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Therefore, it is better that online casinos do not give a welcome bonus, but give rewards for the number of games played, for the amount of time spent in games, and so on. This would help stimulate not only the arrival of new players, but also keep them for a long time.

agree with your view.. sometimes the "welcome" bonus is often used (HIT & RUN) and IMO is not very effective in increasing the interest of newcomers to stay on the site for a long time. bonuses for players who are the most active or play the most types of games can be an effective way to stimulate old players to stay afloat or make outsiders glance to join in..

Its always been part of marketing strategy and of course there would be always big players on the site that do stay up showing off high wagers and big hits but to know that those guys are still in deep loses.

These numbers can really stimulate other gamblers interest on where it would really have that high tendency on hooking up and make them play into the place.

If youve been gambling for a while then you do know on how these bonuses works but if not then you would surely look these offers seems very great for you but soon you will realize
that these things will just rip you off.

Indeed the welcome bonus amounts are subject to huge wagering requirements and the casino administration has the right to freeze the account in order to ask the personal documents because of big winnings. The luck is not enough to wager the big amounts, some gamblers play smartly and rely on their bankroll management. The odds are not same for 10k and 1k punter in all cases, the other factors affect heavily the final result.

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Therefore, it is better that online casinos do not give a welcome bonus, but give rewards for the number of games played, for the amount of time spent in games, and so on. This would help stimulate not only the arrival of new players, but also keep them for a long time.

agree with your view.. sometimes the "welcome" bonus is often used (HIT & RUN) and IMO is not very effective in increasing the interest of newcomers to stay on the site for a long time. bonuses for players who are the most active or play the most types of games can be an effective way to stimulate old players to stay afloat or make outsiders glance to join in..

I made the offer based on my own experience. In fact, I played in several online casinos, and one even gave me $ 100 to balance. I lost them and never went back.
Online casinos must have statistics on the behavior of various players. And they should see that attracting a new player is just as difficult as getting them to come next time.

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snip..

Therefore, it is better that online casinos do not give a welcome bonus, but give rewards for the number of games played, for the amount of time spent in games, and so on. This would help stimulate not only the arrival of new players, but also keep them for a long time.

agree with your view.. sometimes the "welcome" bonus is often used (HIT & RUN) and IMO is not very effective in increasing the interest of newcomers to stay on the site for a long time. bonuses for players who are the most active or play the most types of games can be an effective way to stimulate old players to stay afloat or make outsiders glance to join in..

Its always been part of marketing strategy and of course there would be always big players on the site that do stay up showing off high wagers and big hits but to know that those guys are still in deep loses.

These numbers can really stimulate other gamblers interest on where it would really have that high tendency on hooking up and make them play into the place.

If youve been gambling for a while then you do know on how these bonuses works but if not then you would surely look these offers seems very great for you but soon you will realize
that these things will just rip you off.

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Quote from: Debonaire217 on June 27, 2020, 10:40:51 PM

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Therefore, it is better that online casinos do not give a welcome bonus, but give rewards for the number of games played, for the amount of time spent in games, and so on. This would help stimulate not only the arrival of new players, but also keep them for a long time.

agree with your view.. sometimes the "welcome" bonus is often used (HIT & RUN) and IMO is not very effective in increasing the interest of newcomers to stay on the site for a long time. bonuses for players who are the most active or play the most types of games can be an effective way to stimulate old players to stay afloat or make outsiders glance to join in..

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Quote from: Debonaire217 on June 27, 2020, 10:40:51 PM

Sometimes providing too many bonuses especially for new players aren't that effective. Some players are abusing the system as they are creating too many accounts though it could still be avoided by implementing IP restrictions for one account.

This is possible that it might happen of abusing the welcome bonus system by making a ton of accounts. But I don't know if they will abuse the fund by sending it into their alternate accounts. That is strictly prohibited in most gambling platforms and might the IP address was under monitoring by them because this is the most common problem as I heard.

