Topic: What's more important to judge whether or not I should be trusted? - page 4. (Read 2178 times)

Correct, or more specifically, OPs trust ratings are automatically included in trust rating calculations to those that have OgNasty in their trust list.

You're delusional; there's no hypocrisy. This case is clear, the mind is guilty.

Quite off-topic
OgNasty added OP on his/her trust list. As a result, OP was automatically trusted by the people who had added OgNasty on their trust list. Am I correct?
 I'm just little curious about the trust system.

I think now I got how trust system works. Thank you.

Do you have no self awareness? Or do you just not care about your transparent hypocrisy?

OP attempted to blackmail us into removing their ratings. We got tagged for not giving in. Any attempts at making their ratings appear under a real pretense is therefore void (actually makes them a even less trustworthy).

OP was only recently added to DT.

Just now noticed The Pharmacist tagged by OP iluvbitcoins as well he/she is also in DT list. Personally I don't think this is enough reason to tag. There is no reference to identify why he got tag. Is this counter tag ? We know the previous history about account sales of iluvbitcoins which is discouraged by forum. We know this is allowed, but it's discourage by forum and reputed member's. I believe none reputed member's don't like account trade. Although all DT member's are not tagging account sellers but I believe they don't like any kind account sale or trade.

I am little bit surprised that how a DT member could involved with account sale ? As you title what is important to consider trusted. The Pharmacist didn't mention scammer on his feedback. He left feedback like all others same. There is reference why OP got tagged. I don't know too much about OP since I am newbie, most likely he is trusted person but is it fair a trusted person will involved with account trade ? I don't think so. Personally I don't like account tread since I have realized how hard to build an account.

I believe OP should reconsider about tag of The Pharmacist, it's not looking good a DT tagged without reference. Although I am not agree with him sometimes but he is doing good job to keep clean this forum. And I believe he will continue his work.

Apologise for broken English.


That's why tag are reflecting, OP left feedback exactly a month ago. I believe OP will reconsider about that matter.

Are you talking about the NVO escrow scenario?

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What do you have to tell about sorting out your case with The Pharmacist?

If you want to get your trust score back, contact the DT1 members who added Lauda and The Pharmacist, or convince Lauda and TP to remove their negative rating.

I've only started being an asshole after I found out Lauda scammed his escrowers out of 3000 BCH and is lecturing me for trying to sell one account (I know my word that I wanted to sell it to a legit person means nothing, but still comparing a consensual transaction with a 3000 BCH scam..)


Touche.
Although, I guarantee you I am not engaged in unethical behaviour.
I had one account because the person used it as collateral and never paid me back.
If there were an agreement between me and The Pharmacist, I could provide links to replies and screenshots of PMs, blockchain transaction etc. which would confirm this to be true, and the described in the thread would match.
However, although Lauda wouldn't want to remove his feedback if I asked for an agreement, I wouldn't remove mine even if he wanted to remove his.
I can't condone that even though my feedback means nothing, he scammed for 3000 BCH.
There are some morals.


Dunno, once upon a time I wanted to buy an account for my girlfriend.
This one I gave to good friends to use before trying to sell it, they made genuinely good posts.
They were using it for 2 years or so, but recently it's just sitting idle, so I had a dumb idea to sell it..
Although sig.campaigns are a bit spammy, they do get new people involved.

Saying that you will only sell an account to a member without any red trust is meaningless. There are so many alts here, that a scammer is bound to have a few without red tags.

I can't think of a reason for anyone other than a bounty spammer or a scammer to buy an account anyway.

While you could have handled this situation in a much better manner, which you didn't, a red tag wasn't initially really required,for your case. The person who controls Avirunes account had bought it and made his name, point being not all account buyers are trying to game the system or whatever, but since you tried to sell an account to a random person, its hard to conclude if you really wanted to sell it to a non "red-tagged member". Bitcointalk community works in a odd manner, just like everything else. While the tag doesn't make you a scammer, it doesn't make you look like a trust worthy person either. A new person would obviously judge you for the red tags you received, and not for the green tags.

