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Quote from: Smartprofit on June 14, 2021, 10:59:38 AM

I am very happy for the people who managed to win the jackpot by gambling. Once my girlfriend won a 4k TV. I am very happy for her

I am part of those people that criticize gambling because it's never my thing, I have always find myself regretting after placing wrong bets, to me hearing that someone wins large amount of money seems like an delusional stories and myths, I lost big accumulated sum of money during the time of my gambling career, I discovered Immediately that it wasn't my thing so I have to fucking quit.

Quote from: Smartprofit on June 14, 2021, 10:59:38 AM

This is the difference between gambling and investing in stocks. Due to inflation, the average price of shares in the stock market is constantly growing.

I didn't understand why op make this statement, saying losers in gambling are liable to loss in stock market, this statement is not ethical I doubt him for saying that, stock and gambling is quitely a different thing.

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Quote from: slaman29 on June 14, 2021, 09:02:23 AM

I have to say even 13% gamblers winning daily is a far-fetched number for anyone to believe in, I win some days and lose most days, so how can anyone consistently win? Even the house does not always lose, and can lose much more than win in a normal occasion unless you allow time to play out over the years.

Just face the facts. You lose eventually in gambling. The point is to have fun. Finito.

It will be interesting to see where that number came up however as long as those were not the same people every day then it could match the results we see, some people will have some positive sessions despite the house edge but we know that over the long term it is impossible to win except for an incredibly and exceptional small number of gamblers, so the rest of us need to accept the truth and gamble just for fun, and if we cannot do that then to stop gambling is the only choice.

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I am very happy for the people who managed to win the jackpot by gambling. Once my girlfriend won a 4k TV. I am very happy for her!

However, it should be noted that the probability of losing in a gambling game is greater than the probability of winning. Gambling is a zero-sum game.

This is the difference between gambling and investing in stocks. Due to inflation, the average price of shares in the stock market is constantly growing.

Therefore, advertising of gambling is prohibited in many countries.

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Quote from: qwertyup23 on June 13, 2021, 06:00:02 PM

Quote from: Hydrogen on May 17, 2021, 06:19:46 PM

Everywhere I look, all I see are negative comments made about money lost gambling. Mental illness associated with gambling and anything that can illustrate gambling in a negative light.

As someone who considers themselves to be a profitable gambler. The trend of covering only the negative side of the industry puzzles me.

Why is there never mention of the winners.

You know why? Because, only 13-15% of the gamblers win on a daily basis as compared to the remaining 85% lose often.

Gambling, just like any addiction, is associated with countless of risks especially if one lacks the necessary discipline to prevent them from going down that rabbit hole. The negative effects of gambling has caused a disruption in the society where people try to discuss the problems as much as possible to prevent other people from going down this hill.

That is the reason on why most people talk about the negative effects of gambling due to the number of people who experience loss.

Let me add this as well.

Gambling positive effects are much lesser compare to its negative effects to people, that's why we can't really blame them to expose the reality about gambling, because that's what is really is. Obviously, if you see people talking about it like they hate it for death, that'll only means they experienced bad things about it and vice versa.

And the government and other concern citizens being aware about this launched different programs to help people know what they are after in gambling so that they are not going to be surprise or shock anymore when they experience worst things in gambling.

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Quote from: qwertyup23 on June 13, 2021, 06:00:02 PM

You know why? Because, only 13-15% of the gamblers win on a daily basis as compared to the remaining 85% lose often.

Thats true, many people are losing their money compared to gamblers who are winning each day. Thats why there are anti gambling campaign to show the negative sides of engaging yourself in gambling and to prevent ourselves to lose our money.

Just like other addiction's warning it has a bad effect especially if you have no control. But its fine to gamble as long as you can set limit and have discipline, but the problem is most gamblers are lacking of this mindset. Though there are few gamblers who succeed in gambling as their profession, but still, not everyone can do it.

I have to say even 13% gamblers winning daily is a far-fetched number for anyone to believe in, I win some days and lose most days, so how can anyone consistently win? Even the house does not always lose, and can lose much more than win in a normal occasion unless you allow time to play out over the years.

Just face the facts. You lose eventually in gambling. The point is to have fun. Finito.

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Quote from: qwertyup23 on June 13, 2021, 06:00:02 PM

You know why? Because, only 13-15% of the gamblers win on a daily basis as compared to the remaining 85% lose often.

