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Topic: What is your opinions about simulated reality games? - page 6. (Read 1002 times)

legendary
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I think that in recent times, more and more casinos are starting to report their use of provable fairness algorithms. 
And this is where the question arises of how honest and unpredictable the evidence they use is. 
Maybe someone has already figured out how to prove honesty when the author of the proof himself knows that some subtleties are embedded in the algorithm, such that it seems to be 90% honest and 10%, as it were, not quite honest.Huh   Smiley
I dare to suggest that people are working on this topic, they also want to receive a guaranteed profit. Smiley
hero member
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There is no way you could verify those games are trusted or not. They are simulated games. They can be rigged any moment to favor the casino/provider. So, yeah, they are NOT trusted services. So if you want to play, you will have to trust them blindly.
Why do you have to bet on those simulated games when there are real live games/matches available? Or if you want to gamble,  just play on normal casino with normal games where you can verify all bets individually (provably fair).
I mean, it's just like how sports works, you can't exactly say for sure whether a game is rigged or not, so I guess we can give them the benefit of the doubt, though I do agree with just betting on live games instead if you really want to bet on sports games. Simulated games are just numbers fighting against each other, nothing more nothing else. Though if that's what you want, then go for it. I think it's more friendly in terms of actually relying on data when trying to predict the outcome.

legendary
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Ever have some one success got winning on simulated reality games? So far we have discuss about how running system with simulated reality games and many gambler ever stuck on this sport betting, will have possibility or chance winning on simulated reality game? I try several time actually played few minutes only but always failed to win and looks controlling by system what they want. I just play on several minutes before games ended but keep failure for winning.
I've seen others share their winning SRI bets on Stake but I never bothered asking their strategy since it's tough to come out on top or get an edge unlike with sports betting.

Imo there's no point in discussing the winning chances since it's a worse version of sports betting at the same time think of it as casino games and in casino games the longer you play the more you lose. It only becomes worth it when there's a promotion in place or there's more to it than just betting on the match.
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I frequently see these "simulated reality" games (SRI) listed together with conventional matches.  Huh
As gambler I can think of a lot of questions...

Are these trusted services? Is the result already foreseen before a match or is it managed according to the bets?
Is there a single provider of these encounters or are there multiple services that provide this series of matches?

What is your opinion?
There is no way you could verify those games are trusted or not. They are simulated games. They can be rigged any moment to favor the casino/provider. So, yeah, they are NOT trusted services. So if you want to play, you will have to trust them blindly.
Why do you have to bet on those simulated games when there are real live games/matches available? Or if you want to gamble,  just play on normal casino with normal games where you can verify all bets individually (provably fair).
hero member
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Ever have some one success got winning on simulated reality games? So far we have discuss about how running system with simulated reality games and many gambler ever stuck on this sport betting, will have possibility or chance winning on simulated reality game? I try several time actually played few minutes only but always failed to win and looks controlling by system what they want. I just play on several minutes before games ended but keep failure for winning.
We never know who has won in simulated reality games because maybe not many people use this type of game for various reasons. But if after you give it a try and find that the game looks like the system controls it, I don't think that there's going to be that many people who want to play in that game because if the system controls it, then that could be unfair because they can control every game. I've never tried it and seeing as you have, I don't seem interested in trying it.
legendary
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I am referring to simulated games managed by bookmakers / betting sites, not so much to generic games.
anyway thank you for the video, I've never seen games like this Smiley
sr. member
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What is your opinion?
It's still on the speculation side if I'll be asked. As the abbreviation implies it's still a simulation wherein players are just being simulated on how the play will goes though we never know how the play would went well. It's still not worth it compare to your own instinct of trusting what could be right when you provide that bet.
Just watch it out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FcKhI1W9r0
This is simulation games to learn up real world skills which is something to be more useful rather than on focusing on applying it on gambling.
When it comes to interest then there are indeed some gamblers who do really love on dealing with simulated reality games
although having that sports betting is much more interesting imho.
hero member
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Ever have some one success got winning on simulated reality games? So far we have discuss about how running system with simulated reality games and many gambler ever stuck on this sport betting, will have possibility or chance winning on simulated reality game? I try several time actually played few minutes only but always failed to win and looks controlling by system what they want. I just play on several minutes before games ended but keep failure for winning.
hero member
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What is your opinion?
It's still on the speculation side if I'll be asked. As the abbreviation implies it's still a simulation wherein players are just being simulated on how the play will goes though we never know how the play would went well. It's still not worth it compare to your own instinct of trusting what could be right when you provide that bet.
legendary
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I'm not a fan of these things, though it gives you a better picture on how probabilities unfold and help reach a certain conclusion by letting things play out by themselves. Normally one would assume that these games already have the outcome before it is shown to other bettors, but there will always be auditors on these games in order to verify the veracity and integrity of the games being shown. Anyway, why would you bet on algorithms pushing numbers to play on their own instead of betting on real people doing the real sport?
sr. member
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No matter how smart artificial intelligence and machine learning has proven to advance in the gambling sector it's reality games leagues is still not a complete luck trial. This is just an advance technology of real-life football experience that is still open to manipulative works and since it has a central control so nothing is perfect about the system
hero member
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I made the same mistake once! I saw familiar teams playing and I placed a bet, only after placing a bet it came to my brain "it was not the right time for that (it was in the morning hours), and then I realized that I placed a bet on some simulated reality game! Well, since then I pay more attention, and I guess you are right that beginners often make this kind of mistake, at least once!
By the way, except LoL, I don't follow and bet on anything else connected with esports! I still like "the old way", betting on real sports, more attractive!
That's a common mistake that a newbie can make because they are completely new to it and they don't have an idea if there are difference between the actual sports bet and the simulated reality games but once get the hang of it they will now realize that the two games are not completely the same.

