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Quote from: cabron on December 07, 2023, 10:30:12 AM

The casino staff will notice you and rat you out to the boss for doing so. The man just won more than $5k and instead of giving him free liquors for him to bet more, you let him walk away? Idk, the boss will let you walk out of that casino without pay. Thats what will happen.

Because this is a local physical casino then most probably you can identify the locals who aren't rich but are inside the casino, you may be able to chat discreetly with them and encourage them to stop.

I do not agree at all because if you let the user walk away with the money, then he will have a reason to come back soon, he will think "This is the place where i win in the past, so, here is my luck". And we have seen that a lot of times in the past. If the user has a good experience in the casino he will be back, you can be 100% sure of that.

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Quote from: alastantiger on December 07, 2023, 03:41:28 AM

If you work as a staff member in a physical casino as a dealer or in a sports bookie, I know that there are subtle ways you can use to encourage responsible gambling that will not go against the terms and conditions for staff.

For example, suppose you encounter a gambler who has wagered $200 at the table and is currently winning $6k. Would you express to them, "Hey, you're up $6k, and you initially entered this table with $200. Walk away, Take your winnings, go!" or will you say, "It is very admirable to know when to stop"?

What will you say within your limits to encourage responsible gambling?

But it is not the job of any employee of any gambling platform to direct users towards responsible gambling. Quite the opposite, because any worker's actions are supposed to be in the interest of the company (the platform), and therefore responsible gambling should never be one of the goals that that worker aspires to in order to maintain the continuity of the company that at least secures his job.
I confirm that if a worker tries to direct one of the players on the platform to what we call “responsible gambling,” his direct manager will suspend him from work without hesitation if he does not force him to pay a penal fine due to his actions that violate the general principles of the platform’s concept.

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Quote from: alastantiger on December 07, 2023, 03:41:28 AM

If you work as a staff member in a physical casino as a dealer or in a sports bookie, I know that there are subtle ways you can use to encourage responsible gambling that will not go against the terms and conditions for staff.

For example, suppose you encounter a gambler who has wagered $200 at the table and is currently winning $6k. Would you express to them, "Hey, you're up $6k, and you initially entered this table with $200. Walk away, Take your winnings, go!" or will you say, "It is very admirable to know when to stop"?

What will you say within your limits to encourage responsible gambling?

I don't know if you're allowed in the first place to talk with the players, I think it's against the rules as a staff and especially if you're a dealer or something. It may be a good thing but I think you shouldn't be there if you'll not fulfill the job you're tasked to. For me, I'd just do my job until the very last, gamblers are responsible enough to know that they can handle themselves.

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Quote from: alastantiger on December 07, 2023, 03:41:28 AM

If you work as a staff member in a physical casino as a dealer or in a sports bookie, I know that there are subtle ways you can use to encourage responsible gambling that will not go against the terms and conditions for staff.

For example, suppose you encounter a gambler who has wagered $200 at the table and is currently winning $6k. Would you express to them, "Hey, you're up $6k, and you initially entered this table with $200. Walk away, Take your winnings, go!" or will you say, "It is very admirable to know when to stop"?

What will you say within your limits to encourage responsible gambling?

The casino staff will notice you and rat you out to the boss for doing so. The man just won more than $5k and instead of giving him free liquors for him to bet more, you let him walk away? Idk, the boss will let you walk out of that casino without pay. Thats what will happen.

Because this is a local physical casino then most probably you can identify the locals who aren't rich but are inside the casino, you may be able to chat discreetly with them and encourage them to stop.

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Why do I do it, don't I get paid by the casino, after all it's not my job. The final decision is in the hands of the gambler, when he stops and when he wants to increase the bet with the money he has just won. I prefer to be in a safe position, as a staff member I must have loyalty to the company that employs me. I will work professionally on the side of whoever pays me.

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Quote from: alastantiger on December 07, 2023, 03:41:28 AM

If you work as a staff member in a physical casino as a dealer or in a sports bookie, I know that there are subtle ways you can use to encourage responsible gambling that will not go against the terms and conditions for staff.

