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Quote from: DubemIfedigbo001 on July 03, 2024, 04:14:09 PM

Looking for patterns isn't a bad thing, gambling is for fun and to have such fun, you got to have a strategy, but before you develop a strategy, be sure to have a gambling budget so as to set a threshold for your exploration

surprisingly a lot of people actually do enjoy finding a pattern not necessarily because of the benefits it offers but the process of it and then the satisfaction afterwards.

just in life you should learn how to learn when to stop exploring and start doing real work that could give you real money when we were young exploring was motivated but once you notice that your exploration do not bear any fruit then you should move on

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Quote from: DubemIfedigbo001 on July 04, 2024, 01:40:10 PM

If you are gambling for fun, I don't think that you should stress yourself with looking for strategies that you will use to win your bet. Whatever will be the outcome of your bet will still be even if you use a new strategy.

I would not call strategic gambling fun, having a strategy is being creative and when I'm having fun, I even get more and more creative in order to entertain myself properly if possible, and lest I forget, when gambling and one pattern is not working right for you, its human to try crafting something else to see if your luck will shine. In all you need a gambling budget so you don't spice things up too much and hurt yourself.
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Playing gambling is for fun, not for other else so we don't have to experience lose much money. Many people already lose their money but they don't wants to realizes about that and still trying to win. Maybe they can wins today, but they can't win many times in other days so that is why they must realizes that gambling is just for fun and not for wins the games. We don't knows what pattern that will always work when playing gambling because gambling can not predicted and we can lose our money anytime. If we care with our money, we must always limits and not spends too much money so we don't have to regrets our lose in gambling. We can not always make a strategy that helps us to wins because we don't know when we will wins so we can only playing gambling for have fun.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on July 03, 2024, 05:31:14 PM

Seems that you are contradicting yourself here how you made your statement but I believe what you meant here is that - you don't need to try looking for patterns because you won't be able to beat the house edge. And I am on this side because you are playing a luck-based game, no matter what strategy you will deploy - martingale, d'alembert's principle and more, luck is always in play aside from the house edge. The strategy may work for a time, but it doesn't mean it will always work for you.

A house edge seems different from being a luck-based game and even on a non-luck based game, house edge still exists and yeah, there is no way to dodge them. I think winning or losing, a casino can still get a cut in each of our bets (or so called " house edge "). In gambling, there are times that we are winning but it doesn't mean that what made us win are the strategy that we are using.

I am only referring on the game of luck here, since this is still our topic and I think strategies can still matter on a game of skill, even by just a little only. Using strategies in a game of luck like the ones you mentioned there can in fact deplete our balances quickly, so we must beware of them.

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Quote from: Frankolala on July 04, 2024, 12:40:14 PM

Looking for different strategies will not help you to be lucky and you will still run at loss. You might think that your new gambling strategy is working in the beginning but later, you will start losi g which means that luck was what brought those wins to you which you thought was your new strategy.

Having strategy is not a bad thing, but not planning your gambling activities and setting outa budget makes it ugly, we are human beings and we love to spice things up right?, and doing something in the same way all the time seems boring, so its normal to get real crafty with your activities in gambling.

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If you are gambling for fun, I don't think that you should stress yourself with looking for strategies that you will use to win your bet. Whatever will be the outcome of your bet will still be even if you use a new strategy.

I would not call strategic gambling fun, having a strategy is being creative and when I'm having fun, I even get more and more creative in order to entertain myself properly if possible, and lest I forget, when gambling and one pattern is not working right for you, its human to try crafting something else to see if your luck will shine. In all you need a gambling budget so you don't spice things up too much and hurt yourself.

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For getting huge chance to win yes maybe they should not look for the pattern since its all useless if the game is based on luck since everything will be stir up then result may come not into their favor if they are experience what they called bad luck. That's why they just think about having fun here and don't do excessive on everything on a game which they are not sure since as been said house will always win that's why we should change our mindset here if some people think about its possible for them to earn a lot of profit. But if they are for fun then I guess looking at those patterns and execute it would bring us a lot of fun since we can try to test out something that maybe can work for us for short time and defeat something that can put us on heavy boredom.

