesson learnt and that's the most important thing in this whole case.

Note: I will not merge money with anyone using their account to place a bet

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That's why I don't want to gamble with my friends, moreover they know I often play online gambling, it's better to play alone at home without friends knowing that I play actively gambling whether I win or lose, for me to play just for fun not for money , obviously there will be fights if I play with friends who gamble for money while I look for fun. nothing will be the same for thoughts and goals.

If that happens, there are friends who want to use our account to increase their betting profits, of course, as account owners, we don't need to peg our friend's money even though he won a lot of money, that's why there must be an agreement before a dispute occurs, it's best to bet for yourself, don't use it. our own account and used by other people even though it is our own friends.

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Quote from: letteredhub on July 14, 2023, 03:02:59 AM

I heard of a story about two gamblers that got into a serious fight on the grounds that a bet they merged an amount of money equally to place using the online account of one person among their two. Luckily for them the bet won. But something happened, when it got to the sharing formula of the total amount won the owner of the account insisted on taking a lion's share since it was his account that was used in placing the bet. The latter refusing to accept it that way they got into a serious fight. How pathetic!

What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler? And would you agree at anytime to double cash with your fellow gambler to place a bet using his account, on the notion of increasing the potential win.

Here is the introduction of greed. Money saves a person and greed for money does not stop a person from committing evil deeds. Here if the gambler loses then the entire loss would be on the person who invested the money. Greed for money is a very serious thing that gets people into a lot of trouble and even leads to death. And the fight that happened in your story is absolutely right and normal

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The reason for a fight is stupid. If the bet was made with their joint money, then then they have to share profit proportionally. In other case, the one who owns money should take all the profit and it would be his decision to reward the other person or not (a person who probably made a decision to place a correct bet). If I was one of them, I would not fight for the money and would try to solve the situation in calm and verbal way. But, I would fight a friend, only if I know he cheated or lied to me and that caused me loosing money. And even then, I would think twice before I would start a fight; instead I would better "lose" such "friend".

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Quote from: letteredhub on July 14, 2023, 03:02:59 AM

What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler? And would you agree at anytime to double cash with your fellow gambler to place a bet using his account, on the notion of increasing the potential win.

Fight? First and foremost, I am not physically suited to engage in fights with anyone. I don't think I'll ever be so desperate for gambling that I'll have to use someone else's gambling account to place a bet, and even if I do, I don't think I'll have any problem sharing the money with my friends because we've done things together before and had no problem sharing the profits, so this won't be any different.

I have to agree with the statement above mine; if you ever need to gamble and don't have access to your account, it's best to find a gambling agent and place a wager with them if you don't trust your friend.

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Quote from: letteredhub on July 14, 2023, 03:02:59 AM

What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler? And would you agree at anytime to double cash with your fellow gambler to place a bet using his account, on the notion of increasing the potential win.

Stupidity, and I will not be stupid in something like that. If I have phone or computer, I will gamble myself. If I do not have phone or computer, I will go to a betting agent.

You will know who your friend is and you can predict what he can do. You two also supposed to have an agreement before betting at all.

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