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newbie
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November 20, 2018, 11:44:04 AM
Except oil and weapon, what things does Russian really have?
We all see that Russian is really weak in recently oil price crash.
The exchange rate of ruble and the inflation in Russian as follow the  oil price crash imply that Russian is just a third - rate country who depends on selling cheap resources.
After the Soviet Union collapsed, the Economic of Russian growth just benefit from the oil price risen.


Is this your IMHO, or you can prove it somehow? Economy growth grafs are open source information. So learn it well before writing such things. And Russia except oil and weapon has over a half of all the natural resources on Earth.
newbie
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November 20, 2018, 11:21:45 AM
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June 15, 2015, 11:50:37 PM
What they don't have?
I look at Russia as the most advanced country.You will get to know about Russia's resources at the time of world war3

It seems you are waiting for WW3. Russia will show its might, America will too, and so will China. But it will be the common people dying out there in the show of the mightiest. So let's not get into WW3 discussions. Peace  Smiley Smiley

Actually, final nuclear exchange between East and West would mirror much, much older event, when venerable Sassanid empire and Romans bled each other out for decades.

Guess, who swallowed resulting wasteland back then?



Power vacuum is all fundamentalist needs to fulfill his dreams...

http://what-is-is.blogspot.cz/2014/06/war-nerd-isis-is-conquering-empty.html
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hyperboria - next internet
June 15, 2015, 11:20:12 PM
As far as I have seen, Russia has extremely cold weather to live in. Hats-off to people who are still living in such a cold atmosphere with limited resources. And of course, they poses few of the best minds of the world. The minds who created Mig-21s, which were the best in the world when first built.

Climat in russia is pretty much same as in Canada. Plus Russia is a big country. So there is zones with relatively good climate. Crimea, for example =)
legendary
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June 15, 2015, 09:30:41 PM
As far as I have seen, Russia has extremely cold weather to live in.

Russia is the largest country in the world in terms of surface area. Not all the regions of Russia are cold and uninhabitable. There are some regions with sub-tropical climate, such as Crimea and Krasnodar. But I have to agree that the majority of Russia (in terms of area) falls within the Siberian region, where the climate is unbearable (except for the Russians).
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be your self
June 15, 2015, 01:12:46 PM
What they don't have?
I look at Russia as the most advanced country.You will get to know about Russia's resources at the time of world war3

It seems you are waiting for WW3. Russia will show its might, America will too, and so will China. But it will be the common people dying out there in the show of the mightiest. So let's not get into WW3 discussions. Peace  Smiley Smiley
legendary
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June 15, 2015, 01:02:16 PM
As far as I have seen, Russia has extremely cold weather to live in.

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June 15, 2015, 12:32:49 PM
As far as I have seen, Russia has extremely cold weather to live in. Hats-off to people who are still living in such a cold atmosphere with limited resources. And of course, they poses few of the best minds of the world. The minds who created Mig-21s, which were the best in the world when first built.
legendary
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June 15, 2015, 12:11:52 PM
What they don't have?
I look at Russia as the most advanced country.You will get to know about Russia's resources at the time of world war3

I'd prefer not to. Wink
That's why such displays as this are welcome:
http://ladarayinfo.weebly.com/esr4.html
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June 15, 2015, 11:50:44 AM
What they don't have?
I look at Russia as the most advanced country.You will get to know about Russia's resources at the time of world war3
legendary
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June 15, 2015, 09:51:21 AM
Let's leave aside your name and the fact that you are seemingly from senegal, yet pretend to speak for the russian people Smiley

Leaving aside the wall of text (some of which I agree with, some of which is historically inaccurate), I, as an ethnic Russian, find this line as the most objectionable in what you wrote. What gives you the right to deny him the right to speak for the Russian people?

I didn't noticed the comment from this AJMax guy, as he is on my ignore list.