As gambling is based on luck thing, it means it's not necessary for a gambler to depend on strategy of pattern because winning is by luck it means that there are times that your strategies and patterns will not make you to win rather you might have a cut 1 on your ticket. However there are also games that requires patterns and or predictions but it's obvious that it's not all the times that those patterns and strategies will work for us because and in support of the saying that what works today might not work tomorrow because of how things changes everyday. Odds change which means if you win today you might lose tomorrow or if you lose today you might win tomorrow.

Looking for different strategies will not help you to be lucky and you will still run at loss. You might think that your new gambling strategy is working in the beginning but later, you will start losi g which means that luck was what brought those wins to you which you thought was your new strategy.

If you are gambling for fun, I don't think that you should stress yourself with looking for strategies that you will use to win your bet. Whatever will be the outcome of your bet will still be even if you use a new strategy.

Yes, that's true and in fact in gambling there is no single way that is truly effective to increase or even ensure victory at the end of the session, or simply whatever method you use, even if for example you believe that it is a good strategy to apply but still for The problem is that the results at the end of the session will never be known or that means this method will not be able to ensure that you will be able to win. I will state a fact that in gambling there is no way to actually win, but a gambler can only minimize all his actions to reduce the possibility of losing significant amounts of money.

Winning depends on luck and the risk of losing depends on how well a gambler controls himself and maintains planning that leads to preventive measures, such as limiting the amount of his budget and gambling time. Therefore, this is the reason why when a gambler tries to chase victory, what usually happens is that they suffer more losses, therefore this is also why we always recommend focusing better on risk management such as implementing controls and limits to minimize the number of losses. .

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Quote from: boty on March 07, 2024, 12:17:06 AM

Of course we shouldn't look for patterns that can win our bets if the game we play is luck, because that just wastes our time and the game will just go on and if we get lucky then we will win and if we're lucky If it's not on our side then we won't win the bet, so if we keep trying to find a pattern to win the game, of course this will make us unable to enjoy the game we are playing.
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In simple terms, if you play a luck-based game, you don't need to be tired of looking for patterns, because you won't be able to beat the house edge. No matter how smart you are, no matter how good you are at finding patterns in the game, you will not be able to beat the algorithm that has been designed by the casino platform - which always puts them in the upper hand compared to the gamblers.

For getting huge chance to win yes maybe they should not look for the pattern since its all useless if the game is based on luck since everything will be stir up then result may come not into their favor if they are experience what they called bad luck. That's why they just think about having fun here and don't do excessive on everything on a game which they are not sure since as been said house will always win that's why we should change our mindset here if some people think about its possible for them to earn a lot of profit. But if they are for fun then I guess looking at those patterns and execute it would bring us a lot of fun since we can try to test out something that maybe can work for us for short time and defeat something that can put us on heavy boredom.

As gambling is based on luck thing, it means it's not necessary for a gambler to depend on strategy of pattern because winning is by luck it means that there are times that your strategies and patterns will not make you to win rather you might have a cut 1 on your ticket. However there are also games that requires patterns and or predictions but it's obvious that it's not all the times that those patterns and strategies will work for us because and in support of the saying that what works today might not work tomorrow because of how things changes everyday. Odds change which means if you win today you might lose tomorrow or if you lose today you might win tomorrow.

Looking for different strategies will not help you to be lucky and you will still run at loss. You might think that your new gambling strategy is working in the beginning but later, you will start losi g which means that luck was what brought those wins to you which you thought was your new strategy.

If you are gambling for fun, I don't think that you should stress yourself with looking for strategies that you will use to win your bet. Whatever will be the outcome of your bet will still be even if you use a new strategy.

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Quote from: coin-investor on March 03, 2024, 10:51:49 AM

How about you have you at one time of your gambling experience experienced finding patterns that you think are effective and consistent only to find out later after several days that it's not working anymore..

And are you still looking for patterns that you think will work in the long run for you.

I never try to find patterns in luck-based games, because it's quite difficult and still depends on luck in the end, I myself without getting a pattern can get a victory.

I don't know where the mindset comes from that there is a pattern that can be tried to get a win, I think it sounds strange, is it from the bookie itself or is there really a pattern in a game, or maybe it's just a marketing technique for gamblers to find a pattern by playing the same game several times and finding the answer which in the end uses more money to gamble?

