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Quote from: goaldigger on August 13, 2021, 02:59:12 PM

Losing in gambling affects much of our emotion compare to winnings and that is normal. Casinos will always win and we can’t change that thing, their business is to keep on winning. A game can attract players thru their platform, many are attracted to graphics and many are attracted to play to earn set-up which is the best scenario now with the nft games.

People are hooked with nft games today because of the feature of earning. And that's just the same in gambling, many are hooked because they've made money from it.
That cannot be removed from those people that have experienced earning from it because they're happy doing so and that's the same as the example you've mentioned.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on August 10, 2021, 09:17:07 PM

Lol,so we know casinos will always win and yet we still play to catch fun, but when we loose why does it affect us emotionally when we had in mind that casinos always win? It's addictive to be honest and it takes the mind of the strong ones to stop playing casinos games. I tried so many times on stake platform and I noticed it's a game of luck, no strategy puts you through.

The Casino always have a n hedge of gamblers with high probability of them having the fattest share. Luck is need to win games on Casino platforms especially when a player does not take high risk in betting. When playing such games the Casinos always have 70% of winning when gamblers have 30% of winning especially for the lucky one. Whenever I'm playing I always try my best to take less risks cause I could calculate my tendency of winning.

Casinos do make gambling systems profitable for their owners, then there are many ways that casinos do for gamblers to last longer in gambling.
I, as a gambler, have realized from the start that the chances of beating the casino are very unlikely, so I have to limit myself when playing gambling,
so as not to overdo it and become addicted. With a higher percentage of casino wins than gamblers, we must be careful when playing gambling.
We must remember that playing gambling should only be for entertainment, so when we experience defeat in gambling, there is no need to chase
our defeat.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on August 10, 2021, 09:17:07 PM

Lol,so we know casinos will always win and yet we still play to catch fun, but when we loose why does it affect us emotionally when we had in mind that casinos always win? It's addictive to be honest and it takes the mind of the strong ones to stop playing casinos games. I tried so many times on stake platform and I noticed it's a game of luck, no strategy puts you through.

The reason for this is that it is very different to understand something at an intellectual level than to understand something at an emotional level, anyone that has taken the time to read a little bit about gambling knows that over the long term the casino will win, we think we can accept the outcome and still gamble and have fun, but it is really difficult for you and your emotions to understand that losing that money is not a big deal, that is why you have those feelings of regret if you happen to lose, especially if the amount was significant.

It is because once you have done gambling, it will all come back on how much you have spend for gambling alone. Unless, you have a full control of your urge to gamble or having a very limited budget for gambling only. I was once before where I lose money and it made me think that if I didn't gambled my money I would still have my money right without worrying of losing it but it was physical but not a casinos and we just bet on everything we can bet. A site having a low minimum deposit, withdrawal fee, minimum withdrawal amount, use fiat currency to show the total amount of crypto you have in fiat will hook combined with the game that can also hook people.

There are indeed a couple of psychological tricks these casinos can use to get you hooked like you said. Low withdrawal fees does get you hooked even though the end result might be the same as if you were to pay higher withdrawal fees elsewhere. Sure it has an impact on the expected value, but someone who goes about gambling strict mathematically might also rather play a game where there is more influence over the game on the player's part.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on August 10, 2021, 09:17:07 PM

Lol,so we know casinos will always win and yet we still play to catch fun, but when we loose why does it affect us emotionally when we had in mind that casinos always win? It's addictive to be honest and it takes the mind of the strong ones to stop playing casinos games. I tried so many times on stake platform and I noticed it's a game of luck, no strategy puts you through.

The Casino always have a n hedge of gamblers with high probability of them having the fattest share. Luck is need to win games on Casino platforms especially when a player does not take high risk in betting. When playing such games the Casinos always have 70% of winning when gamblers have 30% of winning especially for the lucky one. Whenever I'm playing I always try my best to take less risks cause I could calculate my tendency of winning.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on August 10, 2021, 09:17:07 PM

Lol,so we know casinos will always win and yet we still play to catch fun, but when we loose why does it affect us emotionally when we had in mind that casinos always win? It's addictive to be honest and it takes the mind of the strong ones to stop playing casinos games. I tried so many times on stake platform and I noticed it's a game of luck, no strategy puts you through.

The reason for this is that it is very different to understand something at an intellectual level than to understand something at an emotional level, anyone that has taken the time to read a little bit about gambling knows that over the long term the casino will win, we think we can accept the outcome and still gamble and have fun, but it is really difficult for you and your emotions to understand that losing that money is not a big deal, that is why you have those feelings of regret if you happen to lose, especially if the amount was significant.