That said, it is funny that a noob who is registered less than two weeks ago in this forum badmouthing against an experienced poster. Okurkabinladin is from the European Union, and he is quite knowledgeable about Russia.

On the other hand, the other guy seems to have some serious issues. Check this:

Maybe obama should consider diversifying his family first by impregnating sweet little sasha with some non-black seed Cheesy Keep the impregnation video as a souvenir to his diversity agenda.
legendary
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June 15, 2015, 08:45:30 AM
Let's leave aside your name and the fact that you are seemingly from senegal, yet pretend to speak for the russian people Smiley

Leaving aside the wall of text (some of which I agree with, some of which is historically inaccurate), I, as an ethnic Russian, find this line as the most objectionable in what you wrote. What gives you the right to deny him the right to speak for the Russian people?

I don't know if he is ethnically Russian or has connections to Russia. I don't care. If he feels Russian at heart and what he says is factually correct, than he can speak on behalf of Russians.

Russian Federation is a common home of over 200 ethnic groups and nationalities speaking over 100 languages and dialects. You don't have to be ethnically Russian to be Russian. You need to identify with the Russian culture and  be able to live peacefully under the same roof with other peoples. And that's the key.
Russia has hundreds of years of experience with a functioning multi-ethnical, mutli-confessional, multi-cultural society. Everything that Europe tries and fails to emulate and preaches to Russia (what an irony).

Russian Minister of Defence, Shojgu is ethnic Tuvan. The Mayor of Moscow Sobjanin is part-Mansi, part-Ural Cossack. The Foreign Minister of the Russian Federation Lavrov is part-Georgian.

So, you see, when speaking about "Russian people", being from Senegal is not an excluding criteria.

PS: He claims to hark to Czech Republic, so I don't know where you got Senegal from... Fail again?
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June 15, 2015, 06:54:31 AM
Except oil and weapon, what things does Russian really have?
We all see that Russian is really weak in recently oil price crash.
The exchange rate of ruble and the inflation in Russian as follow the  oil price crash imply that Russian is just a third - rate country who depends on selling cheap resources.
After the Soviet Union collapsed, the Economic of Russian growth just benefit from the oil price risen.


Russians have good nuclear weapons that I have heard Smiley
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June 15, 2015, 06:10:47 AM
Chinese as reliable and honest? LOL
Well, there are few examples from my own experience. As far I remember, I had no problem with chinese and japanese sellers... On the other hand, some part of our close western neighbours (you know whom I mean) are repeatedly trying to fool everyone. That's why I'm trying to have no business with them if there are other options.

As far as Chinese people are concerned, they really are hard working people. Chinese that I have encountered, I've seen them as dedicated and honest to their work.
Generalizing is something we shouldn't be doing though, you can judge a race or community based on the actions of a few.
legendary
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June 15, 2015, 05:28:26 AM
I have read an article where it says that Putin has about 800 cars, 40+ Aeroplanes, 20 Ships, and his assets are worth $20billion  Huh

I have also read an article which says that Obama has 4 wives and 40 children. Should I believe that?

If Putin is really having 40 aircraft and 20 ships, they must be the invisible ones. Becasue no one in Russia has seen them. And regarding Putin's net worth, Bill Browder once claimed that it amounts to $200 billion. You can add one more zero, and make it $2,000 billion ($2 trillion).
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June 15, 2015, 04:55:00 AM
Vodka, Missiles, Army, Poor People, Rich people, Extremely Rich people, Filthy Rich People and then there is Putin  Grin I have read an article where it says that Putin has about 800 cars, 40+ Aeroplanes, 20 Ships, and his assets are worth $20billion  Huh
legendary
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June 15, 2015, 04:33:17 AM
May be of interest (in the light of the general information blockade of Russia): http://innovation.gov.ru/ Wink

Heard of LHC of CERN? Some parts were built in Russia.
Heard of American Atlas V rocket? Its engines are Russian RD-180.


Yes .... And All Russian rockets have more then 75% of USA electronic ....

