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Quote from: Saint-loup on July 07, 2021, 03:14:31 AM

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Quote from: paxmao on July 06, 2021, 05:45:13 PM

I am asking this because I do have some short of an answer for videogames and for massive multiplayer games and even for social network oriented games. Videogames require a great design, good difficulty grading, an story that engages the user, massive multiplayer and network oriented are a lot about the interactions and how varied and fun these are. However, for casino games, it would seem that these factors are not really the most important ones. You can see games with very basic graphics and design, simple in the options for the player and not that engaging yet they do "hook" people in them.
What do these games have to have for you?

MMORPG (Massive multiplayer online role playing games) and Online casino games are totally different.
People "hook" up with mmorpg because they like adventure, thrill, level competition, PVP, and a possible profit during bet games all at the same time.
While casino games focuses only on money and bets that mostly based on luck. What makes casino games intresting is the fast result of your bets (usually takes a minute), compared to mmorpg games that takes hours before the winner is identified.

Why are you talking about MMORPG? Where paxmao has mentioned them? I don't understand. Huh

According to you people are hooked by gambling games because they get the "result of their bets" before MMORPG? Huh

What you are saying doesn't mean anything. It's a pure shitpost and you're spamming. I better understand why you've send a merit to an aggressive post advocating spammers in the thread of RaptarX. Undecided

Okay, I don't know if you're a troll or just sour because I merited someone who made a point into a certain discussion that perfectly contradicts yours https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.57395629
Social network oriented games and massive multiplayer games, do you know what are those?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social-network_game
Those are similar as mmorpg. We're talking about a massive player taking a role you play to an online games.

I'm sorry If you don't understand what I'm trying to say, that's not my problem anymore.

I don't understand what you're trying to say as well. You become irrelevant to every topic you're in. You're not in the topic as well, so that means you're spamming too?

And you deleted this sentence.

Quote from: Saint-loup on July 07, 2021, 03:14:31 AM

Why are you talking about MMORPG? Where paxmao has mentioned them? I don't understand. Huh

May I ask why?

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Quote from: paxmao on July 06, 2021, 05:45:13 PM

I am asking this because I do have some short of an answer for videogames and for massive multiplayer games and even for social network oriented games. Videogames require a great design, good difficulty grading, an story that engages the user, massive multiplayer and network oriented are a lot about the interactions and how varied and fun these are. However, for casino games, it would seem that these factors are not really the most important ones. You can see games with very basic graphics and design, simple in the options for the player and not that engaging yet they do "hook" people in them.
What do these games have to have for you?

I like MMORPG and Hack&Slash games mostly. Item hunting kept me playing for hours. The feeling when you get a rare overpowered item which the other people don't have is awesome. You know it is like unlocking the god mode. It doesn't feel awesome when everybody has it but when only the 1% has that and the other 99% don't, it even feels more awesome. Cool

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I thought animation was important for gambling websites, but now I realize that it's not. I've seen websites with great animation of dice, crash, and slots, but they failed to attract users. At the same time, if a website itself doesn't look professionally, and the games look like they're from early 2000s, people won't be interested. So a simple, but neat design is a must. If we talk about the genres, people like short games, so that you can know the outcome pretty fast and not invest much time into it. I've also noticed that cooperative games don't do well, as people tend to play alone and want to either play against the website (as in dice) or against other people (poker). What makes a game successful is that it's fast, and yet there's still a moment when you anticipate the result instead of learning it right away. It should also be very simple, so that one doesn't have to spend time learning how to use the controllers and how to play.

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Quote from: Oasisman on July 07, 2021, 02:30:51 AM

Quote from: paxmao on July 06, 2021, 05:45:13 PM

I am asking this because I do have some short of an answer for videogames and for massive multiplayer games and even for social network oriented games. Videogames require a great design, good difficulty grading, an story that engages the user, massive multiplayer and network oriented are a lot about the interactions and how varied and fun these are. However, for casino games, it would seem that these factors are not really the most important ones. You can see games with very basic graphics and design, simple in the options for the player and not that engaging yet they do "hook" people in them.
What do these games have to have for you?

