What you miss about a superstar leaving your team? - page 2.

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Quote from: Fiatless on December 15, 2024, 08:51:33 PM

Quote from: Accardo on December 15, 2024, 08:52:18 AM

There is a difference when a star player fits into the team. In football some days you'd need the intervention of a star to beat your opponent. It's great to work as a team and know the value of each other, but a star who is fine in striking can boost the tempo of the team player after scoring a goal or two. It's not just complete to be in a team with no special player. However a stat player can be worthless if the team play is not there. "A tree won't make a forest"

Every club desire to have a star player who can turn the fortune of the club in difficult situations. The players are usually talented and work extraordinarily hard. Besides Mbappe, I players remember Zidane and Hazard who could use the slightest chance to turn the game around.

The success of the club depends on all the players and that is why teamwork is encouraged. But we cannot deny that there are some players who possess extraordinary abilities and every club needs to have at least two of them in a match.

A star will be a special attraction for a team, but in terms of the game it will clearly be based on team play, not the play of a star or individual. However, star players are also usually used as tactics, for example the opponent will apply tight guarding and will put 2 players to guard the player. With that, it will certainly create a gap for other players to enter. I have seen this a lot from several teams that play, which can finally bear sweet fruit for the team. However, once again, the team's game must also run very well, because teamwork will have a greater impact on determining the results of the team's match.

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Quote from: Accardo on December 15, 2024, 08:52:18 AM

There is a difference when a star player fits into the team. In football some days you'd need the intervention of a star to beat your opponent. It's great to work as a team and know the value of each other, but a star who is fine in striking can boost the tempo of the team player after scoring a goal or two. It's not just complete to be in a team with no special player. However a stat player can be worthless if the team play is not there. "A tree won't make a forest"

Every club desire to have a star player who can turn the fortune of the club in difficult situations. The players are usually talented and work extraordinarily hard. Besides Mbappe, I players remember Zidane and Hazard who could use the slightest chance to turn the game around.

The success of the club depends on all the players and that is why teamwork is encouraged. But we cannot deny that there are some players who possess extraordinary abilities and every club needs to have at least two of them in a match.

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Quote from: Accardo on October 26, 2024, 12:39:50 PM

Superstars always color matches and help their team win games in times of difficult games. And when they leave there is always something to miss about them, the fan love, fans switching clubs, and most important the team losing top notch performance.

Well it's actually true that fans are always left with scars on them after a player has left their club. But most time it depends on the value of such player. Some player are worthy of thinking about while some are a jubilation for the fans depending on the impact they created on the club before leaving. But to me I don't see so much important of losing a good player to another club, because football game is like Barack "soldier goes, soldier comes but Barack remain the same" meaning that, as best players are leaving also more important player are coming to replace the one that left. And sometimes too it is easy to lose a player an and difficult to find a replacement.

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Quote from: Agbe on December 15, 2024, 09:49:40 AM

A superstar leaving a team affect many things. The psychological thinking of the fans and the fellow players who loves him. And if the new players that are coming is not skillful enough to tackle the angle the outgoing player was playing, it will also affect the performance of the team. But if the incoming players are good then everyone will be happy but only some of the players who were very close to the former player would be affected because of their relationship. And in most time some of the fans also follow the superstar to the new team and reducing the fans in the former team and increasing the new team.

Two things happens when a supestar player leaves a club, it's either the replacement is better than the player or he flops. It can't never be a scenario when the player matches exactly the outgoing player everything. It's only on rare occasions, can we have something like that happening hence the performance of the team will get affected when a superstar leaves the club. Some club use this disappointment as a perfect reason to not put too much hopes on their star players and now clubs are having more than one star players incase they lose own, they still have another one that they can depend on to carry the the team to bigger heights. While they build or buy a new superstar to be a backup plan incase of further disappointment.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on December 14, 2024, 11:53:34 PM

Technically your correct however having a star is a plus factor since the team gain more viewership and support due to the star player charisma which they preferred since they are business after all.

Besides, having a normal teammates with star can make them formidable since a star player is a reliable player in crucial times compared to teams that has an average players since they usually crumble on crucial times.

Along with that while any team has a superstar who has a name and fame the team get good number of sponsor ship and from the sponsor they can get a good amount of money. While Messi joined on PSG they earned handsome money by selling jersy.

