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Quote from: coin-investor on March 03, 2024, 10:51:49 AM

I always tell and advise my friends who are new to gambling to never look for a pattern in luck-based games because there is none even the ever-popular martingale is not a guarantee that you can find a pattern that will give you a continuous win.

The moment you start developing an urge to create a maneuver or pathway to win without losing, you become the casino's prey. If he'll like to listen to your advice, that'd be good for him.

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I have a friend who boasted that he had found a pattern where it allowed him to win 10 successive bets on Mine Sweeper, he used that pattern two successive days with success but unfortunately for him on the third day those patterns are not working anymore even on the 4th and fifth days, now he is back on the drawing board again..

On one of my previous post, I kept holding my emphasis against the experiences you've had previously as gambler, as compared to the ones you haven't had personally.. This is it! You warned him against the odds of not getting lucky everyday with his analysis but, he really had to think too less of the casino's domain maintenance team to have refused your advice. Nothing is kept just the way it is; Let's say you picked westham utd to win against Man City on a virtual sport game with any provider at all and it cuts, do you expect the bigger odd on westham to win against City on the next round or prolly, in every round?

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I am not finding for any pattern anymore to any game that I do. Obviously, most of the luck based games will give you no pattern even if you think that you've one. That's likely a placebo effect for you to think of for which you've experienced winning. But in reality, they're just coincidence that you have seen. Other than that, all of those are based on your luck and fortunately, you've won if ever it becomes a 2-day streak. But as someone that have been gambling for so long, we all knew about that it's not going to last long.

There are strategies that could last a day, a two or a week but still at the end of it, you'd definitely going to see that it won't last and there will be an ending for all of it. No matter how good you are at spotting strategies, they'll remain as strategies and the results of it will vary as you play them continuously. Don't be too confident if you're lucky today and that's why it's also important to take profits as much as you can and secure it before you decide to continue to gamble. Because as you continue, you'll never know if that's the last chance that you'll be getting for being lucky and if you have no control to yourself, you'd definitely gonna lose your accumulated money through your luck.

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Quote from: coin-investor on March 03, 2024, 10:51:49 AM

I always tell and advise my friends who are new to gambling to never look for a pattern in luck-based games because there is none even the ever-popular martingale is not a guarantee that you can find a pattern that will give you a continuous win.

There is no point in looking for something that doesn't exist.

There is only one rule in gambling, which is that the longer you play, the higher the probability of losing. This is the same RTP, which is 95%.

Quote from: coin-investor on March 03, 2024, 10:51:49 AM

I have a friend who boasted that he had found a pattern where it allowed him to win 10 successive bets on Mine Sweeper, he used that pattern two successive days with success but unfortunately for him on the third day those patterns are not working anymore even on the 4th and fifth days, now he is back on the drawing board again..

Use this example every time someone claims to have found a pattern in gambling.

Quote from: coin-investor on March 03, 2024, 10:51:49 AM

I told him that the house edge plays out and since this is luck based game what works now may not work tomorrow every day is a new session with new patterns

You can call it luck, or you can call it probability theory and number theory. The result for the bet will not change.

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How about you have you at one time of your gambling experience experienced finding patterns that you think are effective and consistent only to find out later after several days that it's not working anymore..

Personally, what I found was that the more I played, the smaller my deposit balance became.

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And are you still looking for patterns that you think will work in the long run for you.

No, I'm not looking for anything anymore.

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Quote from: DubemIfedigbo001 on July 03, 2024, 04:14:09 PM

Looking for patterns isn't a bad thing, gambling is for fun and to have such fun, you got to have a strategy, but before you develop a strategy, be sure to have a gambling budget so as to set a threshold for your exploration

surprisingly a lot of people actually do enjoy finding a pattern not necessarily because of the benefits it offers but the process of it and then the satisfaction afterwards.

