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Quote from: SirLancelot on July 15, 2020, 01:40:03 PM

This is where websites like stake and sportsbet are great they offer you free bets (sportsbet.io) which is pure cash as you can bet and if win you can withdraw them immediately without any roll over.

Is that a Welcome Bonus, where a new account will be able to get a free money if they won on a certain game? If it is, then let me guess, the platform needs KYC am I right?
or else it could be abused.

Or maybe, is it a welcome bonus for returnees?

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Quote from: South Park on July 15, 2020, 01:14:36 PM

In fact I am pleasantly surprised by this, for the most part people love bonuses regardless of their nature but it seems in this forum we are very sensitive to the idea of receiving bonuses with strings attached and we prefer to have the liberty to bet as much as we want and then withdraw the money from the casino without having to worry if you have fulfilled the conditions of the bonuses you received as a welcome offer when you registered at the casino.

Yes, because no one a bonus that is only visible but could never be withdraw. I get tons of emails daily like 1 BTC bonus waiting for you but I never even take them seriously because they are like 1 btc bonus but million btc wager which makes it only virtual bonus which I cannot ever withdraw. This is where websites like stake and sportsbet are great they offer you free bets (sportsbet.io) which is pure cash as you can bet and if win you can withdraw them immediately without any roll over.

While stakes gives you direct bonus on reaching various VIP levels and you can just withdraw the bonus right away, so people like to have bonus such that it is real money a virtual un-withdrawable bonus.

Deposit bonus since come with a wager attached hence most people don't like it now days.

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Quote from: naikturun on July 12, 2020, 03:40:03 AM

if the casino is new, giving a bonus is a good offer to attract people to join, for example a 100% bonus for members who make a first deposit, of course, with terms and conditions.

Based on what is being discussed here, I can say that deposit bonus is not an attractive bonus for new members to join a site no matter new or old site. We all know about its term and conditions which makes players has bigger chance to lose the initial deposit once we are taking such deposit bonus. I would prefer long term bonus such as VIP program that may consist of free money, free spins, cashback, rakeback or others with no wagering requirement.

In fact I am pleasantly surprised by this, for the most part people love bonuses regardless of their nature but it seems in this forum we are very sensitive to the idea of receiving bonuses with strings attached and we prefer to have the liberty to bet as much as we want and then withdraw the money from the casino without having to worry if you have fulfilled the conditions of the bonuses you received as a welcome offer when you registered at the casino.

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Quote from: posi on July 14, 2020, 12:02:58 PM

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Is it important for you to have some kind of welcome/deposit bonus?
Or perhaps if everything else in that casino seems good for you, maybe such is not needed?
If you're into welcome offers, what are the best ones that would tempt you to sign up and start playing in that casino?

I personally prefer a free welcome bonus (without any deposit, just for signing up) to test the casino/gambling site and a good first deposit bonus. I usually do not sign up if such bonuses are not given. Also, you should take care about to pay out winnings/profits which are made from those (free) bonuses. From my experiences many casino do not and are going to make trouble.

The free welcome bonus which will make new user test out the games is also what i suggested either and once the bonus finished the player will be eager to fund his account in other to continue playng once he enjoy the game but this is what some gambling site dont understand when they give welcome bonus to new user after their first deposit.

Its not that they dont know on when is the right time to give out those bonuses neither after deposit or even or directly as a welcome bonuses, neither of the two it would really have a corresponding requirement which is pretty normal.

When we do talk about these promotions and bonuses which this had been always the primary target of most casinos on why they do launch up this kind of thing since they are luring out people
to make deposit if they did enjoy with those free rolls.

This had been always the case and its not really a shocking thing anymore.

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i would recommend lower rollovers on first bonus so people stay at casino x 50 rolover is too muc for most peoele

U respect this, lower rollovers would mean a lot for us who like to play with bonuses, but probably we will not this happening, casinos have the edge here and why would they make easy for us to win the bonus. I usually see x40 rollover, what is a lot too, and it takes a lot of gambling to finish the bonus.
I don't even remember when I saw a lower rollover, it was long before when there were some promotions with x20 and x30 rollovers. I wouldn't think twice about depositing for some bonus with that rollover, but there's no that kind of offers around.

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Quote from: tyz on July 14, 2020, 05:04:05 AM

Quote from: Bitcasino.io Support on June 19, 2020, 05:55:28 AM

Is it important for you to have some kind of welcome/deposit bonus?
Or perhaps if everything else in that casino seems good for you, maybe such is not needed?
If you're into welcome offers, what are the best ones that would tempt you to sign up and start playing in that casino?

