What does it take for a game to "hook" people - page 16.

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Quote from: dothebeats on July 07, 2021, 07:36:52 AM

Odds are mainly what gets people hooked on games. If they see that it is closer to 100%, even if the odds are still bad, they would still bet on it and think that it's easy to win the game. I'm one of those guys honestly, has been charmed by dice and has been hooked ever since. I just thought that that 49.5% is a pretty decent odds on a gambling game, and that it's too nice of an opportunity to pass on. I'm not a numbers guy so as long as the odds are near 100%, or at least it looks decent to me, I'll probably play it.

Odds are important, but I think there is more than it for a game or a bet to be interesting for us. If the odds are close to 100% then be payout should very small, no one can afford to give away free money. The thing with odds from bookmakers is that they are usually pretty fair and very close to the probabilities. So for us to really want to bet on something, we also need some kind of informtation on the potential outcome. Only if we feel that we know something other people don't know we really become hooked.

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It's because these games have different goals, for online games you always want to be at the top or have the best items in the game by playing it even longer than the majority.

On gambling games it's more about the money or specifically the opportunity to profit even though a lot of people play for fun it's hard to avoid the idea of playing for profit knowing you have a chance of winning something decent while risking small amounts.

The game designs doesn't matter that much tbh as some games can shine even if the graphics is kind of retro or simple.

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Quote from: Kemarit on July 06, 2021, 08:50:51 PM

I guess the simply answer is that people wanted to win, the rewards at the end. They think that they can play and that no matter what the edge it, they still think that it will end up in their favor. And then how they start their addiction, specially if they experience on what we call "beginners luck". They will come back for more, until they started to lose and then play more, and become a cycle.

This is exactly what happened to me yesterday but thankfully is not in the casino rather it is in the online MMORPG where you can re-roll your item qualities for a better one. When I first re-rolled I got lucky and get the quality I wanted but when I came back and re-rolled some items again, that's when things got worse because it keeps failing and I lose all my in-game money while doing that. This thing came up originally from gambling and I didn't have a chance to think twice because it goes well in the first place but ended up really bad in the end.

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Once it comes to casinos and other gambling related games it hooks the player because a stake is done unlike the general video games and social media games. Outside this video games are played strictly for the fun of it but when it comes to casinos emotions sets in alongside greed so most likely players get stucked trying to recover from losses

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Quote from: paxmao on July 06, 2021, 05:45:13 PM

I am asking this because I do have some short of an answer for videogames and for massive multiplayer games and even for social network oriented games. Videogames require a great design, good difficulty grading, an story that engages the user, massive multiplayer and network oriented are a lot about the interactions and how varied and fun these are. However, for casino games, it would seem that these factors are not really the most important ones. You can see games with very basic graphics and design, simple in the options for the player and not that engaging yet they do "hook" people in them.
What do these games have to have for you?

They hook people because they bring more excitement to the people and some of the games offer more challenges or PVP so that people will get urge to play and beat there own records but we cannot compare video games to gambling since for this a casino needs more promotions,marketing and enjoyable gaming environment so that there players will get hook to them since if they offer boring atmosphere then provably there players will became sleepy and find other casino that can challenge them or where they can find their enjoyment.

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Odds are mainly what gets people hooked on games. If they see that it is closer to 100%, even if the odds are still bad, they would still bet on it and think that it's easy to win the game. I'm one of those guys honestly, has been charmed by dice and has been hooked ever since. I just thought that that 49.5% is a pretty decent odds on a gambling game, and that it's too nice of an opportunity to pass on. I'm not a numbers guy so as long as the odds are near 100%, or at least it looks decent to me, I'll probably play it.

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The difference is that you seek good graphics and gameplay in videogames, while in gambling, you seek thrill and money, while you're challenging the house with your gameplay which is basically nothing to do with how you play on videogames. Gambling site games doesn't requires good graphics because what we're after is the result, not the UI and graphics, as long as it could present a good picture on how to play it, it'll do.

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Even a small win in gambling allows the human body to produce the hormone of happiness through which we get positive emotions. That is what makes us go back to where we got it. As I understand the production of this hormone is individual. Someone can eat a candy bar and become happy, and for someone a parachute jump is not enough. So not all of us are susceptible to gambling addiction.