MMORPG (Massive multiplayer online role playing games) and Online casino games are totally different.
People "hook" up with mmorpg because they like adventure, thrill, level competition, PVP, and a possible profit during bet games all at the same time.
While casino games focuses only on money and bets that mostly based on luck. What makes casino games intresting is the fast result of your bets (usually takes a minute), compared to mmorpg games that takes hours before the winner is identified.

Why are you talking about MMORPG? Where paxmao has mentioned them? I don't understand. Huh

According to you people are hooked by gambling games because they get the "result of their bets" before MMORPG? Huh

What you are saying doesn't mean anything. It's a pure shitpost and you're spamming. I better understand why you've send a merit to an aggressive post advocating spammers in the thread of RaptarX. Undecided

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Money.

That very factor allows you to earn and lose money and that makes it hook able to the players that are playing those casino games. Slots, roulettes, sports betting and other types of betting, those are really hooking everyone because once you experience winning and earning.

You'll always think that you can win easy money.

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Quote from: paxmao on July 06, 2021, 05:45:13 PM

I am asking this because I do have some short of an answer for videogames and for massive multiplayer games and even for social network oriented games. Videogames require a great design, good difficulty grading, an story that engages the user, massive multiplayer and network oriented are a lot about the interactions and how varied and fun these are. However, for casino games, it would seem that these factors are not really the most important ones. You can see games with very basic graphics and design, simple in the options for the player and not that engaging yet they do "hook" people in them.
What do these games have to have for you?

MMORPG (Massive multiplayer online role playing games) and Online casino games are totally different.
People "hook" up with mmorpg because they like adventure, thrill, level competition, PVP, and a possible profit during bet games all at the same time.
While casino games focuses only on money and bets that mostly based on luck. What makes casino games intresting is the fast result of your bets (usually takes a minute), compared to mmorpg games that takes hours before the winner is identified.

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For me to be hooked to a game is that the game has to allow me to win every time otherwise I'm not going to come back again. The games in casinos are almost the same, once you see it from the other casino then they all have the same games. None of them ever develop a game like Temple Run which you could earn once you beat a high score. If I see such a game I may actually keep coming back and practice more of this game too.

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There are some very successful games that offered in-game incentives. These games managed to stay alive because players who enjoyed them also enjoyed the rewards they got. With time, gaming has become a very competitive industry, with games releasing at a faster pace. Because of this, developers and game developers are constantly creating new features to please players.

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Quote from: paxmao on July 06, 2021, 05:45:13 PM

I am asking this because I do have some short of an answer for videogames and for massive multiplayer games and even for social network oriented games. Videogames require a great design, good difficulty grading, an story that engages the user, massive multiplayer and network oriented are a lot about the interactions and how varied and fun these are. However, for casino games, it would seem that these factors are not really the most important ones. You can see games with very basic graphics and design, simple in the options for the player and not that engaging yet they do "hook" people in them.
What do these games have to have for you?

I think one of the more important thing in a casino game to hook gamblers is to make them feel they've win a huge thing even if it don't cover their stake, for example in slot games you can get huge fireworks while just having win one free spin or half of your stake.
As nittrobetting said above prize scheme is also important, the user must get the feeling to progress toward bigger prizes and jackpots and not just wasting his time and his money.
For live casino games, it's different, I think the most important thing there is to have handsome female croupiers. Grin

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Well, in regards to gambling or casinos I guess it's all goes to the bonuses and the referral percentage an individual can get. For casino games I guess it depends on the uniqueness of the game and on my personal view I guess it depends on the UI and UX factor too, just my personal opinion.

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Quote from: paxmao on July 06, 2021, 05:45:13 PM

What do these games have to have for you?

There are hundreds of games that can be found and can be accessed and played via laptops, smartphones and so on, ranging from low-level and high-level games, there are many things that can be owned and obtained in the life of playing games, at least the lessons and experiences have been had while in the game.