It is because once you have done gambling, it will all come back on how much you have spend for gambling alone. Unless, you have a full control of your urge to gamble or having a very limited budget for gambling only. I was once before where I lose money and it made me think that if I didn't gambled my money I would still have my money right without worrying of losing it but it was physical but not a casinos and we just bet on everything we can bet. A site having a low minimum deposit, withdrawal fee, minimum withdrawal amount, use fiat currency to show the total amount of crypto you have in fiat will hook combined with the game that can also hook people.

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Quote from: paxmao on July 06, 2021, 06:45:13 PM

I am asking this because I do have some short of an answer for videogames and for massive multiplayer games and even for social network oriented games. Videogames require a great design, good difficulty grading, an story that engages the user, massive multiplayer and network oriented are a lot about the interactions and how varied and fun these are. However, for casino games, it would seem that these factors are not really the most important ones. You can see games with very basic graphics and design, simple in the options for the player and not that engaging yet they do "hook" people in them.
What do these games have to have for you?

There are simply too many variables to try and pin it down to a few that will hook players. Some people might be chasing a thrill that they got from their first win on the slots, others might be trying to recreate the memory they had in a bingo hall when they were younger, yet more may be fooled by the illusion of control that automated video poker gives them or thinking that they are able to predict the winner from virtually generated horse races - like the statistics made up to replicate live sports have any meaning beyond random generation. Most casinos are actually fairly basic when it comes to graphic design in comparison to the dynamic 3d worlds required to keep people hooked in entertaining video games.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on August 10, 2021, 09:17:07 PM

Lol,so we know casinos will always win and yet we still play to catch fun, but when we loose why does it affect us emotionally when we had in mind that casinos always win? It's addictive to be honest and it takes the mind of the strong ones to stop playing casinos games. I tried so many times on stake platform and I noticed it's a game of luck, no strategy puts you through.

The reason for this is that it is very different to understand something at an intellectual level than to understand something at an emotional level, anyone that has taken the time to read a little bit about gambling knows that over the long term the casino will win, we think we can accept the outcome and still gamble and have fun, but it is really difficult for you and your emotions to understand that losing that money is not a big deal, that is why you have those feelings of regret if you happen to lose, especially if the amount was significant.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on August 10, 2021, 09:17:07 PM

Lol,so we know casinos will always win and yet we still play to catch fun, but when we loose why does it affect us emotionally when we had in mind that casinos always win? It's addictive to be honest and it takes the mind of the strong ones to stop playing casinos games. I tried so many times on stake platform and I noticed it's a game of luck, no strategy puts you through.

Losing in gambling affects much of our emotion compare to winnings and that is normal. Casinos will always win and we can’t change that thing, their business is to keep on winning. A game can attract players thru their platform, many are attracted to graphics and many are attracted to play to earn set-up which is the best scenario now with the nft games.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on August 10, 2021, 09:17:07 PM

Lol,so we know casinos will always win and yet we still play to catch fun, but when we loose why does it affect us emotionally when we had in mind that casinos always win?

Very natural human behavior I guess Roll Eyes

but seriously before we start playing we already have that mindset that casino do always win.

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It's addictive to be honest and it takes the mind of the strong ones to stop playing casinos games.

Strong will indeed! without that, it's too difficult to escape when you already attached yourself to this business.

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I tried so many times on stake platform and I noticed it's a game of luck, no strategy puts you through.

No strategy aside from bankroll management, that's matter for sure.

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The catchiness of the game revolves around the overall atmosphere the developers advertises it to be. For example, No Man's Sky was booming in release because it was advertised to be a game that will push the limits of ever engine it was in, but quickly fell into oblivion when people came to realize that apart from fairly good graphics, nothing of what the promised features were actually delivered. The same can be said for gambling games, doesn't matter if you have the best or worst features, long as the general public doesn't feel like they are being cheated playing your game, you are good to go.

Quote from: Lordhermes on August 10, 2021, 09:17:07 PM

Lol,so we know casinos will always win and yet we still play to catch fun, but when we loose why does it affect us emotionally when we had in mind that casinos always win? It's addictive to be honest and it takes the mind of the strong ones to stop playing casinos games. I tried so many times on stake platform and I noticed it's a game of luck, no strategy puts you through.

Gambler's fallacy basically. The human brain tends to obsess over control and would overestimate the amount of control it has over situations that are very probabilistic in nature. That's why people still play sweepstakes even though you have a higher chance of getting struck by lightning than winning the jackpot.