Why would you do that you are trained to encourage people to gamble if they are there to make money or just want to be entertained, that's none of your business

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For example, suppose you encounter a gambler who has wagered $200 at the table and is currently winning $6k. Would you express to them, "Hey, you're up $6k, and you initially entered this table with $200. Walk away, Take your winnings, go!" or will you say, "It is very admirable to know when to stop"?
What will you say within your limits to encourage responsible gambling?

That's the easiest way to lose your job, the gambler will likely report you for that kind of comment, if you look at the casino staff, they will just congratulate you but they avoid interaction that will lead to unpleasant conversation because you have no right to influence his decision.

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Quote from: alastantiger on December 07, 2023, 03:41:28 AM

If you work as a staff member in a physical casino as a dealer or in a sports bookie, I know that there are subtle ways you can use to encourage responsible gambling that will not go against the terms and conditions for staff.

For example, suppose you encounter a gambler who has wagered $200 at the table and is currently winning $6k. Would you express to them, "Hey, you're up $6k, and you initially entered this table with $200. Walk away, Take your winnings, go!" or will you say, "It is very admirable to know when to stop"?

What will you say within your limits to encourage responsible gambling?

Casino dealers are not allowed to say such things. They can chit-chat with the gamblers; however, it is not good for the business if they encourage the gambler to go home after winning. In my experience in a house, some dealers initiate small talk regarding their job or ask about the gambler's small information. Some give a hint or give a piece of advice (which is illegal and not being heard by anyone, this is only between the certain gambler and the dealer).

I don't know if this is the same scenario in another country, but this is how I experience offline casinos. But I never heard a dealer telling a gambler to go home with your winnings.

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If I were a staff member at a physical casino I would do the same thing as some people have said here, namely not do anything or say anything because if I say anything about gambling responsibly it would be the same as me interfering in other people privacy and that behavior which a staff member should not do because the job of casino staff serving customers is not to provide education to customers.

and gambling responsibly actually rests with each gambler and other people should not provide education like that when they dont know each other, it will create misunderstandings.

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Though I've never personally read the terms and conditions of a physical casino or know anything about them, from the context of this topic, I can surely say that doing such a thing will be strictly against their rules and a staff member or a dealer cannot say anything like that to a gambler, and if they try to do anything like that, making a gambler stop gambling when they are ahead and go away with profit, and they are caught doing that, they will either get fired or fined heavily.

A casino would never like to see a gambler joining a table and then leaving with a huge profit margin because that will cost them money, and even though it's true that they will earn more than that from another table, they would still want all the tables to stay profitable for them at all times since that is better for business.

So, a staff member will not be allowed to give such tips or pass such comments, and nothing that makes a gambler realize that they should make a responsible decision can be considered within the limit of their duty.

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Quote from: alastantiger on December 07, 2023, 03:41:28 AM

If you work as a staff member in a physical casino as a dealer or in a sports bookie, I know that there are subtle ways you can use to encourage responsible gambling that will not go against the terms and conditions for staff.

For example, suppose you encounter a gambler who has wagered $200 at the table and is currently winning $6k. Would you express to them, "Hey, you're up $6k, and you initially entered this table with $200. Walk away, Take your winnings, go!" or will you say, "It is very admirable to know when to stop"?

What will you say within your limits to encourage responsible gambling?

The casino worker is paid from the proceeds that is realised from bets, so to discourage someone from staking more will be unethical. The staff of physical casinos should always protect the interest of both the gambler and the casino firm. He should ensure that the gamblers and comfortable and given the best service at the same time promote the business of his employees.

Some country mandates casinos to put measures in place that will limit gambling addiction. So in this case these workers can limit the gambling activities of those who have been identified as addicts. They can be barred from casinos and the staff has the right to advise them to leave when they identify any sign of overgambling. I have not read the job description or terms of employment of casino staff, maybe it might contain policies that cover OP's questions.

