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Quote from: zhekinsp on January 14, 2020, 04:39:56 PM

I feel excitement about the result of casino games is what that drives people into playing casino games again and again even if they know that game has no physical activity and it will end in seconds or fraction of it.

Absolutely correct, I could remember when I first started my gambling career. The reasons I was motivated was the big winnings on bitsler, thus makes me think its all possible to make good returns from doing gambling and so many times it does. Doing gambling was an opportunity for me to earn, until when my winnings went into the drains.

Sadly, false hope will never benefits us in the long run, it is a monster that has a mask of an angel, you think it will brings you fortune, but the reality is way too far from what you were expecting, that is why you face a disaster in the end, if you win big a couple of times, then it hit you back tripled times as big as your winnings in gambling, and that is the part where your money would be drained, just like what you have said, the next thing you know, your debt is killing you.

It is so ironic where the joy that you tend to feel at the start of your journey in gambling will turn to a chaos in your life lately.

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Quote from: STT on January 29, 2020, 06:42:19 PM

Modern games I can watch on Twitch and its almost like a movie, some literally are chained cut scenes so the two sectors have merged to some extent

It's a little bit off-topic here but let me add my opinion

I certainly understand what you refer to. More specifically, you refer to games which are linear, and you have to follow a preset scenario as events are unfolding in the game. But there are also other games like already mentioned Far Cry, with huge open worlds where you are not required to follow a prearranged train of events at predefined moments, and can explore the environment as you see funnier

I remember as in the first Far Cry you could escape the limits imposed on you by the game's script after some effort, and then wander around the whole location freely and even hit your enemies from above, where you were not supposed to be (well, at least it felt that way). Indeed, you would still have to die instantly if you actually reached and then tried to cross the boundaries of the game world, but within those boundaries you didn't have to follow the script

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So, believe it or not, I find gambling more entertaining than video games

I could understand that if you played every game there is and games have all become a bit random and distant. I feel modern gaming has lost its roots in the genuine gameplay required to really supply a hook or thread to the player program involvement.
Modern games I can watch on Twitch and its almost like a movie, some literally are chained cut scenes so the two sectors have merged to some extent. I no longer am the player just an observer to the game universe and yea I dont really like that. If a game lacks the knives edge between success and failure, is it real any more. I find this alot, modern pampering is not what we got on proper games years ago and then add in a possibility of latency introduced from distant internet based multiplayer and its all a bit foggy and turgid.

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Quote from: BitcoinTurk on January 29, 2020, 09:56:32 AM

my expectation is not to be rich, but to try my luck entirely.

sounds familliar eh ? i think i heard this phrase before where some users say that they gamble because they only want to test thier luck if they were lucky that time they play . this will give you an enjoyment and chills especially when you hit closer payouts that you ever wanted to hit but the good part is that you arent betting too much which is nice . but to me , i also rolls a few times a day on higher payouts but this is my plan already . i wanted to profit big so i keep on trying to do this

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Quote from: Ucy on January 29, 2020, 02:09:35 AM

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Quote from: Ucy on January 26, 2020, 11:50:19 AM

I guess people could play on those kinds of games where useful & unique items can be designed or won by players and sold to other players for money

Online games (like massively multiplayer online role-playing games) are exploiting this phenomenon to the hilt

Hopefully they create items that are really useful to players, so people don't get addicted to the wrong things.
Am particularly interested in farming or city construction kind of games. People could construct and sell materials to builders/farmers. The best practicable farms (practicable in real world) or most sustainable practicable cities win hugh sums. This is probably a safe & useful way to spend time/money on gambling

if this is what we want to have then we are not looking for Gambling site instead we are aiming for Online games in Apps,like what EOS platform offers and you can find some games like this that you can gain items and sell it to EOS .because gambling suppose to Gather our money and the House will always win,because if not then why they will continue the site right?

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People generally prefer to gamble for 2 main reasons. The first of these reasons is to make money and get rich shortly. Generally, I think that I am not mistaken if I interpret that everyone who gambles is addicted and loses all their money by gambling. There are even players who are beyond this and have a gambling debt. To talk about the other reason, I want to say that it is personal entertainment and spending time. These kinds of players usually play gambling only to spend their free time and have fun. In addition, while such players generally do not have financial difficulties, they only use surplus money when gambling. To comment on myself, I am someone who plays gambling for fun and I have never gambled to get rich. Of course, I occasionally play coupons or high prize games with surprising results, but in doing so, my expectation is not to be rich, but to try my luck entirely.

