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Quote from: michellee on July 02, 2020, 04:37:20 AM

But if the new casino offers a welcome bonus and many promotions that can make them to losses, that will not be good for their business because they need to exist for a long time. The online gambling business is not a short term business, but it is a long term business that wants to invite more and more gamblers. They need to think about how much money that they will use as the promotion, and if that bonus is to give free money to their customer, it's better they know how much the amount.

Yes, that is one risk thay a gambling platform cod have especially offering bonus as welcome to a certain users. It would not be good if it would be that high for a certain user might create more accounts just to obtain the bonuses offered.

This is why most of the gambling platform offers cheap.bonuses but enables you to play more games havinf lowest bet as much as possible that you can enjoy gambling.

And low bets lets you always win I guess and this is the strategy that an e games could be configure based on my presumptions in order for them to earn.

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Quote from: CODE200 on July 01, 2020, 01:55:26 PM

This not new for a newly open casinos, most likely these casinos are up for the competition among the other existing casino so they are featuring welcome bonuses and promotions that sometimes lead to their losses. This promotion are often being taken advantage by some people, especially the referral program with unlimited down lines they are literally creating money out of making verified accounts. I remember back then in telegram, someone approached me to made an account and verified it with 50/50 share on earnings.

But if the new casino offers a welcome bonus and many promotions that can make them to losses, that will not be good for their business because they need to exist for a long time. The online gambling business is not a short term business, but it is a long term business that wants to invite more and more gamblers. They need to think about how much money that they will use as the promotion, and if that bonus is to give free money to their customer, it's better they know how much the amount.

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on July 01, 2020, 03:53:18 PM

They commonly set out roll over on which most gamblers cant really able to pull it of. 40x or more might really be easy as it looks but actually a really hard
requirement for you to achieve unless if you are extremely lucky.

This is why i dont really bother much on promotions no matter how good or generous it do looks like because thinking of the terms alone would already
kill out my excitement on playing. hehehe

A man who knows what the welcome bonuses are for, as well as how the entire bonus-related system works, he will never choose an online casino to play just because of bonuses.
No one will say: "Hello friend. Glad you came to play with us! Keep a hundred bucks and you can do whatever you want with it, even take it right away."

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Therefore, it is better that online casinos do not give a welcome bonus, but give rewards for the number of games played, for the amount of time spent in games, and so on. This would help stimulate not only the arrival of new players, but also keep them for a long time.

agree with your view.. sometimes the "welcome" bonus is often used (HIT & RUN) and IMO is not very effective in increasing the interest of newcomers to stay on the site for a long time. bonuses for players who are the most active or play the most types of games can be an effective way to stimulate old players to stay afloat or make outsiders glance to join in..

Its always been part of marketing strategy and of course there would be always big players on the site that do stay up showing off high wagers and big hits but to know that those guys are still in deep loses.

These numbers can really stimulate other gamblers interest on where it would really have that high tendency on hooking up and make them play into the place.

If youve been gambling for a while then you do know on how these bonuses works but if not then you would surely look these offers seems very great for you but soon you will realize
that these things will just rip you off.

Indeed the welcome bonus amounts are subject to huge wagering requirements and the casino administration has the right to freeze the account in order to ask the personal documents because of big winnings. The luck is not enough to wager the big amounts, some gamblers play smartly and rely on their bankroll management. The odds are not same for 10k and 1k punter in all cases, the other factors affect heavily the final result.

They commonly set out roll over on which most gamblers cant really able to pull it of. 40x or more might really be easy as it looks but actually a really hard
requirement for you to achieve unless if you are extremely lucky.

This is why i dont really bother much on promotions no matter how good or generous it do looks like because thinking of the terms alone would already
kill out my excitement on playing. hehehe

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Quote from: iamsheikhadil on July 01, 2020, 08:03:52 AM

I think the best bonus is 200% deposit bonus for the first three deposits, or a free bet in a any sportsbook with a wagering condition. That will be a good offer for me. Free bonuses without any strings attached only lead to abuse!

Too smart conditions. Usually the first deposit bonus is the largest, and all subsequent ones are reduced in proportion to it. Even if you imagine that the casino will give a bonus, I’m sure the conditions will not be the easiest and it will take a long time to win back even the first deposit.
Casinos are not interested in what players earn, casinos are interested in their own earnings. In addition, the casino pays bonuses from its own treasury, so it makes no sense to make conditions that will be beneficial for the players but will not be beneficial for the casino, this will lead to losses.

Right, but there is nothing wrong either because he has expressed his wishes and I think that is something natural when someone asks about a welcome offer he wants. That's all about the promotion strategy, but when a clever player makes use of the bonuses he gets then of course it will be good for him, because the requirements of the bonus offered are also not always easy and at least difficult to achieve.

