What will you say within your limits to encourage responsible gambling? - page 4.

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Quote from: Zoomic on December 07, 2023, 01:33:05 PM

Quote from: Marykeller on December 07, 2023, 01:04:54 PM

If a worker goes ahead to advise gamblers to stop gambling when they are winning, doesn't he think that the owners of the casino won't have much money to run their casino business due to the lack of gamblers who lose more often instead of winning and quitting for the day?

It will be obvious that a gambler who wins big today and would love to stay away from gambling comes the next day with small money to try his luck to win big again.

Before a worker thinks of that, he should think of a situation, what if other gamblers keep yielding to the advice he is giving to quit when on profit? Will the casino where he works be able to keep paying his workers in the long run? Won't they close because of lack of funds not getting it from their customers who lose their bets and also not being able to have many gamblers who come always to patronize them per day?

Someone can't play stupid because he's trying to safeguard the profits of his customers, whereby is from the losses of his customers that his monthly salary is being gotten from

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Provided the gambler is not going against the rules and policies of the Casino, the worker has no right whatsoever to advice any gambler to stop gambling. I believe no Casino will find it pleasing knowing that their staff has been giving unsolicited advice to their customers. Especially advice capable of reducing the credibility of the casino. Such act goes against any organisation's policy and can warrant the casino worker being sacked.

If a gambler makes profit, it is a win for him and it will motivate him to visit the casino next time. And if the gambler makes losses, it is a win for the Casino as that is one avenue the casino makes profit. Casinos won't advice their customers to gamble responsibly, in fact they make more money from irresponsible gamblers.

And this is where business do keeps running because if you are really that actively giving out some advises around into those people who are winning to completely stop, then you are just basically going against with the business main idea and just like the rest been saying that if someone do notice out on what you are doing then they would really be telling the admin on what you've been doing and you would definitely be kicked out if you have been doing this for a while but if its your first time then you might be given out some warning but if not and the business had at least some decline in terms of revenue just because you've been actively telling someone to go home when they are winning then it would really be reflecting out that you are helping them and not the Casino on where you are working.

You wont really be a huge loss if they would really be that firing you immediately basing up on the things that you've been doing which it is really that against with their targets.
I do agree that having those concerns are good but there are really moments or things in life that we should really be that making ourselves get silent rather
than on taking some heroic steps even if you do know that you are risking yourself into doing such things.

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Quote from: Marykeller on December 07, 2023, 01:04:54 PM

If a worker goes ahead to advise gamblers to stop gambling when they are winning, doesn't he think that the owners of the casino won't have much money to run their casino business due to the lack of gamblers who lose more often instead of winning and quitting for the day?

It will be obvious that a gambler who wins big today and would love to stay away from gambling comes the next day with small money to try his luck to win big again.

Before a worker thinks of that, he should think of a situation, what if other gamblers keep yielding to the advice he is giving to quit when on profit? Will the casino where he works be able to keep paying his workers in the long run? Won't they close because of lack of funds not getting it from their customers who lose their bets and also not being able to have many gamblers who come always to patronize them per day?

Someone can't play stupid because he's trying to safeguard the profits of his customers, whereby is from the losses of his customers that his monthly salary is being gotten from

You are right
Provided the gambler is not going against the rules and policies of the Casino, the worker has no right whatsoever to advice any gambler to stop gambling. I believe no Casino will find it pleasing knowing that their staff has been giving unsolicited advice to their customers. Especially advice capable of reducing the credibility of the casino. Such act goes against any organisation's policy and can warrant the casino worker being sacked.

If a gambler makes profit, it is a win for him and it will motivate him to visit the casino next time. And if the gambler makes losses, it is a win for the Casino as that is one avenue the casino makes profit. Casinos won't advice their customers to gamble responsibly, in fact they make more money from irresponsible gamblers.

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Quote from: alastantiger on December 07, 2023, 03:41:28 AM

If you work as a staff member in a physical casino as a dealer or in a sports bookie, I know that there are subtle ways you can use to encourage responsible gambling that will not go against the terms and conditions for staff.