I personally prefer a free welcome bonus (without any deposit, just for signing up) to test the casino/gambling site and a good first deposit bonus. I usually do not sign up if such bonuses are not given. Also, you should take care about to pay out winnings/profits which are made from those (free) bonuses. From my experiences many casino do not and are going to make trouble.

The free welcome bonus which will make new user test out the games is also what i suggested either and once the bonus finished the player will be eager to fund his account in other to continue playng once he enjoy the game but this is what some gambling site dont understand when they give welcome bonus to new user after their first deposit.

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Quote from: Bitcasino.io Support on June 19, 2020, 05:55:28 AM

Is it important for you to have some kind of welcome/deposit bonus?
Or perhaps if everything else in that casino seems good for you, maybe such is not needed?
If you're into welcome offers, what are the best ones that would tempt you to sign up and start playing in that casino?

I personally prefer a free welcome bonus (without any deposit, just for signing up) to test the casino/gambling site and a good first deposit bonus. I usually do not sign up if such bonuses are not given. Also, you should take care about to pay out winnings/profits which are made from those (free) bonuses. From my experiences many casino do not and are going to make trouble.

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Quote from: Bitinity on July 12, 2020, 04:26:57 AM

Based on what is being discussed here, I can say that deposit bonus is not an attractive bonus for new members to join a site no matter new or old site. We all know about its term and conditions which makes players has bigger chance to lose the initial deposit once we are taking such deposit bonus. I would prefer long term bonus such as VIP program that may consist of free money, free spins, cashback, rakeback or others with no wagering requirement.

Basically thee deposit bonus is a way for them to attract new comers to deposit on their site, I can say, newbies have trust issues whether they will deposit or not to a platform. But with the deposit bonus, it will be easy for them to start their gambling. But with the combination of rakeback, free spins, and tons and more bonuses, it will make the platform more attractive to gamblers knowing that they get the most value for their bucks.

Though, it isn't good for the gambling site to provide tons of bonuses, but if the site is just starting and they want to attract more gamblers easily, this way is effective.

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Quote from: naikturun on July 12, 2020, 03:40:03 AM

if the casino is new, giving a bonus is a good offer to attract people to join, for example a 100% bonus for members who make a first deposit, of course, with terms and conditions.

That's what normally they do. In able to attract customers and gamblers that will try them, bonuses are essential for their first months of operation. They can create also competition which is also a great attractor for the gamblers.

The thing is that many doesn't like the conditions that they are setting. But if ever they create a highly favorable and acceptable condition, every gambler tester will like it.

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Quote from: naikturun on July 12, 2020, 03:40:03 AM

if the casino is new, giving a bonus is a good offer to attract people to join, for example a 100% bonus for members who make a first deposit, of course, with terms and conditions.

Based on what is being discussed here, I can say that deposit bonus is not an attractive bonus for new members to join a site no matter new or old site. We all know about its term and conditions which makes players has bigger chance to lose the initial deposit once we are taking such deposit bonus. I would prefer long term bonus such as VIP program that may consist of free money, free spins, cashback, rakeback or others with no wagering requirement.

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if the casino is new, giving a bonus is a good offer to attract people to join, for example a 100% bonus for members who make a first deposit, of course, with terms and conditions.
or indeed if the site is good and many visitors can be removed the bonus but it's better to keep it in order to attract more people.
the site that I played has been around for quite a while but still provides bonuses and interesting events every month, so that visitors remain entertained and will continue to play in their places.

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That would hurt the players if they kicked from the casino because I think after getting kicked, they will protest to the casino, and if they can not withdraw the money, they will spread bad words to the casino. If only limiting your account to be used for the bet, that will not be a problem because they can still play and withdraw if they win. But the casino should think about how they can still get the profit while some player is winning.

Haven't really heard stories about a player being banned from a casino, are there any players here who experienced this? Cause it really sounds true but just like what you said, I am so curious how a casino do it without them getting badmouthed by a player. Cause one news of this can really affect how others see their casino business.

If no one really experienced it, I think casinos are doing it secretly, doing t in any way they can so the player doesn't really notice it. Well, I'm curious too on how do the casinos do it. Would love to hear stories from real experience.

I never heard, and I don't know if there is a gambler who gets banned from the casino because of winning many times. If that really happens, I think the casino will hide it from the public because it will see how the casino treats its winning player. People will not play too long in that casino because they will be ban if they win many times. If that person gets a ban and tells the public, I don't think the public will believe because the public will see the casino's reputations, so the public will think that person is lying to them.