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Quote from: iamsheikhadil on July 01, 2020, 08:03:52 AM

I think the best bonus is 200% deposit bonus for the first three deposits, or a free bet in a any sportsbook with a wagering condition. That will be a good offer for me. Free bonuses without any strings attached only lead to abuse!

Too smart conditions. Usually the first deposit bonus is the largest, and all subsequent ones are reduced in proportion to it. Even if you imagine that the casino will give a bonus, I’m sure the conditions will not be the easiest and it will take a long time to win back even the first deposit.
Casinos are not interested in what players earn, casinos are interested in their own earnings. In addition, the casino pays bonuses from its own treasury, so it makes no sense to make conditions that will be beneficial for the players but will not be beneficial for the casino, this will lead to losses.

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Quote from: Chrystora123 on June 29, 2020, 06:42:53 PM

agree with your view.. sometimes the "welcome" bonus is often used (HIT & RUN) and IMO is not very effective in increasing the interest of newcomers to stay on the site for a long time. bonuses for players who are the most active or play the most types of games can be an effective way to stimulate old players to stay afloat or make outsiders glance to join in..

Hit & Run for the gambler? I don't think that will work every time they try the new gambling site because it depends on the luck itself. If you are lucky, then yes, you can withdraw that money by winning some gambling games. But if not, you need to deposit more money and play more round, but that will be back to your luck again. The bonuses will be good marketing to invite more people to come, but sometimes, if people see that the bonuses are not good enough to attract them, they will not visit that website.

This not new for a newly open casinos, most likely these casinos are up for the competition among the other existing casino so they are featuring welcome bonuses and promotions that sometimes lead to their losses. This promotion are often being taken advantage by some people, especially the referral program with unlimited down lines they are literally creating money out of making verified accounts. I remember back then in telegram, someone approached me to made an account and verified it with 50/50 share on earnings.

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Quote from: TrevorS on June 28, 2020, 02:30:36 PM

Quote from: Debonaire217 on June 27, 2020, 11:40:51 PM

Sometimes providing too many bonuses especially for new players aren't that effective. Some players are abusing the system as they are creating too many accounts though it could still be avoided by implementing IP restrictions for one account. I think gambling sites should focus on developing their games in such a case that players will not be bored in long term playing because welcome bonuses are only good at the start and if the gambling site doesn't really care for long term, these players will switch to another site.

I don’t think that limiting the IP address can solve such problems, given that we live in the age of VPN.
I don’t see any particular problems with the fact that people abuse bonuses, because every time they have to make a new deposit and subsequently wager the bonus, which will make them linger on the platform for some time. However, this signals that it is necessary to make such types of bonuses so that the client does not have to create new accounts to receive it.

A VPN has a limited amount of IP addresses, as such even if at the beginning a casino may not implement effective measures against them over time they will get the majority of the IP addresses related to a particular VPN and block most of its users trying to abuse their promotions and bonuses, so a casino could do well to limit its promotions at the beginning to limit the price they have to pay for this kind of abuse and once they have effective measures against such abusers they can improve their offers as they will catch most of those trying to abuse their generosity.

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I think the best bonus is 200% deposit bonus for the first three deposits, or a free bet in a any sportsbook with a wagering condition. That will be a good offer for me. Free bonuses without any strings attached only lead to abuse!

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Quote from: TrevorS on June 30, 2020, 12:37:34 PM

Quote from: michellee on June 29, 2020, 11:40:48 PM

Quote from: Chrystora123 on June 29, 2020, 06:42:53 PM

agree with your view.. sometimes the "welcome" bonus is often used (HIT & RUN) and IMO is not very effective in increasing the interest of newcomers to stay on the site for a long time. bonuses for players who are the most active or play the most types of games can be an effective way to stimulate old players to stay afloat or make outsiders glance to join in..

Hit & Run for the gambler? I don't think that will work every time they try the new gambling site because it depends on the luck itself. If you are lucky, then yes, you can withdraw that money by winning some gambling games. But if not, you need to deposit more money and play more round, but that will be back to your luck again. The bonuses will be good marketing to invite more people to come, but sometimes, if people see that the bonuses are not good enough to attract them, they will not visit that website.

It seems to me that a similar strategy Hit and Run will use professional bonus abusers. Indeed, for beginners, the first victory, as a rule, only kindles the taste of the game.
But even instant luck will not allow you to withdraw bonus money, they will have to win back for some time, that's how casino bonuses are arranged. Otherwise, there would be significantly more abusers.
I do not mind wagering bonuses for a long time, but I would prefer that these bonuses be the more the longer I play, and not vice versa.

