Topic: What's more important to judge whether or not I should be trusted? - page 2. (Read 2220 times)

Statements like this don't support your case that your judgement should be relied upon by others.

You received the BTC. Where is the risk?

So I take it as a "yes" then. You would falsely claim a hack/unauthorized access to reverse a F&F transaction.

Why so defensive? I'm just pointing out a coincidence, i.e. that the first person you left feedback to is also an account seller.

No. My feedback is factually correct: You abused your ability to leave trust ratings. You tried to blackmail/coerce (whichever word is more suited; some people like arguing semantics) me with direct consequences when I didn't give in to the demand. Leaving retaliatory ratings because of false, subjective opinions is also a no-go.

Which is an objective lie, as it isn't mathematically possible[1].

No need; your behavior has turned criminal (slander, coercion, you pick it). I ain't no QS, thus I am not going to threaten you with a lawsuit nor am I going receive funds from TF for it.

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[1] What would you know about mathematics, especially cryptography anyways.
[2] Suck up to a person or two, position an alt or three, do a deal or two for a trivial amount and you're almost there. Response to the wrong quote, still true though.

If I sent F&F first there is still risk in the transaction!
Since I need to claim unauthorized access in order to charge back if scammed and that easily results in account suspension if found out to be a lie.

Read first, be rude later.

You received BTC. You sent PayPal. What are you going to charge back?

Are you saying that you would falsely claim that your PayPal account was hacked in order to reverse the transaction?

Aren't we all glad that OgNasty dredged the swamp to find this particular creature  

You've found out about the 1st feedback I ever left!
It was yesterday? Nah, it was in 2014 when I was a Jr.Member!
It's not like I became DT today, so I had a chance to revise my Jr.Member feedbacks
I knew I was a DT for how long now? 10 minutes?
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Ahh, yes.
A regular member blackmailes 2 DTs with untrusted feedback.
It is 'trust' and I found your feedback to be unjust and UNTRUE.

You have claimed I am not to be trusted, I found this to be COMPLETELY UNTRUE and therefore, I have left feedback on your account.
You have not only abused the trust system but also mismanaged 3000 BTC.

On yours, Lauda, I will never remove.

If it is an F&F transaction, there's still risk since in order to charge it back I'd need to claim my PayPal account was hacked, or there was an unauthorized access which if found to be false, could result in my account being limited.

I will revise all my feedback later today or tommorow, since as I said, I just found out about being DT.

The second you left an unjust negative rating after we did not accept your demand it turned into blackmail. Just because you wrapped it nicely into a sob-story doesn't mean that it actually wasn't. Actually, it makes it worse since it's deceptive. But what do I know.





The second one just happens to be a 3-post newbie, who also just happens to be an account seller. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

What are you on about?


There was zero risk for you. The person who received your (now green by default) trust rating did not need to be trusted by you in that transaction. You're the one sending PayPal. The other person takes the risk and may decide to leave a positive rating for you.


Yes, a neutral. A post-it note on your account so that I would know who you are next time I meet you. Doesn't affect you in any way but if you want a reference - this thread.

Stop multiposting and clean yourself up.

Oh the irony.

I believe 'should not be trusted' for a person who has handled a million $ worth of assets without a single complaint about his services is an abuse of the trust system.

But since The Pharmacist hasn't been as rude and crazy as Lauda and has acknowleged his mistake, I have removed my feedback from his profile.

Also

PayPal is a reversible payment processor and such a trade includes risk of being scammed.
That's what the Trust system is FOR!
Not for opinions etc.

The "Not an asshole" tag was left before I realized I became a DT (I found out with my first post today)
It will be removed now.

Your new rating for TP is almost as shit as the old one:


You should also prune your other ratings that have no references and/or were posted for ridiculous reasons, particularly positive ones for trades that had no risk on your part, e.g. "Sent me X BTC, I sent him Y PP" - your counterparty doesn't deserve green trust for that. If you do that again it will be equivalent to trust sale now that you're in DT.

I have sent you 3 PMs.

1.http://prntscr.com/laujf6

Someone who speaks Croatian should say if there's any blackmail in it.

This is the simmilar english equivalent I've sent to The Pharmacist. Judge yourself is there's blackmail in it.

http://prntscr.com/laukmw

2.http://prntscr.com/laul0v
3.http://prntscr.com/laulcc

Translates to "You don't speak Croatian?" since he responded to my PM on english, although he spoke Croatian a year back.