To be honest I don't believe in patterns in gambling. But in the end people will still look for patterns and they enjoy it. People who look for patterns and think it will give them victory are ridiculous. Because if the pattern really exists then everyone will know about it and the bookie will go bankrupt. In gambling, patterns are random and no one knows because the system has been designed that way. Only luck will give you victory. But to be honest, I don't believe that patterns and slots will give you victory. In my opinion, victory in gambling is when you make a withdrawal.

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Quote from: KTChampions on July 05, 2024, 01:31:28 PM

At a long distance, no patterns work as casinos/bookmakers quickly identify them (thanks to progress and big data) and stop them. Once upon a time, memorizing cards worked in blackjack, once on sure bets worked in betting on sporting events, then betting against the favorite seemed to work. And many other things worked that I don’t know about, but sooner or later the casinos/bookmakers also found this weak point and corrected it. In order to find working patterns in modern conditions, you have to be either very lucky or very persistent, I don’t even know if it’s possible to do this on purpose.

If there is a strategy to win at casino, that means the casino will not be in business because as a revenue oriented business like casino it means the only thing that permitted is the house edge and every other things will be based on luck, and as long as casinos are concerned a gambler will never win over the house consistently.

But the luck can be on your side frequently most especially in games like sport bets which allows for some analysis before placing the bet.

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Quote from: coin-investor on March 03, 2024, 10:51:49 AM

I always tell and advise my friends who are new to gambling to never look for a pattern in luck-based games because there is none even the ever-popular martingale is not a guarantee that you can find a pattern that will give you a continuous win.

Not all games of gamling can be won continuously no matter how well you apply patterns. Therefore, you should not gamble regularly for a long time in the hope of winning something big or continuously winning. Gambling should always be done in a limited amount which can save you from its addiction. You should never encourage someone to game, no matter how close they are to you. Because it is very risky which can completely destroy a person. It's a bad addiction so it's foolish to think yourself clever here. no one can use any tricks to fool the gaming site or gaming algorithm

Even if the gambler will find a strategy that will be profitable in the long term, the analytical department of the casino quickly enough to find a hole in the system and patch it. The system should work to encourage the gambler, but not so much that it brings losses to the casino. Gambling is a zero-sum game so it is not so difficult to figure out which player is using the gap in the system. Therefore, professional gamblers are often forced to re-register at gambling sites because even they attract the attention of the security system.

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At a long distance, no patterns work as casinos/bookmakers quickly identify them (thanks to progress and big data) and stop them. Once upon a time, memorizing cards worked in blackjack, once on sure bets worked in betting on sporting events, then betting against the favorite seemed to work. And many other things worked that I don’t know about, but sooner or later the casinos/bookmakers also found this weak point and corrected it. In order to find working patterns in modern conditions, you have to be either very lucky or very persistent, I don’t even know if it’s possible to do this on purpose.

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Quote from: nimogsm on July 05, 2024, 06:55:37 AM

simply betting on your favorite team will not always bring profit. Sometimes the opponent can be much better and more serious. It is stupid to bet only on your favorite club just because you are a big fan of it.

Yes, it's just stupidity to bet on your favorite team when you know that they're not going to win because a stronger team can always win a weak one and if your favorite team is the weak one then you should either not place any bet in that match in order to show your support for your team or bet in favor of the team that stronger if you're looking to win the bet.

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Quote from: coin-investor on March 03, 2024, 10:51:49 AM

And are you still looking for patterns that you think will work in the long run for you.

There is no pattern to winning games when you are gambling, if people could actually find patterns, then they would run the bookmakers out of business. Even when you think you have found a pattern, it is nothing but superstitious beliefs, because if you were actually certain, you'd have wagered with all the money you have and even taken loans to do so.

I don't try to look out for patterns, i am honest enough to understand that most of the time, luck is the most important factor in gambling, so i do not think too much about things, i just gamble.