But look at Freebitco.in, they until now have a faucet to collect and they still existed in their platform (how they can manage?) Probably, a welcome bonus isn't needed, but a faucet that you can able to get when your balance turn to zero might still catchy from most gamblers.

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Quote from: sujonali1819 on June 28, 2020, 10:19:37 AM

1. Arrange some giveaways for the bitcointalk users and or/ somewhere, where people can not abuse it. 10-20 dollars for new participants who have to make 1x wager. I mean a reasonable amount and a reasonable wager so that people would be attracted.

I'm sure $10-$20 with 1x wager will still be abused as it is easy to wager 1x of the bonus amount. Even free bonuses with higher wagering requirement is still being abused by abusers. Abusers wont really care about the wagering requirement imho as long as there is a chance to make money for free.

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2. Arrange some deposit bonus. 50-100% deposit bonus for a while where the user has to do a reasonable wager before withdraw. Means high bonus > small wager

Good idea, but I do not think casinos will offer such bonuses (high bonus small wager) as it will be risky for the casino to lose money. It can be applied with special conditions only imho, i.e it is a deposit bonus for players with xx min wager (before taking the bonus). Something like special bonus for VIP players or loyal players.

1. Yes you are right that it could be abused easily if you open it for all people. So by setting some rules it could be possible to decrease the abuse.

2. If you start special bonus for the VIP players only then how you catch new players? And yes it’s right that if any casino run high bonus and little wager must be loss. But sometime they should take it as investment for a little period to collect new players.

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Quote from: Debonaire217 on June 27, 2020, 10:40:51 PM

Sometimes providing too many bonuses especially for new players aren't that effective. Some players are abusing the system as they are creating too many accounts though it could still be avoided by implementing IP restrictions for one account. I think gambling sites should focus on developing their games in such a case that players will not be bored in long term playing because welcome bonuses are only good at the start and if the gambling site doesn't really care for long term, these players will switch to another site.

Therefore, it is better that online casinos do not give a welcome bonus, but give rewards for the number of games played, for the amount of time spent in games, and so on. This would help stimulate not only the arrival of new players, but also keep them for a long time.

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i think that the best one is free spins... or free bonuses

It is best if you prefer free spins. I'm contemplating the free spins as a welcome bonus.

I guess it's also good rather than the bonus welcome as we deposit. Well, it always really depends on our likes.

Welcome bonus after the very first deposit is not the right to offer best welcome bonuses to the new gambling site user and the free spin offer seems better if we're talking about casino/dice form of gambling but for esports, i like free fund as one my local booker does which make them have huge users.

How does that free fund works?

Like free credit to the balance of their users?

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i think that the best one is free spins... or free bonuses

It is best if you prefer free spins. I'm contemplating the free spins as a welcome bonus.

I guess it's also good rather than the bonus welcome as we deposit. Well, it always really depends on our likes.

Welcome bonus after the very first deposit is not the right to offer best welcome bonuses to the new gambling site user and the free spin offer seems better if we're talking about casino/dice form of gambling but for esports, i like free fund as one my local booker does which make them have huge users.

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Quote from: kote777 on June 29, 2020, 04:15:24 AM

i think that the best one is free spins... or free bonuses

It is best if you prefer free spins. I'm contemplating the free spins as a welcome bonus.

I guess it's also good rather than the bonus welcome as we deposit. Well, it always really depends to our likes.

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I prefer those casino gambling that is 100% legit over those casino gambling that is not familiar even though they have something to offer for you, such as bonuses, freewheel, or something. This is what you should think also about online gambling, you should not focus from bonuses of other online gambling, you should choose the best and legit online gambling for you, there are still many fake websites that you can encounter, you should know how to differentiate fake and legit websites so you will not get scammed by the fake websites.

Quote from: Charles-Tim on June 19, 2020, 06:13:02 AM

First of all, I will make sure the site is old and legit.

