Topic: What if the internet permanently shuts down - page 4. (Read 743 times)
The Internet can't suddenly break, it's very resilient. But if it will be gone, it would be because there's a much larger problem - a global thermonuclear war, a huge solar flare, total collapse of human civilization, etc. With those events money will no longer matter much, only your survival skills will. So if you are worried about such things, than try to get ready for them.
What can you imagine without the Internet? If the Internet permanently stops, then where will you use your Bitcoin, which is only virtual? Even though you can access your Bitcoin through some other technologies, you still need the Internet to use it in a real-world case. Everything will collapse if the Internet collapses permanently. So this isn't a real concern for Bitcoin anyway.
then what will happen is that this world will fall apart because it is not only Bitcoin or exchange groups that use the internet to optimize performance but there are many fields that currently use the internet. So it looks like this will not happen or if it does only happen in a short period of time. Because after all, the internet provider will of course carry out maintenance on anything that is not desired. or in any way to restore the internet. And as long as we still store our data properly, when the internet recovers, we can access our wallet or the platform we use again. I also agree with several members here. If this is something you don't need to worry about too much. because if there was no internet anymore, it could be said that we would be going back to the past.
Although internet permanently shutting down is impossible unless it is the end of the world, I will play along with your scenario @OP. If the internet shut down, it simply means the end of e-commerce, communication will greatly affected, and many company will get bankrupt and shutdown. We will goes back to snail mail system, and all online activities will come to halt. That includes the cryptocurrency industry.
The positive effect of internet permanently shutting down is the need for more postman. So while many online dependent company are mass laying employee, the post office and other delivery services will be hiring more personnel.
Communication will not be lost, it will suffer a backslash, it can move backward and can still use telegram and snail mail. Telephone(cabled) can still be used but obviously there will be a hardship in using mobile phone. So in communication we might step back in year 1960s before the invention of the internet.
The positive effect of internet permanently shutting down is the need for more postman. So while many online dependent company are mass laying employee, the post office and other delivery services will be hiring more personnel.
If Internet shuts down then nothing works in the universe no communication as you said and probably all sectors of the world may collapsed. But don't ever imagine that anymore because we have grown above that age and there are lots of people who are actively sound to make sure we don't experience any break down and, talking about this forum.. well, what happened is just a common thing and if I am not mistakenly we have witnessed it several times and is not what to be panicking about.
Communication will not be lost, it will suffer a backslash, it can move backward and can still use telegram and snail mail. Telephone(cabled) can still be used but obviously there will be a hardship in using mobile phone. So in communication we might step back in year 1960s before the invention of the internet.
If Internet shuts down then nothing works in the universe no communication as you said and probably all sectors of the world may collapsed. But don't ever imagine that anymore because we have grown above that age and there are lots of people who are actively sound to make sure we don't experience any break down and, talking about this forum.. well, what happened is just a common thing and if I am not mistakenly we have witnessed it several times and is not what to be panicking about.
If the internet wanted to shut down, it would have done so long ago. The term of Java when the world was still operating was 1g, so there is a big difference between knowing the truth and imagining what is not possible for the majority of the world sectors really on the internet, so for it to shut down means the world has already ended, but as long as we are still alive, the internet is going nowhere. because even for entertainment people are enjoying the internet.
When I saw this thread I laughed because the question that's asked is not or can not be possible even till tomorrow, the use of the internet has increased so well that even the little children at home have started using the internet. So it is not possible for the internet to permanently shut down.
Nowadays, there are a lot of jobs people do with the internet and both governments make good use of it, so if any mistake happens to affect the satellite, there will be a total inoperative in the world.
But if the internet is totally shutdown, I don't think it will affect Bitcoin totally.
Nowadays, there are a lot of jobs people do with the internet and both governments make good use of it, so if any mistake happens to affect the satellite, there will be a total inoperative in the world.
But if the internet is totally shutdown, I don't think it will affect Bitcoin totally.
Impossibru:
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/h-bomb-and-the-internet
Internet is the first decentralized network (minus the DNS Root servers). Bitcoin is the second decentralized network.
Maybe a massive solar flare could shut it down for a few years...
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/h-bomb-and-the-internet
Internet is the first decentralized network (minus the DNS Root servers). Bitcoin is the second decentralized network.
Maybe a massive solar flare could shut it down for a few years...
