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Quote from: Iroh on March 03, 2024, 09:45:16 PM

Those games are won and lost at random. I’ve played quite a bit and may have once thought of the possibility of having a pattern. When you think you’ve discovered a pattern, that’s when you’ll get thrown off. If you’re the stubborn and persistent with nothing else to do, you’ll keep on looking for new patterns after your previous one fails. Until you get convinced of it’s randomness.
No casino would have or keep longer than they should, a pattern for some of their games that could be cracked by someone smart and used to beat the system.

You’ll need more of luck than you’re going to need any analysis or pattern.

What you say is very correct, winnings in gambling are won randomly and we will never be able to find a pattern that can win with the same pattern at different times, when we keep trying to find new patterns to be able to win the game we play then we will spend more of the money we have in the game and only luck will definitely be able to win the game correctly and there is no luck that comes continuously, this doesn't happen in the near future and we can't realize this when we are playing.

The game itself is random; what do the gamblers think? I think they are finding a pattern in a random-based game like mine sweeper, even though they are already aware that no pattern exists in this kind of game. The OP's friend is just being dilutional and thinking in that way, maybe because he is desperate to win in gambling, but that's not how things work. I tried random-based games in different casinos, and one of them is mine sweeper. I know it is random, but in the sense that you are having a hard time winning this game, who will create a gambling game that will let gamblers win easily? That's the reason why I hate random-based games or luck-based gambling games the most because it will be unfair for me if I keep on losing. and I also don't rely on luck, as I know I'm not lucky enough.

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Quote from: coin-investor on March 03, 2024, 10:51:49 AM

How about you have you at one time of your gambling experience experienced finding patterns that you think are effective and consistent only to find out later after several days that it's not working anymore..

There's no pattern (or strategy) can consistently work in luck based games. If you rely or too hopeful, it can only lead to disappointment for experiencing losses. When I was a newbie gambler, I thought it's possible, making me believe then that it's not hard to win. I already use every strategies available out there to maximize my chances but in the end it didn't work.

Thus, I accepted the fact that if you're not prepared to lose your money, then don't gamble. Stop looking for pattern or strategies because it's not accurate.

In gambling there is no strategy where one can guarantee a game. One strategy may have helped him win a few bets, but if he repeats that strategy to win more, he may lose. In gambling, if a gambler had a winning streak with a certain strategy, it doesn't mean that they never lose at gambling. Here a gambler needs to change his strategy rather than gambling on a fixed strategy. Because the strategy that works today may not work tomorrow. Gambling patterns should also change with the times. Moreover, it is foolish for a gambler to think only about winning because no one will win constantly from gambling. If a gambler expects to win, he must first prepare to lose.

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It's a common trap to find patterns in luck-based games. When I was new to gambling, I've also encountered situations where I thought I'd found a winning pattern but failed after a few successful rounds. It's natural to be curious about gambling patterns or trends, but it's important to avoid making impulsive or risky decisions based on patterns and trends.

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Quote from: coin-investor on March 03, 2024, 10:51:49 AM

How about you have you at one time of your gambling experience experienced finding patterns that you think are effective and consistent only to find out later after several days that it's not working anymore..

I don't have any set out pattern I normally follow during my gambling. I gamble basically based on my current instinct and a bit of my research and analysis but I do have a friend in high school that took time to o analyse virtual sports betting and came up with a strategy that he used to cash out alomst $1k within one week after which the strategy stopped working. It was a surprise to me how he was able to do that but the reality is that he actually did it.

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Quote from: cabron on March 03, 2024, 11:51:24 AM

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In the early days of my gambling in crypto, this is what I was doing just trying to figure whether there is really a pattern to the result in dice. Minesweeper came out later but it seemed to be more fun to play. There is only one pattern, house winning over you, that's always been the pattern. Despite knowing this, the thrill of gambling is getting stronger instead.

and this is why we need to always deal with fun instead of anything that can generate income
because admit it or not? we are only having thrill and fun for assurance than those what they called winning.

Sad but true.

Human beings evolved finding patterns in nature that made them get resources, such as animal footsteps on the ground which lead them to a prey, or seasons which maximized the chances of success of an eventual harvest. So it is natural to imagine patterns, it's in our DNA.

Unfortunately, these games are designed in a way that the patterns which were useful to our predecessors aren't useful anymore.

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Quote from: cabron on March 03, 2024, 11:51:24 AM

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In the early days of my gambling in crypto, this is what I was doing just trying to figure whether there is really a pattern to the result in dice. Minesweeper came out later but it seemed to be more fun to play. There is only one pattern, house winning over you, that's always been the pattern. Despite knowing this, the thrill of gambling is getting stronger instead.

and this is why we need to always deal with fun instead of anything that can generate income
because admit it or not? we are only having thrill and fun for assurance than those what they called winning.