For example, suppose you encounter a gambler who has wagered $200 at the table and is currently winning $6k. Would you express to them, "Hey, you're up $6k, and you initially entered this table with $200. Walk away, Take your winnings, go!" or will you say, "It is very admirable to know when to stop"?

What will you say within your limits to encourage responsible gambling?

In a physical casino back in 2008 when I used to work there this was definitely not allowed for staff,the staff were only allowed to stay at their place and to convert money to playing chips,the dealer in the poker table and blackjack table was also not allowed to interact directly with the players as the object was observed with security cameras.

If I were the dealer I would tell them in a subtle way to stop at 6K as you are up 30x your initial amount and it is a good place to know when to leave,hoping for a tip Grin

from that player.In that casino where I worked tips were given in abundance I must admit as gamblers are usually in a great mood when they win,especially people winning jackpots of 5000 EUR and above were very generous in tips,they sometimes out of 5000 EUR let 300 EUR as a tip to the lady in the reception.

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If a worker goes ahead to advise gamblers to stop gambling when they are winning, doesn't he think that the owners of the casino won't have much money to run their casino business due to the lack of gamblers who lose more often instead of winning and quitting for the day?

It will be obvious that a gambler who wins big today and would love to stay away from gambling comes the next day with small money to try his luck to win big again.

Before a worker thinks of that, he should think of a situation, what if other gamblers keep yielding to the advice he is giving to quit when on profit? Will the casino where he works be able to keep paying his workers in the long run? Won't they close because of lack of funds not getting it from their customers who lose their bets and also not being able to have many gamblers who come always to patronize them per day?

Someone can't play stupid because he's trying to safeguard the profits of his customers, whereby is from the losses of his customers that his monthly salary is being gotten from

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Quote from: Sanugarid on December 07, 2023, 12:52:50 PM

Nothing, you don't have to say anything to your customer, you shouldn't interfere and another thing for me is rude that you suddenly give your opinion to the gamblers who are winning. I have never seen anyone working at a casino give advice on when to stop gambling. If you are a responsible gambler you should know when to stop gambling, there is no need to tell you that

The casino will never ask you to stop gambling no matter how much you lose during gambling.
Gambling casino will never care for your loss because this is what they actually want, that is the gamblers lose more games, and the casino becomes richer.
The winning of the gamblers is inversely proportional to the losing of the gamblers.

The gamblers themselves have to step up and introduce manual ways on how they can limit their gambling activities and therefore they do not lose more than what they can actually afford to lose. They cannot depend upon the gambling sites to offer this service. No one can help the gamblers on this, except the gamblers themselves.

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Quote from: alastantiger on December 07, 2023, 03:41:28 AM

If you work as a staff member in a physical casino as a dealer or in a sports bookie, I know that there are subtle ways you can use to encourage responsible gambling that will not go against the terms and conditions for staff.

For example, suppose you encounter a gambler who has wagered $200 at the table and is currently winning $6k. Would you express to them, "Hey, you're up $6k, and you initially entered this table with $200. Walk away, Take your winnings, go!" or will you say, "It is very admirable to know when to stop"?

What will you say within your limits to encourage responsible gambling?

Nothing, you don't have to say anything to your customer, you shouldn't interfere and another thing for me is rude that you suddenly give your opinion to the gamblers who are winning. I have never seen anyone working at a casino give advice on when to stop gambling. If you are a responsible gambler you should know when to stop gambling, there is no need to tell you that

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Quote from: _act_ on December 07, 2023, 12:38:14 PM

What if the gambler that won $6000 already continue to gamble and wins more? The chance that if a gambler continues to gamble he may later start losing, but it is still under probability because there are also chances that he can win more. The best is to never give an advice to a gambler as a work that is working in a casino.

You are really that indeed doing things which is really that against with your boss or with the owner of such business on trying out to convince someone to completely stop on the time that someone do make out some money. Yes, the amount involved might not really that much but on the time that you are in the verge or on such condition then as a gambler you would really be not doing on stopping anytime soon but rather you would really be continuing to play. You dont have the rights on giving out some advises on what he should gonna do that when he's already up with 6k and now you are making some advises that he should be leaving?
Cant really be avoided sometimes on getting concern with other people specially when they are making money but on the time that you are trying to interfere or making out those words
then it would really be neither giving out some possible problems in case.

