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newbie
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December 18, 2018, 10:52:18 PM
#47
Looks like many economies around the world are going to be suffering major downfalls around 2030. The demographic pyramid is completely fucked up in many countries, with locals not having kids because basically millennial cannot afford to live on their own due low wages and high cost of living. In Europe it's all over the place. What grinds my gears is economists saying immigration is the solution and they will pay our retirement funds. This is insanity.

Anyway, do you have a portfolio that makes you comfortable about the future? we are definitely on our own so be sure to have some passive source of income for the future. Hopefully Bitcoin saves our ass and by 2030 we don't have to worry about money anymore.
what we can do is welcome digitizing by preparing ourselves, because the future of 2030 is very diverse, each country has a different fate, for countries in Asia the economy may be very good, seeing abundant natural resources and human resources are also very a lot, maybe the future of the world economy will move to Asia, and the bitcoin currency is also developing very well in Asia, so the future can be very good.
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December 18, 2018, 10:37:45 PM
#46
We don't know what will happen in the future. What if we are not around anymore by that year. Always expect the unexpected. 2030 is far beyond. So lets do all the things we can do to earn good profit before the crisis comes.
Yes, it's true, we don't know whether our age will arrive or not in 2030, because 2030 will still be around 12 years left. So I can't speculate for the future, let everything flow naturally. Because the future is a very big mystery.
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December 18, 2018, 10:31:37 PM
#45
IF i say now then it will be unrealistic and in 2030 i have so many plans to do at that time and for now i want to make money because in future for businesses i will need more money for establishing of new businesses and i can buy an established businesses as well.
of course I will do it too, build a business, where maybe 2030 I have run a business as a result of diversifying cryptocurrency, and of course I still hold bitcoin as an investment


 WOW.. What a speculation toward the future...2030?  Yes, i would agree with to have a second source of income for our future. yes we are on our own by ourself. But, one thing should we have to take into consideration.. Our Health... Can we be sure that our investment for our future would be for for us??? A long term investment should be taken more seriously. Nobody knows about our life if we did not take care of it. some people only take on day to today bases... thats a good plan though.good luck guys.
legendary
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December 18, 2018, 10:13:14 PM
#44
Looks like many economies around the world are going to be suffering major downfalls around 2030. The demographic pyramid is completely fucked up in many countries, with locals not having kids because basically millennial cannot afford to live on their own due low wages and high cost of living. In Europe it's all over the place. What grinds my gears is economists saying immigration is the solution and they will pay our retirement funds. This is insanity.

Anyway, do you have a portfolio that makes you comfortable about the future? we are definitely on our own so be sure to have some passive source of income for the future. Hopefully Bitcoin saves our ass and by 2030 we don't have to worry about money anymore.

You are right about this.I refuse to have kids,because of the high prices and low wages.Getting a job is harder than before and the cost of living always goes up.However,I'm glad I paid off my student debt and I don't have any mortgage or debt.I will hope that bitcoin will hit 50-90K USD around 2030 and I will keep my bitcoins untill then.

I would like to have kids myself, but im also forced to not take that life changing decision because it's simply impossible to do it. The costs of living would go through the roof. It's difficult sustaining myself, imagine I also had to take care of a family. If I was reckless I would do it, but if you want to be able to save money and form a capital it's just not feasible.

And what's even more infuriating is that since we aren't having kids, the government blames us for not having kids and screwing up the demographic pyramid, and their proposed solution is to bring immigrants. We are basically being replaced by cheap hand labour.
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December 18, 2018, 05:20:43 PM
#43
We don't know what will happen in the future. What if we are not around anymore by that year. Always expect the unexpected. 2030 is far beyond. So lets do all the things we can do to earn good profit before the crisis comes.
legendary
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December 18, 2018, 04:32:43 PM
#42
What would you expect to happen? Wink
I'm not sure. It would be nice if the system would reach a certain equilibrium at some point, instead of needing a war or a plague to reset and start over.
legendary
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December 18, 2018, 04:22:13 PM
#41
Isn't a more fundamental cause of the problem the fact that "money" earns more money than "work"? It just keeps spiralling down, meaning you have to work more and more to be able to afford the same things, making it less and less likely to become wealthy, while the ones who are wealthy already see their fortune increase without working for it.
Over the years, I've seen many documentaries about this, and they all conclude the same thing: it's a bad thing for the country as a whole if a few people own almost everything, and that's exactly what's happening.

That's how our economic system is intended to work. It's the end result of capitalism: concentration of capital.