Thats true, many people are losing their money compared to gamblers who are winning each day. Thats why there are anti gambling campaign to show the negative sides of engaging yourself in gambling and to prevent ourselves to lose our money.

Just like other addiction's warning it has a bad effect especially if you have no control. But its fine to gamble as long as you can set limit and have discipline, but the problem is most gamblers are lacking of this mindset. Though there are few gamblers who succeed in gambling as their profession, but still, not everyone can do it.

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Quote from: Hydrogen on May 17, 2021, 06:19:46 PM

Everywhere I look, all I see are negative comments made about money lost gambling. Mental illness associated with gambling and anything that can illustrate gambling in a negative light.

As someone who considers themselves to be a profitable gambler. The trend of covering only the negative side of the industry puzzles me.

Why is there never mention of the winners.

You know why? Because, only 13-15% of the gamblers win on a daily basis as compared to the remaining 85% lose often.

Gambling, just like any addiction, is associated with countless of risks especially if one lacks the necessary discipline to prevent them from going down that rabbit hole. The negative effects of gambling has caused a disruption in the society where people try to discuss the problems as much as possible to prevent other people from going down this hill.

That is the reason on why most people talk about the negative effects of gambling due to the number of people who experience loss.

The negative effect from gambling will be bigger than the positive, so the anti-gambling campaign is everywhere, especially when gambling is allowed in that country. That can warn people how dangerous gambling, especially if they can not control themselves.

But it is not easy to stop people from playing gambling, especially if gambling is already rooted in society. It needs support from the government, all elements in society, and all people who always tell addicted people to reduce their time in playing gambling. People need to help the addicted people in gambling to solve their addiction.

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Quote from: Hydrogen on May 17, 2021, 06:19:46 PM

Everywhere I look, all I see are negative comments made about money lost gambling. Mental illness associated with gambling and anything that can illustrate gambling in a negative light.

As someone who considers themselves to be a profitable gambler. The trend of covering only the negative side of the industry puzzles me.

Why is there never mention of the winners.

You know why? Because, only 13-15% of the gamblers win on a daily basis as compared to the remaining 85% lose often.

Gambling, just like any addiction, is associated with countless of risks especially if one lacks the necessary discipline to prevent them from going down that rabbit hole. The negative effects of gambling has caused a disruption in the society where people try to discuss the problems as much as possible to prevent other people from going down this hill.

That is the reason on why most people talk about the negative effects of gambling due to the number of people who experience loss.

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Quote from: Hydrogen on May 17, 2021, 06:19:46 PM

Everywhere I look, all I see are negative comments made about money lost gambling. Mental illness associated with gambling and anything that can illustrate gambling in a negative light.

As someone who considers themselves to be a profitable gambler. The trend of covering only the negative side of the industry puzzles me.

Why is there never mention of the winners.

It's but natural that we have that kind of comments because gambling is risky and people who cannot control their gambling habits and lose a lot of money become example because of their being irresponsible players, it's not the game it's the players, and mentioned of winners in gambling lottery I don't think it's good and will only put the winner in trouble.
Many lottery winners prefer not to headline their names and so do winners of casinos, this is to protect their winnings and their safety, that is why many people think there are only very few winners when in fact, winners want privacy.

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Quote from: Silberman on June 03, 2021, 11:54:12 AM

just because something is illegal that does not mean that you are going to have less access to it, the perfect example of this are drugs, look at all the money that has been invested because of the desire of governments to eradicate the illegal traffic of drugs and all the violence this generates and yet you can get drugs in almost any part of the world whenever you want, when there is demand someone is going to take the risk to offer the supply which means that a prohibition is not the right way to go when it comes to gambling.

Because of greed in money, even how big the risk there are still people who continue to facilitate this kind of activities.

The same way with gambling, there are places that gambling is illegal or there are types of gambling that's illegal in some places, but because of people who continue to patronize it, there are people who take the risk and manage to earned out from this business, government are trying but there's always greed people around.

Not sure how gambling is seen as a big risk because I agree that we are going to lose in gambling but come on why are people looking at gambling as a way of making money, gambling is only meant for fun and it's a mistake if someone wants to earn through it.