All I can suggest you to do is, instead of being an utter asshole, try sorting it out with Lauda and The Pharmacist privately.

Gee its almost like the polls on BTCT are completely and utterly useless at actually determining anything as anyone could accuse you of having 9 alts, you have at least 2 accounts we know of that could have voted yes...

Wow, 3 votes against in like 10 minutes.
Seems like Lauda used some multies 

How is it the same logic?
The logic was DT abuse.
Both threads have a red tag from DT members.


Well, he could already do it with his own account.
If he would decide to scam, I would be able to neg the account that bought it too.

Ok, account, not accounts. You wouldn't sell account to random newbie or user with red tag. Let's say that you you would sell it to user with neutral trust. But how you can be sure that he wont missue that account? There was many cases when green trusted people with solid reputation or Donators turned into scammers.

Ok cool if you say so, but you said I was insulting and continued it in this thread...


Wait are you talking about joe or you, because there's no point discussing anything further with joe.  In terms of you all I did was use your own logic to present a different opinion, if that's your definition of emotion, cool.


Ok, I don't see it, does that work for you?


Thanks, I don't have anything against you either, we had a successful non escrow transaction a few months back.  I would conduct another transaction again without hesitation.  That doesn't change the fact I think your wrong and joe is a retard.

Again thanks for the advice on changing my approach but to be honest I'm Ok with calling a person unable to identify a circle from a picture a retard.  No need to be nice to them as it just encourages them and then they think the are special and beat science.

I think its worth noting I don't think joe should be banned or silenced, I just think hes mentally fucking retarded and really it shouldn't be a surprise a person might not find him trustworthy...

There isn't a red tag on your name anymore.

Reading through the meta forum, I have noticed how some high ranked members become strict on negatively tagging members even when the member has every proof of the situations.

Maybe you should just try to ignore all these fuse. As you have stated, "whether a red tag or not, you can still be trusted " red tags doesn't stop me from trusting people if I find reasons to trust the person.

You have been in the forum way too long and understandshort the rules, I know you are hurting being ignored by those who tagged you negatively but I can see the good in you and some other high ranked member. So keep it up that's all I can say to you.

*an account
not accounts

It is clearly stated I would not sell to people with a red tag, and I ended up locking the thread because only newbies were contacting me!
I would not have given it to someone who would of missused it!


You haven't but your way of replying is sort of mock-yell which resembles children arguing.
Only using emotions instead of actually discussing something.
Just look at your posts and tell me you don't see it..
Don't think I have something against you personally, I just think you should change the way you approach discussion.

First off I did not insult you so I am not continuing any such thing in this thread. I insulted joe calling him a retard because he is.  Even a kindergarten student can look at a picture and identify a round object.

I am very capable of having a civilized discussion, generally though when a person is not smart enough to identify a round object from a picture it is impossible for them to have a rational discussion and so all political correctness for me goes out the window.

Not everyone deserves to be treated with respect point blank, when you simply refuse to accept basic facts because of self incredulity I am going to call you a retard. sue me, red tag me, ban me I don't give a fuck tbh.

I appreciate the advice to ignore your posts but I will keep responding as I like!  BTW you are also quite free to ignore my uncivilized posts as well.

OP,  you've been long enough here to know that account sales aren't tolerated by DT members. No matter you're newbie or legendary member. It's not worth to risk your reputation while trying to sell accounts.
Maybe you still can be considered as as trusted lender or escrow agent, but I think that negative trust rating that you got is fair. Usually people buying accounts with bad intentions - they want to scam someone, abuse bounties and etc. And by selling account you're just helping to these abusers.
I don't know, maybe trust system is missued sometimes, but it's not your case. People offen complaining that trust system is unfair, but they can't offer better alternatives to current system.
P.S. I think this topic belongs to reputation board.