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Quote from: shasan on December 14, 2024, 06:47:58 PM

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But unfortunately Neymar lost his name, even he is not like some other stars and many have begun to forget his performance as Barcelona or PSG player and now Neymar is known as Al Hilal most expensive player who cannot work according to his price because of several injury problems that he always experiences.
I have not heard people say Neymar greatness with some previous team for long time and this is quite sad.

Actually no one can keep his name for a lifetime today or tomorrow the name of the person will fade away and Neymar is not out of that. For the injury and not performing well I think on the next contract I think the demand for Neymar will decrease and the rate of him will be decreased too.

Al Hilal can't be so proud of buying Neymar but it's one of those things, he is a good player and it is not the end for him. His issue started when he couldn't secure a better offer from Europe anymore, the injuries and dwindling performance caused that. Instead for this to stop, it is persistent, I can only wish the guy a lasting recovery and good luck. Even at that, he now needs to build the name again and I can't agree less that he was a better name than this but age is another thing, and that's certainly not on his side again, even as he must have lost enough fan base.

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A superstar leaving a team affect many things. The psychological thinking of the fans and the fellow players who loves him. And if the new players that are coming is not skillful enough to tackle the angle the outgoing player was playing, it will also affect the performance of the team. But if the incoming players are good then everyone will be happy but only some of the players who were very close to the former player would be affected because of their relationship. And in most time some of the fans also follow the superstar to the new team and reducing the fans in the former team and increasing the new team.

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Quote from: Accardo on October 27, 2024, 06:52:37 AM

For instance, when Messi left Barca most people who loved his charisma stopped watching Barcelona matches and moved on to his next club. Probably, it affects how gamblers stake money, and naturally observing the strength, skill, and building of footballers is a criteria for gamers.

I remember liking José Mourinho while he was Chelsea FC"s manager and was excited to watch Chelsea's matches whenever they played. When Mourinho left for Inter Milan I never followed him. I stayed with Chelsea and kept watching their matches. It's the same way I see players switching clubs. I won't follow anyone. I rather stayed with the former clubs and do my betting with them because I understand them better than the new club.

It's obvious how fans of these stars make them their centre of attraction while neglecting other team members. In team sports, no man exists on their own. They need the rest of the team to achieve a feat. So, if we're going to single out a player for greatness and then place a bet on the team he plays for without taking a complete evaluation of the entire team and its capacity for victory, it simply means it's poor judgment.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on December 15, 2024, 08:24:01 AM

Quote from: Su-asa on November 20, 2024, 12:17:27 PM

Personally, I don't think think it should be much of a big deal if the teams can be in good form without that star player. It's better to have a team with 11 players that are good than a team with only two star players that are good. There's a reason why they are called a team, a star player shouldn't determine the effectiveness of a team they should be good with or without that player. This is the reason why I don't like a club with too many superstars, overtime they tend to mess up due to the fact that a lot of reliance would be on them, this is just my opinion on this.

Maybe there will be a decrease on their performance so coach should take care of this and trying to support them more. But if the player can not trying to improve their skills or performance when the star player leaves, they will not have a chance to sustain when they meet the opponent in the match. A star player can give more support to player on the team but if the player can not lift their performance, that will not be good for the team. It could be a new selection to have a new player that can play with their performance and will lift their performance from time to time and not reliance to start player. They will not care if their team have star player or not but they only want to have the best performance every time they play.

I agree that performance would decrease, as there will be less hype, less fans would cheer team, team mates would expect a more help during the game (from my experience, when there is a skilled player in the game, it makes other easier to play). If we speak about large sports clubs, then when the star leaves, game attendance and merch sales decreases, perhaps some sponsors might also leave. This all in total could lead to athletes salaries being decreased. And when someone is paid less than usual, not always he is giving all of himself during game.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on December 15, 2024, 08:24:01 AM

Quote from: Su-asa on November 20, 2024, 12:17:27 PM

Personally, I don't think think it should be much of a big deal if the teams can be in good form without that star player. It's better to have a team with 11 players that are good than a team with only two star players that are good. There's a reason why they are called a team, a star player shouldn't determine the effectiveness of a team they should be good with or without that player. This is the reason why I don't like a club with too many superstars, overtime they tend to mess up due to the fact that a lot of reliance would be on them, this is just my opinion on this.

