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Quote from: magneto on March 19, 2022, 06:42:57 PM

Quote from: bitbollo on March 19, 2022, 10:02:46 AM

What is your opinion?

These games are way too easily rigged or manipulated from the side of the operator, and I don't think that it is good for anyone to pursue them as a player.

The same goes for other computer generated game results from any of the online casinos.
There were always gonna be a possibility of a rig, but that only depends If these casinos are truthful to their "provably fair" service.
These simulated reality games/league has even compared and competed with actual sports betting, but I say no you cannot compare these 2, there's a huge difference, sports betting is way better than betting on simulated games.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on March 22, 2022, 09:00:51 PM

I’m not sure I’m a huge fan of them myself, but apparently this has been a big thing for a online casinos. Here’s some interesting info I found about them ..

Virtual Reality isn't the same as Simulated Reality games since OP is referring to sports betting and how some sportsbooks offer them as an alternative to betting on actual matches.

Simulated Reality is kind of similar to how some casinos have their own virtual horse racing game instead of offering actual odds from specific horse racing events.

Quote from: boyptc on March 21, 2022, 03:56:37 PM

So these types of games are just made by the operators and providers and there's no connection to the actual games of the sport that they're going to simulate?

Yup, it's basically like a replica but it's riskier knowing that there won't be much information available when placing bets. I remember placing a bet once and you can't even watch the actual simulation since there's no platform that streams the game so I only followed the game through the live feed.

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Believing or not believing in services is relative. If a gambler continues to use the service, even though he already knows that the provider can manipulate the services, he will not think too much about it.
After all, he finds the comfort factor in betting using the service.
I don't know the service because I don't use that type of bet and if I want to bet on sports betting, I will choose bets like gamblers in sports betting.
For the results of this type of bet, it may be arranged or predicted before the match starts because we don't know how the system works.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on March 22, 2022, 10:39:37 PM

If the simulated reality games are the same as the virtual reality use well it will bring a new kind of innovation and adaptation to the gambling world imagine having a virtual reality gambling game with other members but with this its not quite sure with the possibles games on it like how about the card game and slot games must be needed to be programmable in the gambling why though not just a casual game still required true money to play with this i guess in the future might be use this.

Several casino gabling just have an update with simulated reality games and they not really focus with virtual reality game, I think both kind between virtual reality games or simulated reality games if running by system better not have listed on gambling casino, I think will make beginner and newbie put their gambling on simulated or virtual reality games. Better have update kinds with games option looks as fun and will give interested to play although have to fill our fund but have several gambler they want getting funny when entry with gambling or casino.

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If the simulated reality games are the same as the virtual reality use well it will bring a new kind of innovation and adaptation to the gambling world imagine having a virtual reality gambling game with other members but with this its not quite sure with the possibles games on it like how about the card game and slot games must be needed to be programmable in the gambling why though not just a casual game still required true money to play with this i guess in the future might be use this.

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I’m not sure I’m a huge fan of them myself, but apparently this has been a big thing for a online casinos. Here’s some interesting info I found about them ..

“Virtual Reality: A Game Changer for Online Casinos
The gaming on Casino Sites is about to change, thanks to Virtual Reality. This technology has had a massive impact on online casinos, transforming them into gaming platforms with interactive and immersive experiences for gamers.

Although online and social gaming platforms have been around for years and can boast of loyal customer bases, Virtual Reality casinos are about overthrowing them and reducing their customers drastically”.

https://www.breakingtravelnews.com/focus/article/virtual-reality-a-game-changer-for-online-casinos/

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Quote from: harizen on March 22, 2022, 07:53:47 PM

Quote from: magneto on March 19, 2022, 06:42:57 PM

These games are way too easily rigged or manipulated from the side of the operator, and I don't think that it is good for anyone to pursue them as a player.

I don't think game providers will just throw dirt on their names by rigging those games. It's a game-changing environment and it doesn't mean they are totally non-sense or not worth trying. There's no difference when playing on supposed live casino games.

I will definitely try that. Who else doesn't want it?

But we have to understand that gambling is gambling. The risks of losing money are the same as usual gambling games.

If there will be rigging, people will come to know about it and this will ruin their reputation. A lot of people now know how to uncover potential cheating or rigging of the game. So they will talk if they will find out especially if they lost huge amount of money. It will always come out in the open. And once someone will publish valid proofs, that will be the end of their business. So if they are heavily invested on the project, I don't think it is in their best interest to rig a game which will be the reason of their downfall.

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Quote from: harizen on March 22, 2022, 07:53:47 PM

Quote from: magneto on March 19, 2022, 06:42:57 PM

These games are way too easily rigged or manipulated from the side of the operator, and I don't think that it is good for anyone to pursue them as a player.

I don't think game providers will just throw dirt on their names by rigging those games. It's a game-changing environment and it doesn't mean they are totally non-sense or not worth trying. There's no difference when playing on supposed live casino games.

I will definitely try that. Who else doesn't want it?

But we have to understand that gambling is gambling. The risks of losing money are the same as usual gambling games.

This seems to me to be something for the future as well. Basically it's something everyone wants, it gives a special feeling and special added value when you play something like this. As if you are really in a new world. If you can also do that in combination with gambling, then the possibilities are endless. There are already some games with this concept, but I have the idea that many players are not yet aware of it. You don't hear much about it on channels either.

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Quote from: magneto on March 19, 2022, 06:42:57 PM

These games are way too easily rigged or manipulated from the side of the operator, and I don't think that it is good for anyone to pursue them as a player.

I don't think game providers will just throw dirt on their names by rigging those games. It's a game-changing environment and it doesn't mean they are totally non-sense or not worth trying. There's no difference when playing on supposed live casino games.

I will definitely try that. Who else doesn't want it?