That's just it!, just an illusion of thoughts that can never be born , else there's massive destructions involving the whole continent at large which is still having a less perc. to be considered I guess
I'm a dev actually it's just a default way to say the other way round of things 
Impossibru:
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/h-bomb-and-the-internet
Internet is the first decentralized network (minus the DNS Root servers). Bitcoin is the second decentralized network.
Maybe a massive solar flare could shut it down for a few years...
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/h-bomb-and-the-internet
Internet is the first decentralized network (minus the DNS Root servers). Bitcoin is the second decentralized network.
Maybe a massive solar flare could shut it down for a few years...
That's just it!, just an illusion of thoughts that can never be born , else there's massive destructions involving the whole continent at large which is still having a less perc. to be considered I guess
Impossibru:
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/h-bomb-and-the-internet
Internet is the first decentralized network (minus the DNS Root servers). Bitcoin is the second decentralized network.
Maybe a massive solar flare could shut it down for a few years...
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/h-bomb-and-the-internet
Internet is the first decentralized network (minus the DNS Root servers). Bitcoin is the second decentralized network.
Maybe a massive solar flare could shut it down for a few years...
That's just it!, just an illusion of thoughts that can never be born , else there's massive destructions involving the whole continent at large which is still having a less perc. to be considered I guess
Impossibru:
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/h-bomb-and-the-internet
Internet is the first decentralized network (minus the DNS Root servers). Bitcoin is the second decentralized network.
Maybe a massive solar flare could shut it down for a few years...
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/h-bomb-and-the-internet
Internet is the first decentralized network (minus the DNS Root servers). Bitcoin is the second decentralized network.
Maybe a massive solar flare could shut it down for a few years...
Some few days back when the forum went down for some hours, some thoughts that I used to have suddenly resurfaced in my mind. What if the internet crashes permanently! If for any reasons whether natural or manmade the internet suddenly stops working,, what will happen in the world. Unimaginable pandemonium is what will happen, because almost everything is connected to the internet, in fact the world today is so dependant on the internet to transact and communicate almost everything. Be it in finance, telecom, marketing and in every areas of technological advancements, all depends on the internet. It'll seem as if we've suddenly gone back to the stone age, if these where to happen.
I'll focus on finance, so I'm thinking what will happen to the bitcoin inside wallets, what will happen to every fiat currency in bank accounts, if everything erases as a result of internet total breakdown? Who do we hold responsible? I know that the internet technology is manmade, therefore it can not be hundred percent immune to faults and external attacks. And what if there is that less than one chance of it being faulty or compromised, what if that less than one chance happens,? what will be the fate of the world that mainly depends on it to get things done? I'm no tech guru or a prophet of doom, but this are my thoughts and fears on the matter, although I sincerely hope that I'm very wrong on these thoughts.
I'd love to be enlightened better on why it can be impossible that the internet can never be permanently shutdown, having in mind the shortcomings that I've mentioned?
I'll focus on finance, so I'm thinking what will happen to the bitcoin inside wallets, what will happen to every fiat currency in bank accounts, if everything erases as a result of internet total breakdown? Who do we hold responsible? I know that the internet technology is manmade, therefore it can not be hundred percent immune to faults and external attacks. And what if there is that less than one chance of it being faulty or compromised, what if that less than one chance happens,? what will be the fate of the world that mainly depends on it to get things done? I'm no tech guru or a prophet of doom, but this are my thoughts and fears on the matter, although I sincerely hope that I'm very wrong on these thoughts.
I'd love to be enlightened better on why it can be impossible that the internet can never be permanently shutdown, having in mind the shortcomings that I've mentioned?
If the internet permanently shuts down for some reason then its pretty safe to assume you wont need to worrie about most of the things you listed as its quite safe to assume it would be because of teh aftermath of nuclear war or emp. The only issue you will be pondering is where to get food and water if you survived. Also how to escape teh fallout
So dont worrie about the finances
Unless we are attacked by aliens, there is no way the internet all over the world is going to shut down. The forum can shut down, social media platforms, Facebook, tiktok need maintenance and often times may have a glitch but that doesn’t mean the internet will shut down. There’s been similar threads in the past, I listed some for you to follow up and add to what’s being said here. I asked the question before when the Russia- Ukraine war was heated, so I understand your concerns.
Of course, because we are not connected by satellites instead we are connected by submerged wires, by submerged I mean the wire, under the sea connecting the countries. At first, I also thought that, if all the satellites will go down then we were doomed, as we could not make any TX or use the Internet. But then after researching it. I came to realize that, we are not connected with other countries with satellites, we share the internet with other countries through wires coming from one country to another.