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Quote from: KTChampions on August 08, 2021, 05:30:59 AM

Why do you think video poker is dying?
If you mean poker in slot machines, then it hardly ever had a large share in games in general, but now their number is increasing and it is losing its share only because of this.
If you mean online poker with real people, then despite the fact that the hype went through it has a huge constant gaming audience. The only problem I know with this kind of poker is the software that collects statistics on the players, which allows professional players to have an edge.

Actually @Kyraishi is right regarding the fact that video poker is dying. This game can't compete with modern sophisticated slots, and it's hard to imagine how you can improve this particular game to make it attractive amidst those newly developed slots.

And of course(or should I say "I hope") he didn't mean poker with real people, because there is a clear definition for what video poker is, and it's very close to a slot game and very far from real poker.

Well, if we are talking about poker in the form of playing on a slot machine, then I do not see any problem in this. This is a wretched game I hardly believe that it will be missed even if it completely disappears. I remember how I played such a game (about 20 years ago lol), the essence of the game was that the machine randomly gave you cards and you could either take the win (if you had any combination and profit was minimal) or try to double it (several times in a row). "Funny" gameplay.

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Quote from: Kyraishi on August 06, 2021, 04:46:41 PM

I actually think that simplicity is one of the key criteria when it comes to getting people hooked.

In general, people have pretty short attention spans, and they don't really like to have to learn a game inside out before being able to play it. That's why you see stuff like video poker dying out - because that actually requires skill and people just can't be screwed to have to learn the optimal strategy.

That's why simple games like dice, even though they are quite "boring" in the graphics sense, have made it big in the crypto world.

I think you have a point there, taking into account that the most popular games in cryptocurrency casinos are games like dice, roulette and slot machines, and those are games that are extremely simple on their nature then it makes sense that a game that is simple and that is easy to learn will be more popular than a game that is more complex, obviously not everyone is going to be attracted to that simplicity but without a doubt it plays a factor.

That is really a question of preference. Some might prefer simple and easy to learn games, and some might prefer games during which you can develop a strategy and adjust according to specific circumstances. I think Poker is the perfect example here. Many believe it is easy to learn, which is true if you just gamble a bit here and there and want to understand what the two cards mean in conjunction with the board. But actually Poker is hard to learn if you take into account all the strategic considerations that are possible in different scenarios.

Without a doubt each gambler is going to have their own preferences about the things that they like, and in fact I like games in which you need to think a lot, so games like poker are perfect for someone like myself, however if you take the time to see how much space is allocated at regular casinos for each kind of game you are going to see that the games that are the most simple to understand and to play are by far the most popular, so it seems that is an important factor when it comes to hooking people up.

Yes, that is not really a surprising observation. I have been a couple of times to Las Vegas and as you said, the slot machines are crowded all the time. Roulette also. It is just not for me I must admit. There is no challenge, there aren't really mistakes I could be angry about at myself. In Poker you can analyze and conclude, then strategize and practice, that's the fun part about it. But everyone should feel free to play whatever suits him or her best. Fine with me.

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Quote from: Kyraishi on August 06, 2021, 04:46:41 PM

I actually think that simplicity is one of the key criteria when it comes to getting people hooked.

In general, people have pretty short attention spans, and they don't really like to have to learn a game inside out before being able to play it. That's why you see stuff like video poker dying out - because that actually requires skill and people just can't be screwed to have to learn the optimal strategy.

That's why simple games like dice, even though they are quite "boring" in the graphics sense, have made it big in the crypto world.

Why do you think video poker is dying?
If you mean poker in slot machines, then it hardly ever had a large share in games in general, but now their number is increasing and it is losing its share only because of this.
If you mean online poker with real people, then despite the fact that the hype went through it has a huge constant gaming audience. The only problem I know with this kind of poker is the software that collects statistics on the players, which allows professional players to have an edge.

Actually @Kyraishi is right regarding the fact that video poker is dying. This game can't compete with modern sophisticated slots, and it's hard to imagine how you can improve this particular game to make it attractive amidst those newly developed slots.

And of course(or should I say "I hope") he didn't mean poker with real people, because there is a clear definition for what video poker is, and it's very close to a slot game and very far from real poker.

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Lol,so we know casinos will always win and yet we still play to catch fun, but when we loose why does it affect us emotionally when we had in mind that casinos always win? It's addictive to be honest and it takes the mind of the strong ones to stop playing casinos games. I tried so many times on stake platform and I noticed it's a game of luck, no strategy puts you through.

