Topic: What's in the game, after all? - page 7. (Read 4813 times)

Well, I agree that these people may not think about it this way exactly

However, this is how it may play out in the end (pun intended as well). I mean people lose big time and that teaches them a lesson, the hard way, that is. So they end up "personally grown" in a sense (not all but many). A few years ago I lost like 1.5 BTC in one losing streak at PD, and I guess that taught me something. The point is, if we can use such an experience in other areas of our lives (transfer it), it may be worth the buck (lost) after all

that is quite a nice topic, one of the best I've seen on this part of the forum

I bet (pun intended) it's usually a combination of dopamine hits caused by small wins and excitement on the possibility of "easy money" that keeps people gambling.

of course there are deviations on this behavior but I don't see how people would approach gamble on a "personal growth" way.
more like a "test of luck" or "destiny's checking"

Well, I agree that these people may not think about it this way exactly

However, this is how it may play out in the end (pun intended as well). I mean people lose big time and that teaches them a lesson, the hard way, that is. So they end up "personally grown" in a sense (not all but many). A few years ago I lost like 1.5 BTC in one losing streak at PD, and I guess that taught me something. The point is, if we can use such an experience in other areas of our lives (transfer it), it may be worth the buck (lost) after all

These dudes just got lucky

And then were smart enough not to try their luck again. However, you could just as well stay away from gambling altogether after hitting a jackpot, right? But would that count as winning big all that time? Apparently not, but this is not what you meant to convey, or at least not how it got over to me. I understood it like they were extremely lucky and had been winning huge amounts all the time. But it was only a one-off event

thats what they says . being addicted cause by dopamine in the brain  .

small wins dont gives me dopamine but big wins yes . these days i dont feel like gambling when i only have a small money or a small coins on my account .

easy money yes , this what i think of everytime i step on the gambling platform but the hard truth is that the more i think for easy money the harder i can earn because i end up betting huge and loosing pretty quickly .

There are so many gamblers in this virtual world, there are so many addicted to this kind of game, and for me, the reasons of addiction in gambling are the ability of having an easy money, and also the fun that this game gives to them,

 but in fact, it is all not true because according to Timothy J. Legg a researcher, People who live with this kind of addiction may experience depression, migraine, distress, intestinal disorders, and other anxiety-related problems. As with other addictions, the consequences of gambling can lead to feelings of despair and helplessness, so meaning to say, aside from losing money in gambling, there is also harm in your psychological health. So you better stop gambling. The websites of the gambling game are the only one who wins this game.  

Definitely I would not have been into gambling, if I was not told about the possibility of winning big. After all frustration and humiliation, we do gamble only for the reason of wiping out all the problems with one big win, like winning a lambo in freebitco.in.

I believe when people are seeing how other people are making money from gambling (regardless of those are true or fake) , they just want to copy that. They keep on trying until achieving their dream target. This must be the reason why all casinos are very prompt about posting their results of all contests. They want to tempt at all possible ways.

Gambling will be same like watching a movie or hearing a song if money is not involved.

I think personal enjoyment is one feeling inside us that only we will know because other people will not know how that feeling and that feeling will be different between other people. I don't have any feeling in gambling except for enjoying the moment I played because I don't have motives for financial.

When I play dice games, I want to release my free time because I don't know what I want to do, so I decide to play the dice game, and when I remember what I should do, I will close the browser and do what I remember. Although that will be a short time for me to playing a dice game, I am okay with that because I don't search for making money.

what you are saying about working hard and not looking for shortcuts ,this is perseverance and dedicating mate and not luck at all

You have to control your luck, always. That is possible. Wanna know how? Work hard, stop trying to look for shortcuts.

But it isn't the same feeling of having a thrill and maybe feeling intense while you are in gambling. You should spend a buck of money while watching movie and eating popcorn

You have to control your luck, always. That is possible. Wanna know how? Work hard, stop trying to look for shortcuts

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Gambling will be same like watching a movie or hearing a song if money is not involved.

Probably better to assume that your gambling fund is lost already, If you don't want "your tension to get high".

I still don't think it's a good idea to enjoy taking risk with luck-based gambling. Those that are after the monetary rewards will likely stop once they notice their unprofitability after gambling for a long time,but the fun seeking gamblers could always rely on gambling once bored, unhappy, depressed etc. If the gambler's unhappiness becomes frequent, gambling will certainly be one of the things he/she rely  on to be happy

Yeah, I do remember that. But you were telling about winning only small amounts with that strategy, and that's why you suggested to bet with the smallest fraction of DOGE instead of BTC. One needs to have like 100 million BTC to employ that strategy successfully with it

Anyways, my point is that one shouldn't necessarily lose in the long run(even if we take your definition of "in the long run" here). If you are wise enough to know that big wins happen extremely rarely, you can cash out right after that happens, and then play with dust for 5 or 10 years afterwards, thus remaining in positive profit for a long time

And what is in these stats?

Are they playing dice with martingale? Then, "I told you so".

Otherwise, I can envisage only one way they can stay in profit after so many years of dicing. That is if they won jackpot and they continued to gamble for dust, or that they were gambling for dust first and then proceeded to win jackpot. You simply can't have it any other way

To summarize it in more abstract terms, they managed to make luck relevant in the time span of those several years. And then they were just lucky enough without even being extremely lucky to be in profit at this moment. Put differently, "in the long run" means long enough to make luck irrelevant while the house edge overwhelming

To be explicit and begin with, by gambling I mean playing only the games of chance (think dice here), i.e. games where your skill doesn't matter, where the outcome is determined by luck alone

As the debates and discussions here clearly show, there are two major camps in respect to the question why people are gambling. The first camp claim that people gamble because they are looking for ways to earn money (something like the notorious "get rich fast" scheme). The other camp say there are as well people who gamble just for the fun of it (to be clear, they don't deny the monetary incentives of some, or most, of the players). Let's call such an attitude personal enjoyment as that seems to be the established term (you're welcome to come up with a different name for it)

To reassert, I'm not discarding the possibility that quite a few people may be looking into gambling as a source of easy money (whether it actually is, or can be, is another question), or that it can in fact be their primary incentive. But this topic is not about such people. In this topic I want to dissect and analyze the other group of gamblers (and their motivations), the one that is actually playing for its own sake, for personal enjoyment and entertainment. And here's the question (a few questions) to muse over while taking a break from rolling the dice

What is exactly meant and understood by this "personal enjoyment" generic category? Is it one feeling, or are there many? What do people actually feel when gambling with motives other than purely financial? What do they get out of it? My take is that they are feeling in control of their fate, even if only for very brief moments. Simply put, that they are not losers, and luck is on their side, at least sometimes. Indeed, we all know that this feeling is fleeting and false overall, but it is so nice and pleasant that we are ready to pay for it, up to a point where we get addicted to it

So what's your take on this? What's in the game for those of us who are not looking for anything other than personal enjoyment and amusement? Be specific!

of course there are deviations on this behavior but I don't see how people would approach gamble on a "personal growth" way.
more like a "test of luck" or "destiny's checking"

thats what they says . being addicted cause by dopamine in the brain  .

small wins dont gives me dopamine but big wins yes . these days i dont feel like gambling when i only have a small money or a small coins on my account .

easy money yes , this what i think of everytime i step on the gambling platform but the hard truth is that the more i think for easy money the harder i can earn because i end up betting huge and loosing pretty quickly .

it's usually a combination of dopamine hits caused by small wins and excitement on the possibility of "easy money" that keeps people gambling.