It was shocking for me, and it solved some confusion I had in my mind. Well, the Internet can also have glitches like the Social media you mentioned above, but not at a global level, because we also faced a huge lockdown of the Internet which affected my life greatly and also helped me to understand the importance of the Internet for us.
When there was no Internet in our country, I came to realize that, the production was so much just due to the internet and when it shut down, life became slower and everything took a huge time.
Unless we are attacked by aliens, there is no way the internet all over the world is going to shut down. The forum can shut down, social media platforms, Facebook, tiktok need maintenance and often times may have a glitch but that doesn’t mean the internet will shut down. There’s been similar threads in the past, I listed some for you to follow up and add to what’s being said here. I asked the question before when the Russia- Ukraine war was heated, so I understand your concerns.
What will happen to Bitcoin Network if the internet shuts down?
Can you think second if crypto without internets? Impossible right.
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What will happen to Bitcoin Network if the internet shuts down?
Can you think second if crypto without internets? Impossible right.
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Your answers and links coupled with most of the posts on this topic so far are very comforting, because it shows the faith that the internet can not be shut down indefinitely in every part of the world. However one can't help but sometimes imagine the possibilities of the internet crashing without a solution, because of our dependant on it in this computerized age. There's hardly anything that you want to do in this present age that doesn't require going through the internet. So despite my belief that anything manmade can damage or be compromised, i still have a deeper believe that the internet can be an exception.
It'll seem as if we've suddenly gone back to the stone age, if these where to happen.
No, we would not go back to the stone age! There were still (depending on where you live) Bronze Age, Iron Age, Medieval period, Post-Medieval period, Industrial/Modern Age... So, you could argue that we might regress to the Industrial/Modern Age, but that would not be accurate either because the knowledge would still be around. Just because something suddenly stops working does not mean we cannot rebuild it. Think of it this way, if electric cars suddenly stopped working, would that mean humans never invented the wheel?
I'll focus on finance, so I'm thinking what will happen to the bitcoin inside wallets, what will happen to every fiat currency in bank accounts, if everything erases as a result of internet total breakdown?
If the internet were to stop working globally, Bitcoin would still exist on the Blockchain in individual nodes. The nodes would temporarily lose the ability to chat with each other, but theyd still have all the data stored up. The devs would have to find a new way to establish communication again, and it doesnt necessarily have to be over the internet. As for the banks, it would be more complicated because we do not know their internal organization. Nevertheless, the databases would still be stored on the servers, but they could not make no transactions or nothing.
Who do we hold responsible? I know that the internet technology is manmade, therefore it can not be hundred percent immune to faults and external attacks. And what if there is that less than one chance of it being faulty or compromised, what if that less than one chance happens,? what will be the fate of the world that mainly depends on it to get things done? I'm no tech guru or a prophet of doom, but this are my thoughts and fears on the matter, although I sincerely hope that I'm very wrong on these thoughts.
I'd love to be enlightened better on why it can be impossible that the internet can never be permanently shutdown, having in mind the shortcomings that I've mentioned?
I'd love to be enlightened better on why it can be impossible that the internet can never be permanently shutdown, having in mind the shortcomings that I've mentioned?
What shortcomings? Well the internet is not perfect, but it is designed to be pretty resilient. Theres a crap ton of experts and smart folks out there working to keep it running. and even if there are hiccups here and there, they usually find a way to keep things going.
I'd love to be enlightened better on why it can be impossible that the internet can never be permanently shutdown, having in mind the shortcomings that I've mentioned?
As for bitcoin, The Blockstream Satellite network is one of the solutions that to the event that the internet goes down. This is directly from their website. The Blockstream Satellite network broadcasts the Bitcoin blockchain around the world 24/7 for free, protecting against network interruptions and providing areas without reliable internet connections with the opportunity to use Bitcoin.
Blockstream Satellite ground stations, known as 'teleports,' participate in the Bitcoin network and transmit blocks to geosynchronous satellites.Blockstream Satellite teleports and broadcast it across a wide portion of the Earth. Anyone in the coverage area with a small satellite antenna and an inexpensive USB receiver can receive these blocks and ensure that their node is always in sync. It provides privacy too for your IP address.
You can read it here - https://blockstream.com/satellite/
I'd love to be enlightened better on why it can be impossible that the internet can never be permanently shutdown, having in mind the shortcomings that I've mentioned?