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Quote from: BuNga_cute on August 09, 2021, 03:59:23 PM

I feel bored by spending a lot of time at home, and I admit online gambling is one solution to kill this boredom. Online casino owners know this,
so there is no doubt for gambling site owners to carry out promotions that require large costs. It is true that some gambling sites are not only
promos on this forum, some gambling sites are even promoted on many other websites. So it's not surprising that some online casino owners
have increased their income in a pandemic situation, because serious promotions will bring in many gamblers. I think the gambling industry is
becoming profitable now, because it can make a lot of money, the key can make many gamblers come and gamble comfortably.

You are right in that sense, the pandemic has caused many people to turn to online jobs, and casinos are an option both for fun, making money and as an anti-stress. For many the situation changes, because some will get the casinos as the best option to have fun, but others are going through very difficult situations and when they seek to profit only from casinos is where addiction comes into action and if there is no self-control things can worsen.

It must be recognized that casinos enter into direct interaction with emotions and it is thanks to people's emotions that casinos will always win, because many people at the time of playing forget the value of money and only concentrate on winning.

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Quote from: Kyraishi on August 06, 2021, 04:46:41 PM

I actually think that simplicity is one of the key criteria when it comes to getting people hooked.

In general, people have pretty short attention spans, and they don't really like to have to learn a game inside out before being able to play it. That's why you see stuff like video poker dying out - because that actually requires skill and people just can't be screwed to have to learn the optimal strategy.

That's why simple games like dice, even though they are quite "boring" in the graphics sense, have made it big in the crypto world.

I think you have a point there, taking into account that the most popular games in cryptocurrency casinos are games like dice, roulette and slot machines, and those are games that are extremely simple on their nature then it makes sense that a game that is simple and that is easy to learn will be more popular than a game that is more complex, obviously not everyone is going to be attracted to that simplicity but without a doubt it plays a factor.

That is really a question of preference. Some might prefer simple and easy to learn games, and some might prefer games during which you can develop a strategy and adjust according to specific circumstances. I think Poker is the perfect example here. Many believe it is easy to learn, which is true if you just gamble a bit here and there and want to understand what the two cards mean in conjunction with the board. But actually Poker is hard to learn if you take into account all the strategic considerations that are possible in different scenarios.

Without a doubt each gambler is going to have their own preferences about the things that they like, and in fact I like games in which you need to think a lot, so games like poker are perfect for someone like myself, however if you take the time to see how much space is allocated at regular casinos for each kind of game you are going to see that the games that are the most simple to understand and to play are by far the most popular, so it seems that is an important factor when it comes to hooking people up.

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Even if the casino owner uses a lot of money on promotion costs, that is still worth it to do as that will work to attract many gamblers to playing gambling on their site, especially if they can do the right promotion. Whether that promotion can attract the whales to join with them or it will need more time to get their attention, the casino will not think much about that because once they can get many new gamblers playing gambling, the whales can get inside on that. Still, they will not reveal themselves before the whales feel confident playing gambling on that site.

The gamblers search for the comfortable thing in the casino and the casino did really know about that and trying to give the best services to all of their members. Sooner or later, the casino will start to profit from that gamblers, and if somehow, the gamblers use a lot of money, the casino will take care of them and give them more services because they are the assets for the casino.

Not surprisingly, in this forum, many gambling companies dare to spend quite a large promotional budget by holding a signature campaign. Because
they believe that by promoting on this forum, they can bring many gamblers to their site. And online gambling site owners also expect promotions
in the current pandemic situation, is a good opportunity to bring more visitors to their site. Because some physical casinos are still closed and
internet visitors are much more nowadays. But it must also be accompanied by good service and make it easier for gamblers to register on gambling
sites. Because many gamblers will feel comfortable if they receive the best service and easy registration, if it is comfortable, the gambler will not
hesitate to make a large deposit. If that's the case, the promotion costs can be paid off.

I am sure the online gambling sites will give good services and do not use strict rules to people who want to play gambling because they know that at this pandemic, when many people stay at home but they want to continue playing gambling, the online casino can be a choice for them. If the online gambling sites can attract as many gamblers that they can, they will make a profit and it can make them be popular online gambling sites among the other sites. They also know that promoting their sites here can help them get more members but they also promote in the other forum websites. The gambling owners know that the promotion costs will not be a problem, so they decide to promote their site on many websites.

I feel bored by spending a lot of time at home, and I admit online gambling is one solution to kill this boredom. Online casino owners know this,
so there is no doubt for gambling site owners to carry out promotions that require large costs. It is true that some gambling sites are not only
promos on this forum, some gambling sites are even promoted on many other websites. So it's not surprising that some online casino owners
have increased their income in a pandemic situation, because serious promotions will bring in many gamblers. I think the gambling industry is
becoming profitable now, because it can make a lot of money, the key can make many gamblers come and gamble comfortably.

