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Quote from: letteredhub on July 14, 2023, 03:02:59 AM

I heard of a story about two gamblers that got into a serious fight on the grounds that a bet they merged an amount of money equally to place using the online account of one person among their two. Luckily for them the bet won. But something happened, when it got to the sharing formula of the total amount won the owner of the account insisted on taking a lion's share since it was his account that was used in placing the bet. The latter refusing to accept it that way they got into a serious fight. How pathetic!

What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler? And would you agree at anytime to double cash with your fellow gambler to place a bet using his account, on the notion of increasing the potential win.

This is actually a funny thing but it can also be a good lesson because when combining like that even though the profit (if winning) will be more but the worst possibility is that after winning there will also be some disputes like this.
This should be used as an example that even if friends then indeed when talking about money things like this are still possible and can even be said to be very possible to happen.
I have never experienced some disputes with other gamblers because for now I am still on the online site without going out to be at the gambling table and I also do it alone without any help from others or maybe combine as the OP said in the story he got because I avoid things like what happened at the end with the dispute.

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What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler?

People who can easily just start a fight in any place will easily get into a fight, but for people who do not like fighting, they will do their best to avoid fighting at much cost. I do not like to fight because I do not like injuries and bruises on my skin, so I always do my best to avoid situations that will lead to any fighting. If I am the person who my friend wants more after we merge money to place a bet, I will let them have their way if I notice that it will lead to a physical fight, I will let them take the greater portion, take my portion and then learn my lesson never to trust such a friend again or any other person who suggests that we put money together to gamble.

Realistically speaking, I think the major factors that does led to serious fight among gamblers are either greed or failure to win after several stakings.
Greed in the sense that the two people who are gamblers and had chosen to gamble against themselves give the winning to any member who perfectly do what is required of him/her and then when one person is losing more, he/she will automatically want to anything that'll lead to fight.

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Quote from: letteredhub on July 14, 2023, 03:02:59 AM

What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler? And would you agree at anytime to double cash with your fellow gambler to place a bet using his account, on the notion of increasing the potential win.

If he gets my win of course, but I will not deal with any gambler on a casino especially the one who is not familiar with me and the risk is there, even if he asked me to double my bet and he will gave me the money, i will still not allow it. Every time I go to casino alone as much as possible I want to have my own space and talk to no one, this is me enjoying gambling and I hope every players can respect that.

^That is the point and trusting someone else with your bets and finances can introduce additional risks and potential complications, especially if they are unfamiliar to you. Maintaining control over your own gambling decisions allows you to have a clear understanding of your limits and ensures that you are solely responsible for the outcomes. For me avoiding arrangements that involve sharing accounts or doubling bets with others, you can avoid the potential for misunderstandings, conflicts, or financial risks. Because respecting each individual's personal preferences and boundaries is crucial within the gambling community.

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There's really none that I could think of. If I entrusted some money to another person and decide to gamble it, that's on me because I became blind entrusting money to someone in a venture that is a hit or miss. Perhaps if another gambler threatened to do harm to me in exchange of something that is related to gambling, that's the time I might go angry and ask for a fight. Some scenarios in here, I don't think I'll even bother myself getting hurt or wasting energy talking just to prove a point. In the end, it's me who put myself in such a position, so why should I go angry and ask for something stupid?

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The problem with money is that its brings out the greedy nature if every human and I don't think its even advisable to place a bet together with someone even if its your brother on same account knowing that both of you are greedy when its come to money. I would play that same game on my own account regardless of playing it together with the person so that if the results actually favours, I would also have a portion of same winning in my own separate account.

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Quote from: letteredhub on July 14, 2023, 03:02:59 AM

I heard of a story about two gamblers that got into a serious fight on the grounds that a bet they merged an amount of money equally to place using the online account of one person among their two. Luckily for them the bet won. But something happened, when it got to the sharing formula of the total amount won the owner of the account insisted on taking a lion's share since it was his account that was used in placing the bet. The latter refusing to accept it that way they got into a serious fight. How pathetic!

Trust never exists when money is involved. This is not shocking to me because I have before witnessed money separating two buddies. Some people just don't act maturely at all, but if they were mature, they would have discussed how the percentage should be split even before placing the bet, and if they couldn't come to an agreement, they should have abandoned the bet.

Quote from: letteredhub on July 14, 2023, 03:02:59 AM

What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler? And would you agree at anytime to double cash with your fellow gambler to place a bet using his account, on the notion of increasing the potential win.

They could have used a different account and still won the bet, so why should the account owner receive a higher share? I simply think that greed was at work when the account owner demanded a larger portion. Even though I generally oppose tag betting, I can never argue with a fellow gambler if it does take place. And if he complains that we used his account to wager and that he wants a bigger share, I'll just let things be peaceful and take whatever he wants to give me, but that will be the last time I conduct business with him that involves money.