You must be thankful if you placed your first bet on simulated reality games because you will have an experience with it while others that know sports betting first before this game, will never try betting on it because to them it can look weird and they won't risk money on something that they are not familiar with. If this is not displayed on sports betting site then where should they placed it? But better if they make a category to avoid confusion.
sr. member
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I frequently see these "simulated reality" games (SRI) listed together with conventional matches.  Huh
As gambler I can think of a lot of questions...

Are these trusted services? Is the result already foreseen before a match or is it managed according to the bets?
Is there a single provider of these encounters or are there multiple services that provide this series of matches?

What is your opinion?

I don't think these simulation games are totally trustworthy because it seems that simulated games can be easily manipulated and controlled by the operator, unless they declare they are running on provably fair which I suppose, they aren't. Since these games are run with the help of artificial intelligence, it would be much accessible to bypass. The feeling of entertainment and excitement won't be elevated as much too because there's a difference between playing in actual in virtual or in simulation.

If you really want to experience, you could try and then decide from your first-hand experience. It's still much better to figure it on your own to know if it's worth it or not. Just be vigilant in choosing and in betting.
hero member
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It will feel weird if we use tools that support Virtual Reality because it's like we're watching an adult movie without anyone else knowing what we're doing Grin

If AI has been implemented and can be easily accessed by gamblers, there is a possibility that gamblers can ask the winning percentage of each team or player so that they can choose correctly. AI will calculate all existing calculations, collect data from various sources, and give us the final result. It will save us time in searching for valid information.
hero member
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Even though in a real game there may be contractual relationships between teams and players, which sometimes of course happens and then causes scandals, such competitions are certainly less predictable than those that
AI can present.  I would never bet at all when you are essentially playing with a computer, which, as you know, is unlikely to be beaten in the long run. 
After all, the one who wrote these programs is not an idiot, to lose, unless he begins to write such algorithms, this is completely out of the question. 
Well, in general: AI is disguised programs, which anyway were once made by specific programmers.

I agree that betting against AI is not a good idea. There can be some manipulation by the AI to guarantee a 100% winrate in the long run. Te only form of getting that could work is if the simulated games are fully random and don't offer any edges for AI of the players. This is hard to verify because the company could just say their games are fair and the AI has no influence. Another approach could be to only let the AI simulate the games but don't actually take part in the betting. The only bets could come from humans. Here it needs to be verified that no human can have access to proprietary data and use it for exploiting. Randomness seems like the best approach again. Having games with 50/50 chances makes it fair for anybody. And the casinos then just takes a small fee from the games for their operating costs. Overall I think that these simulated games remain a smaller market. People prefer to watch and bet live sports.
hero member
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I have never bet on sports in simulated reality because I don't really trust the artificial intelligence that generates the events of the game. Instead I choose to bet on real matches where a lot depends on the players, the coach and the strategy of the game.

Moreover, I believe that sports in simulated reality are more susceptible to control by the artificial intelligence creators.

The level of confidence upon seeing the result is truly different since its looks like they can manipulate the result on simulated reality that's why I always doubt to bet on this if there's someone offering such betting option, so same as you I always prefer to bet on real time matches since we can see the fairness on the game and even if we lost the result is satisfying.
legendary
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I have never bet on sports in simulated reality because I don't really trust the artificial intelligence that generates the events of the game. Instead I choose to bet on real matches where a lot depends on the players, the coach and the strategy of the game.

Moreover, I believe that sports in simulated reality are more susceptible to control by the artificial intelligence creators.
Even though in a real game there may be contractual relationships between teams and players, which sometimes of course happens and then causes scandals, such competitions are certainly less predictable than those that
AI can present.  I would never bet at all when you are essentially playing with a computer, which, as you know, is unlikely to be beaten in the long run. 
After all, the one who wrote these programs is not an idiot, to lose, unless he begins to write such algorithms, this is completely out of the question. 
Well, in general: AI is disguised programs, which anyway were once made by specific programmers.
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I frequently see these "simulated reality" games (SRI) listed together with conventional matches.  Huh
I think these games need to be always separated to avoid confusing the punter from the real games and stimulated ones...

As gambler I can think of a lot of questions...

Are these trusted services? Is the result already foreseen before a match or is it managed according to the bets?
Is there a single provider of these encounters or are there multiple services that provide this series of matches?

What is your opinion?
I think this is something that we all have because we really don't know if the match is fixed and the bad part is they might give a picture of one team being a favorite but in fact it's not as there isn't much data to use to rely on past performance.
legendary
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I have never bet on sports in simulated reality because I don't really trust the artificial intelligence that generates the events of the game. Instead I choose to bet on real matches where a lot depends on the players, the coach and the strategy of the game.

Moreover, I believe that sports in simulated reality are more susceptible to control by the artificial intelligence creators.
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I frequently see these "simulated reality" games (SRI) listed together with conventional matches.  Huh
As gambler I can think of a lot of questions...

Are these trusted services? Is the result already foreseen before a match or is it managed according to the bets?
Is there a single provider of these encounters or are there multiple services that provide this series of matches?

What is your opinion?
Simulated reality game? The word itself seems new for me, I know the simulation games also there are lot of popular games like battle field games but if its against the preprogrammed opponent then I won't trust it. If you like the game the play but betting on it is not really trustworthy.
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