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Quote from: eli113 on January 29, 2020, 12:46:30 AM

i have many "normal?' hobbies but gambling is one of my favorites

however there are two distinct branches way too different from my POV , i will reply to OP twice :

1. Real life gambling
Meeting interesting people , even gambling maniacs are in a wicked way so interesting to watch , better than Netflix !
Making lowest bets possible is my way , i buy satisfaction winning against variance beast , and bragging a bit around !
I am always too relaxed as a person , i love to listen to my heart beat , proof i am alive kind of

So gambling for you is more about socializing, bonding and connecting with people, right

In other words, it is just a way of doing these things. But could you get there doing something else, or, more generally speaking, could we get whatever we get out of gambling via other routes? I mean emotionally, purely financial incentives aside. But even with money, there are different ways to earn dough, while gambling is definitely not the best way of making a living (unless you are a casino owner yourself)

The point is, after we have explored the questions raised in the OP and found plausible answers to them (like gambling being a sort of roller coaster when we need it), we could go further and start looking for alternatives to it which would give us essentially the same emotional boost but without its side effects like losing money and having to deal with withdrawal (if you are a gambling addict)

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Quote from: deisik on January 24, 2020, 08:36:58 AM

Quote from: Ucy on January 26, 2020, 11:50:19 AM

I guess people could play on those kinds of games where useful & unique items can be designed or won by players and sold to other players for money

Online games (like massively multiplayer online role-playing games) are exploiting this phenomenon to the hilt

Hopefully they create items that are really useful to players, so people don't get addicted to the wrong things.
Am particularly interested in farming or city construction kind of games. People could construct and sell materials to builders/farmers. The best practicable farms (practicable in real world) or most sustainable practicable cities win hugh sums. This is probably a safe & useful way to spend time/money on gambling

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Quote from: zhekinsp on January 14, 2020, 04:39:56 PM

I feel excitement about the result of casino games is what that drives people into playing casino games again and again even if they know that game has no physical activity and it will end in seconds or fraction of it.

Absolutely correct, I could remember when I first started my gambling career. The reasons I was motivated was the big winnings on bitsler, thus makes me think its all possible to make good returns from doing gambling and so many times it does. Doing gambling was an opportunity for me to earn, until when my winnings went into the drains.

Actually, there are many things inside the game: the fun, the love of money, win bact to back Cheesy

, among all; the opportunities that exist. Many a times this kept me wondering if anyone could see this. These factors inside the game also be the reasons for addiction of many gullible gamblers around the industries.

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Quote from: deisik on January 10, 2020, 04:16:41 PM

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So what's your take on this? What's in the game for those of us who are not looking for anything other than personal enjoyment and amusement? Be specific!

if i got OP right , i can talk just for myself so i admit at first : contrary to my standard practice i read not other replies here at all

i have many "normal?' hobbies but gambling is one of my favorites

however there are two distinct branches way too different from my POV , i will reply to OP twice :


1. Real life gambling
   Meeting interesting people , even gambling maniacs are in a wicked way so interesting to watch , better than Netflix !
   Making lowest bets possible is my way , i buy satisfaction winning against variance beast , and bragging a bit around !
   I am always too relaxed as a person , i love to listen to my heart beat , proof i am alive kind of

2. Online gambling
   Chat is sub-optimal way to interact with other humans or bots? but still is fun activity for me
   My hyper active mind can run freely creating useless patterns and making nonsense conclusions
   it is however a mind training opportunity , after few decades i feel better and with less fallacies

I kept it short since i sensed you got my 2 satoshi

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Quote from: Oceat on January 28, 2020, 12:29:55 PM

Quote from: Savemore on January 25, 2020, 01:20:41 AM

In reality, there is no satisfaction in gambling. For those who seek satisfaction, I'm sorry to say but the word satisfaction is not existing. When we win through gambling, our desires will increase and even if we lose also, we have still desires to regain the losses. Most of us are seeking enjoyment but profit is also matter, there are many psychological factors that we should be aware when we are doing gambling.

I don't think you ever tried to play gambling while staking something that you own through hard work. The satisfaction that you feel when gambling while staking your hard earned money is different of what you have been talking, unless of course, if you have a problem of specifying what is satisfaction then that's a different story

Honestly, I don't think satisfaction is the correct term for it

Satisfaction is typically what you feel after you get done with a piece of hard work, and with a good result at that. You may feel tired, in fact, you will feel tired, and it is a kind of tired that is very rewarding. Simply put, you feel satisfied with the results, sort of happy (or content if happy ain't your thing)

In gambling, however, it is more about adrenaline rush and dopamine hit (I admit I certainly like this turn of phrase). Given this, I don't really think the ensuing emotions can be called satisfaction even when you win (let alone when you lose). You are just too worked up and agitated, while satisfaction means calmness and tranquility

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Quote from: Savemore on January 25, 2020, 01:20:41 AM

In reality, there is no satisfaction in gambling. For those who seek satisfaction, I'm sorry to say but the word satisfaction is not existing. When we win through gambling, our desires will increase and even if we lose also, we have still desires to regain the losses. Most of us are seeking enjoyment but profit is also matter, there are many psychological factors that we should be aware when we are doing gambling.