Also you are working on a casino then it would really be just that right that you should really be aiming for people to lose even more rather than on giving out some sympahty on whatever they been doing
or the money that they do have on their gambling session.

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What if the gambler that won $6000 already continue to gamble and wins more? The chance that if a gambler continues to gamble he may later start losing, but it is still under probability because there are also chances that he can win more. The best is to never give an advice to a gambler as a work that is working in a casino.

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If I come across someone like that whether he wins or loses, and in my position I am a worker at a certain casino, I will choose to let him go even though he has lost a certain amount of money at the gambling table. I will ignore it and choose to continue my work. I do this because there are more important things that I have to do which is an obligation for a casino worker. yes ... although my heart will be a little sad, because considering the amount of defeat he experienced was equal to my salary for one week, for example ...

Unless the person playing is my brother and I know very well the condition of his family and economy, I will immediately tell him to go home and take care of his family, because your wife and children are waiting for your return. because you cannot make gambling a place to earn a living, while your family needs to eat every day.

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I believe the croupier doesn't have to say anything to the gambler. After all, it' none of his business to give advices on what the gambler should do with the earned money, much less when to stop. Employees have to know their functions and limits. To say to the gambler it's time to stop and go home is the same as an obese going to the fast food or restaurant and hearing from the attendant he should walk way because he is already too fat. That doesn't sound good and professional and would bring only negative consequences for the employee.

However, if employee and customer have a relationship that goes beyond the professional, such advices can be said in off, once an appropriate opportunity appears.

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Could we ask a simple but deep question instead of advising a gambler who's up $6k? Imagine asking, "How does being ahead feel? What was your goal when you started?" The subtle yet effective method stimulates self-reflection without overstepping limits. Guide them to their own conclusions, right?

Responsible gambling frequently depends on how we describe things. Imagine a player is completely engrossed in the game. Instead of suggesting, we should say, "Wow, great streak. Remember, fun is key!" This indirect way may be the gentle reminder they need. Its not instructive, but suggests they pause and examine their viewpoint. Isnt it about sowing idea rather than ordering?

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I think it is unprofessional to do that because it is against the ethics of your work as a staff of that casino. Doing that would mean you are encouraging gamblers to stop visiting your casino because some gamblers might take it as an insult on them while some might also see the reasons behind your advice but your casino would not take it lightly with you if such information reaches their table. Such engagements are better handled by casino management and not staff who is not in hierarchy of the casino. Such situation is very risky and would warrant a possible dismissal if care is not taken. In that case I really do not think a staff is permitted to do such as to advise a gambler to quit gambling or gamble responsibly.

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Quote from: alastantiger on December 07, 2023, 03:41:28 AM

What will you say within your limits to encourage responsible gambling?

As far as I know, operators or staff who work at online casinos have an oath or work agreement that must be kept confidential and are responsible for the behavior of gambling players and also the applicable casino rules.

My understanding is that there is no definite incentive for the players, except: outside of the work they do, but if they act responsibly for encouragement I don't think there is.

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I think it's very 'rude' of a casino worker to stop people from gambling, nor it is beneficial to the casino for their workers to stop gambling. If you are a dealer, then your only job is to keep the play going and nothing else. I know there is a dedicated department that works with what you're talking about in a gambling platform setting, so you can just continue dealing cards or making sure that games are continuing on your table.

Also, you will be reprimanded if you talk too much as a dealer aside from compliments or short one-liners, especially if you discourage anyone from gambling. Keep your mouth shut and do your job to keep your job, and let those gamblers deal with their own money. They were there because they have the dough, and whatever happens to their money is their responsibility, not yours.

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Quote from: alastantiger on December 07, 2023, 03:41:28 AM

For example, suppose you encounter a gambler who has wagered $200 at the table and is currently winning $6k. Would you express to them, "Hey, you're up $6k, and you initially entered this table with $200. Walk away, Take your winnings, go!" or will you say, "It is very admirable to know when to stop"?