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Quote from: moneystery on July 04, 2024, 11:31:51 AM

if it is a game that relies on luck, no matter what strategy he uses to win, then the result will still be the same that the casino will win, because from the beginning the casino uses an algorithm that makes it more profitable than the players. if your friend understands the algorithm and house edge, then he should understand this and stop using the patterns he believes in to win because it is indeed useless at all.

Well, the casino will no doubt to have the edge at most times. But that algorithm is also being set to have some winners with huge amounts.

Not that balance at all but there's provably fair that's still being implemented. You are correct about those games that rely on luck and no matter how good your accuracy and winning rate are.

You can't beat the system and that's the reality.

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In reality, it is a natural tendency for us to have this fixation on following patterns and then believing that they repeat themselves.

In the case of poker, there are game statistics that you can analyze by the same situation that the player has of following guidelines, so if you have already played against him, the skill comes, he will continue making a continuation bet or he wants to trick me... That is why poker is so nice, it is not just about a bet...

That phrase from this thread works very well in poker.

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Quote from: moneystery on July 04, 2024, 11:31:51 AM

if it is a game that relies on luck, no matter what strategy he uses to win, then the result will still be the same that the casino will win, because from the beginning the casino uses an algorithm that makes it more profitable than the players. if your friend understands the algorithm and house edge, then he should understand this and stop using the patterns he believes in to win because it is indeed useless at all.

While I agree with what you say about gambling and the actual uselessness of strategies, we must understand and important factor and that is why so many gamblers fall into the illusion of believing they found a "pattern" or strategy which will indefinitely work for them to get money from the casino: naturally each human being is biologically adapted to identity patterns and use them for survival and improvement. That is what many of the scientific knowledge is based upon, actually.
The only branch of science which does not apply to the following of patterns is statistics, the Gauss distribution of chances is the only pattern which could be applied on gambling and yet, it cannot be used to abuse the probalities, only can be used to understand the chances one has to earn or lose money based on the multipliers and the number of sessions, dice rolls, slot spins, etc...

So even though I try to tell people to stay away from false patterns, I cannot blame them for seeing them, as it is part of human nature to try to do so.

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if it is a game that relies on luck, no matter what strategy he uses to win, then the result will still be the same that the casino will win, because from the beginning the casino uses an algorithm that makes it more profitable than the players. if your friend understands the algorithm and house edge, then he should understand this and stop using the patterns he believes in to win because it is indeed useless at all.

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Quote from: coin-investor on March 03, 2024, 10:51:49 AM

How about you have you at one time of your gambling experience experienced finding patterns that you think are effective and consistent only to find out later after several days that it's not working anymore..

Yes of course, I usually use a pattern that worked for me, someday it will work, and will not workout somedays too. I have tried several patterns which includes the single betting pattern,the multiple pattern and the flex patter that if I select 10 games and 1 or 2 cuts I will still be paid. Even as that, some weeks a particular pattern will works true out that period and it will be a win win and after some times it will not work, so I will have to switch again. Sometimes all pattern will not work.

Quote from: coin-investor on March 03, 2024, 10:51:49 AM

And are you still looking for patterns that you think will work in the long run for you.

I don't think there is any pattern that can work in a long run since gambling is all about luck. I have seen some couples of friends who thought they have a particular pattern that works for a long run, yet they where disappointed because they never expect what they saw. It's just to keep the head straight and gamble what you can afford to lose. Gambling is not what to have high hopes on because you may be disappointed when you get what you least expect. By then you may have spent all your fund hoping to double your hustle.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on July 03, 2024, 05:31:14 PM

Quote from: retreat on March 08, 2024, 12:26:49 AM

Quote from: boty on March 07, 2024, 12:17:06 AM

Of course we shouldn't look for patterns that can win our bets if the game we play is luck, because that just wastes our time and the game will just go on and if we get lucky then we will win and if we're lucky If it's not on our side then we won't win the bet, so if we keep trying to find a pattern to win the game, of course this will make us unable to enjoy the game we are playing.
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In simple terms, if you play a luck-based game, you don't need to be tired of looking for patterns, because you won't be able to beat the house edge. No matter how smart you are, no matter how good you are at finding patterns in the game, you will not be able to beat the algorithm that has been designed by the casino platform - which always puts them in the upper hand compared to the gamblers.

