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Quote from: milewilda on July 10, 2020, 05:11:09 AM

Quote from: ralle14 on July 09, 2020, 10:22:24 PM

Quote from: michellee on July 09, 2020, 10:06:55 PM

I guess the gambler will not get ban if he can win often than the other gamblers, but the casino will watch him closely, and make sure that the gambler is not cheating. The old and new casino offers a more welcome bonus to the old and new gamblers so they can play longer than usual, so the casino can get the money from the losing gamblers.

There are gambling site that would still do it, I haven't experience it but sooner or later casinos will kick some of their winning players if they win too much since they have to balance out the wins and losses. Sometimes they would do it in a different way instead of banning your account they'll limit your account until you can only bet the minimum amount.

It depends on what gambling site you are dealing with because as a gambler when you are winning that much or most of the time then you will surely able to feel if there are possible alterations
or sudden changes that would really be put up into your account and with that then you wont really just let it pass and you willl surely tell the public which the house is already aware on that kind of possibility
that will tarnish out their reputation thats why i dont believe much when we do talk about on reputable sites nowadays.They might able to take a hit but they do know that they can patch it up on long run.When it comes
to promotion and bonuses it doesnt matter that much to me.

When you're winning too much, definitely they will put you on the watchlist to make it sure that your playing fairly. Also, they'll change some algorithms or put some restrictions on your account so you will not be able to have a winning streak again, that's the worst-case of gambling in online casinos. Actually, it doesn't happen only in online casinos, it happens in actual casinos where gamblers get banned from winning too much. But like what you've said that it'll damage their reputation if some players found out that they're closing or banning some account because of having winning streak. Owners will definitely make a move that will not damage their reputation because after all, it's a business.

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Quote from: TitanGEL on July 09, 2020, 01:31:29 AM

Is that really true? i think it is part of their strategy in order for them to not lose money. Of course a gambling company is focusing to earn money. I think it is unfair to the gambler if he/she banned by the management just because he/she wins consecutively or win often.

There are now a lot of gambling websites nowadays and it is really hard to pick one because most of them are offering different rewards that can benefit each other. What I want in a certain casinos have deposit bonus or high rewards in terns of referrals.

If the casino finds out that you are playing dishonestly, they are 100% likely to ban you from playing with them. Also, if you constantly win, but they can't prove your cheating, then there is also a chance that you will be banned from playing. The online casino is much easier thanks to the welcome bonus to attract new players who will lose more money than win.

Quote from: michellee on July 09, 2020, 10:06:55 PM

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Quote from: michellee on July 08, 2020, 01:39:06 AM

It is true. The casino will use their secret employees to act as a real gambler and play together with other gamblers, so that employee can know who is a gambler that can win the most round so they can watch closest to that gamblers. And if necessary, they will invite the gamblers to play in the secret room which will eat their money as soon as possible. That gambler will always want to spend and get more challenges from the casino because they want to make another win.

What's the secret room?

I don't know. I never go to the real casino, but I only guess that the big casino will have a secret room to play with more gamblers, and maybe many gamblers is rich, and they want to play gambling privately.

I've never seen a secret room. There are poker tables where different sizes of small and large blind are used. And rich players play where the blinds are high.

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Quote from: ralle14 on July 09, 2020, 10:22:24 PM

Quote from: michellee on July 09, 2020, 10:06:55 PM

I guess the gambler will not get ban if he can win often than the other gamblers, but the casino will watch him closely, and make sure that the gambler is not cheating. The old and new casino offers a more welcome bonus to the old and new gamblers so they can play longer than usual, so the casino can get the money from the losing gamblers.

There are gambling site that would still do it, I haven't experience it but sooner or later casinos will kick some of their winning players if they win too much since they have to balance out the wins and losses. Sometimes they would do it in a different way instead of banning your account they'll limit your account until you can only bet the minimum amount.

It depends on what gambling site you are dealing with because as a gambler when you are winning that much or most of the time then you will surely able to feel if there are possible alterations
or sudden changes that would really be put up into your account and with that then you wont really just let it pass and you willl surely tell the public which the house is already aware on that kind of possibility
that will tarnish out their reputation thats why i dont believe much when we do talk about on reputable sites nowadays.They might able to take a hit but they do know that they can patch it up on long run.When it comes
to promotion and bonuses it doesnt matter that much to me.

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I liked all the welcome offers, as long as there weren't any strings attached.