I don't think you ever tried to play gambling while staking something that you own through hard work. The satisfaction that you feel when gambling while staking your hard earned money is different of what you have been talking, unless of course, if you have a problem of specifying what is satisfaction then that's a different story.

Those psychological factors that you are talking about of having an enjoyment is slowly being developed when playing in gambling. And there's a lot of ways to find enjoyment and pleasure not just in gambling because it is developing already when you are growing as a kid.

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Quote from: deisik on January 26, 2020, 08:40:58 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on January 26, 2020, 05:52:11 AM

So, believe it or not, I find gambling more entertaining than video games

Wholeheartedly support this attitude

In the past I could play video games days on end (more specifically, first-person shooters). I hardly ever slept and ate, so it could be rightfully said that I was a gaming addict of sorts. Then one day I realized how I had been hurting my health and my life in general. I just lost interest soon thereafter

Today, when I try to play a shooter, even a classic which I consider one of the best ever (like both Half-Lives, both Bloods, first Far Cry, etc), I got bored within minutes. On the other hand, I don't feel bored at gambling at all (though I consciously control my playing habits), and I can explain exactly why so. It's because my money is at stake there

I'm on the same page, though these are my reasons. I also played video games, even mobile games, yes it is addicting at first but things change when I get the whole game's idea, that is when I got bored. I always think what would I get in these video games, just merely passing my time and a little bit of excitement in the first try, compare to gambling, which you could also do the same however your money is at stake (so better watch out), entertainment and the possibility of earning by winning are the reasons why it is more fun to do than video games, in my opinion.

To make this story short, it is about literally just for fun vs. fun with chances of winning

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Quote from: huige007 on January 26, 2020, 09:29:30 AM

You are right. People have two reasons for gambling. First of all, money is the basic aim for those gamblers who are actually into it for bringing income. Others do it just for fun. But fun is a factor that could only be considered if a person is not having trouble in terms of funds. But let’s suppose you are running smooth in terms of economy even then it is possible that you get addicted to it.

It is not a game at all, sometimes the reason why we are into gambling its because we are testing our fortune or if we are lucky enough to win the game, different people has a different mindset toward the things like this gambling, we need to take note of it, so for me, it is a game that test my mind, on how do I do next when things goes wrong when my strategy aren't good enough in the match so it the reason for me.`

Yeah right it's not all game gambling also use a smart way if you gamble you be smart and use your strategy right. But in gambling need also a luck if the strategy is good but no luck you can never win but once the two in you. You can win big amount and use the smart way once you win stop gamble and do go back again in other day.

When we test our luck, it will never work because we don't know when the luck will come to us. But when we are playing gambling because of having fun, sometimes we will be lucky, and we can win the games. Sometimes we don't need to use any strategy because we don't chase anything except to have fun, and that can give us a chance to win because the luck comes to us. So when you want to have fun in gambling, you should not think about when your luck will come because we will never know.

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Quote from: Lecam on January 27, 2020, 06:13:46 AM

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Quote from: huige007 on January 26, 2020, 09:29:30 AM

You are right. People have two reasons for gambling. First of all, money is the basic aim for those gamblers who are actually into it for bringing income. Others do it just for fun. But fun is a factor that could only be considered if a person is not having trouble in terms of funds. But let’s suppose you are running smooth in terms of economy even then it is possible that you get addicted to it.

It is not a game at all, sometimes the reason why we are into gambling its because we are testing our fortune or if we are lucky enough to win the game, different people has a different mindset toward the things like this gambling, we need to take note of it, so for me, it is a game that test my mind, on how do I do next when things goes wrong when my strategy aren't good enough in the match so it the reason for me.`

Yeah right it's not all game gambling also use a smart way if you gamble you be smart and use your strategy right. But in gambling need also a luck if the strategy is good but no luck you can never win but once the two in you. You can win big amount and use the smart way once you win stop gamble and do go back again in other day.

Yeah, gambling is a mixture of luck and strategy so for making a profit from gambling we will have to do both plays with care and also make wise strategists. In gambling people from different places use to come and invest their money to play well. In gambling, you will think positively about games we like then put all your effort to win after that you may leave all on your luck.

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Quote from: Lecam on January 27, 2020, 06:13:46 AM

Quote from: Mumbeeptind1963 on January 26, 2020, 10:34:04 AM

Quote from: huige007 on January 26, 2020, 09:29:30 AM

You are right. People have two reasons for gambling. First of all, money is the basic aim for those gamblers who are actually into it for bringing income. Others do it just for fun. But fun is a factor that could only be considered if a person is not having trouble in terms of funds. But let’s suppose you are running smooth in terms of economy even then it is possible that you get addicted to it.