Seems that you are contradicting yourself here how you made your statement but I believe what you meant here is that - you don't need to try looking for patterns because you won't be able to beat the house edge. And I am on this side because you are playing a luck-based game, no matter what strategy you will deploy - martingale, d'alembert's principle and more, luck is always in play aside from the house edge. The strategy may work for a time, but it doesn't mean it will always work for you.

On the moment that you do make yourself chasing up with some patterns then you would really be definitely be ending up on trying to make different strategies until they would work. In result?
You would really be that definitely making yourself having that kind of messed up financial condition because of gambling. Gambling should really be treated up for the sake of fun and not
for making money or having that kind of approach towards it because on the moment that you do find yourself that being too greedy and desperate then it would really be causing up that so much
problem on the moment that you would realize that you are losing that money.

Strategy could somehow make things spice a bit when you do gamble because you cant really just that play up without having those things specially if you are dealing with some
games on which you would really be needing up to be strategic. This is why it would really be that important that you should really know on what you are doing.

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Quote from: Zigabel on July 03, 2024, 06:32:36 PM

With sports games, sometimes, patterns can get to work but you will have to make sure to know when it applies, a typical example is with the strength of teams when they meet, either in football games or in basketball games, team games can create patterns that if noticed can be used for a very long term but the challenge has always been in identifying and noticing them.

Yes, that's true, simply because games like football and baseball have physical parameters which can be measured to determine the future outcome of a possible event with the help of the gambler's knowledge and skills of previous performance, unlike a normal casino game like slots which has no exact patterns but works as a result of random agorithm, hence making it difficult to arrive at or draw a long term workable gambling pattern. Which happens to be one advantage casino operators have over gamblers, as such difficulty of arriving at a workable pattern is what helps casino generate tons of revenue when gamblers try and fail.

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Quote from: coin-investor on March 03, 2024, 10:51:49 AM

How about you have you at one time of your gambling experience experienced finding patterns that you think are effective and consistent only to find out later after several days that it's not working anymore..

And are you still looking for patterns that you think will work in the long run for you.

The fact about patterns especially with casino games is that they are never a long term thing, they will change sometimes sooner than you expected but in the period of time you noticed them and are able to utilize it, make sure to make the best of the patterns and make as much profit as you can then try to notice the change in pattern when it happens quick enough to change, the mistake some gamblers make is believing they are going to see that pattern happen too often a d they will get disappointed when it changes because they had made their selves believe they have gotten a hack and are going to make a ton of money only to get disappointed sooner due to house edge.

With sports games, sometimes, patterns can get to work but you will have to make sure to know when it applies, a typical example is with the strength of teams when they meet, either in football games or in basketball games, team games can create patterns that if noticed can be used for a very long term but the challenge has always been in identifying and noticing them.

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Quote from: retreat on March 08, 2024, 12:26:49 AM

Quote from: boty on March 07, 2024, 12:17:06 AM

Of course we shouldn't look for patterns that can win our bets if the game we play is luck, because that just wastes our time and the game will just go on and if we get lucky then we will win and if we're lucky If it's not on our side then we won't win the bet, so if we keep trying to find a pattern to win the game, of course this will make us unable to enjoy the game we are playing.
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In simple terms, if you play a luck-based game, you don't need to be tired of looking for patterns, because you won't be able to beat the house edge. No matter how smart you are, no matter how good you are at finding patterns in the game, you will not be able to beat the algorithm that has been designed by the casino platform - which always puts them in the upper hand compared to the gamblers.

Seems that you are contradicting yourself here how you made your statement but I believe what you meant here is that - you don't need to try looking for patterns because you won't be able to beat the house edge. And I am on this side because you are playing a luck-based game, no matter what strategy you will deploy - martingale, d'alembert's principle and more, luck is always in play aside from the house edge. The strategy may work for a time, but it doesn't mean it will always work for you.

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Quote from: retreat on March 08, 2024, 12:26:49 AM

Quote from: boty on March 07, 2024, 12:17:06 AM

Of course we shouldn't look for patterns that can win our bets if the game we play is luck, because that just wastes our time and the game will just go on and if we get lucky then we will win and if we're lucky If it's not on our side then we won't win the bet, so if we keep trying to find a pattern to win the game, of course this will make us unable to enjoy the game we are playing.
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In simple terms, if you play a luck-based game, you don't need to be tired of looking for patterns, because you won't be able to beat the house edge. No matter how smart you are, no matter how good you are at finding patterns in the game, you will not be able to beat the algorithm that has been designed by the casino platform - which always puts them in the upper hand compared to the gamblers.