For example:
• skills, solidarity and cooperation are owned by every game player.
• those who are involved in playing games, must have experienced defeat, of course that is not a reason for frustration but is made into a lesson and a better experience in the future.
• The freedom to play is also owned by every game.
• the game someone is controlling not the other way around.
• friendship, insight, fun can be obtained from the game.
• the last one does not have to worry if it fails or money, if someone experiences this they can try again and again the next day, without having to deposit.

Of all that is owned by a gamer, of course not owned by a casino, quite the contrary, the casino must have real money and if you lose the casino game the opposite of what the game player has.

Conclusion: what you are saying is exactly, that factor is not 'important' in casino, on the contrary, if one loses in casino bet.

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Quote from: paxmao on July 06, 2021, 05:45:13 PM

However, for casino games, it would seem that these factors are not really the most important ones. You can see games with very basic graphics and design, simple in the options for the player and not that engaging yet they do "hook" people in them.
What do these games have to have for you?

because the act of gambling itself is the one that makes people hooked into it and not its graphics, design, or how engaging the gambling game is, etc... I for one love the feeling of satisfaction I get whenever I win something whether it might be in gambling or not. winning in gambling(especially if it includes a large sum of money) can make people feel good. those things are what make people hooked on gambling.

there have been a lot of studies on why people get hooked on gambling. I suggest reading the article below. it gives you the Idea of what gambling does to people's brains when they do gamble.

https://www.highspeedtraining.co.uk/hub/why-is-gambling-addictive/

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Are you talking about casino games or games in general? Cause in games, in general, is very broad, there are story immersive ones (most heavy games one are these types) and then there are puzzle repetitive types (like Plant vs Zombies) and casino games should fall towards the latter. Ofc, it isn't like there are only these two types, there's still a broader lot of genres out there. Casino games are engaging since even if they were repetitive, they bring a freshness of sorts? That makes it addicting. Not to mention that it includes money (fr, the latter takes up most of the reason tbh).

Though if you consider table card games such as poker, now those are quite fun and addicting since you play against other players and what you get isn't always the same. It feels like it's a new type every time you play it or something? Simple but has depth kind of thing.

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I guess casino games and rpg games have their different factprs for hooking people. I've played several RPG games and it seems that unique game mechanics, design, grinding and luck maoes people being hooked to it. Most people spend their time playing games where they can loot rare items while grinding. Games with ranking makes it competitive, all gamers are competitive only few play for fun. They want to be on top and they want to own items as exclusive and rare as it could be.

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I guess the simply answer is that people wanted to win, the rewards at the end. They think that they can play and that no matter what the edge it, they still think that it will end up in their favor. And then how they start their addiction, specially if they experience on what we call "beginners luck". They will come back for more, until they started to lose and then play more, and become a cycle.

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It seems a very easy question but actually kinda hard to answer to be honest. Perhaps a couple of factors; (1) that there is money involved and that (2) one is seemingly hunting for luck. They give all the thrill and excitement. Remove money and the sense of luck-hunting and many casino games are actually very boring games. But, of course, I am talking here of the kinds of casino games which are purely luck-based, say dice, crash game, roulette, and so on.

Perhaps it also counts that you could actually devise different strategies to try breaking that house edge even if you are aware yourself that it is futile in the end. Sometimes, the feeling when your money lasts longer than before is good enough.

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I think video games and casino games are vastly different in approach in the sense that online gambling games provide the thrill and illusion of winning money versus the experience of being in an immersive gaming environment that video games in general provide. Casino games nowadays, particularly slot games have been developed to higher degree when it comes to graphics and gameplay quality, however a casino game's prize scheme to its players is still what draws players to play online gambling games in my opinion.

To me, the key to diversity of modern casino games is whether if they can capitalize on the social aspect and how players nowadays spend time online playing to interact and have connection with other players in the internet leaning towards building a community while playing games. It's very interesting.

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I am asking this because I do have some short of an answer for videogames and for massive multiplayer games and even for social network oriented games. Videogames require a great design, good difficulty grading, an story that engages the user, massive multiplayer and network oriented are a lot about the interactions and how varied and fun these are. However, for casino games, it would seem that these factors are not really the most important ones. You can see games with very basic graphics and design, simple in the options for the player and not that engaging yet they do "hook" people in them.
What do these games have to have for you?

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