What do think about skill games? - page 4.

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Quote from: lienfaye on October 11, 2020, 05:48:20 PM

So having skills plus luck are needed, thats why there are gamblers who make gambling as profession or relying on it for a living.

That's the wonder of playing skill games.

Even with a bad set, you can turn the table, for example with the card-game you mentioned and for other card games as well.

Luck won't just come to us if we don't have skills. And even with a good set, without skills, winnings are not always 100%. But for the part that I will use my skills to rely on gambling to make living, that's a no for me.

We can't feel that luck if we don't do anything to win.
It called skilled-games because it definitely requires skills to play. Yeah, if you have the skill you can make a change of the game. That is why if you could look into a game between a newbie and a 10-year-old gambler, you can see the difference in how they play. Because the more you've got in gambling especially in this field, the more you have gained knowledge and improve your skills.

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Quote from: lienfaye on October 11, 2020, 05:48:20 PM

So having skills plus luck are needed, thats why there are gamblers who make gambling as profession or relying on it for a living.

That's the wonder of playing skill games.

Even with a bad set, you can turn the table, for example with the card-game you mentioned and for other card games as well.

Luck won't just come to us if we don't have skills. And even with a good set, without skills, winnings are not always 100%. But for the part that I will use my skills to rely on gambling to make living, that's a no for me.

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Games that I played based on skills are Sports betting, Poker and Tongits (a traditional card game here).

They are fun to play with but aside from your skills (to have an edge to win) luck is also necesssary in order to have a high chance of winning.

So having skills plus luck are needed, thats why there are gamblers who make gambling as profession or relying on it for a living.

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Quote from: DabsPoorVersion on October 10, 2020, 05:40:59 PM

Quote from: Porfirii on October 10, 2020, 04:32:30 PM

I think that "skill games" create some illusion of control in the player when, in fact, luck is much more determinant than skill.

Take for example a card game like Hearthstone: it is clear that the better dock and knowledge you have can be crucial to win, but it is much more of an illusion than a reality.

I haven't researched it on myself, but I have read a few studies, and this is what studies said Cheesy

Can you provide us the link where you have read those studies,

Because I don't think that we can call it as an illusion of control when it comes to skill games. Yes, luck is still belong especially when it comes to card games, but the thing is, if you have a skill, you will know what to do at the very beginning whatever card you will get.

I don't remember where exactly I read those studies as it was long ago and I don't have a special interest in the topic, just curiosity.

But in wikipedia they talk about this phenomenon related to skill games: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illusion_of_control

And I have found an abstract at Elsevier about a research that could be interesting to read https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0148296315001320

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The skills-based casino games give less R:R for gambler compared to the luck-based casino slots but the winning chance is very high depending on the ability to paly and experience. The Blackajck, Poker, and Esports are well-known skill games in both bookies and casinos, each player has a different level of playing skills which can be crucial during the gameplay. I usually prefer to count cards in Blakcjack if the deck counts are less than 8.

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Every gambler wants to win more, but as you start looking for ways to improve your skills and your results you can see that it can lead to good results.
And there are many different ways to learn more about gambling and start improving your skills without spending a fortune, you can improve your gambling skills by reading books on gambling masters, tutorials on youtube and reading a lot about gambling skills or anything else.
Skills will give you a chance to win if you continue to hone them well.

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Quote from: Oceat on October 11, 2020, 02:28:00 PM

You consider this as risky compare to the luck and chances? Well, if you don't trust your skills in the first place you are already lost even the game hasn't started yet. It all depends on your perspective on how you see things differently even if your opponent is skillful, every gamers should have at least a secret weapon under their sleeves. It's called outsmarting your opponent just like how you play chess you planned carefully your next move, that's how skills should work.

Skill are the secret weapon in gambling? I think that's great. In skill-based games, in my opinion, a confident attitude toward our abilities (skill) is very important because this is the most appropriate way to make yourself excited to beat your opponent even though there are time when the reality is different. Without this attitude, I think we will continue to be haunted by doubts throughout the game and it wouldn't be good. Just to say, never underestimate all opponent because it could be a boomerang that will hit us back.

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Quote from: Assface16678 on October 11, 2020, 07:59:14 AM

Skill games for me are one of the risks to play because you cannot measure the capability of a person.

You consider this as risky compare to the luck and chances? Well, if you don't trust your skills in the first place you are already lost even the game hasn't started yet. It all depends on your perspective on how you see things differently even if your opponent is skillful, every gamers should have at least a secret weapon under their sleeves. It's called outsmarting your opponent just like how you play chess you planned carefully your next move, that's how skills should work.

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Quote from: bitcoin31 on October 06, 2020, 06:35:48 PM

How about those player don't have enough skills to play that games once they play maybe they lost more money. I think it's better for us to play to the traditional games because possible to you win a money even you did not skilled player only luck if you win or not. Skills game is new game and it's my first time to see that game and I think most us too are curious on how that games rate the player skilled of if they win or not.

While you are correct on what you say one of the things I have noticed is that very few people have the necessary skills to accurately measure how good they are at something, someone could be terrible at skilled based games and still think they are great, in most cases these delusions are harmless which is why we have them but when it comes to gambling it can be extremely dangerous to do such thing as you are putting money at risk and by the time you discover you are no good at those games then you have lost all your money.