Perhaps you will beleive it as this is from Russian media LoL

http://svpressa.ru/economy/article/124761/

newbie
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June 14, 2015, 02:44:50 PM
You mention instances where west initiated invasions of russia - but putting nazi's aside (ones that entirety of the west banded together to eliminate), rest are by products of middle ages and factors that went along with it - religion, primarily.

No one today is expecting the pontiff of rome or, by some bizarre reasoning, protestant groups to initiate a crusade to purge the 'heretics' of russian orthodoxy. This is actually a factor that is overshadowed when people speak of west-russian rivalry. Major historical source of enmity is gone.

More importantly, no western country wanted or succeeded in subjugating or ruling over russia and russian people for a simple reason: Their actions are primarily motivated by wariness of a large, imposing russian nation right on their borders with far greater manpower than any single or group of smaller european nation. This does not justify the invasions - but I am sure russians understand the sentiment of wariness that comes with having a potential threat on their borders to say the least.

AFAIK, west banded together against Reich only after United States were directly challenged by Nazi Germany, german war machine wouldnt be able to start working in the first place, if not for western money and support - as bulwark against "eastern threat". You are quick to dismiss countless invasions and millions of dead Slavs, Kalmyks, Tatars, Caucasians and even Jews to "old mistakes". Yet geopolitics never changes and you perfectly described why. Russia is still considered too large and too strong, it will never be accepted as a partner unless it is depopulated and teritorially dissected first. US politicians are not even hiding it and as late as in the nineties, they found enough collaborators, traitors and naive idealists, who nearly made it happen. It is irrelevant how you will judge Putin - you are outsider. What matter is, that every person that stayed in the coutry understands, that without his aides and master plan, there would be no Russia today. Just more easily replaceable slaves, cheap resources and markets, that the west urgently needs.

You can speculate about it as much as you want, but even your diction betrays you. At no point, did you ask the question: What do the Russians/Other side/Partners want. You only mention what THEY MUST DO.

Ending of eternal rivalry between China, Russia and Iran wasnt brought about by mutual sympathies, but by instict of self-preservation in the last decades. Otherwise, Russia would be isolated, crushed and dissected. West has no use for Russia besides cheap resource and labor base - in fact look around this very topic, many members even here see the country exactly as that and its industrous people as little more, than talking apes. Thanks, but no thanks, this is not how friends speak of each other.

That doesnt mean US and Russia have to be enemies.

Just. Leave. Us. Finally. Alone.

http://caravantomidnight.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/nato-russia-war.jpg

Let's leave aside your name and the fact that you are seemingly from senegal, yet pretend to speak for the russian people Smiley

What you say regarding how 'US financed third reich' is the same tired old tripe of anti-US blame game based on impulse to mouth off at the perceived enemy (the EVIL west) using whatever excuse you can fabricate to your liking to justify such childish thoughts. Anyone can see that. Bullsht transcends cultural and racial boundaries, as you have just amply demonstrated. By same logic, I can blame the russians or chinese for how africa and south America is today due to their inordinate amount of 'aid' given while masquerading under the guise of 'socialist solidarity' 'anti imperialism' while they themselves have (and still!) are siphoning off resources and using those people to their liking with full willing compliance of blind fools who think as you do. Many of those regimes who received such 'help' wound up being authoritarian socialist dictatorships that exploit their people in ways capitalists could only wish for. All while you manipulate and cajole locals with sweet talks of false empowerment that in the end turns against the most disadvantaged in their own country first and foremost.

Also, your attempts at twisting my words by saying I am 'disregarding' past actions as 'old mistakes' also reveals, by your own diction, a severely crippling bias from a very disrespectful viewpoint that inherently seeks to antagonize and start sht. I have specifically acknowledged the invasions and details of the crimes committed against the russian people - yet I have also addressed why such things differ from the threats russia faces from the south and the east, and why russia hopefully could come around to understanding that while they are fully justified in asking for acknowledgement of the past, it is counter productive and misunderstood action to believe that the west is either willing or wanting to 'enslave' russia.