Now coming to the legality part, there are many countries where even bitcoins are illegal but people are using them and I don't see a problem because the government shall not decide what people want to do with their money. If I have $100 to spend and I want to buy lottery tickets, the government should have no problem with me burning my hard-earned money for which I have already paid all the taxes.

Gambling addiction is a risk but gambling itself is not, similar to how alcohol is not a problem but excessive consumption and smoking is.

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Quote from: pilosopotasyo on May 30, 2021, 02:53:58 AM

I don't think so, you have little chances to make money from gambling and it will take some time before you can set up a method or your own strategy so you can win, the anti-gambling sentiments are from people who are once compulsive gamblers or had one of their family members, it is to warn people not to consume all their times and money to gambling and not to be deceived that you can make money in gambling.

Each person has different views on what anti gambling campaign entails with. It may be negative for some and that's what OP thinks that he's being deprived of his chance of making money through gambling and that's understandable.

But on the other hand, we all have views on it and that's why it's very subjective.

Gambling is not per se, bad. What makes it bad is the addiction that a person garners from entering such activity without the necessary discipline and self-control.

Just like any addiction in the society, once it gets too much, then it will be considered bad or detrimental to the health of a person. There are always the sides of a spectrum, a person may be profitable in gambling while others feel the opposite. But the key factor here will always be one's self-control and discipline when it comes to these activities.

There are many reasons why people think that gambling is bad, for example one of the objections people have against gambling are religious in nature and while I respect the faith of each person we need to understand that when the admonition against gambling was made people could be enslaved by their debts or even lose family members because of it so it made sense that such a thing was forbidden, but now that casinos fall within the law and such things are illegal as long as you can control your gambling then you are not harming anyone and you should be allowed to gamble if you want.

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Quote from: Silberman on June 03, 2021, 11:54:12 AM

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The main motive in my opinion is that they want less people getting addicted to gambling and having an unhealthy financial health. I think that this is pretty noble thing to do because I have seen people have their lives turned the wrong direction because of their gambling addiction.

But this is the thing, just because something is illegal that does not mean that you are going to have less access to it, the perfect example of this are drugs, look at all the money that has been invested because of the desire of governments to eradicate the illegal traffic of drugs and all the violence this generates and yet you can get drugs in almost any part of the world whenever you want, when there is demand someone is going to take the risk to offer the supply which means that a prohibition is not the right way to go when it comes to gambling.

Because of greed in money, even how big the risk there are still people who continue to facilitate this kind of activities.

The same way with gambling, there are places that gambling is illegal or there are types of gambling that's illegal in some places, but because of people who continue to patronize it, there are people who take the risk and manage to earned out from this business, government are trying but there's always greed people around.

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Quote from: imstillthebest on May 18, 2021, 05:41:04 AM

there are winning post in gambling but loosing post are more than it
. this is why we think they are against gambling but this is the truth , its hard to win in gambling .

Losses occurs in all forms of business and it's not not a respecter of how experienced you an individual is. I'm not saying losses isn't one of the reasons for the anti-gambling campaign am only saying it's not enough reason. I feel gamblers risk a whole lot that could even cost their lives and the easily get too addicted to gambling thereby getting carried away by big odds even when they know the can't win such prediction the still go ahead to stake heavily thereby loosing heavy fortune on games that would ruin their lives.

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Quote from: pilosopotasyo on May 30, 2021, 02:53:58 AM

I don't think so, you have little chances to make money from gambling and it will take some time before you can set up a method or your own strategy so you can win, the anti-gambling sentiments are from people who are once compulsive gamblers or had one of their family members, it is to warn people not to consume all their times and money to gambling and not to be deceived that you can make money in gambling.

I believe that those people behind the anti gambling campaign are those people who have had witnessed their relatives or family members suffered from the consequences of gambling or even they are the person who were used to be as a gambling addict once and successfully win their battle to overcome their gambling addiction. I guess there is no such foul play or motive behind the boycott of those people, they just wanted to warn or to set themselves as an examples of how it is being once a gambling addict or they only wanted to prevent others to become addicted in gambling.

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Quote from: pilosopotasyo on May 30, 2021, 02:53:58 AM

I don't think so, you have little chances to make money from gambling and it will take some time before you can set up a method or your own strategy so you can win, the anti-gambling sentiments are from people who are once compulsive gamblers or had one of their family members, it is to warn people not to consume all their times and money to gambling and not to be deceived that you can make money in gambling.