If you feel bored at home and want to kill your free time, you need to think about other things instead of playing online gambling because you already knew that playing gambling too long can lead you to become addicted. And if you do not have control over that, I am afraid that you will spend your free time always playing gambling, which can make you become a heavy addicted person to gambling. Yes, the casino knows how to seduce the gamblers to playing gambling on their places and yes, they promoted their site on many websites. This pandemic gives them to profit as many gamblers can not go to the offline casino and move to online gambling. Online gambling will grow from this year and will get many gamblers comes to their site.

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Quote from: xSkylarx on August 10, 2021, 03:24:14 AM

It's mostly about the game. You are correct that they will fall into the game on their own. It should be one-of-a-kind and enjoyable. Most people or gamblers nowadays are not only interested in the price but also in the fun because most games have a prize but if you get excited, you'll be hooked on the game. As for me, if I became addicted to a game, it should have a high prize, a fast pace, and make you nervous. Those carnival games are examples of how children became addicted.

I think what most people like are the high percentage of winning where they might get back what they've lost in a high percentage way where you can find this kind of thing in the gambling games. I think this kind of platform only exists in crypto trading and some NFT games but when it comes to gambling the highest percentage you can get is 50/50 if you want to even your winning rewards. But if you unto the high risk, the chances are quite low. When it comes to how good the games are, only a few people cared for that cause they only want the profit, not the fancy things where they can get it from something else without spending their money.

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I suppose that those bonuses are in fact good for the casino otherwise they will not give them, it is true that there are people that could try to abuse those bonuses especially in this market in which people do not want to identify themselves as they want to gamble in an anonymous way, but it is unlikely this is going to be a problem because many of those websites are going to use cookies and other technologies to keep track of who has used their services and if they see any suspicious activity then they are going to ban your account.

There will always be those who will try to take advantage of the system. Especially when it comes to free money. I'm sure casinos are well prepared for such situations and have well-developed methods of detecting abusers. It is very unlikely that cheaters will escape detection thanks to cookie tracking, IP logging, browser fingerprinting, and who knows what else.

The free trial or bonus given to beginners to play, are the other ones hooks people. Whom so ever it would be, would make a try for the first play unless and until he has heard of the websites faking or he is an experienced. So the new registered player is always given a chance to win on their first swing which in turn pulls them in mentally to try with case on the second swing or when the free amount gets over. Here one just has to decide if to move further or not after their free trial is over.

The bonuses that the casino gives are without a doubt one of the main attractions for many gamblers, however that only attracts the gambler to that specific casino but it doesn't tell us anything about why the person decided to gamble on the first place and why it keeps doing it, personally I think there are many reasons for this to happen, some people just like the excitement, some people want to get fun, some just want to make money while others are just curious about it and want to try it.

The atmosphere around would really makes the one exited. The welcoming behavior of other play with us, would certainly encourage us to mingle with and continue the relationship by playing with them on a regular basis. Few dont mind about cash but just a fun and lovely environment. The ambiances where we play, makes one feel fall into play the games. Like wise, we have so many reasons to get hooked up so. It varies from each individual.

It's mostly about the game. You are correct that they will fall into the game on their own. It should be one-of-a-kind and enjoyable. Most people or gamblers nowadays are not only interested in the price but also in the fun because most games have a prize but if you get excited, you'll be hooked on the game. As for me, if I became addicted to a game, it should have a high prize, a fast pace, and make you nervous. Those carnival games are examples of how children became addicted.

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Quote from: BuNga_cute on August 09, 2021, 03:59:23 PM

I feel bored by spending a lot of time at home, and I admit online gambling is one solution to kill this boredom. Online casino owners know this,
so there is no doubt for gambling site owners to carry out promotions that require large costs. It is true that some gambling sites are not only
promos on this forum, some gambling sites are even promoted on many other websites. So it's not surprising that some online casino owners
have increased their income in a pandemic situation, because serious promotions will bring in many gamblers. I think the gambling industry is
becoming profitable now, because it can make a lot of money, the key can make many gamblers come and gamble comfortably.

With those alluring promotions coming from all sides of the internet, people who are bored inside their house will start to have some interest with gambling, from that point if they feel that comfort expect them to keep coming back.

It's indeed that casinos make lots of money during this pandemic, it's very likely that people will be attached to this activities since it kills some time.

Very timely for casino house to bring more good promotions and make it very attracting when doing some adds.

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