Gambling is always a game of luck that one can't tell what will be the outcome of a game. The strategy that was used before now to win a game can be the same strategy that can still even make one to lose more because in gambling their is no particular strategy in winning. Sinc gambling is like this it will be best if people be their self while gambling and not trying to win by all means, gambling with the amount of money that they can't be able to afford to lose. Gambling can never be predicted so it is better not to be too serious with it trying to win by all means because it is not a guarantee to win.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on July 03, 2024, 04:43:04 PM

As gambling is based on luck thing, it means it's not necessary for a gambler to depend on strategy of pattern because winning is by luck it means that there are times that your strategies and patterns will not make you to win rather you might have a cut 1 on your ticket.

Gambling is more about luck but you can not just depend on being lucky because that is what most people are also doing. To increase your chances of winning you have to do things that can increase that chances and not just depend on luck. You can decide to only gamble through games that you know very well which will make you to do the things perfectly that you know can make you to win. When a gambler that has some experience gambles, he is going to win more than a beginner that do not have any idea yet but still went on to stake his money to gamble. A gambler needs to have a strategy that he will use to gamble but he has to be flexible and not depend totally on that strategy because it would not work for him all the time.

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Quote from: rachael9385 on July 03, 2024, 04:43:04 PM

As gambling is based on luck thing, it means it's not necessary for a gambler to depend on strategy of pattern because winning is by luck it means that there are times that your strategies and patterns will not make you to win rather you might have a cut 1 on your ticket. However there are also games that requires patterns and or predictions but it's obvious that it's not all the times that those patterns and strategies will work for us because and in support of the saying that what works today might not work tomorrow because of how things changes everyday. Odds change which means if you win today you might lose tomorrow or if you lose today you might win tomorrow.

You're getting the whole thing wrong buddy. Since it is based on luck doesn't mean that one should not align his gambling to a well-structured pattern. Those strategies are what determine the luck or create an opportunity to win in gambling. Of a true one can actually win by luck if they get to choose any pick. But should we continue to keep our hopes on luck?

My advice to any gambler is that they should have a pattern or habit of gambling and let luck do its thing. We should not hope on luck to win, we will find out that our chances of being lucky will be limited if we act ignorant to these things.

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Quote from: ultrloa on March 08, 2024, 03:27:23 AM

Quote from: retreat on March 08, 2024, 12:26:49 AM

Quote from: boty on March 07, 2024, 12:17:06 AM

Of course we shouldn't look for patterns that can win our bets if the game we play is luck, because that just wastes our time and the game will just go on and if we get lucky then we will win and if we're lucky If it's not on our side then we won't win the bet, so if we keep trying to find a pattern to win the game, of course this will make us unable to enjoy the game we are playing.
-snip-

In simple terms, if you play a luck-based game, you don't need to be tired of looking for patterns, because you won't be able to beat the house edge. No matter how smart you are, no matter how good you are at finding patterns in the game, you will not be able to beat the algorithm that has been designed by the casino platform - which always puts them in the upper hand compared to the gamblers.

For getting huge chance to win yes maybe they should not look for the pattern since its all useless if the game is based on luck since everything will be stir up then result may come not into their favor if they are experience what they called bad luck. That's why they just think about having fun here and don't do excessive on everything on a game which they are not sure since as been said house will always win that's why we should change our mindset here if some people think about its possible for them to earn a lot of profit. But if they are for fun then I guess looking at those patterns and execute it would bring us a lot of fun since we can try to test out something that maybe can work for us for short time and defeat something that can put us on heavy boredom.

As gambling is based on luck thing, it means it's not necessary for a gambler to depend on strategy of pattern because winning is by luck it means that there are times that your strategies and patterns will not make you to win rather you might have a cut 1 on your ticket. However there are also games that requires patterns and or predictions but it's obvious that it's not all the times that those patterns and strategies will work for us because and in support of the saying that what works today might not work tomorrow because of how things changes everyday. Odds change which means if you win today you might lose tomorrow or if you lose today you might win tomorrow.

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