Of course, most have conditions and restrictions and whatnot, and I usually stay away from them
But I did find some casinos that really just give you some deposit that you can just keep if you want / free rolls etc.

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Quote from: michellee on July 09, 2020, 10:06:55 PM

I guess the gambler will not get ban if he can win often than the other gamblers, but the casino will watch him closely, and make sure that the gambler is not cheating. The old and new casino offers a more welcome bonus to the old and new gamblers so they can play longer than usual, so the casino can get the money from the losing gamblers.

There are gambling site that would still do it, I haven't experience it but sooner or later casinos will kick some of their winning players if they win too much since they have to balance out the wins and losses. Sometimes they would do it in a different way instead of banning your account they'll limit your account until you can only bet the minimum amount.

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Quote from: TitanGEL on July 09, 2020, 01:31:29 AM

Is that really true? i think it is part of their strategy in order for them to not lose money. Of course a gambling company is focusing to earn money. I think it is unfair to the gambler if he/she banned by the management just because he/she wins consecutively or win often.

There are now a lot of gambling websites nowadays and it is really hard to pick one because most of them are offering different rewards that can benefit each other. What I want in a certain casinos have deposit bonus or high rewards in terns of referrals.

I guess the gambler will not get ban if he can win often than the other gamblers, but the casino will watch him closely, and make sure that the gambler is not cheating. The old and new casino offers a more welcome bonus to the old and new gamblers so they can play longer than usual, so the casino can get the money from the losing gamblers.

Quote from: FontSeli on July 09, 2020, 04:53:03 PM

Quote from: michellee on July 08, 2020, 01:39:06 AM

It is true. The casino will use their secret employees to act as a real gambler and play together with other gamblers, so that employee can know who is a gambler that can win the most round so they can watch closest to that gamblers. And if necessary, they will invite the gamblers to play in the secret room which will eat their money as soon as possible. That gambler will always want to spend and get more challenges from the casino because they want to make another win.

What's the secret room?

I don't know. I never go to the real casino, but I only guess that the big casino will have a secret room to play with more gamblers, and maybe many gamblers is rich, and they want to play gambling privately.

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Quote from: bitcoinst on July 06, 2020, 01:27:29 PM

I do not mean gamblers who are just lucky, even if they are lucky for a long time. I mean professional players who have developed certain strategies and know how to beat the casino.
Of course, such cases are one, but history shows us that they had a place to be in the past, which means they are now.

There are no professional players who can beat the casino in long term and anyone who claims himself as a professional who can beat the house edge is either lying or just one of those gamblers who roll dice all day to find a working strategy which would never exist because any strategy will become with a house edge acting against it.

The gamblers can never beat house unless you are talking about sports bettors because that is the only option where gamblers can use analysis and various aspects like recent form, home team advantage, etc to beat the house.

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Quote from: bitcoinst on July 07, 2020, 07:42:13 AM

Undoubtedly.
Casinos should always win. Therefore, in any possible case, account blocking is not excluded under completely different pretexts.

Even in those casinos where some of the games are played against people, there are cases when a professional player is blocked on the basis of the fact that he used cheating programs, bots, algorithms, etc.

It is much more difficult to install a cheater in an online casino than in a regular casino. Here you do not see the person and his actions.
Therefore, players can be blocked simply because of frequent winnings. However, I have not heard such stories from familiar players. Perhaps no one can win all the time.

Quote from: michellee on July 08, 2020, 01:39:06 AM

It is true. The casino will use their secret employees to act as a real gambler and play together with other gamblers, so that employee can know who is a gambler that can win the most round so they can watch closest to that gamblers. And if necessary, they will invite the gamblers to play in the secret room which will eat their money as soon as possible. That gambler will always want to spend and get more challenges from the casino because they want to make another win.

What's the secret room?

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Quote from: FontSeli on July 07, 2020, 05:06:06 AM

Quote from: bitcoinst on July 06, 2020, 01:27:29 PM

Quote from: michellee on July 02, 2020, 10:08:48 PM

That small part of gamblers will not always earn money for the long term because they need to realize that if they win, that is because of their luck comes to them.

As long as the casino can manage their welcome bonuses to their visitors and members, the casino will make a profit from the gamblers because there will be some gamblers who will deposit in a big amount to play gambling. That can be another income for the casino in the short term and long term, which can bring them the money.

I do not mean gamblers who are just lucky, even if they are lucky for a long time. I mean professional players who have developed certain strategies and know how to beat the casino.
Of course, such cases are one, but history shows us that they had a place to be in the past, which means they are now.