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Quote from: DubemIfedigbo001 on July 03, 2024, 04:14:09 PM

Looking for patterns isn't a bad thing, gambling is for fun and to have such fun, you got to have a strategy, but before you develop a strategy, be sure to have a gambling budget so as to set a threshold for your exploration

surprisingly a lot of people actually do enjoy finding a pattern not necessarily because of the benefits it offers but the process of it and then the satisfaction afterwards.

just in life you should learn how to learn when to stop exploring and start doing real work that could give you real money when we were young exploring was motivated but once you notice that your exploration do not bear any fruit then you should move on

Most times laziness makes people not to work and find real money, they thought that gamble is the easiest way to earn money without any stress, but to be frank gamble is more stressful than real job, my reasons is because as a person who is planning to earn a living from gamble you will dedicate more time to gamble as you will need concentration in other to predict the results of the games 100% or 99% accurate. However, there is nothing like 100% accurate in gamble when the results is not yet decided. Most times sport games are been postponed or cancelled and the potential money you would have gotten will either reduce or will not be decided until the game that was postponed kick off.

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Quote from: Z_MBFM on July 05, 2024, 11:18:06 AM

Quote from: coin-investor on March 03, 2024, 10:51:49 AM

I always tell and advise my friends who are new to gambling to never look for a pattern in luck-based games because there is none even the ever-popular martingale is not a guarantee that you can find a pattern that will give you a continuous win.

Not all games of gamling can be won continuously no matter how well you apply patterns. Therefore, you should not gamble regularly for a long time in the hope of winning something big or continuously winning. Gambling should always be done in a limited amount which can save you from its addiction. You should never encourage someone to game, no matter how close they are to you. Because it is very risky which can completely destroy a person. It's a bad addiction so it's foolish to think yourself clever here. no one can use any tricks to fool the gaming site or gaming algorithm

I didn't read OP advising his friends to gamble, OP only advised his friends who is new to gambling to never look for a pattern in luck-based games.
And that advice is good, because there is no such thing as a pattern - Believing in pattern is a gambler's fallacy, and making decisions/bets based on past results will only make us even more curious when we lose and careless when winning.

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Quote from: Z_MBFM on July 05, 2024, 11:18:06 AM

Quote from: coin-investor on March 03, 2024, 10:51:49 AM

I always tell and advise my friends who are new to gambling to never look for a pattern in luck-based games because there is none even the ever-popular martingale is not a guarantee that you can find a pattern that will give you a continuous win.

Not all games of gamling can be won continuously no matter how well you apply patterns. Therefore, you should not gamble regularly for a long time in the hope of winning something big or continuously winning. Gambling should always be done in a limited amount which can save you from its addiction. You should never encourage someone to game, no matter how close they are to you. Because it is very risky which can completely destroy a person. It's a bad addiction so it's foolish to think yourself clever here. no one can use any tricks to fool the gaming site or gaming algorithm

Yes, that's right, that's why from the start we have to understand that gambling is an activity that depends on luck, or that means anyone will only be able to win when luck comes at the right time, and regarding patterns or strategies, it's actually nothing more than something that can only help. get yourself closer to winning, especially when you bet on a type of sports betting that has statistics that can be analyzed, but in the end it is still unlikely for a gambler to win in a row, and I think there are many incidents that we can use as proof. that when someone uses greed to get more money, or when someone gambles too often then what usually happens is that they lose more money than they win. And this is also the reason why excessive actions are always prohibited in gambling.

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Quote from: coin-investor on March 03, 2024, 10:51:49 AM

I always tell and advise my friends who are new to gambling to never look for a pattern in luck-based games because there is none even the ever-popular martingale is not a guarantee that you can find a pattern that will give you a continuous win.

Not all games of gamling can be won continuously no matter how well you apply patterns. Therefore, you should not gamble regularly for a long time in the hope of winning something big or continuously winning. Gambling should always be done in a limited amount which can save you from its addiction. You should never encourage someone to game, no matter how close they are to you. Because it is very risky which can completely destroy a person. It's a bad addiction so it's foolish to think yourself clever here. no one can use any tricks to fool the gaming site or gaming algorithm

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Quote from: YOSHIE on July 05, 2024, 10:30:24 AM

Quote from: coin-investor on March 03, 2024, 10:51:49 AM

How about you have you at one time of your gambling experience experienced finding patterns that you think are effective and consistent only to find out later after several days that it's not working anymore.