$50 welcome bonus is good for me. But there are some that gives 100% bonus of up to 1 btc. That is good enough as well, I can deposit 0.002 btc to receive 0.004 BTC.

Well said, that is what we should think before trying casino gambling, we should choose the old, known and legit casino gambling which is fair for winning and losing.

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i think that the best one is free spins... or free bonuses

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Quote from: abel1337 on June 28, 2020, 08:19:33 PM

I partially agree that limiting IP address can't solve problems, Putting an IP limit is still better than without having it but people do have ways to bypass it like VPN, Though not all abusers do use VPN or some are lazy enough not to do it. I think limitation in bonuses or giveaways can greatly help the reduction of the abuse and putting a wagering requirement is enough for users to not just receive and withdraw the bonus they can get from that promotion, It is proven that putting a wagering requirement reduced the chance of getting abused.

Those who are lazy and do not use VPN always get blocked, it seems to me that such a system for tracking abusers is already in every online casino.
I think most casinos do just that - they set the conditions in such a way that a person would have to "work out" the received bonus in full.
Obviously, situations happen, for example, on new platforms, when bonuses can be abused through multi accounts, but as a rule the casino quickly notices this vulnerability and changes the conditions.

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Quote from: sujonali1819 on June 28, 2020, 10:19:37 AM

1. Arrange some giveaways for the bitcointalk users and or/ somewhere, where people can not abuse it. 10-20 dollars for new participants who have to make 1x wager. I mean a reasonable amount and a reasonable wager so that people would be attracted.

I'm sure $10-$20 with 1x wager will still be abused as it is easy to wager 1x of the bonus amount. Even free bonuses with higher wagering requirement is still being abused by abusers. Abusers wont really care about the wagering requirement imho as long as there is a chance to make money for free.

Quote from: sujonali1819 on June 28, 2020, 10:19:37 AM

2. Arrange some deposit bonus. 50-100% deposit bonus for a while where the user has to do a reasonable wager before withdraw. Means high bonus > small wager

Good idea, but I do not think casinos will offer such bonuses (high bonus small wager) as it will be risky for the casino to lose money. It can be applied with special conditions only imho, i.e it is a deposit bonus for players with xx min wager (before taking the bonus). Something like special bonus for VIP players or loyal players.

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I think the welcome bonus can be available for some weeks, so after the time is the end, they don't give a welcome bonus to new people, but they can provide the other bonuses when people deposit some amount of money. I think that can prevent the abusers from using a VPN or they want to get the welcome bonuses. Perhaps, if the website can have a faucet, the welcome bonus will not be necessary because after people register, they can use that faucet to get free coins that they can use to continue playing. But of course, the free coins will not too many, and they need to deposit if they want to play for a long time.

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Quote from: Debonaire217 on June 27, 2020, 10:40:51 PM

Sometimes providing too many bonuses especially for new players aren't that effective. Some players are abusing the system as they are creating too many accounts though it could still be avoided by implementing IP restrictions for one account. I think gambling sites should focus on developing their games in such a case that players will not be bored in long term playing because welcome bonuses are only good at the start and if the gambling site doesn't really care for long term, these players will switch to another site.

I don’t think that limiting the IP address can solve such problems, given that we live in the age of VPN.
I don’t see any particular problems with the fact that people abuse bonuses, because every time they have to make a new deposit and subsequently wager the bonus, which will make them linger on the platform for some time. However, this signals that it is necessary to make such types of bonuses so that the client does not have to create new accounts to receive it.

I partially agree that limiting IP address can't solve problems, Putting an IP limit is still better than without having it but people do have ways to bypass it like VPN, Though not all abusers do use VPN or some are lazy enough not to do it. I think limitation in bonuses or giveaways can greatly help the reduction of the abuse and putting a wagering requirement is enough for users to not just receive and withdraw the bonus they can get from that promotion, It is proven that putting a wagering requirement reduced the chance of getting abused.