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Quote from: letteredhub on July 14, 2023, 03:02:59 AM

I heard of a story about two gamblers that got into a serious fight on the grounds that a bet they merged an amount of money equally to place using the online account of one person among their two. Luckily for them the bet won. But something happened, when it got to the sharing formula of the total amount won the owner of the account insisted on taking a lion's share since it was his account that was used in placing the bet. The latter refusing to accept it that way they got into a serious fight. How pathetic!

But, in my opinion, the source of these conflicts is a fairly straightforward problem that can be resolved within them. And beside they are also friends, so this is not a problem, I think, and because they each gave the same sum of money, why shouldn't they split it equally without conflict? Oh my God, what if they lost the game? Would he have to reimburse him since they used his account? I don't think he would. Therefore, I'm shocked that he's seeking to take the lion's part of this only because he used his account to place a bet.

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And would you agree at anytime to double cash with your fellow gambler to place a bet using his account, on the notion of increasing the potential win.

However, if I didn't have a gambling account online, I would go to a betting shop to put my bet and have a ticket for hand, so that if the game comes, I can go there and collect my money in person. I can't use anyone's account to place a bet because I want the money to be large. The ability of money to make man do anything now makes it possible to prevent these kinds of disputes or confrontations.

It means, he is not friend after all as he changed his decisions when he saw the money coming in in his account.
If you are a true friend in the first place, you would respect whatever the agreement was.
Win or lose, you will keep your word with your friend. But the OP's story is not new, as most people have greed inside.
And if I am in the situation, I will fight with that person and tell him to respect what has been agreed in the first place.

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Quote from: letteredhub on July 14, 2023, 03:02:59 AM

What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler? And would you agree at anytime to double cash with your fellow gambler to place a bet using his account, on the notion of increasing the potential win.

If he gets my win of course, but I will not deal with any gambler on a casino especially the one who is not familiar with me and the risk is there, even if he asked me to double my bet and he will gave me the money, i will still not allow it. Every time I go to casino alone as much as possible I want to have my own space and talk to no one, this is me enjoying gambling and I hope every players can respect that.

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Quote from: letteredhub on July 14, 2023, 03:02:59 AM

What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler? And would you agree at anytime to double cash with your fellow gambler to place a bet using his account, on the notion of increasing the potential win.

Any outcome that wasn't predetermined in our deal would result in a dispute from my side. I don't like clever people who try taking advantage of the situation or that change the rules previously stated accordingly to their own interests on the present moment. I wouldn't say I would fight like a caveman, because that isn't how we solve problems nowadays, but I would definitely stay away from that person and cut any kind of relationship and contact I had with them.

I don't see this act as been a clever one,instead I see it as greed and dishonesty. It is better to avoid such person because he is not a friend but an enemy,who fills that you are his tool which he wants to use to make money. The best thing one will do to such person is to avoid him totally so that you don't think that he is a friend. It is not everyone that you call your friends that the same thought towards you,some are with you to benefit from you while some are there to sacrifice for you. Gambling should be done solo to avoid such experience. I have seen some cases like this one that you said OP. It is very annoying that can make two friends fight,if you can't overlook it.

Yes, I would feel really angry if the situation OP described happened to me. Imagine a partner you were betting cooperatively side by side told you he should grab a larger piece of profit just because you were using his personal account on the casino to gamble. Lol, that is the epitome of dishonesty, because each party gave the same amount of money to gamble, besides paying the same withdrawal and transaction's fees on the act of exchanging crypto into fiat. It costs nothing to have an account at a casino platform and to operate it, so it makes no sense to charge an extra "fee" for that.

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Quote from: letteredhub on July 14, 2023, 03:02:59 AM

I heard of a story about two gamblers that got into a serious fight on the grounds that a bet they merged an amount of money equally to place using the online account of one person among their two. Luckily for them the bet won. But something happened, when it got to the sharing formula of the total amount won the owner of the account insisted on taking a lion's share since it was his account that was used in placing the bet. The latter refusing to accept it that way they got into a serious fight. How pathetic!

But, in my opinion, the source of these conflicts is a fairly straightforward problem that can be resolved within them. And beside they are also friends, so this is not a problem, I think, and because they each gave the same sum of money, why shouldn't they split it equally without conflict? Oh my God, what if they lost the game? Would he have to reimburse him since they used his account? I don't think he would. Therefore, I'm shocked that he's seeking to take the lion's part of this only because he used his account to place a bet.

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And would you agree at anytime to double cash with your fellow gambler to place a bet using his account, on the notion of increasing the potential win.