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We don't give up looking or patterns though. Even when we play martingale from time to time I change my roll over to roll under after doubling the amount.

well we are not rich to sustain Martingale , because in the past I kept trying this but sadly
I am not worth winning or losing that much so yes you have a good strategy now.

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Quote from: coin-investor on March 03, 2024, 10:51:49 AM

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Yea I didn't think said "pattern" would last really. Heck, I'm actually surprised he was able to use it for 2 days. I reckon that's already pretty good considering all the patterns you'd be able to find and use with the game. I personally rarely remember patterns, if I ever do use them. Probably the closest thing I do is create a reasoning for as to why said game would end up like this, like that based on the previous games. Now I know that sounds dumb, and probably not even logical but hey, if I'm having fun I'd just let it be really.

And no, I don't actively look for patterns. I actively reason out why I should do this or that sometimes but I rarely use said justification permanently. At one time I can say it's because of X reason, and at another it's not going to happen because of said same X reason.

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Quote from: coin-investor on March 03, 2024, 10:51:49 AM

And are you still looking for patterns that you think will work in the long run for you.

People need to understand that gambling is a game of luck and not skill. Now how can you search for a pattern where your luck is involved in the task. Yes if it was sports betting, then yes some skill is required to properly analyse the game. But still here also luck plays an important role. If you ask me, then don’t ever follow any pattern. Only good luck can save you from getting busted in the gambling.

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Quote from: GigaBit on March 03, 2024, 06:59:37 PM

Quote from: coin-investor on March 03, 2024, 10:51:49 AM

How about you have you at one time of your gambling experience experienced finding patterns that you think are effective and consistent only to find out later after several days that it's not working anymore..

And are you still looking for patterns that you think will work in the long run for you.

I don't really believe in gambling where I win regularly. Moreover, the fact that I will win consecutively is also not acceptable. What I want to say is that there are wins and losses in gambling, a gambler must try to employ that strategy and they should have different strategies. But a gambler can never be sure that he will win his game. We know that if a gambler follows the martingale method where his odds are high, he cannot be sure to win where he can. Maybe you win 3 times in a row then your chances of losing are high. Similarly when losing and raising your bet, if it misses a few times it can be a big loss for you. So a decision should be taken considering one's financial position.

The Martingale method is not mathematically achievable because of the house edge. If we were talking about a game where the chances of winning or losing are 50/50, then yes, technically, it could be possible. But there is also a possibility that you lose all your money. But that is either way too risky for casinos. That is why the house edge exists in the first place. The reality of gambling is simple: The more often you bet, the lower the possibility becomes that you will make your money back.

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Those games are won and lost at random. I’ve played quite a bit and may have once thought of the possibility of having a pattern. When you think you’ve discovered a pattern, that’s when you’ll get thrown off. If you’re the stubborn and persistent with nothing else to do, you’ll keep on looking for new patterns after your previous one fails. Until you get convinced of it’s randomness.
No casino would have or keep longer than they should, a pattern for some of their games that could be cracked by someone smart and used to beat the system.

You’ll need more of luck than you’re going to need any analysis or pattern.

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Quote from: coin-investor on March 03, 2024, 10:51:49 AM

How about you have you at one time of your gambling experience experienced finding patterns that you think are effective and consistent only to find out later after several days that it's not working anymore..

There's no pattern (or strategy) can consistently work in luck based games. If you rely or too hopeful, it can only lead to disappointment for experiencing losses. When I was a newbie gambler, I thought it's possible, making me believe then that it's not hard to win. I already use every strategies available out there to maximize my chances but in the end it didn't work.

Thus, I accepted the fact that if you're not prepared to lose your money, then don't gamble. Stop looking for pattern or strategies because it's not accurate.

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Quote from: Bananington on March 03, 2024, 08:01:18 PM

Change is constant or better put, dynamic. No pattern should be the only pattern we know or adopt when gambling. As is the case with the friend in our OP's story, such an experience will teach him to adopt other strategies or make him gamble freely without any strategies next time.

The most important pattern I adhere to is to always weigh my funds. No matter the strategy I try to use when gambling, once I notice my cash is depleting faster as my losses are ranking up, I either find an exit or do something else. Tomorrow will be a better day, I say.

Op is right where he mentioned that gambling has no specific strategy that works. I'll want to add that gambling has no strategy that helps in winning. The only valid strategy in gambling revolves on maintenance. Hence, trying to manipulate the result is not possible. Whenever we see a win, then it had nothing to do with our strategy or how we gambled. Because it may not work similarly the next time, proving that it doesn't work. As a gambler saving up our funds for another day, is worth it, it's wrong to finish all the funds on the bank roll, for our unrealistic gambling strategy. Some will think that the wins they've got today, would be same tomorrow, and they'll go prepared with lots of money, wagering more which can affect their financial economy if the game doesn't play in their favor.