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any sports deposit welcome bonus works for me even just some free play, sportsrollvers is easy

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Quote from: Danslip on July 06, 2020, 06:32:37 PM

The tricky welcome bonuses are trap and even if the gambler's luck is on his side that day the KYC requirement will be very strict in case of asking to withdraw of winnings. The winning limits are applied on free spin or free bet bonuses just to prevent such unwelcome situations.

Quote from: Sirait on July 05, 2020, 02:49:57 PM

now almost all gambling sites already offer attractive offers for new users, just how they make their users addicted to continue playing inside.

for me, the best welcome offer for me is; give a $ 5 bonus to new registrants then give a low minimum withdrawal limit.

Right, they don't publish the withdrawal limits or wagering amounts with bold written text on the first part of promo page.

This is one of my problems with those bonuses, while I have gambled long enough to know that any bonus I receive from a casino will come with strings attached, someone that is relatively new to gambling may not know this information and instead of informing very clearly to gamblers about the terms of the bonuses many casinos are dishonest and try to hide this information from their customers which is never a good thing to do.

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Quote from: imstillthebest on July 10, 2020, 10:54:37 AM

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I liked all the welcome offers, as long as there weren't any strings attached.

Of course, most have conditions and restrictions and whatnot, and I usually stay away from them
But I did find some casinos that really just give you some deposit that you can just keep if you want / free rolls etc.

can i check that site your saying ? give me links here or pm if it include a referal link . im looking for that kind of site too but i havent found one yet so far . all the sites that im playing with have a requirement before you can claim your reward and i kinda figure it out that its not worth it but i just play the normal way . welcome bonus does depend too , usually free rolls are for slots but on non slots game they will credit some few coins instead for you to play or test thier site

Seems that many players are attracted to certain casinos based on different rewards and welcome bonuses. For above mentioned site I'm interested too.
But I would like to see some figures about that how many gamblers then stay loyal to these casinos. Do majority of gamblers stay as long as they are able to use rewards and then go further for another reward or they become more regular.

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I guess the gambler will not get ban if he can win often than the other gamblers, but the casino will watch him closely, and make sure that the gambler is not cheating. The old and new casino offers a more welcome bonus to the old and new gamblers so they can play longer than usual, so the casino can get the money from the losing gamblers.

There are gambling site that would still do it, I haven't experience it but sooner or later casinos will kick some of their winning players if they win too much since they have to balance out the wins and losses. Sometimes they would do it in a different way instead of banning your account they'll limit your account until you can only bet the minimum amount.

That would hurt the players if they kicked from the casino because I think after getting kicked, they will protest to the casino, and if they can not withdraw the money, they will spread bad words to the casino. If only limiting your account to be used for the bet, that will not be a problem because they can still play and withdraw if they win. But the casino should think about how they can still get the profit while some player is winning.

Haven't really heard stories about a player being banned from a casino, are there any players here who experienced this? Cause it really sounds true but just like what you said, I am so curious how a casino do it without them getting badmouthed by a player. Cause one news of this can really affect how others see their casino business.

If no one really experienced it, I think casinos are doing it secretly, doing t in any way they can so the player doesn't really notice it. Well, I'm curious too on how do the casinos do it. Would love to hear stories from real experience.

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Quote from: ralle14 on July 09, 2020, 10:22:24 PM

Quote from: michellee on July 09, 2020, 10:06:55 PM

I guess the gambler will not get ban if he can win often than the other gamblers, but the casino will watch him closely, and make sure that the gambler is not cheating. The old and new casino offers a more welcome bonus to the old and new gamblers so they can play longer than usual, so the casino can get the money from the losing gamblers.

There are gambling site that would still do it, I haven't experience it but sooner or later casinos will kick some of their winning players if they win too much since they have to balance out the wins and losses. Sometimes they would do it in a different way instead of banning your account they'll limit your account until you can only bet the minimum amount.

That would hurt the players if they kicked from the casino because I think after getting kicked, they will protest to the casino, and if they can not withdraw the money, they will spread bad words to the casino. If only limiting your account to be used for the bet, that will not be a problem because they can still play and withdraw if they win. But the casino should think about how they can still get the profit while some player is winning.

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Quote from: 3227jw on July 10, 2020, 12:44:43 AM

I liked all the welcome offers, as long as there weren't any strings attached.