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That is why I do not like those bonuses either, on the surface it may look as a great opportunity but once you really begin to look at the details you realize that it is almost impossible to meet the requirements needed in order to eventually get your money out of the casino, if this was a forum which only dealt with fiat we could have a different opinion but since this is a bitcoin forum then most of the members will be very sensitive to the issue of depositing your coins in the wallet of someone else and being limited about when you can get your coins back, so it is understandable most of us do not like such offers.

Bonuses and promotions would really have significant wagering requirements and its just dumb that casinos or gambling sites would give out offers without any exchange or rules.

These places or sites arent charities to give out money and if they do make promotions then expect that is just been part of their marketing strategy to lure in more people to the site

which is commonly their primary motive to make their business profitable because we know that house do always win in the end.

I know that my point is that if I have the option to receive a bonus and deal with all those restrictions about how to wager my money just to be able to withdraw that money or to not receive the bonus and gamble as I want then I prefer to pick the latter, I gamble in order to get some fun, I do not want to deal with all of those restrictions if I can, besides I am very sensitive to the idea of having my coins trapped on a casino and not be able to withdraw them as I had some similar experiences on the past and I lost some money because of it.

Come to know that even depositing your money into a online casino would really need some wagering requirement before making any withdrawals since they dont let up their platform to be
just a mixer of some others coins.Therefore, it would be still locked in some sort.

Gambling is indeed for entertainment thats why some others do get or love those bonuses just for their capital to make it more bigger in spite of the terms being set.

Its just a matter of gamblers preference though.

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Quote from: Debonaire217 on June 27, 2020, 10:40:51 PM

Sometimes providing too many bonuses especially for new players aren't that effective. Some players are abusing the system as they are creating too many accounts though it could still be avoided by implementing IP restrictions for one account. I think gambling sites should focus on developing their games in such a case that players will not be bored in long term playing because welcome bonuses are only good at the start and if the gambling site doesn't really care for long term, these players will switch to another site.

I don’t think that limiting the IP address can solve such problems, given that we live in the age of VPN.
I don’t see any particular problems with the fact that people abuse bonuses, because every time they have to make a new deposit and subsequently wager the bonus, which will make them linger on the platform for some time. However, this signals that it is necessary to make such types of bonuses so that the client does not have to create new accounts to receive it.

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Nice to see there is a project asking users opinion about the bonuses for new users. I really like it and it's a great move for any site. btw I have some suggestions about it.

1. Arrange some giveaways for the bitcointalk users and or/ somewhere, where people can not abuse it. 10-20 dollars for new participants who have to make 1x wager. I mean a reasonable amount and a reasonable wager so that people would be attracted.
2. Arrange some deposit bonus. 50-100% deposit bonus for a while where the user has to do a reasonable wager before withdraw. Means high bonus > small wager

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Quote from: South Park on June 24, 2020, 11:51:14 AM

That is why I do not like those bonuses either, on the surface it may look as a great opportunity but once you really begin to look at the details you realize that it is almost impossible to meet the requirements needed in order to eventually get your money out of the casino, if this was a forum which only dealt with fiat we could have a different opinion but since this is a bitcoin forum then most of the members will be very sensitive to the issue of depositing your coins in the wallet of someone else and being limited about when you can get your coins back, so it is understandable most of us do not like such offers.

Bonuses and promotions would really have significant wagering requirements and its just dumb that casinos or gambling sites would give out offers without any exchange or rules.

These places or sites arent charities to give out money and if they do make promotions then expect that is just been part of their marketing strategy to lure in more people to the site

which is commonly their primary motive to make their business profitable because we know that house do always win in the end.

I know that my point is that if I have the option to receive a bonus and deal with all those restrictions about how to wager my money just to be able to withdraw that money or to not receive the bonus and gamble as I want then I prefer to pick the latter, I gamble in order to get some fun, I do not want to deal with all of those restrictions if I can, besides I am very sensitive to the idea of having my coins trapped on a casino and not be able to withdraw them as I had some similar experiences on the past and I lost some money because of it.

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