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Quote from: coin-investor on March 03, 2024, 10:51:49 AM

How about you have you at one time of your gambling experience experienced finding patterns that you think are effective and consistent only to find out later after several days that it's not working anymore..

And are you still looking for patterns that you think will work in the long run for you.

I don't really believe in gambling where I win regularly. Moreover, the fact that I will win consecutively is also not acceptable. What I want to say is that there are wins and losses in gambling, a gambler must try to employ that strategy and they should have different strategies. But a gambler can never be sure that he will win his game. We know that if a gambler follows the martingale method where his odds are high, he cannot be sure to win where he can. Maybe you win 3 times in a row then your chances of losing are high. Similarly when losing and raising your bet, if it misses a few times it can be a big loss for you. So a decision should be taken considering one's financial position.

Yes we are of the same mind. After all there is absolutely no consistency in terms of the results of gambling especially for winnings, everything is random and means that all gamblers will always find one of the two answers at the end of the session such as winning and losing, anyone will never know the results of his gambling. So it doesn't make sense for anyone to say that they can have a long-term winning streak in gambling, unless they can show the winning transactions but I think that's too impossible.

The point is that gambling is not a place that can provide anyone with income especially in a long-term streak, because there is absolutely no certainty that can guarantee you to always win, and also for the problem of winning is always about the situation of "coincidence" which is clearly not known in advance that the victory will occur. On the other hand, healthy gambling is gambling by balancing the financial situation as you said, such as putting the amount you can afford to lose because this is the best approach if you want to avoid the possibility of bad gambling in the long run.

Gamblers would really be having that never ending search for answers and proofs that their strategies would really be working until they would really be keeping on making those deposits until they would really be losing up that big time. This is why it would really be always best that you should really know on how to make yourself that having the control because if you dont then you would really be keeping on pushing until you would really be satisfying yourself whether it would work or not. If it gets busted then you would really be looking for another and the cycle continues.
As long you wont really be making yourself that getting satisfied on the things that you are seeking then you wont really be stopping yourself.

Strategies could really be only applied into those strategic based games on which it would really be requiring that sufficient experience and skills towards it, but somewhat it would really be still that requiring that luck factor for you to be overall be able to win up the game. This is gambling/betting on which it would be still heavily relies on luck. There's no way that you could
be able to control nor influence on how lucky you would be on a particular point.

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Quote from: GigaBit on March 03, 2024, 06:59:37 PM

Quote from: coin-investor on March 03, 2024, 10:51:49 AM

How about you have you at one time of your gambling experience experienced finding patterns that you think are effective and consistent only to find out later after several days that it's not working anymore..

And are you still looking for patterns that you think will work in the long run for you.

I don't really believe in gambling where I win regularly. Moreover, the fact that I will win consecutively is also not acceptable. What I want to say is that there are wins and losses in gambling, a gambler must try to employ that strategy and they should have different strategies. But a gambler can never be sure that he will win his game. We know that if a gambler follows the martingale method where his odds are high, he cannot be sure to win where he can. Maybe you win 3 times in a row then your chances of losing are high. Similarly when losing and raising your bet, if it misses a few times it can be a big loss for you. So a decision should be taken considering one's financial position.

Yes we are of the same mind. After all there is absolutely no consistency in terms of the results of gambling especially for winnings, everything is random and means that all gamblers will always find one of the two answers at the end of the session such as winning and losing, anyone will never know the results of his gambling. So it doesn't make sense for anyone to say that they can have a long-term winning streak in gambling, unless they can show the winning transactions but I think that's too impossible.

The point is that gambling is not a place that can provide anyone with income especially in a long-term streak, because there is absolutely no certainty that can guarantee you to always win, and also for the problem of winning is always about the situation of "coincidence" which is clearly not known in advance that the victory will occur. On the other hand, healthy gambling is gambling by balancing the financial situation as you said, such as putting the amount you can afford to lose because this is the best approach if you want to avoid the possibility of bad gambling in the long run.

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Change is constant or better put, dynamic. No pattern should be the only pattern we know or adopt when gambling. As is the case with the friend in our OP's story, such an experience will teach him to adopt other strategies or make him gamble freely without any strategies next time.

The most important pattern I adhere to is to always weigh my funds. No matter the strategy I try to use when gambling, once I notice my cash is depleting faster as my losses are ranking up, I either find an exit or do something else. Tomorrow will be a better day, I say.