When beginners can get their first winning, they will have two options, which is to stop playing gambling or continue playing gambling. They will feel that gambling is attractive and can give some money to them. While they can not withdraw the bonus money, they will play more rounds because they think that if they can win in the next few rounds, they will have a chance to withdraw the money. I think that is not worth it because they don't have too big chance to win.

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Quote from: Oilacris on June 30, 2020, 05:29:34 PM

Everything is already calculated by the house and they wont just set out promotions that would completely give out disadvantage to them.

They would always aiming to be on the edge.They do make look themselves to be generous by most gamblers but majority arent really aware

on what thing they are dealing with.Gamblers thought that they do have the advantage but its actually not.

Naturally. This is their business and they want to earn more than the players. If players start earning more money from bonuses than they spend for bets, the casino will go bust. Therefore, their bonuses will always be arranged so that players will be interested in coming to them and they will spend much more than they received from the casino.

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Quote from: StephenJH on June 30, 2020, 06:16:13 PM

The advantage of house is unbeatable no matter how strong money management or other strategies gamblers have. The proven fact is enough to beat all conspiracy theories related to "luck of gambler", IMHO.

Lol on using the term "conspiracy theories" related to luck. It happens, mate.

Of course, house is unbeatable but somehow there's a chance that a gambler might hit the right hash and that's how provably fair works. If ever a gambler hits it, it can now considered as luck. If house is impossible to beat in each of the rolls, we should see fewer gamblers today playing at these house-edge gambling games.

Just make sure, if ever a gambler wins decently, to stopped playing and just come back the other day.

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Quote from: TrevorS on June 30, 2020, 12:37:34 PM

agree with your view.. sometimes the "welcome" bonus is often used (HIT & RUN) and IMO is not very effective in increasing the interest of newcomers to stay on the site for a long time. bonuses for players who are the most active or play the most types of games can be an effective way to stimulate old players to stay afloat or make outsiders glance to join in..

Hit & Run for the gambler? I don't think that will work every time they try the new gambling site because it depends on the luck itself. If you are lucky, then yes, you can withdraw that money by winning some gambling games. But if not, you need to deposit more money and play more round, but that will be back to your luck again. The bonuses will be good marketing to invite more people to come, but sometimes, if people see that the bonuses are not good enough to attract them, they will not visit that website.

Everything is already calculated by the house and they wont just set out promotions that would completely give out disadvantage to them.

They would always aiming to be on the edge.They do make look themselves to be generous by most gamblers but majority arent really aware

on what thing they are dealing with.Gamblers thought that they do have the advantage but its actually not.

Of course, casinos are not charity organizations and the purpose of the casino promotion is to attract as many players, in the first place. The advantage of house is unbeatable no matter how strong money management or other strategies gamblers have. The proven fact is enough to beat all conspiracy theories related to "luck of gambler", IMHO.

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Quote from: Chrystora123 on June 29, 2020, 06:42:53 PM

agree with your view.. sometimes the "welcome" bonus is often used (HIT & RUN) and IMO is not very effective in increasing the interest of newcomers to stay on the site for a long time. bonuses for players who are the most active or play the most types of games can be an effective way to stimulate old players to stay afloat or make outsiders glance to join in..

Hit & Run for the gambler? I don't think that will work every time they try the new gambling site because it depends on the luck itself. If you are lucky, then yes, you can withdraw that money by winning some gambling games. But if not, you need to deposit more money and play more round, but that will be back to your luck again. The bonuses will be good marketing to invite more people to come, but sometimes, if people see that the bonuses are not good enough to attract them, they will not visit that website.

It seems to me that a similar strategy Hit and Run will use professional bonus abusers. Indeed, for beginners, the first victory, as a rule, only kindles the taste of the game.
But even instant luck will not allow you to withdraw bonus money, they will have to win back for some time, that's how casino bonuses are arranged. Otherwise, there would be significantly more abusers.
I do not mind wagering bonuses for a long time, but I would prefer that these bonuses be the more the longer I play, and not vice versa.

The owners of online casinos calculate everything so as not to lose their welcome bonus. They have statistics for how many games visitors lose the welcome bonus and start spending their money. Everything is set based on these statistics.

Everything is already calculated by the house and they wont just set out promotions that would completely give out disadvantage to them.

They would always aiming to be on the edge.They do make look themselves to be generous by most gamblers but majority arent really aware

on what thing they are dealing with.Gamblers thought that they do have the advantage but its actually not.

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Unlike many other gamblers out there who would take a casino's welcome offers, I'd rather look for the casino, and if it is my type, then I'd definitely pass those welcome offers or bonuses. The reason is, I don't feel so lucky when it comes to meeting wagering requirements to be able to withdraw my bonus.