We have two general groups in society: those who collect rent/profit/interest, and those who pay rent/interest and work for wages. One side constantly accumulates more capital without working. The other side constantly has their capital extracted from them.

What would you expect to happen? Wink
sr. member
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December 18, 2018, 03:59:14 PM
#40
In my opinion. I will continue to invest and develop the economy in accordance with the times. so that by 2030, I will still be able to compete according to the economy that has developed in that year. so that I can adapt and be able to compete with all technological developments in the economic field.
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December 18, 2018, 03:47:41 PM
#39
To me, it is a cyclic process. At certain time interval there will be ups and downs. It can be in the development sector, economy or anything else. Now the entire world market including our cryptocurrencies were experiencing a great down fall. Even though we're recovering slowly, it isn't promised. With this, we need to be prepared to face uncertainty. Possibly with the adoption of blockchain all around 2030 will be growth associated.
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December 18, 2018, 03:25:14 PM
#38
I think before long there will have to be some sort of incentive in most of Europe for people to have children.

Pay fair wages in secure jobs. Make property affordable.

Since the powers that be have no interest in that, and indeed they're actively incentivised to reduce wages, decrease security and make a roof less affordable, then the decline is inevitable.

They'll eventually pay a massive price for that, and they're starting to now with all the political upheaval, but the people who are doing it now will be dead or counting their money by then so they won't care.

I do appreciate how this went from a mostly not too interesting thread to an interesting conversation about a slightly different topic. Being from the UK I can't comment as precisely about the situation in other countries but I imagine it is not too different. I've seen such alarming statistics about the rise in house prices and their affordability. But within the mainstream media and the political spectrum there is little sympathy for young people, people are stuck in their own era and are too quick to point to laziness instead of realising that times have changed and the younger generations of today work equally as hard, they're just not afforded the same situations.

From a biological point of view the long term effects could be damning, or potentially beneficial in some ways (although I don't agree with that). If you assume only the most skilled and capable people are able to earn enough to support themselves and a family then the global gene pool should strength. Of course that is if you think everyone has a level playing field which is in my opinion far from the truth.

The main difficulty with population control is that governments tend to act in a reactionary capacity instead of being pro-active. But it doesn't take a genius to see that something such as population isn't going to change over night, it takes time for the full effects to be seen.

sr. member
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December 18, 2018, 03:13:43 PM
#37
Looks like many economies around the world are going to be suffering major downfalls around 2030. The demographic pyramid is completely fucked up in many countries, with locals not having kids because basically millennial cannot afford to live on their own due low wages and high cost of living. In Europe it's all over the place. What grinds my gears is economists saying immigration is the solution and they will pay our retirement funds. This is insanity.

Anyway, do you have a portfolio that makes you comfortable about the future? we are definitely on our own so be sure to have some passive source of income for the future. Hopefully Bitcoin saves our ass and by 2030 we don't have to worry about money anymore.

In the first place, there are some other altcoins in the market in my assessment that are much more good investment rather than bitcoin. Although, it is true bitcoin was the main top of it in terms of its highest value, but for having a profit of bitcoin in the near future is I think through crypto we can have a chance to gain a lot of bitcoins.
legendary
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December 18, 2018, 01:09:44 PM
#36
Automation largely increased industrial production, and yet, we're all working more than ever! Why didn't we lower it to 4 hour working days for one partner, instead of having both partners work full time?

Again, I'm very thankful that I am in a job that is both (until technology becomes way more advanced) immune to automation and will literally always be in demand. The downside to that being that unfortunately people get sick 24/7, and so moving to a 4 hour workday is unlikely at best. Grin
legendary
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December 18, 2018, 11:54:10 AM
#35
It just keeps spiralling down, meaning you have to work more and more to be able to afford the same things
This is the crux of the matter. A couple of generations ago it was commonplace for only one member of a household to work. It was completely feasible to afford a mortgage and living expenses for a family (which generally had more children than families do now) on one salary, while the other adult in the household stayed at home.
I'd like to say: "What happened?" Shocked Automation largely increased industrial production, and yet, we're all working more than ever! Why didn't we lower it to 4 hour working days for one partner, instead of having both partners work full time? Is it the magical "economic growth" that we somehow seem to need for no reason whatsoever?
legendary
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December 18, 2018, 11:50:08 AM
#34
It is a difficulty question considering I don't know what to do tomorrow. However, if I were to guess, I had a great life thanks to crypto and had a blast for couple years and now that the markets are going bad for a whole year I realized that depending on crypto is not a smart move. So my next move will be getting a regular steady job and keep my bitcoin job as well.