I'm sure everyone here, especially those who gamble, have found patterns of luck in gambling, whether in slot games, Roulette, poker, dice and so on, that luck never comes a second time, What's more, the third and fourth and so on, any type of gambling is fully controlled by the operator, this is proven by investigators' confessions from several online gambling cases that were caught.

You don't understand anything. To begin with, the assumed patterns are nothing more than projections that we make on the series of mathematical events in an attempt to establish regularity. The operator does not control anything (I am talking about honest casinos) and besides there is an essential distinction between poker (PvP) and the rest of casino games, because in poker there is no House Edge. The dealing of cards from the deck, or in casino games the results of the roulette numbers are completely random. The casino does not need to control anything to make money. By simply setting up a random system it makes money on the House Edge. The casino game player who thinks he has found a pattern has had a couple or three times a series of results that seem similar to him and from there he goes on to establish conclusions, such as that if he has lost 20 consecutive spins and doubles the bet he will get a prize. But these patterns of similar events are completely normal in the random statistical distribution and have nothing to do with a regularity or a pattern.

Although I don't know why I go to such lengths to explain this because I doubt you will understand it.

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Quote from: coin-investor on March 03, 2024, 10:51:49 AM

How about you have you at one time of your gambling experience experienced finding patterns that you think are effective and consistent only to find out later after several days that it's not working anymore.

I'm sure everyone here, especially those who gamble, have found patterns of luck in gambling, whether in slot games, Roulette, poker, dice and so on, that luck never comes a second time, What's more, the third and fourth and so on, any type of gambling is fully controlled by the operator, this is proven by investigators' confessions from several online gambling cases that were caught.

I really understand that pattern, once I get a lucky pattern I don't waste it, at that time I have to do my best and never repeat it a second time tomorrow, It's clear the second time it's a real trap to drain all the bets placed, no matter friends say try again, there will definitely be luck again, no, once is enough.

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Quote from: rodskee on July 05, 2024, 05:37:40 AM

Quote from: DubemIfedigbo001 on July 03, 2024, 04:14:09 PM

Looking for patterns isn't a bad thing, gambling is for fun and to have such fun, you got to have a strategy, but before you develop a strategy, be sure to have a gambling budget so as to set a threshold for your exploration

surprisingly a lot of people actually do enjoy finding a pattern not necessarily because of the benefits it offers but the process of it and then the satisfaction afterwards.

just in life you should learn how to learn when to stop exploring and start doing real work that could give you real money when we were young exploring was motivated but once you notice that your exploration do not bear any fruit then you should move on

In contrast to you, exploration should necessarily be maintained at a young age because this is the golden time when you collapse and build the first foundations in your mind, no need for a clear result, simply you have lived and followed a model that you discovered, a path that you built and you dared to stand on that path. The benefit doesn't stay in the moment you build, it stays in the future, we can even throw away the original path when the endpoint is wrong with the calculation, in such a way, when we get old, we no longer have meaningless thoughts of exploration

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On the other hand, yes, I agree with you that actually winning does not depend on how good the strategy or methods or methods used by a gambler are, but because at that time they were lucky, nothing more than that, and if you or anyone else doesn't believe it then please If you try gambling again at a different time using the same strategy, chances are the results will not be the same as the previous session when you won. And that's why people always say that winning always happens by chance and is never known beforehand by a gambler, and in fact, regardless of what type of gambling you do, the fact is that luck is still very important to confirm victory.