Each person has different views on what anti gambling campaign entails with. It may be negative for some and that's what OP thinks that he's being deprived of his chance of making money through gambling and that's understandable.

But on the other hand, we all have views on it and that's why it's very subjective.

Gambling is not per se, bad. What makes it bad is the addiction that a person garners from entering such activity without the necessary discipline and self-control.

Just like any addiction in the society, once it gets too much, then it will be considered bad or detrimental to the health of a person. There are always the sides of a spectrum, a person may be profitable in gambling while others feel the opposite. But the key factor here will always be one's self-control and discipline when it comes to these activities.

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The main motive in my opinion is that they want less people getting addicted to gambling and having an unhealthy financial health. I think that this is pretty noble thing to do because I have seen people have their lives turned the wrong direction because of their gambling addiction.

But this is the thing, just because something is illegal that does not mean that you are going to have less access to it, the perfect example of this are drugs, look at all the money that has been invested because of the desire of governments to eradicate the illegal traffic of drugs and all the violence this generates and yet you can get drugs in almost any part of the world whenever you want, when there is demand someone is going to take the risk to offer the supply which means that a prohibition is not the right way to go when it comes to gambling.

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Quote from: Fatunad on May 31, 2021, 06:53:54 PM

Would really have positive and negative depending on the person who do view about gambling because we do have different impressions which means different comment about it.

Its bit understandable on why they do came up with that decision of banning or having that anti gambling campaign is to protect out their citizens on possible gambling addiction.
If there such rule or regulation into our own country then we wont have any choice but to abide with the laws.

Absolutely true mate, we are all have our own point of view in this matter. If the reason why there's such an anti gambling campaign happened at that certain nation is to protect their citizens from the possible effect of gambling which is gambling addiction then I guess there's nothing wrong with that motive. We are all entitle with our own opinion regarding this matter and to be honest each and everyone has their own level of self control when it comes in gambling. Some were too good in controlling themselves like having a good self control to limit their time in engaging in gambling and some are not, some are afraid to make themselves to engage because they are afraid for the probable consequences like they may enjoyed it and that is totally fine.

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Quote from: mu_enrico on June 01, 2021, 08:48:05 PM

I think the meaning lost in translation. Practically means almost, not 100%.

You seem don't get my point, bro. I am not arguing about the meaning of "practically", I don't really care whether it is 100% or less.
In my opinion, "no one supports gambling", is only in theory. While in practicality, it's not proven. So, better to replace "practically" with "theoretically". However, it is just a suggestion, not a must to follow it. If you think what you said has no mistake and no need for a change, that's your right.

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Anyway, context is important

I know it, I never replied before reading carefully and understand it deeply first.
I hope you get my point! Thank you..

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Quote from: pilosopotasyo on May 30, 2021, 02:53:58 AM

Quote from: Hydrogen on May 17, 2021, 06:19:46 PM

is it intended to deprive people like me of opportunities to make money.

I don't think so, you have little chances to make money from gambling and it will take some time before you can set up a method or your own strategy so you can win, the anti-gambling sentiments are from people who are once compulsive gamblers or had one of their family members, it is to warn people not to consume all their times and money to gambling and not to be deceived that you can make money in gambling.

I agree.

Opportunities that exist in gambling is mostly about losing, only little percentage about winning, because it's that hard. The odds will always be in favor of the house because that's how it works, that's what you called "house edge" to sustain their everyday bankroll. Others who won big in gambling just got lucky, played gamble at the right time when gambling sites or physical casinos are ready to make someone wealthy in a certain day because they already get the profit they want.

And that would create FOMO to those people who are thinking about playing gambling but doesn't have enough reason to do so.

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The main motive in my opinion is that they want less people getting addicted to gambling and having an unhealthy financial health. I think that this is pretty noble thing to do because I have seen people have their lives turned the wrong direction because of their gambling addiction.

Yes, that is right because in this pandemic, if people become addicted to gambling, they can lose their money and they can not buy foods that will be the important thing for their lives. People still struggle to survive now, and those campaigns want to warn people not to try playing gambling too often and saving the money for buying foods. If many people can listen to that, people will have a chance to have money and survive because we do not know when this pandemic will end.

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