I will be spending the money I make from regular job and than keep the crypto jobs payments in bitcoin (or other crypto) and than save it for the future. The more the merrier since the price will probably go up in the future so when I make money today and not spend it, it means I will have a lot more in the future.

That is why I think by 2030 I will probably working a dead end job probably promoted one or two times and have a lot of crypto to actually quit my job whenever I want to and still live comfortably while I am looking for a new job.
legendary
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December 18, 2018, 11:39:57 AM
#33
It just keeps spiralling down, meaning you have to work more and more to be able to afford the same things

This is the crux of the matter. A couple of generations ago it was commonplace for only one member of a household to work. It was completely feasible to afford a mortgage and living expenses for a family (which generally had more children than families do now) on one salary, while the other adult in the household stayed at home. This was even possible for people with laborer or blue-collar type jobs. Now we are seeing couples who both work full time, in all fields of employment, in some cases both with advanced degrees and above-average paying jobs, who are struggling to get on the property ladder or afford to have children. It's a non-sustainable model for any country, and long-term collapse of the pension system is only one of the problems it will bring.
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December 18, 2018, 11:02:35 AM
#32
12 years from now cryptocurrency is the main currency in the world.
There are different country in this world and each and everyone will have their National Currency to use.
Fiat will be replace and the world will be over the blockchain.
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December 18, 2018, 10:15:14 AM
#31
Looks like many economies around the world are going to be suffering major downfalls around 2030. The demographic pyramid is completely fucked up in many countries, with locals not having kids because basically millennial cannot afford to live on their own due low wages and high cost of living. In Europe it's all over the place. What grinds my gears is economists saying immigration is the solution and they will pay our retirement funds. This is insanity.

Anyway, do you have a portfolio that makes you comfortable about the future? we are definitely on our own so be sure to have some passive source of income for the future. Hopefully Bitcoin saves our ass and by 2030 we don't have to worry about money anymore.
only i can do is to keep the bitcoin i will never let it go even the price of it are not good in the eyes of other, i still keep it because i belive that bitcoin will recover soon and the future of it will be good
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December 18, 2018, 10:10:05 AM
#30
Looks like many economies around the world are going to be suffering major downfalls around 2030. The demographic pyramid is completely fucked up in many countries, with locals not having kids because basically millennial cannot afford to live on their own due low wages and high cost of living. In Europe it's all over the place. What grinds my gears is economists saying immigration is the solution and they will pay our retirement funds. This is insanity.

Anyway, do you have a portfolio that makes you comfortable about the future? we are definitely on our own so be sure to have some passive source of income for the future. Hopefully Bitcoin saves our ass and by 2030 we don't have to worry about money anymore.
Well, Let's hope for the best thing happen to bitcoin, even though no one exactly can predict about the future, about the 2030 where bitcoin save us all from worrying the cost of living. There might be a crisis financially affecting the world, but if we believe that everything will be alright, everything can be afforded, then it all will also happen as you wish. By investing money, especially on bitcoin, it can be a way to escape just in case we really really dumb in 2030. But, I honestly don't think that bad, I always hope for crypto, especially bitcoin to stand and be great again.
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December 18, 2018, 10:09:51 AM
#29
Everything is possible in 2030, anything can happen easily so better to be ready on that. There’s really a rumor for the next world financial crisis and maybe it will happen early before 2030. Well, i don’t have much money for the future but I believe my stocks account will allow me to survive on that crisis.

Investment is a good way for us to survive, and maybe cryptocurrency will be a great option for us. Who knows right? So preparing for the future is a must for everyone, don’t be too complacent for what you have right now because it can be gone easily in the future.
If there are still cryptocurrency then i'still investing to it. Year 2030 is too much far, there's a lot possible to happen so I think its better to focus what is current situation right now then only preparing and planning for the future.
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December 18, 2018, 09:45:41 AM
#28
Everything is possible in 2030, anything can happen easily so better to be ready on that. There’s really a rumor for the next world financial crisis and maybe it will happen early before 2030. Well, i don’t have much money for the future but I believe my stocks account will allow me to survive on that crisis.

Investment is a good way for us to survive, and maybe cryptocurrency will be a great option for us. Who knows right? So preparing for the future is a must for everyone, don’t be too complacent for what you have right now because it can be gone easily in the future.
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