In regular casinos, there is a security service that calculates professional players and in the future they may be denied access to the casino. I think that there are people or software in online casinos that monitors your winnings, and if you almost always win, you may also be banned from playing there.

Is that really true? i think it is part of their strategy in order for them to not lose money. Of course a gambling company is focusing to earn money. I think it is unfair to the gambler if he/she banned by the management just because he/she wins consecutively or win often.

There are now a lot of gambling websites nowadays and it is really hard to pick one because most of them are offering different rewards that can benefit each other. What I want in a certain casinos have deposit bonus or high rewards in terns of referrals.

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Quote from: Mauser on July 08, 2020, 02:41:43 AM

Quote from: michellee on July 08, 2020, 01:39:06 AM

It is true. The casino will use their secret employees to act as a real gambler and play together with other gamblers, so that employee can know who is a gambler that can win the most round so they can watch closest to that gamblers. And if necessary, they will invite the gamblers to play in the secret room which will eat their money as soon as possible. That gambler will always want to spend and get more challenges from the casino because they want to make another win.

This sounds a bit like a hollywood movie. The casino doesn't need to employee a lot of people just as fake gambler to interact with real gamblers.

Of course there are VIP rooms for professional gambler, but you need to a be a whale to actually get into these. If you just play with a few hundred bucks and get lucky one night, you wont be joining these rooms.

Also, don't forget that the games in the casino are already running in their favour - every game has a casino edge - otherwise they wouldn't make money.

The casino can only use less than 10 employees to watch every customer in the gambling table because they also have a camera which can watch around the gambling place. If you are lucky to win a hundred bucks, they might consider to invite you to the large table which has another pro gambler, so that can make you get another challenge. Yes, I believe that every game in the casino will have their favour so the casino will always make money.

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Quote from: michellee on July 08, 2020, 01:39:06 AM

It is true. The casino will use their secret employees to act as a real gambler and play together with other gamblers, so that employee can know who is a gambler that can win the most round so they can watch closest to that gamblers. And if necessary, they will invite the gamblers to play in the secret room which will eat their money as soon as possible. That gambler will always want to spend and get more challenges from the casino because they want to make another win.

I think players of this kind should know very well how the casino works, which means they will know all the tricks that the casino has prepared for them.
A successful player of this type will always leave the casino before they take it seriously.

I don’t think that employees representing fake players are provided for in the casino, because there are hundreds of cameras per wardrate meter watching every awkward movement.

Indeed. But I don't think that the casino would tell of their secret to that person because they need that secret to win. But the successful player will always aware of what the casino use, and maybe they will know that the employee acts as a gambler.

The camera will be used in a big casino, but for the medium or small casino, they will not use too many cameras but they can use their employee in every corner of the place.

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Quote from: peter0425 on July 08, 2020, 04:00:04 AM

actually some gamblers that find out to be winning constantly are mostly got banned in such casino.
though i found those actions stupid.

But Sportsbettors are good at it,they mostly win because of knowledge about that game and the players/teams they are betting.

Even sportsbook are limiting people who are winning constantly and that is because they understand that a particular group of gamblers are good at sports betting and making value picks. I have seen in stake a lot of guys are shouting that their limit has been decreased and they cannot bet more than 0.01 BTC or so because of those limits.

I have never been so lucky with sports so I have unlimited limits or normal limits and they would never limit me either because they don't want me to loose limited Grin

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As a welcome offer something like a deposit bonus is best but without excessive wagering requirements.

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Anything that benefits me while entering into their website is good for me, like deposit bouns, free spins, even referrals with good margin.But most of the offers are not really giving any benefits to the users so they really don't enter any wesbite just because they are having some kind of promotions.

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Quote from: Mauser on July 08, 2020, 02:41:43 AM

This sounds a bit like a hollywood movie. The casino doesn't need to employee a lot of people just as fake gambler to interact with real gamblers.

Of course there are VIP rooms for professional gambler, but you need to a be a whale to actually get into these. If you just play with a few hundred bucks and get lucky one night, you wont be joining these rooms.

Also, don't forget that the games in the casino are already running in their favour - every game has a casino edge - otherwise they wouldn't make money.

In the VIP room not everyone can enter because it is specifically for gamblers who are very professional of course with large amounts of money might be called billionaires but is there anyone who can? it's only certain people who do it we as lovers of gambling will not do as it might be doing the game with reasonable care every gambler there is always a challenge and curiosity about luck who want to continue to try again.