But we have to understand that gambling is gambling. The risks of losing money are the same as usual gambling games.

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Quote from: bitbollo on March 19, 2022, 10:02:46 AM

I frequently see these "simulated reality" games (SRI) listed together with conventional matches. Huh

As gambler I can think of a lot of questions...

Are these trusted services? Is the result already foreseen before a match or is it managed according to the bets?

The games are automated for SRI, so they are not managed according to bets...A gambler may or may not be lucky as regards the team he decides to put his bet on. You may decide team A, and the automation has already picked that team, you become lucky winning, if you however picked team A and the automation is going with B, you loose your money. So IMO, gambling on simulated games is an issue and a case of luck. As a matter of fact, my first gambling experience was on a simulated football game where i won, and the few persons who knew it was my first time termed it "beginners luck" because it was luck indeed. After that experience, i tried a couple of times and have long quit it because it was a series of losses for me the more i tried being intentional winning. In summary i will say that SRI games are randomised options and winning is based on luck.

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Quote from: bitbollo on March 19, 2022, 10:02:46 AM

What is your opinion?

I would not trust such simulations primarily for the following reason. Every match is not dry numbers that Artificial Intelligence can calculate. Each match is a state of health of the players, their physical form, their psychological mood and dozens of other factors that AI simply cannot calculate. Of course, if the teams are not equal in strength, then the AI can give the correct result. However, if the teams are approximately equal in strength, then no AI will be able to predict the result of the match with 100% probability.

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Quote from: PLayerZero14 on March 21, 2022, 06:03:06 PM

Can they be rigged ? probably not but i personally stay away from them.

From what they're saying, it can be. So if the casino itself provides the simulated games, if they've open source for its program then someone can review it thoroughly if it can be rigged or not. But usually with these programs, AFAIK, they're closed source so it's impossible to review.
I think it's fun to try these games until you start losing and you have to stop to avoid further losses and if it's like a virtual reality, do you mind spending for a device to test and see it happen?

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Quote from: Gozie51 on March 21, 2022, 11:14:28 AM

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The first time I got to know with sports gambling I was stuck in simulated reality games and placed bet almost 50$ seeing the odds given biggers, but it felt strange when I checked the flashcore site there were no football matches displayed there and realized that it was only simulated reality games. This should not be displayed on sports betting sites because it can be a trap, especially for beginners.

Really the simulation game is really confusing, something not realistic but visualized is really confusing and I think those who play the game are gamble addicts. I have heard gamblers discussing on it but yes checking on betting platforms for results you discover it doesn't involve real-life sports or game.

The final score depending with system want and can't predicting although choose as favorite team, better with simulated reality games move and deleted on several sport betting game because I think if not update with football match many gamble will play on this sport betting game. I don't know what reason should listed and make odds on simulated reality games because is not real and final result score is not depending about how favorite club and position standing place but many time result match always not logic with small team can win from bigger team.

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The simulated reality games which we can found in sports books right? I see that most of the time in Stake.com I am looking for a live match and see this game I didn't know at first that it is simulated I thought it was a real match (too dumb, I didn't read the word "simulated") the team where I placed the bet is winning I believe it 0-2 (after half game) and and place a bet on the winning team and after checking after time passed the game ends with 2-2 and yeah I lost it.

I am not sure if it is manipulated or not but I don't play simulated games after that. I don't even trust it.

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I would either just play live sports betting or provably fair games but not a simulated games since there's no way to prove that those games are not rigged or being manipulated by the provider. So it is better to stay away with those games rather than risking your money to it.

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What is a simulated reality games? you mean the virtual sports games? I played that before and got a addicted to it those I am not sure how fair their game was and I am not also sure if those games are fair at all but I win some times and lose sometimes and it came from other providers that the gambling site hires so it was like the table games and other casino games it still depends whether the provider is reputable or not.

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In my opinion, simulations of fighting with a man in uniform will lead to aggression. We need to change uniform education as soon as possible. A man without a uniform is nicer. It is always like that.

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Quote from: uneng on March 21, 2022, 05:52:40 PM

Well, just like provably fair casinos, there must be a way for simulated reality games' developers to prove the AI created by them is independent and not manipulable by any third party interferences. If there isn't anyway to make sure of this, the possibility of being scammed by the house is high, so it's not advised to get engaged with these games.

In the end it is a category of games which rely on luck, similar to the classic and traditional virtual gambling dice, slots, plinko, roulette games, as all of them have their results decided by an AI.

As long there's no way of verifying things out or simply with your bets then people wouldnt really be looking for this one to be interesting since we know that playing on a fair is much more appealing rather than on

dealing with something which is unverifiable thats why losing interest would be common and simply people would be looking for another places which they could see fairness.
So far i dont have experience about these simulated games but on what most people are describing then this is something not that interesting.

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Quote from: bitbollo on March 19, 2022, 10:02:46 AM

I frequently see these "simulated reality" games (SRI) listed together with conventional matches. Huh

As gambler I can think of a lot of questions...

Are these trusted services? Is the result already foreseen before a match or is it managed according to the bets?
Is there a single provider of these encounters or are there multiple services that provide this series of matches?

What is your opinion?

They basically just set up a private game with bots playing each other,people bet on them because its faster than for say waiting a full 90 min game.

Can they be rigged ? probably not but i personally stay away from them.

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Well, just like provably fair casinos, there must be a way for simulated reality games' developers to prove the AI created by them is independent and not manipulable by any third party interferences. If there isn't anyway to make sure of this, the possibility of being scammed by the house is high, so it's not advised to get engaged with these games.

In the end it is a category of games which rely on luck, similar to the classic and traditional virtual gambling dice, slots, plinko, roulette games, as all of them have their results decided by an AI.

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