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Most of the casinos I have registered have welcome bonus just some satoshi not exceeding $1 Cheesy

I guess the best one was stake dot com they are giving me $7 worth of crypto through their reload promotion. Yes, a promotion like that is really needed to attract new players, some players want to try it first and by doing that the platform will earn some trust and people will think that they are serious about what they are doing. It really benefits both sides it is a good marketing strategy.

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Quote from: TrevorS on June 30, 2020, 12:37:34 PM

Quote from: michellee on June 29, 2020, 11:40:48 PM

Quote from: Chrystora123 on June 29, 2020, 06:42:53 PM

agree with your view.. sometimes the "welcome" bonus is often used (HIT & RUN) and IMO is not very effective in increasing the interest of newcomers to stay on the site for a long time. bonuses for players who are the most active or play the most types of games can be an effective way to stimulate old players to stay afloat or make outsiders glance to join in..

Hit & Run for the gambler? I don't think that will work every time they try the new gambling site because it depends on the luck itself. If you are lucky, then yes, you can withdraw that money by winning some gambling games. But if not, you need to deposit more money and play more round, but that will be back to your luck again. The bonuses will be good marketing to invite more people to come, but sometimes, if people see that the bonuses are not good enough to attract them, they will not visit that website.

It seems to me that a similar strategy Hit and Run will use professional bonus abusers. Indeed, for beginners, the first victory, as a rule, only kindles the taste of the game.
But even instant luck will not allow you to withdraw bonus money, they will have to win back for some time, that's how casino bonuses are arranged. Otherwise, there would be significantly more abusers.
I do not mind wagering bonuses for a long time, but I would prefer that these bonuses be the more the longer I play, and not vice versa.

The owners of online casinos calculate everything so as not to lose their welcome bonus. They have statistics for how many games visitors lose the welcome bonus and start spending their money. Everything is set based on these statistics.

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Quote from: michellee on June 29, 2020, 11:40:48 PM

Quote from: Chrystora123 on June 29, 2020, 06:42:53 PM

agree with your view.. sometimes the "welcome" bonus is often used (HIT & RUN) and IMO is not very effective in increasing the interest of newcomers to stay on the site for a long time. bonuses for players who are the most active or play the most types of games can be an effective way to stimulate old players to stay afloat or make outsiders glance to join in..

Hit & Run for the gambler? I don't think that will work every time they try the new gambling site because it depends on the luck itself. If you are lucky, then yes, you can withdraw that money by winning some gambling games. But if not, you need to deposit more money and play more round, but that will be back to your luck again. The bonuses will be good marketing to invite more people to come, but sometimes, if people see that the bonuses are not good enough to attract them, they will not visit that website.

It seems to me that a similar strategy Hit and Run will use professional bonus abusers. Indeed, for beginners, the first victory, as a rule, only kindles the taste of the game.
But even instant luck will not allow you to withdraw bonus money, they will have to win back for some time, that's how casino bonuses are arranged. Otherwise, there would be significantly more abusers.
I do not mind wagering bonuses for a long time, but I would prefer that these bonuses be the more the longer I play, and not vice versa.

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Quote from: Woodie on June 27, 2020, 12:03:54 PM

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Quote from: Woodie on June 26, 2020, 07:23:21 PM

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If a gambling site have such offers then they will go bankrupt more sooner than the gamblers for sure. Cheesy

How can we expect a gambling site to give 100% deposit bonus and withdraw the money before any bets? People can simply make new account again and again to abuse this offer and eventually they will become a millionaire if they keep repeating this process for a month or two. Roll Eyes

You misunderstood me! I didn't say anything in the lines of allowing gamblers to withdraw anything before placing any bets, that's like allowing people to withdraw funds off their accounts because there is an incoming unconfirmed transaction....people out there are smart don't try their trust they can hit you with a double spend and bookie loses out

Balance will be visible of gambling sites only if atleast the transaction get one confirmation so double spending may not be possible on most of the sites but if we allow the gamblers to withdraw funds for minimum number of bets then they will abuse the system for sure.

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Quote from: Chrystora123 on June 29, 2020, 06:42:53 PM

agree with your view.. sometimes the "welcome" bonus is often used (HIT & RUN) and IMO is not very effective in increasing the interest of newcomers to stay on the site for a long time. bonuses for players who are the most active or play the most types of games can be an effective way to stimulate old players to stay afloat or make outsiders glance to join in..

Hit & Run for the gambler? I don't think that will work every time they try the new gambling site because it depends on the luck itself. If you are lucky, then yes, you can withdraw that money by winning some gambling games. But if not, you need to deposit more money and play more round, but that will be back to your luck again. The bonuses will be good marketing to invite more people to come, but sometimes, if people see that the bonuses are not good enough to attract them, they will not visit that website.

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