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Quote from: Assface16678 on October 11, 2020, 07:59:14 AM

Skill games for me are one of the risks to play because you cannot measure the capability of a person.

Well, you won't play in a game where you lack experience in a game, and probably if you can't measure the person's capability in a game, you can know based on experiences, concept, and idea what he/she will do. If I know myself that I'm very good at a specific gambling game, I'll go play with it and spent all the bettings on where I have odds in winning.

For some, it might be risky but I realize that it depends on the person if he lacks experience or not, but for me who is casually playing gambling, traditional gambling games is better.

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If you are trying to play with just the slots and any games does not require skill you only need is to have a time allotment and luck to win the price

But if you want to play into card games and sports bets you should now take pure skills, knowledge, experience, and luck if you want to win because it's too hard if you can not control the situation all of those are still dependent on them.

Skill games for me are one of the risks to play because you cannot measure the capability of a person.

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Quote from: jostorres on October 10, 2020, 11:11:28 AM

Skill based games are great but only as long as I am assured that the game is being fair to all players and I am not betting against a robot or a script that is made in such a way that I would always lose.
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They also have their drawbacks: for example, if you are an amateur and play chess against a pro who has been playing chess all his life, you don't have a single chance, this way your batch is no different from a robot or a script.
I also play chess, and as far as I know, all players try to play with a very short time per game so that the cheater does not have time to use the computer's hints.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on October 10, 2020, 01:40:14 PM

Those who think that their luck is not very good, they can play skill-based games cause luck is not the main issue here, if you have good skills, you can win by playing.

It's another option to explore while gambling if you think you are not lucky or this is not your lucky day then you can opt to play skill-based games, and if there comes a day that you are off in your skill-based games then you can opt to play slot games and try your luck, I prefer skill-based games but if I'm off I go for luck based game.

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Quote from: Porfirii on October 10, 2020, 04:32:30 PM

I think that "skill games" create some illusion of control in the player when, in fact, luck is much more determinant than skill.

Take for example a card game like Hearthstone: it is clear that the better dock and knowledge you have can be crucial to win, but it is much more of an illusion than a reality.

I haven't researched it on myself, but I have read a few studies, and this is what studies said Cheesy

Can you provide us the link where you have read those studies,

Because I don't think that we can call it as an illusion of control when it comes to skill games. Yes, luck is still belong especially when it comes to card games, but the thing is, if you have a skill, you will know what to do at the very beginning whatever card you will get.

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I think that "skill games" create some illusion of control in the player when, in fact, luck is much more determinant than skill.

Take for example a card game like Hearthstone: it is clear that the better dock and knowledge you have can be crucial to win, but it is much more of an illusion than a reality.

I haven't researched it on myself, but I have read a few studies, and this is what studies said Cheesy

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Quote from: kkaroul4 on October 10, 2020, 02:42:00 PM

I tried your skill game it's pretty interesting you are offering such games but still i would prefer playing sports betting and poker I think there's a high possibility that I could win with this games since I've been in the field for a long time good thing to know that casinos are now having a skill base game

More like myself mate, most of my gambling activities are done with skill games base and not just luck base games. Though, sometimes I do exercise myself with these luck base games because of entertainment and fun in them than the skill games( though, not all time). Currently, I have shifted towards poker games and sporting as various leagues has been opened up recently. Nothing is best achieve when it's base on luck than your ability.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on October 10, 2020, 01:40:14 PM

Skill based games are similar like video games to me, Cheesy

People are gradually leaning on skill-based slots. It is a groundbreaking alternative to traditional slots. Those who think that their luck is not very good, they can play skill-based games cause luck is not the main issue here, if you have good skills, you can win by playing.

Slots are always luck based game, there are different type of slots available but the basic thing need to win on the slots is luck. Poker is the skill based gambling game and blackjack and lot of card based games are here which plays big role skills more than on winning the games.

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I tried your skill game it's pretty interesting you are offering such games but still i would prefer playing sports betting and poker I think there's a high possibility that I could win with this games since I've been in the field for a long time good thing to know that casinos are now having a skill base game

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Skill based games are similar like video games to me, Cheesy

People are gradually leaning on skill-based slots. It is a groundbreaking alternative to traditional slots. Those who think that their luck is not very good, they can play skill-based games cause luck is not the main issue here, if you have good skills, you can win by playing.

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Quote from: jostorres on October 10, 2020, 11:11:28 AM

Skill based games are great but only as long as I am assured that the game is being fair to all players and I am not betting against a robot or a script that is made in such a way that I would always lose.

I often play chess with people online and make small bets with them on the game and people cheat a lot when money is involved so you have to be very careful when playing skill based games because you might have even lower chance of winning than luck based games.

I would actually love games that have an element of luck and skill both involved for example fantasy based sports where we can pick players and earn points on how they perform and the top points player wins.

Betting in an skilled based games may somewhat addicted when it has a money involved. And yes cheating may attract people who are betting especially when the winning prize are high. But even small bets are attempting to cheat since money were involved. Sad to say i didn't even tried betting in any skilled game because i think i am not good at it, i didn't also rely on luck but somehow i am amazed seeing people who are skilled playing games like chess.

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