It is not a game at all, sometimes the reason why we are into gambling its because we are testing our fortune or if we are lucky enough to win the game, different people has a different mindset toward the things like this gambling, we need to take note of it, so for me, it is a game that test my mind, on how do I do next when things goes wrong when my strategy aren't good enough in the match so it the reason for me.`

Yeah right it's not all game gambling also use a smart way if you gamble you be smart and use your strategy right. But in gambling need also a luck if the strategy is good but no luck you can never win but once the two in you. You can win big amount and use the smart way once you win stop gamble and do go back again in other day.

When there is lack alone matter no people will come to gambling field. I will surely se strategy will play half of the site in every investment whether it is casino or sports betting.
Very few investors are looks only on leg based games I believe those people might be so lazy and greedy without the efforts.

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Quote from: Mumbeeptind1963 on January 26, 2020, 10:34:04 AM

Quote from: huige007 on January 26, 2020, 09:29:30 AM

You are right. People have two reasons for gambling. First of all, money is the basic aim for those gamblers who are actually into it for bringing income. Others do it just for fun. But fun is a factor that could only be considered if a person is not having trouble in terms of funds. But let’s suppose you are running smooth in terms of economy even then it is possible that you get addicted to it.

It is not a game at all, sometimes the reason why we are into gambling its because we are testing our fortune or if we are lucky enough to win the game, different people has a different mindset toward the things like this gambling, we need to take note of it, so for me, it is a game that test my mind, on how do I do next when things goes wrong when my strategy aren't good enough in the match so it the reason for me.`

Yeah right it's not all game gambling also use a smart way if you gamble you be smart and use your strategy right. But in gambling need also a luck if the strategy is good but no luck you can never win but once the two in you. You can win big amount and use the smart way once you win stop gamble and do go back again in other day.

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Quote from: iamsheikhadil on January 26, 2020, 11:43:34 AM

I can be very confident to say that only 10% of gamblers gamble for reasons other than monetary as most priority. I have been in such situations in past where I played for just enjoyment. To be honest, it's really really really boring when tje gambling is done for not profits but entertainment, because Netflix or YouTube is a better entertainment than seeing a pointer move at dice constantly on repeated interval of time. It gets boring.... I think it's like an escape from reality or to just waste or cut time.

Basically it is 0 percent, excluded those that usually plays or gamble for beta testing of a site or gambling platform. Most of the people is playing because there is hope in every bets, there are those who plays because their minds have been affected in the first place, I can call them addicted to playing not just for money but they find it a lifestyle already. But after all, it still falls to the desire of gaining profits.

If they used to have that as lifestyle, certainly they've been a huge potential to become addicted in the first place. Too much emotions tend to draw these people much more aggressive to play and seek for luck on gambling, that's why they are more bound to prioritize gambling instead of doing other important things. The game after all this, nobody becomes a winner but rather a hard time loser.

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Quote from: iamsheikhadil on January 26, 2020, 11:43:34 AM

I can be very confident to say that only 10% of gamblers gamble for reasons other than monetary as most priority. I have been in such situations in past where I played for just enjoyment. To be honest, it's really really really boring when tje gambling is done for not profits but entertainment, because Netflix or YouTube is a better entertainment than seeing a pointer move at dice constantly on repeated interval of time. It gets boring.... I think it's like an escape from reality or to just waste or cut time.

Basically it is 0 percent, excluded those that usually plays or gamble for beta testing of a site or gambling platform. Most of the people is playing because there is hope in every bets, there are those who plays because their minds have been affected in the first place, I can call them addicted to playing not just for money but they find it a lifestyle already. But after all, it still falls to the desire of gaining profits.

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Quote from: Ucy on January 26, 2020, 11:50:19 AM

Quote from: deisik on January 24, 2020, 08:36:58 AM

On the other hand, playing single-player video games or such modes of these games is like rolling dice without risking anything and with no chance to win something actually valuable to you (read, you will quickly lose interest)

Interesting.
So what you're basically saying is that putting something valuable at stake makes a game less boring?

That's how things turn out to be

If something valuable is at stake, I mean valuable to you personally (think marginal utility here), you won't and technically can't even be bored because it follows straight from the very definition of boredom, as well as the opposite of it. You only feel bored with things which are utterly uninteresting to you. And it works in reverse quite well too, so you can't feel depressed, tired, or hacked off with things which are of great interest to you (think love here)

Quote from: Ucy on January 26, 2020, 11:50:19 AM

I guess people could play on those kinds of games where useful & unique items can be designed or won by players and sold to other players for money

Online games (like massively multiplayer online role-playing games) are exploiting this phenomenon to the hilt

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