This is the best way to loss your job because you are working for the casino so that they will get profit to continue the business operation. Lecturing about responsible gambling is not on your job description.

Quote from: alastantiger on December 07, 2023, 03:41:28 AM

What will you say within your limits to encourage responsible gambling?

As a casino staff. It’s unethical to said anything that will encourage gambler to stop gambling. Maybe just remind them to play responsibly when they are already heated due to the loss but I will never give an advice whenever they are winning just to make them secure profit because I’m working with the house and they are paying me to bring profit to the casino.

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This desire should come to him, why do we as staff have to tell him and remind him to stop playing gambling in a subtle way or not? Basically, people who are winning at gambling have a little increased adrenaline, so it seems difficult to tell him and in fact they definitely won't hear it either, usually they Those who win at gambling increase their self-confidence and will continue to play and will not stop until they win even bigger. because greed has been inherent in humans since they were born.

Moreover, why does a staff member have to remind a gambler who won, wouldn't that actually be detrimental to the dealer and cause the dealer to lose money, the staff will not get any money from the dealer if in the end the physical casino really goes bankrupt if all the staff have to tell the gamblers to stop when they win. That's a little strange and doesn't make sense in my opinion Grin

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Quote from: alastantiger on December 07, 2023, 03:41:28 AM

If you work as a staff member in a physical casino as a dealer or in a sports bookie, I know that there are subtle ways you can use to encourage responsible gambling that will not go against the terms and conditions for staff.

For example, suppose you encounter a gambler who has wagered $200 at the table and is currently winning $6k. Would you express to them, "Hey, you're up $6k, and you initially entered this table with $200. Walk away, Take your winnings, go!" or will you say, "It is very admirable to know when to stop"?

What will you say within your limits to encourage responsible gambling?

Why would the staff say such a thing that would risk his job. All the casinos have cameras and if the manager sees the staff saying such things then he might have to lose his job.
So I think, remaining quite would be the best thing to do in such a situation. Rest is the gamblers luck if he gets out with profits in his pockets.

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If I were that staff I wouldn't say anything to that person, that's because it's not that I don't care about what he does, but there are some things that I need to care about and not care about at some time. In this position I was working where my responsibilities were about work which required me to ignore my personal matters. Maybe I feel sorry for that person, but if I forbid him from doing that, it would lead me to something difficult which might threaten my job. Instead of losing my job, I'd better ignore it.

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Quote from: alastantiger on December 07, 2023, 03:41:28 AM

For example, suppose you encounter a gambler who has wagered $200 at the table and is currently winning $6k. Would you express to them, "Hey, you're up $6k, and you initially entered this table with $200. Walk away, Take your winnings, go!" or will you say, "It is very admirable to know when to stop"?

What will you say within your limits to encourage responsible gambling?

As a staff of a casino, I think your job is to ensure your company makes a profit, right? And the only way these casinos could make a profit is when people come to gamble and lose their bet, right? So for me, if I happens to find myself in such a situation as a staff of a casino, the best thing will be to mind my business, while gamblers gamble as it pleases them, because whoever comes into a casino to gamble, may have got a target by which he/she into to achieve before leaving the casino, and I won't want the be that stumbling block preventing anyone from winning his/her target amount.

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Quote from: cabron on December 07, 2023, 10:30:12 AM

The casino staff will notice you and rat you out to the boss for doing so. The man just won more than $5k and instead of giving him free liquors for him to bet more, you let him walk away? Idk, the boss will let you walk out of that casino without pay. Thats what will happen.

Because this is a local physical casino then most probably you can identify the locals who aren't rich but are inside the casino, you may be able to chat discreetly with them and encourage them to stop.

I do not agree at all because if you let the user walk away with the money, then he will have a reason to come back soon, he will think "This is the place where i win in the past, so, here is my luck". And we have seen that a lot of times in the past. If the user has a good experience in the casino he will be back, you can be 100% sure of that.

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