You also place the lion's share of the blame for russia's post cold war crisis on the west once again - conveniently forgetting that local and border straddling criminals were instrumental in taking advantage of russia's momentary weakness and tearing apart their social fabric to the point where it faced an existential crisis. It is true that west sought to take advantage and some what attempted to 'subjugate' russia, or rather blunt its sharp edges to the point where it would be turned into something close to a vassal state - yet you might be surprised to find out that once such initiatives were planned and actually attempted to get off the ground, many people found out that russia didn't need any help in screwing itself over in ways that those EVIL imperialists could only dream of. In the end, west expanded its influence but I don't know how anyone could try to fabricate the idea that west wanted to goosestep march down to kremlin or invade russian borders. West has not invaded russia when it would have been ideal to do so - I doubt that same would have been true if the tables were turned. The talk about 'depopulation' and 'enslavement' doesn't even merit a response - if you want to keep trying to paint another as villain, you would do well to not speak from fantasies that serve to further fabricate your already full self-masturbatory lies. West could scarcely have taken advantage of russia more than how much they screwed themselves over, and frankly as long as russia didn't remain a threat, no one was pipe dreaming of conquering russia or 'enslaving' it population. If you keep talking about how it is 'enslavement' to maybe, just maybe deviate a little from 'my way or high way' attitude, than it is obvious that ANYTHING is capable of being villainized  as 'oppression'. Your vast fantasy of 'western conspiracy against russia' is childish finger pointing at best - its fake sense of insight revealing more about what you don't know and don't want to know, better than what you supposedly know.

You presume to tell me what my 'diction' tells you, while fully revealing your intention to merely twist my words according to your own perceptions into what fits your view point. I have addressed what both russia AND west must do, despite their misgivings regarding the necessary actions involved. What MUST BE is often different from what one wants, and having a big heart and backbone to follow through with doing what needs to be done must be applied equally on both parties. The basic mentality of the west is that Russia, being proud or otherwise, is something they can live with - however, your tone betrays a sense of wounded aggressor's sentiment that you are trying to mask - defeated aggression as 'victims of oppression' since you are clearly unwilling to accept that anyone aside from yourself could be on equally strong standing both on cultural, psychological, and racial level. West is confident and secure in its own identity and values - something that people with your kind of mentality clearly cannot stand. At the very least, it is very similar to putting a bucket of ice next to a fireplace and complaining that it melts - and therefore the fireplace is evil. At best, it is patently naive and ignorant - most likely it is a punishable offense due to the kind of disrespect it displays in its patent disregard for others, and mouthy disrespect it represents. At that point, your own attitude almost seem to justify actions of third reich in regards to jews or russians, russian actions in chechnya, or  the slavery of africans by arabs.

I consider the facts of what needs to be done, and accept that regardless of west or russia, they must both conduct themselves beyond their immediate wants and impulses to come to a common ground and understanding. The fact that you believe you are doing told what to do (you aren't even russian but that's somehow beside the point) so reflexively and childishly, while completely disregarding the fact that the other side is also making efforts to accommodate russian situation reveals a clear hostile intent that requires retaliation. There is only so far anyone can go to accommodate for the sake of negotiations.

In the end, what is needed is destruction of mindless hostile attitude and unwillingness to face the truth of the matter, both in west and russia. What both sides needs is true strength to establish their respective positons, and come to see eye to eye enough that they could at least consider each other associates. West can live with the fact that russia will eye us with suspicion and a bit of necessary hostility of one nation state against another - west fully acknowledges russian will and identity that has carried it thus far. However, russia cannot seem to acknowledge or respect west (or anyone) to the necessary degree that only a strong sense of self-confidence and innate strength can provide - russia always seem to go out of its way to throw a fit no matter where in the world west conducts its business, even within our own borders. In essence, it gives a strong impression that they cannot be comfortable unless they are somehow able to control or influence the actions of another on their own terms ONLY.  