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Quote from: coin-investor on March 03, 2024, 10:51:49 AM

How about you have you at one time of your gambling experience experienced finding patterns that you think are effective and consistent only to find out later after several days that it's not working anymore..

And are you still looking for patterns that you think will work in the long run for you.

I don't really believe in gambling where I win regularly. Moreover, the fact that I will win consecutively is also not acceptable. What I want to say is that there are wins and losses in gambling, a gambler must try to employ that strategy and they should have different strategies. But a gambler can never be sure that he will win his game. We know that if a gambler follows the martingale method where his odds are high, he cannot be sure to win where he can. Maybe you win 3 times in a row then your chances of losing are high. Similarly when losing and raising your bet, if it misses a few times it can be a big loss for you. So a decision should be taken considering one's financial position.

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on March 03, 2024, 03:32:19 PM

Quote from: coin-investor on March 03, 2024, 10:51:49 AM

I always tell and advise my friends who are new to gambling to never look for a pattern in luck-based games because there is none even the ever-popular martingale is not a guarantee that you can find a pattern that will give you a continuous win.

It is a wrong idea for one to think their is a pattern or strategy to get win in gambling . Gambling is unpredictable, their is nothing that can be changed from how gambling is. In gambling it is either you lose or you gain this is how gbling is. When one is thinking how to get a pattern of winning games in gambling always, this can be a dangerous mindset because before will think of always winning, it is assumed that the person has already believed so much in gambling.

The truth is, no matter how skilled or knowledgeable a gambler may be, there's always an element of chance involved in gambling. The allure of finding a winning pattern or strategy can lead gamblers to develop unrealistic expectations and invest significant time and resources into gambling. This can ultimately lead to disappointment, financial loss, and even addiction.

If you are engaging in gambling, you need to approach gambling with a realistic understanding of the risks involved and to recognize that wins and losses are an inherent part of the experience. Strategies such as bankroll management and understanding the odds can help mitigate risk, but they can never eliminate it entirely. Becoming overly fixated on the idea of always winning in gambling can indicate a problematic relationship with the activity. People have to maintain a healthy perspective and to engage in gambling responsibly. Believing in guaranteed winning patterns is a dangerous trap of the unpredictable nature of gambling.

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Quote from: coin-investor on March 03, 2024, 10:51:49 AM

I always tell and advise my friends who are new to gambling to never look for a pattern in luck-based games because there is none even the ever-popular martingale is not a guarantee that you can find a pattern that will give you a continuous win.

I have a friend who boasted that he had found a pattern where it allowed him to win 10 successive bets on Mine Sweeper, he used that pattern two successive days with success but unfortunately for him on the third day those patterns are not working anymore even on the 4th and fifth days, now he is back on the drawing board again..

I told him that the house edge plays out and since this is luck based game what works now may not work tomorrow every day is a new session with new patterns

How about you have you at one time of your gambling experience experienced finding patterns that you think are effective and consistent only to find out later after several days that it's not working anymore..

And are you still looking for patterns that you think will work in the long run for you.

I must admit that I did it once after discovering some influencers on YouTube who seemed to be using this gambling site and claiming to have some sort of pattern that you should follow. This piqued my interest, so I downloaded the app and made a small deposit to see if it was legitimate or not. But regrettably, I was duped by how much they broke away from the pattern they had been adhering to. However, it taught me a valuable lesson since, after that, I didn't follow any pattern at all, and gambling is purely based on luck, skills, and technique. Another friend of mine claims that there is a pattern to the game, and since I don't understand it at all, I stopped playing and believed the game wasn't for me.

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That is true.
2 days ago, I won twice x500 in Keno on the same pattern. I let it run for 20k+ more bets and it never hit that multiplier again, I didn't change a single number. The next day, I ran it again for 10k+ bets and it didn't hit again. Now, I am also back to looking at what numbers come out the most.
The system changes, the house edge will run, and we cannot expect the same thing will happen every day just because we feel like we are lucky. I've learned my lesson the hard way but I did enjoy finding the numbers in Keno that would get me back all the losses that I made. Truthfully, it's not an easy task finding them but that's where I find joy in gambling. The hunt for luck and maybe later I will find it again and hit a good multiplier where I could rest easy in finding the next jackpot.

Also, I think it all happens after the reset of the wager race. Most of the time I can win back my losses after the race so that may be the cue for the system reset.

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I always look for patterns I cant help it and yet I agree with OP its a thankless task to look for what is very often beyond reach in terms of any viable solution. To think there is an absolute pattern that can be found is especially unlikely but I still believe there is a pattern of better odds available in some instances or behavior a player could put into practice. The main deal is dont take it too literal as being for sure but I wouldnt be closed off to the idea completely either its not impossible I think we know that.

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