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Quote from: alastantiger on December 07, 2023, 03:41:28 AM

For example, suppose you encounter a gambler who has wagered $200 at the table and is currently winning $6k. Would you express to them, "Hey, you're up $6k, and you initially entered this table with $200. Walk away, Take your winnings, go!" or will you say, "It is very admirable to know when to stop"?

Sometimes some staff members of a game house say this but not like they are going to stop booking games for you if you insist. They could do this in a subtle manner by stylishly encouraging the player to stop then if he starts to complain of losing part of his winning, it could in form like" stop complaining if you lose, afterall you have been winning and you can stop playing if you think you have started losing out or you can rest "

I consider such as subtle discouragement from playing and we also have to remember that some of those working in the physical casinos or game houses are relatives and friends, so such relationships exist. Mostly when a lady is a worker, she could advise the brother or boyfriend not to continue but maybe not openly, perhaps slyly.

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Quote from: mindrust on December 07, 2023, 08:15:01 AM

Quote from: alastantiger on December 07, 2023, 03:41:28 AM

If you work as a staff member in a physical casino as a dealer or in a sports bookie, I know that there are subtle ways you can use to encourage responsible gambling that will not go against the terms and conditions for staff.

For example, suppose you encounter a gambler who has wagered $200 at the table and is currently winning $6k. Would you express to them, "Hey, you're up $6k, and you initially entered this table with $200. Walk away, Take your winnings, go!" or will you say, "It is very admirable to know when to stop"?

What will you say within your limits to encourage responsible gambling?

That's not how you encourage "responsible gambling", that's being stupid.

Since you get paid by the casino, your customers should lose money to the casino so you can get paid. If the players get away with profits all the time, the casino loses money, if the casino loses money, they go bankrupt and you will lose your job. This is common sense bruh.

You can't save everybody anyway and responsible gambling is full of bullcrap. It is not the casino's job to encourage responsible gambling.

On point! , why would a casino staff bother to concern the players or gamblers to stop them playing, then that staff will lose his job, I know if it comes to humanity and concern to other people that is being swallowed by gambling then its good to do that, but in reality the staff is just doing its job and its not part of their job to stop or encourage players to stop ay they notice that its wasting too much money or being addicted, and no matter what they do, or even they do that, I don't think that a gambler will listen to the staff, it is a casino play so the players maybe fortunate so they will not listen to someone who below them, I don't discriminate the casino staff its just they dont have the position to do so, even if they have a concern the only thing they could do is do their job. A gambler should have their own back and not rely on anyone to remind them of what is happening to them.

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The staff will encourage responsible gambling when the gambler keep losing too much money, not when they're make profit. Cheesy

If the staff already recognize the gambler that usually spend for $200, but in the next weekend he willing to gamble for $300, the staff might ask him whether it's okay or not to continue. It's also possible when the gambler gamble too much than the other gambler.

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If you work in a casino, it's important to follow the rules and not remind customers to stop gambling. This could affect the casino's profits and impact the customer's experience. It's also important to know how customers might react to any reminder or intervention. Be sensitive and professional when approaching customers since they're gambling. Some of them might feel that it's your fault if they lost after you encouraged them to gamble responsibly.

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I remember reading somewhere that casino staff are allowed to say something if the gambler is showing signs of a gambling problem but I am not sure if they are allowed to say to a gambler that they should leave or stop gambling while they are still in profit. pretty sure casino staff need to follow certain protocols when they interact with a gambler who is showing signs of a gambling problem.

anyway, I don't think I'll say something like the one you wrote, I'd probably just say "Congrats".

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Quote from: alastantiger on December 07, 2023, 03:41:28 AM

If you work as a staff member in a physical casino as a dealer or in a sports bookie, I know that there are subtle ways you can use to encourage responsible gambling that will not go against the terms and conditions for staff.

For example, suppose you encounter a gambler who has wagered $200 at the table and is currently winning $6k. Would you express to them, "Hey, you're up $6k, and you initially entered this table with $200. Walk away, Take your winnings, go!" or will you say, "It is very admirable to know when to stop"?