This is something imaginable but can never be possible in this age. The internet have developed so far that it cannot be compromised that will lead to the shutdown totally. Before reaching this stage, every possible scenario or case that will lead to the total shutdown of the internet has been put under control and if any will occur in the future, it won’t take long before everything will be restored back. It is okay to have such imaginations but the shutdown of internet won’t take us back to the Stone Age. The eagerness to get back to the internet age will provide fast solutions to this if it ever happens, which is most likely not going to happen because it will be very disastrous if it happens even for a day.
It'd be disastrous, and to be frank, Bitcoin would be one of my least concerns. From the top of my head:
- Instantaneous global communication would cease, which would slow down everything.
- Banking transactions would not be possible because the banking application wouldn't be able to query the banking database. That means incapability of cashing out from your bank account either, as ATMs use the Internet.
- Every business which exists digitally would go bankrupt, completely disrupting the economy. Few of the businesses with physical representation would survive.
- Healthcare services such as health monitoring would be disrupted.
- Smart devices like smartphones, security cameras, smart cars etc., would be compromised and render useless.
By the way. Everybody would go nuts.
- Instantaneous global communication would cease, which would slow down everything.
- Banking transactions would not be possible because the banking application wouldn't be able to query the banking database. That means incapability of cashing out from your bank account either, as ATMs use the Internet.
- Every business which exists digitally would go bankrupt, completely disrupting the economy. Few of the businesses with physical representation would survive.
- Healthcare services such as health monitoring would be disrupted.
- Smart devices like smartphones, security cameras, smart cars etc., would be compromised and render useless.
By the way. Everybody would go nuts.
Some few days back when the forum went down for some hours, some thoughts that I used to have suddenly resurfaced in my mind. What if the internet crashes permanently! If for any reasons whether natural or manmade the internet suddenly stops working,, what will happen in the world. Unimaginable pandemonium is what will happen, because almost everything is connected to the internet, in fact the world today is so dependant on the internet to transact and communicate almost everything. Be it in finance, telecom, marketing and in every areas of technological advancements, all depends on the internet. It'll seem as if we've suddenly gone back to the stone age, if these where to happen.
Theymos has already addressed that in one of the thread earlier on why the forum keeps going up and down which is always a server down issue.
What you need to understand first is how the internet work. For internet to stop working completely, it means all the communication between the earth and the airspace will stop completely and if that should eventually happen, that means we are going back to the 80s and 70s when there was not internet. However, that is not going to happen, if Isreal shut down their internet today because of war, the rest of the world will continue to use the internet because they don't control other air space, their power is only limited to their country and perhaps some neigbouring countries. So, that is how the internet work.
There are alternatives today even if internet are shutdown, Elon Musk Starlink works anywhere around the world, you need your internet protocol for it to work once you properly installed it. There are also some decentralized internet on the web were you can use internet without any interruption, so chill.
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I'll focus on finance, so I'm thinking what will happen to the bitcoin inside wallets, what will happen to every fiat currency in bank accounts, if everything erases as a result of internet total breakdown? Who do we hold responsible? I know that the internet technology is manmade, therefore it can not be hundred percent immune to faults and external attacks. And what if there is that less than one chance of it being faulty or compromised, what if that less than one chance happens,? what will be the fate of the world that mainly depends on it to get things done? I'm no tech guru or a prophet of doom, but this are my thoughts and fears on the matter, although I sincerely hope that I'm very wrong on these thoughts.
I'd love to be enlightened better on why it can be impossible that the internet can never be permanently shutdown, having in mind the shortcomings that I've mentioned?
I'd love to be enlightened better on why it can be impossible that the internet can never be permanently shutdown, having in mind the shortcomings that I've mentioned?
If internet should shut down today, it only stop the computer froms communicating 0 and 1, and they stop right there where the internet was shutdown, if turn back on, nothing will be lost, they will continue from where they stop.
Your assumptions are fictionals, don't think such attack is possible. I think it is because of this kind of possible attack they didn't allow internet to be control by a single country, they made it simple to use and no disturb from other people.
Unless we are attacked by aliens, there is no way the internet all over the world is going to shut down. The forum can shut down, social media platforms, Facebook, tiktok need maintenance and often times may have a glitch but that doesn’t mean the internet will shut down. There’s been similar threads in the past, I listed some for you to follow up and add to what’s being said here. I asked the question before when the Russia- Ukraine war was heated, so I understand your concerns.
What will happen to Bitcoin Network if the internet shuts down?
Can you think second if crypto without internets? Impossible right.
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What will happen to Bitcoin Network if the internet shuts down?
Can you think second if crypto without internets? Impossible right.
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