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Quote from: michellee on July 08, 2020, 01:39:06 AM

Quote from: FontSeli on July 07, 2020, 05:06:06 AM

Quote from: bitcoinst on July 06, 2020, 01:27:29 PM

Quote from: michellee on July 02, 2020, 10:08:48 PM

That small part of gamblers will not always earn money for the long term because they need to realize that if they win, that is because of their luck comes to them.

As long as the casino can manage their welcome bonuses to their visitors and members, the casino will make a profit from the gamblers because there will be some gamblers who will deposit in a big amount to play gambling. That can be another income for the casino in the short term and long term, which can bring them the money.

I do not mean gamblers who are just lucky, even if they are lucky for a long time. I mean professional players who have developed certain strategies and know how to beat the casino.
Of course, such cases are one, but history shows us that they had a place to be in the past, which means they are now.

In regular casinos, there is a security service that calculates professional players and in the future they may be denied access to the casino. I think that there are people or software in online casinos that monitors your winnings, and if you almost always win, you may also be banned from playing there.

It is true. The casino will use their secret employees to act as a real gambler and play together with other gamblers, so that employee can know who is a gambler that can win the most round so they can watch closest to that gamblers. And if necessary, they will invite the gamblers to play in the secret room which will eat their money as soon as possible. That gambler will always want to spend and get more challenges from the casino because they want to make another win.

I think players of this kind should know very well how the casino works, which means they will know all the tricks that the casino has prepared for them.
A successful player of this type will always leave the casino before they take it seriously.

I don’t think that employees representing fake players are provided for in the casino, because there are hundreds of cameras per wardrate meter watching every awkward movement.

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Quote from: peter0425 on July 08, 2020, 04:00:04 AM

Quote from: bitcoinst on July 06, 2020, 01:27:29 PM

Quote from: michellee on July 02, 2020, 10:08:48 PM

That small part of gamblers will not always earn money for the long term because they need to realize that if they win, that is because of their luck comes to them.

As long as the casino can manage their welcome bonuses to their visitors and members, the casino will make a profit from the gamblers because there will be some gamblers who will deposit in a big amount to play gambling. That can be another income for the casino in the short term and long term, which can bring them the money.

I do not mean gamblers who are just lucky, even if they are lucky for a long time. I mean professional players who have developed certain strategies and know how to beat the casino.
Of course, such cases are one, but history shows us that they had a place to be in the past, which means they are now.

actually some gamblers that find out to be winning constantly are mostly got banned in such casino.
though i found those actions stupid.

But Sportsbettors are good at it,they mostly win because of knowledge about that game and the players/teams they are betting.

I heard that in some casinos problems start from the moment you try to withdraw a large amount of money.
Until this moment, everything goes smoothly, then at the conclusion you may be blocked from your account and require documents proving your identity or something else.

The pretext is not uncommon that you used additional software to win, but it seems to me like idiocy.

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Quote from: bitcoinst on July 06, 2020, 01:27:29 PM

Quote from: michellee on July 02, 2020, 10:08:48 PM

That small part of gamblers will not always earn money for the long term because they need to realize that if they win, that is because of their luck comes to them.

As long as the casino can manage their welcome bonuses to their visitors and members, the casino will make a profit from the gamblers because there will be some gamblers who will deposit in a big amount to play gambling. That can be another income for the casino in the short term and long term, which can bring them the money.

I do not mean gamblers who are just lucky, even if they are lucky for a long time. I mean professional players who have developed certain strategies and know how to beat the casino.
Of course, such cases are one, but history shows us that they had a place to be in the past, which means they are now.

actually some gamblers that find out to be winning constantly are mostly got banned in such casino.
though i found those actions stupid.

But Sportsbettors are good at it,they mostly win because of knowledge about that game and the players/teams they are betting.

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Quote from: michellee on July 08, 2020, 01:39:06 AM

Quote from: FontSeli on July 07, 2020, 05:06:06 AM

Quote from: bitcoinst on July 06, 2020, 01:27:29 PM

Quote from: michellee on July 02, 2020, 10:08:48 PM

That small part of gamblers will not always earn money for the long term because they need to realize that if they win, that is because of their luck comes to them.

As long as the casino can manage their welcome bonuses to their visitors and members, the casino will make a profit from the gamblers because there will be some gamblers who will deposit in a big amount to play gambling. That can be another income for the casino in the short term and long term, which can bring them the money.