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It's just the potential to make money and the ease of use. There is a reason people don't go for competitive video games as they are hard to be good at. Ya don't have to get good at casino-based games, you just need to know the bases, be lucky and be consistent, that's it. Why people gamble is a question older than the world itself Cheesy

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Quote from: Saint-loup on July 07, 2021, 04:49:50 AM

Quote from: Oasisman on July 07, 2021, 03:49:16 AM

Okay, I don't know if you're a troll or just sour because I merited someone who made a point into a certain discussion that perfectly contradicts yours https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57395629
Social network oriented games and massive multiplayer games, do you know what are those?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social-network_game
Those are similar as mmorpg. We're talking about a massive player taking a role you play to an online games.

I'm sorry If you don't understand what I'm trying to say, that's not my problem anymore.

I don't understand what you're trying to say as well. You become irrelevant to every topic you're in. You're not in the topic as well, so that means you're spamming too?

And you deleted this sentence.

Quote from: Saint-loup on July 07, 2021, 03:14:31 AM

Why are you talking about MMORPG? Where paxmao has mentioned them? I don't understand. Huh

May I ask why?

May I ask you why you still haven't edited or deleted your nonsense post while having edited this one several times? The question is simple : What does it take for a game to "hook" people ? Saying what hooks people in gambling games is to be able to get the result of their bets more quickly than in a MMORPG game doesn't mean anything and is pure garbage, most of gamblers have never played one single time in their life to your MMORPGs and they obviously don't care of them at all. There are certainly several reasons but what it hooks gamblers is IMO mostly the opportunity to win big amounts of money and/or valuable gifts. Then we are "hooked"(but not you obviously) when we get the feeling to have won anything valuable and to be able to win bigger winnings than what we've earned to date.

Hahaha childish.
Ask those who played and placed a bet in Dota2, Mobile Legends, and other MMO games tournament.
I'm 100% sure they haven't played MMORPG in their lives and they're placing bets and so they're "not" gamblers Cheesy

You just don't get my point or you're trying to miss the point.

Okay, I don't want to argue with you anymore. Because you're obviously trolling right now.

Also, there's no rules here of how many times you edit your post.

@OP I apologize for the off-topic, this is my last reply to him. He's on my Ignore list. Cheesy

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Quote from: Obito on July 07, 2021, 05:06:53 AM

If the game can make you feel like you will win the next spin or turn, I think that's enough to for someone to get hooked to a game. Another thing that I think of is probably the engagement of the game to the players, basically the game is sort of addictive.

that was only a feeling and that will dissapear when they try the actual game and found out that their feeling was not real , they will not come back again .
what we need is reality ,
the game can make the players win and they will be excited to comeback because they know they have a chance . this covers being addictive .

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Quote from: Alisha-k on July 07, 2021, 05:07:17 AM

Video games and casinos might share the multiplayer option but has very vasatile features. Coming to video games with story lines that goes inline with every single level and each level has a different graphics to better help the player picture what obstacles are ahead of his present level. But for casinos the graphics tends to remain static for almost all level except for few color changes or background setup.

Both are enjoyable and when we're enjoying, we play again those video games that we've played and that's the same in casinos. Once we started to have the favorite game that we're enjoying, that's how we're going to be able to hook with it. We don't care about graphics or whatsoever other features as long as we're enjoying, we play, we win and we lose. That's it and we're going to play it back again once we've put it in our favorite list.

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Video games and casinos might share the multiplayer option but has very vasatile features. Coming to video games with story lines that goes inline with every single level and each level has a different graphics to better help the player picture what obstacles are ahead of his present level. But for casinos the graphics tends to remain static for almost all level except for few color changes or background setup.

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If the game can make you feel like you will win the next spin or turn, I think that's enough to for someone to get hooked to a game. Another thing that I think of is probably the engagement of the game to the players, basically the game is sort of addictive.

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Interesting question.

