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After all, humans are social creatures who need a real sense of touch and if we lose that, then the possibility of feeling like a human will also disappear. So actually, even though technology has developed rapidly and even though we can communicate remotely or play games with various technological advances, including using VR, it would be better to maintain real communication with each other so that we can still feel touch as humans. We can use the latest technology but it's better to stick with the habits we used to do in the real world. 
Topic: What is your opinions about simulated reality games? - page 2. (Read 1002 times)
I don't know anything about this game but I think, if the type of game grows over time then it's likely a trusted service. At least as long as the user or player doesn't have a problem then we can just rely on it, different if there are many players who complain then that will be a consideration too. About something that is set or not I think it depends on how high the win rate of the other players is, if they still get a win in a few rounds then at least we can say something fair or not.
though it is growing over time yet we must experience the game first before we could say good about the specific game specially if we don't really have any idea .I am also are not a Simulated reality player but I read about this over time and my assumption about Simulated gaming is cool and getting popular nowadays.
I don't know anything about this game but I think, if the type of game grows over time then it's likely a trusted service. At least as long as the user or player doesn't have a problem then we can just rely on it, different if there are many players who complain then that will be a consideration too. About something that is set or not I think it depends on how high the win rate of the other players is, if they still get a win in a few rounds then at least we can say something fair or not.
though it is growing over time yet we must experience the game first before we could say good about the specific game specially if we don't really have any idea .I am also are not a Simulated reality player but I read about this over time and my assumption about Simulated gaming is cool and getting popular nowadays.
I personally hate Simulated Reality based games because they defy logic and the past data and are completely random. I have seen certain players losing to some opponents against whom they have never lost in real life.
Look, I am not against simulated gambling but they are charging the same house edge as of real sports and the gambling itself is more like casino where the result is random. Why would you play casino at such a high house edge? I would rather roll the dice at 1% house edge than bet on a simulated game that has the same mechanism but charges 8% or so house edge. Plus the casino game is at least provably fair while simulated is never fair not played in real.
To this I will add that in sport betting you can reduce the edge the casino has against you with skillful play, something that is not really possible with those simulated games, so while I can understand why some people may like them, anyone that is somewhat serious about sport betting will never think about putting a single bet in one of those games as the few measures they can take to improve their chances to get a win are useless in those simulated games, so you may as well stick to what you know, also many people make sports bet to increase the enjoyment they get out of watching the sport they like, which is something they cannot do with simulated games either. Look, I am not against simulated gambling but they are charging the same house edge as of real sports and the gambling itself is more like casino where the result is random. Why would you play casino at such a high house edge? I would rather roll the dice at 1% house edge than bet on a simulated game that has the same mechanism but charges 8% or so house edge. Plus the casino game is at least provably fair while simulated is never fair not played in real.
Interesting. I have seen this at several bookmakers but didn't take it seriously as it looks like slot machines to me (purely psychologically). I would like to know if anyone has done research on how well these games match the real ones - are there such insane results that we sometimes see in reality or the spread of outcomes is smoother.
It could never be comparable when it talks about reality aspects which neither it would happen or not and since its simulated games then results could really be totally random and surprisinglythere were people who do really get interested on making out some bets out of these games considering that they arent live ones or basing up on historical data just like on whats been mentioned
above then it might be totally or 100% random in result where some people do find it out to be interesting.
Proper simulations should give results that, on large amounts of data, will be indistinguishable from the results of non-simulated games. That is, regardless of whether you really toss 10 dice or simulate this process, with a certain number of tosses, you should get 10 sixes.
Still, when I think about the mathematical background of the process, I understand that I will never bet on simulated games, because it may be almost the same with a "live" game, but in a live game, the better and the bookmaker compete in predicting an unknown event and in simulated games, the bookmaker is initially on the side that controls all possible outcomes.
One interesting angle on this is how simulated reality games will be able to connect different players across the world in new ways. Just imagine a device which could, in some sort of suspended mech suit, impose all the expected gravitational forces you might get and accompanied by some sort of weather generator, combined with a full visual and auditory headset almost trick the brain into a sensory overload where you would enter a virtual environment completely. It could mean football matches, or any activity for that matter, being played in a virtual stadium without players having to leave their own home setup. It's a bit of a scary thought how far technology will progress but it's going to reach this point and ultimately end up like the matrix (hopefully without the robot overlords)
Interesting. I have seen this at several bookmakers but didn't take it seriously as it looks like slot machines to me (purely psychologically). I would like to know if anyone has done research on how well these games match the real ones - are there such insane results that we sometimes see in reality or the spread of outcomes is smoother.
It could never be comparable when it talks about reality aspects which neither it would happen or not and since its simulated games then results could really be totally random and surprisinglythere were people who do really get interested on making out some bets out of these games considering that they arent live ones or basing up on historical data just like on whats been mentioned
above then it might be totally or 100% random in result where some people do find it out to be interesting.
Proper simulations should give results that, on large amounts of data, will be indistinguishable from the results of non-simulated games. That is, regardless of whether you really toss 10 dice or simulate this process, with a certain number of tosses, you should get 10 sixes.