I do not mean gamblers who are just lucky, even if they are lucky for a long time. I mean professional players who have developed certain strategies and know how to beat the casino.
Of course, such cases are one, but history shows us that they had a place to be in the past, which means they are now.

In regular casinos, there is a security service that calculates professional players and in the future they may be denied access to the casino. I think that there are people or software in online casinos that monitors your winnings, and if you almost always win, you may also be banned from playing there.

It is true. The casino will use their secret employees to act as a real gambler and play together with other gamblers, so that employee can know who is a gambler that can win the most round so they can watch closest to that gamblers. And if necessary, they will invite the gamblers to play in the secret room which will eat their money as soon as possible. That gambler will always want to spend and get more challenges from the casino because they want to make another win.

This sounds a bit like a hollywood movie. The casino doesn't need to employee a lot of people just as fake gambler to interact with real gamblers.

Of course there are VIP rooms for professional gambler, but you need to a be a whale to actually get into these. If you just play with a few hundred bucks and get lucky one night, you wont be joining these rooms.

Also, don't forget that the games in the casino are already running in their favour - every game has a casino edge - otherwise they wouldn't make money.

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Quote from: FontSeli on July 07, 2020, 05:06:06 AM

Quote from: bitcoinst on July 06, 2020, 01:27:29 PM

Quote from: michellee on July 02, 2020, 10:08:48 PM

That small part of gamblers will not always earn money for the long term because they need to realize that if they win, that is because of their luck comes to them.

As long as the casino can manage their welcome bonuses to their visitors and members, the casino will make a profit from the gamblers because there will be some gamblers who will deposit in a big amount to play gambling. That can be another income for the casino in the short term and long term, which can bring them the money.

I do not mean gamblers who are just lucky, even if they are lucky for a long time. I mean professional players who have developed certain strategies and know how to beat the casino.
Of course, such cases are one, but history shows us that they had a place to be in the past, which means they are now.

In regular casinos, there is a security service that calculates professional players and in the future they may be denied access to the casino. I think that there are people or software in online casinos that monitors your winnings, and if you almost always win, you may also be banned from playing there.

It is true. The casino will use their secret employees to act as a real gambler and play together with other gamblers, so that employee can know who is a gambler that can win the most round so they can watch closest to that gamblers. And if necessary, they will invite the gamblers to play in the secret room which will eat their money as soon as possible. That gambler will always want to spend and get more challenges from the casino because they want to make another win.

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Quote from: FontSeli on July 07, 2020, 05:06:06 AM

Quote from: bitcoinst on July 06, 2020, 01:27:29 PM

Quote from: michellee on July 02, 2020, 10:08:48 PM

That small part of gamblers will not always earn money for the long term because they need to realize that if they win, that is because of their luck comes to them.

As long as the casino can manage their welcome bonuses to their visitors and members, the casino will make a profit from the gamblers because there will be some gamblers who will deposit in a big amount to play gambling. That can be another income for the casino in the short term and long term, which can bring them the money.

I do not mean gamblers who are just lucky, even if they are lucky for a long time. I mean professional players who have developed certain strategies and know how to beat the casino.
Of course, such cases are one, but history shows us that they had a place to be in the past, which means they are now.

In regular casinos, there is a security service that calculates professional players and in the future they may be denied access to the casino. I think that there are people or software in online casinos that monitors your winnings, and if you almost always win, you may also be banned from playing there.

Undoubtedly.
Casinos should always win. Therefore, in any possible case, account blocking is not excluded under completely different pretexts.

Even in those casinos where some of the games are played against people, there are cases when a professional player is blocked on the basis of the fact that he used cheating programs, bots, algorithms, etc.

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Quote from: bitcoinst on July 06, 2020, 01:27:29 PM

Quote from: michellee on July 02, 2020, 10:08:48 PM

That small part of gamblers will not always earn money for the long term because they need to realize that if they win, that is because of their luck comes to them.

As long as the casino can manage their welcome bonuses to their visitors and members, the casino will make a profit from the gamblers because there will be some gamblers who will deposit in a big amount to play gambling. That can be another income for the casino in the short term and long term, which can bring them the money.

I do not mean gamblers who are just lucky, even if they are lucky for a long time. I mean professional players who have developed certain strategies and know how to beat the casino.
Of course, such cases are one, but history shows us that they had a place to be in the past, which means they are now.

In regular casinos, there is a security service that calculates professional players and in the future they may be denied access to the casino. I think that there are people or software in online casinos that monitors your winnings, and if you almost always win, you may also be banned from playing there.

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