Of course, most have conditions and restrictions and whatnot, and I usually stay away from them
But I did find some casinos that really just give you some deposit that you can just keep if you want / free rolls etc.

can i check that site your saying ? give me links here or pm if it include a referal link . im looking for that kind of site too but i havent found one yet so far . all the sites that im playing with have a requirement before you can claim your reward and i kinda figure it out that its not worth it but i just play the normal way . welcome bonus does depend too , usually free rolls are for slots but on non slots game they will credit some few coins instead for you to play or test thier site

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Quote from: ralle14 on July 09, 2020, 10:22:24 PM

Quote from: michellee on July 09, 2020, 10:06:55 PM

I guess the gambler will not get ban if he can win often than the other gamblers, but the casino will watch him closely, and make sure that the gambler is not cheating. The old and new casino offers a more welcome bonus to the old and new gamblers so they can play longer than usual, so the casino can get the money from the losing gamblers.

There are gambling site that would still do it, I haven't experience it but sooner or later casinos will kick some of their winning players if they win too much since they have to balance out the wins and losses. Sometimes they would do it in a different way instead of banning your account they'll limit your account until you can only bet the minimum amount.

It depends on what gambling site you are dealing with because as a gambler when you are winning that much or most of the time then you will surely able to feel if there are possible alterations
or sudden changes that would really be put up into your account and with that then you wont really just let it pass and you willl surely tell the public which the house is already aware on that kind of possibility
that will tarnish out their reputation thats why i dont believe much when we do talk about on reputable sites nowadays.They might able to take a hit but they do know that they can patch it up on long run.When it comes
to promotion and bonuses it doesnt matter that much to me.

When you're winning too much, definitely they will put you on the watchlist to make it sure that your playing fairly. Also, they'll change some algorithms or put some restrictions on your account so you will not be able to have a winning streak again, that's the worst-case of gambling in online casinos. Actually, it doesn't happen only in online casinos, it happens in actual casinos where gamblers get banned from winning too much. But like what you've said that it'll damage their reputation if some players found out that they're closing or banning some account because of having winning streak. Owners will definitely make a move that will not damage their reputation because after all, it's a business.

Wait. If it is a crypto casino, then any bet can be checked on the blockchain.
For example, Roobet Casino provides information on how rates are calculated and what needs to be done to check them on the blockchain.

How then will they change the algorithms if the games use the blockchain?
Either this is a trick from the very beginning, or what you are talking about is possible only in ordinary online casinos.

Im not saying that this one isnt possible but we dont know on whats happening backdoor.Yes, they might really make out some changes but to rigged out or everything is verifiable then its risky for them
to make such move.We should consider that there are only a few winner and majority is on loss which will simply compensate it off.There are days that they will be snatched out by big wins but doesnt mean that
it would be the end for them.They do know that they always have the edge.I cant judge of but all the possibilities of rigging up games is there.It all matters on where you do play though.

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Quote from: finaleshot2016 on July 10, 2020, 07:41:24 AM

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Quote from: michellee on July 09, 2020, 10:06:55 PM

I guess the gambler will not get ban if he can win often than the other gamblers, but the casino will watch him closely, and make sure that the gambler is not cheating. The old and new casino offers a more welcome bonus to the old and new gamblers so they can play longer than usual, so the casino can get the money from the losing gamblers.

There are gambling site that would still do it, I haven't experience it but sooner or later casinos will kick some of their winning players if they win too much since they have to balance out the wins and losses. Sometimes they would do it in a different way instead of banning your account they'll limit your account until you can only bet the minimum amount.

It depends on what gambling site you are dealing with because as a gambler when you are winning that much or most of the time then you will surely able to feel if there are possible alterations
or sudden changes that would really be put up into your account and with that then you wont really just let it pass and you willl surely tell the public which the house is already aware on that kind of possibility
that will tarnish out their reputation thats why i dont believe much when we do talk about on reputable sites nowadays.They might able to take a hit but they do know that they can patch it up on long run.When it comes
to promotion and bonuses it doesnt matter that much to me.

When you're winning too much, definitely they will put you on the watchlist to make it sure that your playing fairly. Also, they'll change some algorithms or put some restrictions on your account so you will not be able to have a winning streak again, that's the worst-case of gambling in online casinos. Actually, it doesn't happen only in online casinos, it happens in actual casinos where gamblers get banned from winning too much. But like what you've said that it'll damage their reputation if some players found out that they're closing or banning some account because of having winning streak. Owners will definitely make a move that will not damage their reputation because after all, it's a business.

Wait. If it is a crypto casino, then any bet can be checked on the blockchain.
For example, Roobet Casino provides information on how rates are calculated and what needs to be done to check them on the blockchain.

How then will they change the algorithms if the games use the blockchain?
Either this is a trick from the very beginning, or what you are talking about is possible only in ordinary online casinos.

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