What will you say within your limits to encourage responsible gambling?

That's not how you encourage "responsible gambling", that's being stupid.

Since you get paid by the casino, your customers should lose money to the casino so you can get paid. If the players get away with profits all the time, the casino loses money, if the casino loses money, they go bankrupt and you will lose your job. This is common sense bruh.

You can't save everybody anyway and responsible gambling is full of bullcrap. It is not the casino's job to encourage responsible gambling.

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Quote from: alastantiger on December 07, 2023, 03:41:28 AM

If you work as a staff member in a physical casino as a dealer or in a sports bookie, I know that there are subtle ways you can use to encourage responsible gambling that will not go against the terms and conditions for staff.

For example, suppose you encounter a gambler who has wagered $200 at the table and is currently winning $6k. Would you express to them, "Hey, you're up $6k, and you initially entered this table with $200. Walk away, Take your winnings, go!" or will you say, "It is very admirable to know when to stop"?

What will you say within your limits to encourage responsible gambling?

For sure there would really be terms and conditions on what are those staffs need to be followed when you are working for such company. If ever there's none then for sure you should really be that careful with your co-workers on which they might really be telling the management or the owner basing up on what you are doing. You are just trying to make people do get out when they are winning which it is really that against with the companies or platforms or business motive which is to make more revenue. Its always better that you should really be that keeping yourself quiet and mind your own job and do whats right if you do love your job and you wouldnt be liking to lose that one. Yes, it is really that something good to make someone realize that they should ran away and call it a day when they are already up but as a staff then we do
know on where our sympathy would be on which it would really be getting in line with the owner because if the business wont be profitable already then you might really be ending up on losing your job
because of lay offs or totally shutdown on bankrupt.

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That is beyond my responsibility, because it is their personal responsibility. And when I work at a casino, of course I will do my best so that visitors can feel at home and feel comfortable in the casino where I work, through the service I provide to each visitor. Because a worker's responsibility is to provide the best service to every visitor.

And if a visitor behaves carelessly by betting a large amount, then a moment later he loses and returns to betting again. It's their business and I won't say a word to stop it. Because after all, the wages I get from a casino, the money is the result of the losses of casino visitors.

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Quote from: alastantiger on December 07, 2023, 03:41:28 AM

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Why would I say responsible gambling stuff? I'm a dealer. If paid enough, I'd go hell and beyond to persuade someone to gamble more. If I were forced to say something responsible though, I'd 100% sound like I'm challenging them more than anything than being persuasive really. The lines themselves are good though like, "Ain't you gonna stop? You might lose more" or something like that, maybe even poke some fun by telling the casino loses out with them here but I'd probably put out a sarcastic tone really or something.

If I wasn't paid enough though... who knows.

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Quote from: alastantiger on December 07, 2023, 03:41:28 AM

If you work as a staff member in a physical casino as a dealer or in a sports bookie, I know that there are subtle ways you can use to encourage responsible gambling that will not go against the terms and conditions for staff.

For example, suppose you encounter a gambler who has wagered $200 at the table and is currently winning $6k. Would you express to them, "Hey, you're up $6k, and you initially entered this table with $200. Walk away, Take your winnings, go!" or will you say, "It is very admirable to know when to stop"?

What will you say within your limits to encourage responsible gambling?

You'll get fired by your managers for doing that, it's not your business to tell the players what to do how to behave, and what to do with their money it's their money, and whatever reason they are in the casino it is none of your business, you are a misinformed staff if you do that to a player.

The staff's work is to serve the players and not to give advice on what to do and in case a player comes to you to ask for advice it is unethical to give him a piece of advice, your casino is the one paying you your salary and if you shut out gamblers then you don't deserve your salary.

I have never encountered this while playing in a casino the players can complain to the management of harassment if you give them advice on what to do with their money, you should act like a staff and not as an adviser.

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