I think i could be "hooked" to a very basic game like Dice because of the randomness and difficulty in predicting what side of the Dice is shown as the top when thrown randomly. Trying to understand what factors make a Dice land on a particular side instead of the others. I'm interested in accurately/consistently predicting the right side.
I don't believe it's random.

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Quote from: Oasisman on July 07, 2021, 03:49:16 AM

Okay, I don't know if you're a troll or just sour because I merited someone who made a point into a certain discussion that perfectly contradicts yours https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57395629
Social network oriented games and massive multiplayer games, do you know what are those?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social-network_game
Those are similar as mmorpg. We're talking about a massive player taking a role you play to an online games.

I'm sorry If you don't understand what I'm trying to say, that's not my problem anymore.

I don't understand what you're trying to say as well. You become irrelevant to every topic you're in. You're not in the topic as well, so that means you're spamming too?

And you deleted this sentence.

Quote from: Saint-loup on July 07, 2021, 03:14:31 AM

Why are you talking about MMORPG? Where paxmao has mentioned them? I don't understand. Huh

May I ask why?

May I ask you why you still haven't edited or deleted your nonsense post while having edited this one several times? The question is simple : What does it take for a game to "hook" people ? Saying what hooks people in gambling games is to be able to get the result of their bets more quickly than in a MMORPG game doesn't mean anything and is pure garbage, most of gamblers have never played one single time in their life to your MMORPGs and they obviously don't care of them at all. There are certainly several reasons but what it hooks gamblers is IMO mostly the opportunity to win big amounts of money and/or valuable gifts. Then we are "hooked"(but not you obviously) when we get the feeling to have won anything valuable and to be able to win bigger winnings than what we've earned to date.

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Quote from: paxmao on July 06, 2021, 05:45:13 PM

I am asking this because I do have some short of an answer for videogames and for massive multiplayer games and even for social network oriented games. Videogames require a great design, good difficulty grading, an story that engages the user, massive multiplayer and network oriented are a lot about the interactions and how varied and fun these are. However, for casino games, it would seem that these factors are not really the most important ones. You can see games with very basic graphics and design, simple in the options for the player and not that engaging yet they do "hook" people in them.
What do these games have to have for you?

To get hooked on games there are some factors that are important. First it must be a great game, good story with nice graphics. To make it more attractive custom skins are a option to attract more people that are willing to invest money regularly. For skins to work it needs a secondary market for the players to trade and sell them. If there is a chance to make a profit then more people will put money in it because there is a exit strategy.

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Quote from: paxmao on July 06, 2021, 05:45:13 PM

I am asking this because I do have some short of an answer for videogames and for massive multiplayer games and even for social network oriented games. Videogames require a great design, good difficulty grading, an story that engages the user, massive multiplayer and network oriented are a lot about the interactions and how varied and fun these are. However, for casino games, it would seem that these factors are not really the most important ones. You can see games with very basic graphics and design, simple in the options for the player and not that engaging yet they do "hook" people in them.
What do these games have to have for you?

In gambling, the general atmosphere and interface are very important for me.

Gambling is primarily a game.

I want to feel like a space tramp and adventurer Jason Di Alt (the hero of Harry Harrison's novel "Indomitable Planet") or James Bond from the movie "Casino Royale" or D'Artagnan (the hero of Alexander Dumas's novel "The Three Musketeers").

It's just so boring to play.

I would like to feel like the savior of the whole planet, a super agent, or at least an eternally drunk nobleman from the detachment of the guards of His Majesty King Louis XIII.

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Quote from: paxmao on July 06, 2021, 05:45:13 PM

You can see games with very basic graphics and design, simple in the options for the player and not that engaging yet they do "hook" people in them.
What do these games have to have for you?

But the promise of winning is really huge in Online casino's and also there are many strategies that casino uses for people to get hooked, there are some chance that newbie makes a big amount of wins that will make you think of coming back and wanting to make that same win or much even higher , and these are the factors why people got hooked even if those are obvious traps.

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Games in video games and casinos are different.
The difference is that games in video games do not need money to play, but they can buy accessories or stuff more powerful than the other player.
Games in the casino design to attract a gambler to come on their place and spend their money to win money.
Maybe the casino can redesign the graphics and the interface on their website or inside the games to have a different experience.

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