Maybe there will be a decrease on their performance so coach should take care of this and trying to support them more. But if the player can not trying to improve their skills or performance when the star player leaves, they will not have a chance to sustain when they meet the opponent in the match. A star player can give more support to player on the team but if the player can not lift their performance, that will not be good for the team. It could be a new selection to have a new player that can play with their performance and will lift their performance from time to time and not reliance to start player. They will not care if their team have star player or not but they only want to have the best performance every time they play.

There is a difference when a star player fits into the team. In football some days you'd need the intervention of a star to beat your opponent. It's great to work as a team and know the value of each other, but a star who is fine in striking can boost the tempo of the team player after scoring a goal or two. It's not just complete to be in a team with no special player. However a stat player can be worthless if the team play is not there. "A tree won't make a forest"

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Quote from: Su-asa on November 20, 2024, 12:17:27 PM

Personally, I don't think think it should be much of a big deal if the teams can be in good form without that star player. It's better to have a team with 11 players that are good than a team with only two star players that are good. There's a reason why they are called a team, a star player shouldn't determine the effectiveness of a team they should be good with or without that player. This is the reason why I don't like a club with too many superstars, overtime they tend to mess up due to the fact that a lot of reliance would be on them, this is just my opinion on this.

Maybe there will be a decrease on their performance so coach should take care of this and trying to support them more. But if the player can not trying to improve their skills or performance when the star player leaves, they will not have a chance to sustain when they meet the opponent in the match. A star player can give more support to player on the team but if the player can not lift their performance, that will not be good for the team. It could be a new selection to have a new player that can play with their performance and will lift their performance from time to time and not reliance to start player. They will not care if their team have star player or not but they only want to have the best performance every time they play.

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Quote from: crwth on December 15, 2024, 03:49:48 AM

Well, we all know that when a superstar is on your team, it would be a notable presence, like in PSG with Mbappe, and we know that having the player could significantly make a difference in a match. It's different with performance; the consistency could be different when different talents are on the field. Another thing I will miss is the fans cheering for that superstar because many people go to matches to see the players.

We all know there will be more; maybe young talent or something could fill those gaps.

True, it all depends on whether the fan is rooting for the team as a whole, or if he likes only one player, like the aforementioned Mbappe. And it turns out that if he leaves PSG, then his fans will most likely think about rooting for the team he leaves for.

I don’t like when such transfers happen because you need to get used to something new, and the old glorious times of good teams are in the past in this case. But as a rule, team owners try to keep the team in the same lineup, since the guys have teamwork.

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Well, we all know that when a superstar is on your team, it would be a notable presence, like in PSG with Mbappe, and we know that having the player could significantly make a difference in a match. It's different with performance; the consistency could be different when different talents are on the field. Another thing I will miss is the fans cheering for that superstar because many people go to matches to see the players.

We all know there will be more; maybe young talent or something could fill those gaps.

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Quote from: Su-asa on November 20, 2024, 12:17:27 PM

Personally, I don't think think it should be much of a big deal if the teams can be in good form without that star player. It's better to have a team with 11 players that are good than a team with only two star players that are good. There's a reason why they are called a team, a star player shouldn't determine the effectiveness of a team they should be good with or without that player. This is the reason why I don't like a club with too many superstars, overtime they tend to mess up due to the fact that a lot of reliance would be on them, this is just my opinion on this.

Technically your correct however having a star is a plus factor since the team gain more viewership and support due to the star player charisma which they preferred since they are business after all.

Besides, having a normal teammates with star can make them formidable since a star player is a reliable player in crucial times compared to teams that has an average players since they usually crumble on crucial times.

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Quote from: shasan on December 14, 2024, 06:47:58 PM

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But unfortunately Neymar lost his name, even he is not like some other stars and many have begun to forget his performance as Barcelona or PSG player and now Neymar is known as Al Hilal most expensive player who cannot work according to his price because of several injury problems that he always experiences.
I have not heard people say Neymar greatness with some previous team for long time and this is quite sad.