Of course, luck plays important role in gambling but the power of strategy should not be underestimated. These two factors go hand in hand with gambling to guarantee winning. It’s just like a situation where two people intend to gamble and one has a plan to help him win while the other one solely relies on pure luck. It’s possible for the latter to win but in most cases, the former has higher chances because of the plans he employs. In as much as gambling is mostly based on luck, you need a strategy to increase your chance of winning. Luck will be avoiding you if you don’t make use of any strategy.

Indeed, there are gamblers who have a strategy that is believed to be able to produce a definite win, unfortunately not all types of gambling are based on a strategy to win, because there are types of gambling that do not require a strategy at all to win because they are based on pure luck alone. It does depend on luck, but there are gamblers who are still confident that the strategy they have found can result in winning. Even though the first party has a higher chance, that cannot be guaranteed. What's more, luck still has a big role in gambling. The strategy you have doesn't guarantee you can win because it only increases your chances of winning. The rest depends on whether luck will be on your side or not. . with those who managed to win today because with the strategy they have, it is not certain that they will be able to win again at gambling another day using the same strategy. and I think this is true because luck plays a role in gambling in determining whether the gambling we do will succeed in winning or not.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on July 05, 2024, 06:26:02 AM

On the other hand, yes, I agree with you that actually winning does not depend on how good the strategy or methods or methods used by a gambler are, but because at that time they were lucky, nothing more than that, and if you or anyone else doesn't believe it then please If you try gambling again at a different time using the same strategy, chances are the results will not be the same as the previous session when you won. And that's why people always say that winning always happens by chance and is never known beforehand by a gambler, and in fact, regardless of what type of gambling you do, the fact is that luck is still very important to confirm victory.

Of course, luck plays important role in gambling but the power of strategy should not be underestimated. These two factors go hand in hand with gambling to guarantee winning. It’s just like a situation where two people intend to gamble and one has a plan to help him win while the other one solely relies on pure luck. It’s possible for the latter to win but in most cases, the former has higher chances because of the plans he employs. In as much as gambling is mostly based on luck, you need a strategy to increase your chance of winning. Luck will be avoiding you if you don’t make use of any strategy.

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simply betting on your favorite team will not always bring profit. Sometimes the opponent can be much better and more serious. It is stupid to bet only on your favorite club just because you are a big fan of it. Sometimes sober thinking should be greater than love for the team.This is the first example that came to mind since I once knew such a fanatic of one club.

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Seems that you are contradicting yourself here how you made your statement but I believe what you meant here is that - you don't need to try looking for patterns because you won't be able to beat the house edge. And I am on this side because you are playing a luck-based game, no matter what strategy you will deploy - martingale, d'alembert's principle and more, luck is always in play aside from the house edge. The strategy may work for a time, but it doesn't mean it will always work for you.

A house edge seems different from being a luck-based game and even on a non-luck based game, house edge still exists and yeah, there is no way to dodge them. I think winning or losing, a casino can still get a cut in each of our bets (or so called " house edge "). In gambling, there are times that we are winning but it doesn't mean that what made us win are the strategy that we are using.

I am only referring on the game of luck here, since this is still our topic and I think strategies can still matter on a game of skill, even by just a little only. Using strategies in a game of luck like the ones you mentioned there can in fact deplete our balances quickly, so we must beware of them.

Of course, games of luck are only meant for gamblers and do not include casinos that have games, meaning that if a gambler wants to win then they have to wait for luck to come, but for casinos they will definitely always make a profit every time, because in gambling it is not only one or two people bet, of course there will always be some gamblers who lose and some who win at the same time, but usually there are more losers than winners and it is the losses that give the casino an advantage.

On the other hand, yes, I agree with you that actually winning does not depend on how good the strategy or methods or methods used by a gambler are, but because at that time they were lucky, nothing more than that, and if you or anyone else doesn't believe it then please If you try gambling again at a different time using the same strategy, chances are the results will not be the same as the previous session when you won. And that's why people always say that winning always happens by chance and is never known beforehand by a gambler, and in fact, regardless of what type of gambling you do, the fact is that luck is still very important to confirm victory.

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