However, if I didn't have a gambling account online, I would go to a betting shop to put my bet and have a ticket for hand, so that if the game comes, I can go there and collect my money in person. I can't use anyone's account to place a bet because I want the money to be large. The ability of money to make man do anything now makes it possible to prevent these kinds of disputes or confrontations.

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Quote from: letteredhub on July 14, 2023, 03:02:59 AM

What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler?

other than if they try to cheat me or try to steal my money, other than that I can't think of anything. but I am pretty sure other people especially gambling addicts will get into a fight with another gambler for something trivial.

Quote from: letteredhub on July 14, 2023, 03:02:59 AM

And would you agree at anytime to double cash with your fellow gambler to place a bet using his account, on the notion of increasing the potential win.

No, it is always never a good idea to combine your bet with someone and use their account to bet on something in hopes of increasing the possible winning amount.

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Wow, that's nuts! I all, the point of gambling is to have fun, not to risk getting hit in the nose. Arguing with a gambling machine is like attempting to win a bet; it's just...pathetic. For my part, the only time I'd ever pick a battle with another gambler is if they cheated or broke their promise. In this context, trust is crucial. But I'm not the fighting type; I'd rather settle things verbally, perhaps with a strongly worded email. Using someone else's bankroll in a gamble. Absolutely not! That's a surefire way to invite trouble, as your own experience shows. Even if it entails a lower payout percentage, I'd rather be in charge of my own bets. When in doubt, err on the side of caution

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Quote from: letteredhub on July 14, 2023, 03:02:59 AM

I heard of a story about two gamblers that got into a serious fight on the grounds that a bet they merged an amount of money equally to place using the online account of one person among their two. Luckily for them the bet won. But something happened, when it got to the sharing formula of the total amount won the owner of the account insisted on taking a lion's share since it was his account that was used in placing the bet. The latter refusing to accept it that way they got into a serious fight. How pathetic!

What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler? And would you agree at anytime to double cash with your fellow gambler to place a bet using his account, on the notion of increasing the potential win.

Well that for one would definitely spark conflicts between a different gambler and me. Although thanks to my introvert-ass I don't really socialize that much nor go out of my own way to talk to people, let alone persuade them to merge bets with me. It's also possible for me to have an issue with someone when I feel like things are being taken personal. Don't get it wrong I actually love friendly banter within the table especially if it's with my closest circle of friends but they know quite well not to tick my switch on certain topics, else they risk offending me and ruining the table's mood.

If you'd sum it all up it's all a matter of respecting the other person's principles really. If you're positive you'd be a total jackass while you're gambling then I'd suggest you actually gamble alone so you don't risk getting gut punched or something.

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Quote from: letteredhub on July 14, 2023, 03:02:59 AM

I heard of a story about two gamblers that got into a serious fight on the grounds that a bet they merged an amount of money equally to place using the online account of one person among their two. Luckily for them the bet won. But something happened, when it got to the sharing formula of the total amount won the owner of the account insisted on taking a lion's share since it was his account that was used in placing the bet. The latter refusing to accept it that way they got into a serious fight. How pathetic!

How pathetic indeed,
Shows there were never friends, as if they were, then maybe they would have understood each other better and such a fight will not occur.
But then, the one whose account was used for placing the bet is a greedy fellow and such people should not be associated with., how can you want to take a lion share on a bet you both spent the same amount of money to place, why didn't he say it earlier let it be an agreement between them two before placing the bet?

Really pathetic.

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What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler? And would you agree at anytime to double cash with your fellow gambler to place a bet using his account, on the notion of increasing the potential win.

I never will get into a fight with a fellow gambler, because I never will join my money with just any gambler to bet, except the person is my very good friend whom I've known, and he also have known me for a very long time, nothing will make me get into a fight such person, even if I join bet with him and he disappoints me, there are several better ways to resolve such issues than fighting.

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Quote from: letteredhub on July 14, 2023, 03:02:59 AM

What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler?

People who can easily just start a fight in any place will easily get into a fight, but for people who do not like fighting, they will do their best to avoid fighting at much cost. I do not like to fight because I do not like injuries and bruises on my skin, so I always do my best to avoid situations that will lead to any fighting. If I am the person who my friend wants more after we merge money to place a bet, I will let them have their way if I notice that it will lead to a physical fight, I will let them take the greater portion, take my portion and then learn my lesson never to trust such a friend again or any other person who suggests that we put money together to gamble.

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Quote from: alastantiger on July 14, 2023, 02:26:09 PM

Quote from: letteredhub on July 14, 2023, 03:02:59 AM

I heard of a story about two gamblers that got into a serious fight on the grounds that a bet they merged an amount of money equally to place using the online account of one person among their two. Luckily for them the bet won. But something happened, when it got to the sharing formula of the total amount won the owner of the account insisted on taking a lion's share since it was his account that was used in placing the bet. The latter refusing to accept it that way they got into a serious fight. How pathetic!