Still, when I think about the mathematical background of the process, I understand that I will never bet on simulated games, because it may be almost the same with a "live" game, but in a live game, the better and the bookmaker compete in predicting an unknown event and in simulated games, the bookmaker is initially on the side that controls all possible outcomes.
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is this really the case in these kinds of games?
as far as I know, for this type of bets / matches there is no process that allows you to independently verify the final result.
or something that help to understand how the final result has been determined.
likewise in Dice you can verify your roll.... here you can verify what happens?
if between a "super favorite" and a "very poor" team the result is always a bit obvious ... if this not happens how can we verify these results? More over, the result is determined by what kind of calculations?
Interesting. I have seen this at several bookmakers but didn't take it seriously as it looks like slot machines to me (purely psychologically). I would like to know if anyone has done research on how well these games match the real ones - are there such insane results that we sometimes see in reality or the spread of outcomes is smoother.
It could never be comparable when it talks about reality aspects which neither it would happen or not and since its simulated games then results could really be totally random and surprisinglythere were people who do really get interested on making out some bets out of these games considering that they arent live ones or basing up on historical data just like on whats been mentioned
above then it might be totally or 100% random in result where some people do find it out to be interesting.
Proper simulations should give results that, on large amounts of data, will be indistinguishable from the results of non-simulated games. That is, regardless of whether you really toss 10 dice or simulate this process, with a certain number of tosses, you should get 10 sixes.
Still, when I think about the mathematical background of the process, I understand that I will never bet on simulated games, because it may be almost the same with a "live" game, but in a live game, the better and the bookmaker compete in predicting an unknown event and in simulated games, the bookmaker is initially on the side that controls all possible outcomes.
I don't know anything about this game but I think, if the type of game grows over time then it's likely a trusted service. At least as long as the user or player doesn't have a problem then we can just rely on it, different if there are many players who complain then that will be a consideration too. About something that is set or not I think it depends on how high the win rate of the other players is, if they still get a win in a few rounds then at least we can say something fair or not.
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For gamblers to trust this kind of algorithms, their code must be open to all. Until it is not, there will be no trust.
If rigged matches can be found in big sports, it is impossible to completely rule out possible cheating by simulated reality game providers. But the most interesting thing is that we are unlikely to ever know the answer to the main question - how often they are abused.
I'm not a big fan of it. I have seen a few and I don't trust them at all. Very arbitrary things happen on it and it might as well be rigged. You just don't know. I might as well bet on provably fair dice, if I don't want to bet on actual sports.
I understand where you're coming from. It's really difficult to trust simulated games because there's a high probability they are being controlled or manipulated in accordance to what the developer or operator wants. Simulated games could be rigged because they can conduct a game prior and just show the players the results inclined with them to gain more profit. I know this might not be the case for every simulated games there is, but we can't help but to doubt most especially if it isn't running under probably fair.
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Yes, this is because real communication is gradually being forced out of our lives because of the emergence of new technologies. This can be clearly seen in the last three or four generations. The older generation still lives in reality and needs to communicate because in their youth there were no gadgets for communication. With each new generation, the attachment to new technology is getting higher. Good or bad, everyone decides for himself.
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Of course, it will feel strange for people used to using the previous methods. As people who live in this transitional era, we cannot deny the presence of virtual technology and even some of us feel happy using this technology. But luckily, people can still use the old ways to play and haven't really thought about using ways that use virtual technology.snip
It will disappear from human civilization in the future because it will be replaced by virtual technology that is newer than what we see today. People seem to welcome its presence and want to try it even though the technology itself still needs to be perfected. But someday, when technology has developed rapidly in the future, people will feel lost to be able to feel real touch. But unfortunately, many people are happy with what these companies offer. They seem eager to taste it and own it. Our world in the future will be different and with the development of today's technology becoming more advanced, we will be less likely to participate in real life. Maybe there will be no more visits to the homes of our distant relatives by car or motorbike to see the surroundings because we can get it through technology. That is what we will face in the future, whether we like it or not.
The saddest thing is that many of us do not realize that no technology can replace or recreate the real feelings and reactions that arise in the human body when we meet in person after a long separation. It is impossible to convey the feelings of a kiss from a loved one, a caress and a firm, friendly hug from a distance. That's why I think you should spend more time in the real world and not try to turn yourself into an avatar.
But unfortunately, many people are happy with what these companies offer. They seem eager to taste it and own it. Our world in the future will be different and with the development of today's technology becoming more advanced, we will be less likely to participate in real life. Maybe there will be no more visits to the homes of our distant relatives by car or motorbike to see the surroundings because we can get it through technology. That is what we will face in the future, whether we like it or not.
Immersion in virtual technologies has not yet spread to many countries. But I think that in some foreseeable time, opposition to this penetration will be born and will spread. Some balance has to be found here.
For example, the most common game in the world is football. Well, how can you replace all those passions of the fans and the players themselves with a computer picture? It simply cannot be replaced.
But when the world reaches the real / virtual balance, this issue, as I believe, has not yet been resolved. I would like to quickly determine this balance and finally decide.