I base my observations, actions, and supposed 'assumptions' on your attitude and tone, plus the facts of the world as they are. If the west was truly trying to enslave, invade, or otherwise act as an outright aggressor, there is little reason to pass up chances in history that it did - and with fully knowledge of the potential benefits of such actions were it actually acting as an imperialist in its genuine form. The inherent sense of aggression and arrogance present in hearts of men and women are corrected, disciplined, and directed by a greater sense of purpose and standards in the west far more than other parts of the world - hence its reluctance to commit itself fully to fascism or genocide, unlike mongolic empire, african empires and its treatments of mass enslavement of those they conquered, or the arab muslim world and their continued slavery practice that still exists today in barely concealed form in the millions of indentured servants. I do not need to invent fanciful self-rationalizing story of 'intent to enslave' while it is clear that slavery and oppression exists in far greater quantity, both openly and covertly, outside of the western world. Also, as ridiculous as it sounds, the fact is those who aligned with the west by majority came out as winners from the cold war, while the other camp mostly came out impoverished, weak, confused, and in desperate straits of political instability. This is simply due to the fact that western approach and basic mentailty isn't quite as oppressive or imperialistic as you fantasize (primarily to find a convenient target to blame, while eagerly praising your own dictators and actual oppressors practically kneeling before them to suck them off like a slave). Next time you feel you can run your mouth about such things, you are advised to watch yourself well. Offense committed is not easily forgotten.

Did west commit crimes of mass murder, conquest, and invasions? Yes. Did the rest of the world do the same, even worse, and has the disrespectful attitude to not even acknowledge their greater crimes while today trying to manipulate western values to conveniently paint the west as villains while impudently acting as if they are victims? Absolutely.

World is in no potion to lecture west about morality or crimes, and would do well to remember that it is a double edged sword no matter who is wielding it.

Russians need to learn to live with the fact that west is west, just as west should fully acknowledge russia as being russia, and both sides need to stop fcking with each other with disinformation and tit for tat game that is ultimately counterproductive. Lastly, world has no need to delusional fools who dream themselves the new revolutionaries when they are just common children looking for easy way out. I intend to fully impose the standards of productive initiative on myself and ask others to do the same for themselves, regardless of respective differences in situations or outlook - for common standard and agreement is the foundation of understanding and destruction of ignorance. The world, however, has even greater degree of ignorance to work through than the west, and amusingly enough has managed to convince itself otherwise while trying to vilify the west for all their problems. This will eventually lead to a very brutal and destructive war, and I guarantee you that west as no intention of letting any such criminals who try to fck with its people to live on the face of the planet - as would be expected of any decent human being when faced with ignorant behavior and unwarranted attitudes.




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June 14, 2015, 12:43:22 PM
Culture, architecture, food, DRINKS, sports, special events, Russian dolls, sexy women and gangsters.

When you say DRINKS, I hope you mean this:


http://www.ochakovo.ru/en/kvass

Because that's a traditional Russian drink. And it's delicious.

And this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mors_%28drink%29

For stronger stuff, Russians drank mjod (honey ale - mjod is a Russian word for "honey")

For vodka, you have to look further north, to the former Russian lands of Finland. Wink

Distilled honey (called "med" in my place) is absolutely delicious!
legendary
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June 14, 2015, 11:14:52 AM
Culture, architecture, food, DRINKS, sports, special events, Russian dolls, sexy women and gangsters.

When you say DRINKS, I hope you mean this:


http://www.ochakovo.ru/en/kvass

Because that's a traditional Russian drink. And it's delicious.

And this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mors_%28drink%29

For stronger stuff, Russians drank mjod (honey ale - mjod is a Russian word for "honey")

For vodka, you have to look further north, to the former Russian lands of Finland. Wink
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