Actually no one can keep his name for a lifetime today or tomorrow the name of the person will fade away and Neymar is not out of that. For the injury and not performing well I think on the next contract I think the demand for Neymar will decrease and the rate of him will be decreased too.

Yes, this is indeed true on which popularity and greatness will come and pass away yet we wont really be on our prime years forever on which we these good athlete or players/fighters and whatsoever will come into a point that they do get aged and since we do know that these are people who are prone to injuries on which even if they arent that old but once a serious injury will happen then it will really be costing up your entire career. Yes, you've been known but if you cant be able to maintain out that kind of popularity because of some due reasons then you will be patched up with something whose that making up some buzz as of this moment. This had been always the main cycle but the good thing that once you have established yourself on being a legend player/fighter/athlete then it will always be remembered that you have once been a good or the greatest of all. In talks about superstar leaving on a certain team then it doesnt matter as long you are fan of him/her then you will be following no matter what the team his been into. The only issue on here is on making up adjustments at the time that they had been into a certain new team on which adjustments is really that needed.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on November 16, 2024, 11:16:11 PM

But unfortunately Neymar lost his name, even he is not like some other stars and many have begun to forget his performance as Barcelona or PSG player and now Neymar is known as Al Hilal most expensive player who cannot work according to his price because of several injury problems that he always experiences.
I have not heard people say Neymar greatness with some previous team for long time and this is quite sad.

Actually no one can keep his name for a lifetime today or tomorrow the name of the person will fade away and Neymar is not out of that. For the injury and not performing well I think on the next contract I think the demand for Neymar will decrease and the rate of him will be decreased too.

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Personally, I don't think think it should be much of a big deal if the teams can be in good form without that star player. It's better to have a team with 11 players that are good than a team with only two star players that are good. There's a reason why they are called a team, a star player shouldn't determine the effectiveness of a team they should be good with or without that player. This is the reason why I don't like a club with too many superstars, overtime they tend to mess up due to the fact that a lot of reliance would be on them, this is just my opinion on this.

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Quote from: Troytech on November 15, 2024, 01:29:23 PM

So true. Neymar is one prince who was not crowned in football. While growing up, he was always my idol. I learned how he plays, his skills, the brilliance and speed. I wanted to have that one chance to meet him in person. But I guess some dreams dont just come true. Anyway, he is playing for Al Hilal now to make good money, there is nothing in football that he ought to fight for anymore. While he tried doing that at a young age, Messi and Ronaldo were over the spotlight. However, deep down many acknowledge his talents. Just like you have said, it will be rare to see a player who still has the "joga bonito" in them. Anony Mateus tried, but still a lot missing from him.

But unfortunately Neymar lost his name, even he is not like some other stars and many have begun to forget his performance as Barcelona or PSG player and now Neymar is known as Al Hilal most expensive player who cannot work according to his price because of several injury problems that he always experiences.
I have not heard people say Neymar greatness with some previous team for long time and this is quite sad.

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Quote from: hyudien on November 10, 2024, 02:05:15 AM

maybe in the future there will be players like them again or even better than them, yes even though that is something that will be very difficult to happen.

I hope this comes true and things can be done this way. I'm sure that in the Near future there will be players who also make a difference. Of course, there is a real void. In fact, I haven't seen players with the characteristics of a Ronaldinho, I haven't seen a defender like Paolo Maldini Well , I have seen some players with a heart like Buffon, but it's hard to find them. Now, even in Brazil, there are almost no players of this style because training and children have focused too much on technology, on electronic devices. This has undoubtedly been a problem.

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Quote from: hyudien on November 10, 2024, 02:05:15 AM

Players will come and go, that is a very certain thing in football, including Ronaldo and Messi. They will really leave football as players, because their age is no longer friendly. There is no doubt that these two players are very important figures in football, especially in the last decade, their names are always in the top ranks of the best players in the world. But maybe now we think that it will be difficult to find players like them, but I also do not rule out that maybe in the future there will be players like them again or even better than them, yes even though that is something that will be very difficult to happen.

We had the same thinking for Maradona and other superstars of football and even we thought about what would happen if this superstar left the team or died. But nothing stopped all is going on the same and we have found a lot of superstars also when we lose our current superstar undoubtedly we will get more and more new superstars.

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