Greed reveals the worse in humans and it is absolutely disgusting. And the situation where greed rears it ugly head is when there is money involved between two people who are financially indiscipline. Or maybe one party is disciplined and the other is not. When it comes to money matters be very extra careful. If you are dealing with another person, if you cannot get them to sign a written agreement, get a third party to stand as a witness. This will make the mediation process should any disagreement occur quick.

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What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler? And would you agree at anytime to double cash with your fellow gambler to place a bet using his account, on the notion of increasing the potential win.

I have never gotten into a fight with a fellow gambler and I will never. The day it happens is the day I'll stop gambling for the rest of my life. I have seen people fight, but not me. Life is way bigger and better than whatever can cause a fight between myself and a fellow gambler.

When it comes to money despite how small the amount if one party wants to escalate it, the fight happens. Somehow it make sense when the amount is bigger but in the end friendship is lost already when trust is gone.

I actually think gambler will get into a brawl if they caught someone on the table cheating. It would be chaos when your playmates sees there's a 5th Ace on the table.

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Quote from: letteredhub on July 14, 2023, 03:02:59 AM

I heard of a story about two gamblers that got into a serious fight on the grounds that a bet they merged an amount of money equally to place using the online account of one person among their two. Luckily for them the bet won. But something happened, when it got to the sharing formula of the total amount won the owner of the account insisted on taking a lion's share since it was his account that was used in placing the bet. The latter refusing to accept it that way they got into a serious fight. How pathetic!

Greed reveals the worse in humans and it is absolutely disgusting. And the situation where greed rears it ugly head is when there is money involved between two people who are financially indiscipline. Or maybe one party is disciplined and the other is not. When it comes to money matters be very extra careful. If you are dealing with another person, if you cannot get them to sign a written agreement, get a third party to stand as a witness. This will make the mediation process should any disagreement occur quick.

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What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler? And would you agree at anytime to double cash with your fellow gambler to place a bet using his account, on the notion of increasing the potential win.

I have never gotten into a fight with a fellow gambler and I will never. The day it happens is the day I'll stop gambling for the rest of my life. I have seen people fight, but not me. Life is way bigger and better than whatever can cause a fight between myself and a fellow gambler.

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Merging your betting funds with another bettor will surely cause conflicts in the future. It would be better to gamble alone and do not get anyone involved in your gambling journey because we all know the risks if there's a money involved in gambling. It would better if we'll do a decision making alone and make transactions by ourselves so we can freely decide what to do.
Friendships and relationships could easily be ruined because of money and so as gambling so as much as possible, we better enjoy the freedom of doing gambling all by ourselves. Thereare already plenty of stories that is relatable to this so we better learn from how their relationships got broken because of mney involvement.

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That's nonsense; in this modern world, how can someone not have a smart Mobile phone that they can just use to do some online stuff for themselves, like gambling? Huh

Even if I were in the guy's situation, I wouldn't fight with him; I would just argue with him, but if it's fruitless, then I just have to leave with what I can have and blame myself for having taken such a foolish decision without reaching an open agreement on the sharing % even before placing the bet.

Because even if the case were to be judged, the question would be, "Before agreeing to merge the money, did you guys also reach an agreement on how to share the money, perhaps if you won?" In that case, the bet was placed on the guy's account and with his device, so case closed, take what he gives you.

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Quote from: uneng on July 14, 2023, 12:32:27 PM

Quote from: letteredhub on July 14, 2023, 03:02:59 AM

What could make you get into a fight with your fellow gambler? And would you agree at anytime to double cash with your fellow gambler to place a bet using his account, on the notion of increasing the potential win.

Any outcome that wasn't predetermined in our deal would result in a dispute from my side. I don't like clever people who try taking advantage of the situation or that change the rules previously stated accordingly to their own interests on the present moment. I wouldn't say I would fight like a caveman, because that isn't how we solve problems nowadays, but I would definitely stay away from that person and cut any kind of relationship and contact I had with them.

I don't see this act as been a clever one,instead I see it as greed and dishonesty. It is better to avoid such person because he is not a friend but an enemy,who fills that you are his tool which he wants to use to make money. The best thing one will do to such person is to avoid him totally so that you don't think that he is a friend. It is not everyone that you call your friends that the same thought towards you,some are with you to benefit from you while some are there to sacrifice for you. Gambling should be done solo to avoid such experience. I have seen some cases like this one that you said OP. It is very annoying that can make two friends fight,if you can't overlook it.

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