But unfortunately, many people are happy with what these companies offer. They seem eager to taste it and own it. Our world in the future will be different and with the development of today's technology becoming more advanced, we will be less likely to participate in real life. Maybe there will be no more visits to the homes of our distant relatives by car or motorbike to see the surroundings because we can get it through technology. That is what we will face in the future, whether we like it or not.
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I support your point of view. Humanity needs to understand that large corporations use our time only for their own enrichment. The more we are online, the less we participate in real life and in solving the real problems facing our world, whether it be pandemics or conflicts between countries.
Don't make a conclusion yet because simulated reality games are just starting.
And I believe, they can always get patrons for this type of game.
As many don't want to mingle with people in public, this game will get their niche in this gaming industry.
And also, just want to point out also that there are pros and cons of online casinos.
But people realize a lot of its benefits during this pandemic period, and some are still appreciating those benefits up until today.
The pandemic is close to an end and humanity will probably return to its usual way of life and communication between people.
However, now in Europe a new misfortune. You all know what I'm talking about. Alas, this seems to be a long time.
But I still think this process of getting out of the pandemic will reduce the use of online games and encourage people to participate in real games a little. And this is much more useful for live communication and for physical exertion on the body. It's good for health.
In general, it is time for humanity to stop immersion in virtual worlds, there are already too many of them.
And then AI will enslave all people and there will be peace, like in the movie "Matrix"
Is simulated realty games is different from player versus player games? like NBA 2k game, Tekken, Mortal Combat, etc? or was that games comes from third party provider? If it was from third party then we should not trust it. I usually filter this kind of game I am not sure why they include it in sports sometimes I get confused to it and place bet on those game.
It is definitely different, simulated reality games probably use a model or algorithm that's based on the actual stats of the teams but there's still randomness to it as certain models act differently to certain matchups. Esports is the other category you're referring to since it's based on a PvP format. Anyway, some bookies always have an SRL acronym at the end of the markets whenever they offer these types of games for pre live or live betting.
In sports they are usually called Simulated Reality Leagues, because they not only simulate individual games rather the whole leagues and many games in there. It's not real matches, they use historical data for the teams and matches, but the games itself are randomly generated. The biggest markets are football and cricket matches, you can check them out here:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/cricket/simulated-reality-league/matches/future
This is just betting on the games, it's not like you can watch the whole game on your TV. There can be graphical imagines of the games but they are all created after the games are simulated and only die illustration purposes. It must sound very strange to someone who hasn't heard about it before. There quite a lot of people really into that alternative reality games. It gives the opportunity to have many more games per week which would never be possible with real life players. We
https://sportsbet.io/sports/cricket/simulated-reality-league/matches/future
This is just betting on the games, it's not like you can watch the whole game on your TV. There can be graphical imagines of the games but they are all created after the games are simulated and only die illustration purposes. It must sound very strange to someone who hasn't heard about it before. There quite a lot of people really into that alternative reality games. It gives the opportunity to have many more games per week which would never be possible with real life players. We
Interesting. I have seen this at several bookmakers but didn't take it seriously as it looks like slot machines to me (purely psychologically). I would like to know if anyone has done research on how well these games match the real ones - are there such insane results that we sometimes see in reality or the spread of outcomes is smoother.
there were people who do really get interested on making out some bets out of these games considering that they arent live ones or basing up on historical data just like on whats been mentioned
above then it might be totally or 100% random in result where some people do find it out to be interesting.
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I personally hate Simulated Reality based games because they defy logic and the past data and are completely random. I have seen certain players losing to some opponents against whom they have never lost in real life.
Look, I am not against simulated gambling but they are charging the same house edge as of real sports and the gambling itself is more like casino where the result is random. Why would you play casino at such a high house edge? I would rather roll the dice at 1% house edge than bet on a simulated game that has the same mechanism but charges 8% or so house edge. Plus the casino game is at least provably fair while simulated is never fair not played in real.
I honestly agree with you, simulated reality can never be compared to real reality, aside all you've said, simulated reality games also appears really boring to me, because they are a direct opposite of what the real games are, this is one of the reasons I rather be in the stadium watching the match live than watch it on TV, I even wonder how simulated reality games became a form of sports. Look, I am not against simulated gambling but they are charging the same house edge as of real sports and the gambling itself is more like casino where the result is random. Why would you play casino at such a high house edge? I would rather roll the dice at 1% house edge than bet on a simulated game that has the same mechanism but charges 8% or so house edge. Plus the casino game is at least provably fair while simulated is never fair not played in real.
Simulated reality games are not a sports but they can be a collection of sports games. A real definition of sports is something that it is played on the real world. With that explanation of @stepwilli above, this will give gamblers a new reason to avoid this game. I feel bad for those who invented this game.
But people realize a lot of its benefits during this pandemic period, and some are still appreciating those benefits up until today.
Too bad too that this is a con for offline casinos, because their analogy style limits them from getting customers around the world, but the pro here is that, offline casinos are more enjoyable than online casinos, the only joy in online casino is when one wins a bet.
But in this, I still prefer reality over visual, this is one of the reasons I hate NFTs and will never buy them with my money, if you find an NFTs or NFTs in my wallet, know it I got them for free.
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