I can stream my outbox if someone is willing to watch it in order to confirm this to be legitimate.



The account didn't have a staked address when I got it as collateral, I staked one a year back or so when it was in my ownership.

@The Pharmacist

If I was a DT when I left it, I wouldn't have left it at all.
I appreciate you came through and removed yours.

I had PMed you last week and you have blocked me.

Anyway, I would not PM you if I didn't face this statement. I never engaged in such activities after the red tag. Believe me or not. It's up to you. You said that having positive trust is an extra benefits for removing the tag. That's it.

It's true that you gave me red tag after 5 months of my joining here. But I was not concerned that anyone can get negative trust for buying/selling accounts.

By the way, I apologize that I have posted it here.

Thank you.

The only time I'll remove feedback I left for account sellers/buyers is after a significant amount of time has passed and the member has done something (usually gained trust feedbacks with valid references) that proves they're trustworthy.

In your case, you claim you were new but 6 months after registering on bitcointalk you were trying to buy accounts at a time when members were consistently being tagged for such--and you should have known better.  You haven't done anything in the 5 months since I left my feedback on you that would convince me to remove it.

This isn't the thread to appeal negs I've left, by the way.  PM me if you've met the above criteria.

The Pharmacist has removed the negative trust from iluvbitcoins. I appreciate that The Pharmacist has realized. But, why am I still neg tagged for the same accusation?
I was quite new in bitcointalk back in the day. I was not too much active then. I didn't know that for attempting to buy an account, I could get a red tagged. I really had no concerned about that because I knew that buying/selling accounts are allowed.
I had created a thread when I saw the neg tagged in my profile. Then Lauda had also tagged. Anyway, some days ago, when I saw Lauda was not in DT anymore, and somewhere I read that The Pharmacist had removed someone else neg tagged, I wrote him requesting to remove my neg tag. While he said I had not done anything trustworthy after the tag.
I just want to know, had I done anything which is not trustworthy before and after the neg tag? I request to reconsider my neg tag because I am not a scammer.
Thank you.

Apologize, I have open this case about The Pharmacist tag. I really didn't open this case for more argument. My intention was for stop the argument. I really don't like to see red caution on DT profile, especially if there is like The Pharmacist who have spend lots of time to prevent corruption. I have not found the point how he abuse trust system. No, I am not defending TP, also few point I am not agree with him. But I an also not fan of account seller. On the other hand iluvbitcoins also have not broke forum rules or he didn't attempt to scam. Even I don't know much about him but most likely he is a trusted person according to others DT feedback.

Regarding account sale, main problem is forum rules. Question is, if account sales allowed by forum then why need to tag? Is it really necessary? I have a simple answer although everyone will not agree with it. Answer is, most of account seller are scammer, they really don't have account for sale. Mostly they scam greedy peoples who is encourage to buy account. So its really need to tag them for warn buyers. Especially newbie account seller.

However noticed The Pharmacist have removed his feedback during writing time. So I think problem is almost solved. The Pharmacist did right thing I think by tag and by remove. I believe iluvbitcoins has learned from tag and he should also removed his feedback.

Why I agree both of TP decision? Because his tag will help iluvbitcoins to avoid this kind of actions. And there is multiple reason that I believe pharmacist should remove tag,
iluvbitcoins trusted by more than 7 DT and he win by voting on this thread. Most of people think iluvbitcoins still enough trusted. Add on DT2 network means more trusted. So considering all this issue TP took this decision. However I will not call him selfish. 

Lol, this has nothing to do your DT status. I still respect you for the work you have done with SMAS and for the forum.


Okay...

Are you intentionally lying or just playing this one? You've clearly read nothing or are delusional if you believe this is a "perfect example" of an error in judgement. Funny how your responses shift depending on my DT status. My opinions are consistent with our without DT, unlike you hypocrite.  

Whining again mr. Scammer?

You've got plenty of account-sale related revoking to do in that case, if you want to remain consistent.

KARMA is a bitch! You can't even prove that my account is connected to all "crypto" name in this forum. You are also stupid that you think all crypto name is the same person. You are in a Crypto world you idiot, and you expect that it should have no "crypto" in a user name?