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Quote from: Silberman on May 28, 2021, 10:21:09 AM

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The thing is

1. Most of the people who gamble lose their money
2. Gamblers who win money inspire others but then those inspired people gamble and lose money because (see no. 1)

Also, money don't last forever. Those who win money gamble again and lose it or spend it lavishly.
There are many other factors which contribute to the negative fame of gambling.

While it is true that the vast majority of gamblers lose money only a very small minority lose big amounts of money, the rest spend money similar to what any person will spend in any hobby and yet those people also get the the bad image of being a gambler, we need to differentiate between those two types of gamblers, the ones with some issues and the ones with not a single one and yet most of the time all gamblers are lumped together and this is what bother many gamblers.

May be that's right but a gambler is a gambler no matter how much he loses. Most of the time the negative fame is due to the repeated losses in gambling.
For example if a person lost in his first attempt he would deposit more and gamble again and lose his money again.
This cycle continues until he loses big and get broke. This is the most common reason since most people fall into this category.

I disagree there are many studies that show that from the whole population of gamblers only 4% to 5% can be described as having problems with the activity, the rest are responsible gamblers, again it seems many people do not see the difference, gambling is like any other activity from which you get entertainment or pleasure, I see many people that have problems with the time they invest in social media to the point their real lives take a hit and yet you see no interest from society to curb down this problem and yet the problem of addicted gamblers is so low and so much attention is given to it.

What would you expect? Its part of reality on where people do only focuses out on to those addicted gamblers who do mess up their life without even knowing on whats the statistics
of it which is really way too less if we do compare out on the entire population which i dont see to put up much attention on that.Its true that there are still lots
of gamblers who could really able to control up theirselves when it comes to gambling. Whenever we do see a country which does prohibit nor banned gambling then
its up to their own reasons on why they have done that but mostly this do talks about minding their own citizens to avoid such addiction
but honestly there are still lots of ways when it comes to accessbility.

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Quote from: pawanjain on May 26, 2021, 09:28:56 AM

Quote from: Silberman on May 25, 2021, 11:05:38 AM

Quote from: pawanjain on May 22, 2021, 11:49:27 AM

The thing is

1. Most of the people who gamble lose their money
2. Gamblers who win money inspire others but then those inspired people gamble and lose money because (see no. 1)

Also, money don't last forever. Those who win money gamble again and lose it or spend it lavishly.
There are many other factors which contribute to the negative fame of gambling.

While it is true that the vast majority of gamblers lose money only a very small minority lose big amounts of money, the rest spend money similar to what any person will spend in any hobby and yet those people also get the the bad image of being a gambler, we need to differentiate between those two types of gamblers, the ones with some issues and the ones with not a single one and yet most of the time all gamblers are lumped together and this is what bother many gamblers.

May be that's right but a gambler is a gambler no matter how much he loses. Most of the time the negative fame is due to the repeated losses in gambling.
For example if a person lost in his first attempt he would deposit more and gamble again and lose his money again.
This cycle continues until he loses big and get broke. This is the most common reason since most people fall into this category.

I disagree there are many studies that show that from the whole population of gamblers only 4% to 5% can be described as having problems with the activity, the rest are responsible gamblers, again it seems many people do not see the difference, gambling is like any other activity from which you get entertainment or pleasure, I see many people that have problems with the time they invest in social media to the point their real lives take a hit and yet you see no interest from society to curb down this problem and yet the problem of addicted gamblers is so low and so much attention is given to it.

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Quote from: Silberman on May 25, 2021, 11:05:38 AM

Quote from: pawanjain on May 22, 2021, 11:49:27 AM

The thing is

1. Most of the people who gamble lose their money
2. Gamblers who win money inspire others but then those inspired people gamble and lose money because (see no. 1)

Also, money don't last forever. Those who win money gamble again and lose it or spend it lavishly.
There are many other factors which contribute to the negative fame of gambling.

While it is true that the vast majority of gamblers lose money only a very small minority lose big amounts of money, the rest spend money similar to what any person will spend in any hobby and yet those people also get the the bad image of being a gambler, we need to differentiate between those two types of gamblers, the ones with some issues and the ones with not a single one and yet most of the time all gamblers are lumped together and this is what bother many gamblers.

May be that's right but a gambler is a gambler no matter how much he loses. Most of the time the negative fame is due to the repeated losses in gambling.
For example if a person lost in his first attempt he would deposit more and gamble again and lose his money again.
This cycle continues until he loses big and get broke. This is the most common reason since most people fall into this category.

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Quote from: Silberman on May 25, 2021, 11:05:38 AM

Quote from: pawanjain on May 22, 2021, 11:49:27 AM

The thing is

1. Most of the people who gamble lose their money
2. Gamblers who win money inspire others but then those inspired people gamble and lose money because (see no. 1)

Also, money don't last forever. Those who win money gamble again and lose it or spend it lavishly.
There are many other factors which contribute to the negative fame of gambling.

While it is true that the vast majority of gamblers lose money only a very small minority lose big amounts of money, the rest spend money similar to what any person will spend in any hobby and yet those people also get the the bad image of being a gambler, we need to differentiate between those two types of gamblers, the ones with some issues and the ones with not a single one and yet most of the time all gamblers are lumped together and this is what bother many gamblers.

because the negative effects are highlighted even if you are in the minority category. just take for example, you only have the money for your basic expenses, and yet, you still gamble it, and once you lost it all, what will happen to your bills? if you can't afford this lifestyle, better not try it. the fact is, very few gamblers have their full control once they are already in their games. so many anti-gambling campaigns, because of so many lives ruined, whether you are a small timer or high roller. only few can really find success in gambling.

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Quote from: pawanjain on May 22, 2021, 11:49:27 AM

The thing is

1. Most of the people who gamble lose their money
2. Gamblers who win money inspire others but then those inspired people gamble and lose money because (see no. 1)

Also, money don't last forever. Those who win money gamble again and lose it or spend it lavishly.
There are many other factors which contribute to the negative fame of gambling.

While it is true that the vast majority of gamblers lose money only a very small minority lose big amounts of money, the rest spend money similar to what any person will spend in any hobby and yet those people also get the the bad image of being a gambler, we need to differentiate between those two types of gamblers, the ones with some issues and the ones with not a single one and yet most of the time all gamblers are lumped together and this is what bother many gamblers.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on May 23, 2021, 07:21:15 AM

I live in a country where gambling is de jure legal. But it is very difficult for the casinos to get license so 90% of the gamblers depend on illegal gambling dens. Here organized religion is kept out of governance, so we don't have stupid anti-gambling laws. On the other hand, I have travelled to countries such as India, where gambling is illegal. Here the gambling sector is completely under the control of criminal gangs, since legal gambling is not possible. And this is what happens when the government comes up with stupid bans.

Gambling is something similar to the usage of cryptocurrencies. In several countries there isn't anything regulated for the usage of cryptocurrencies. Quite often there comes a message stating the ban of cryptocurrency usage, but there won't be any strong reason for it. So, people look for the other loop holes for cryptocurrency usage. Same as that is with gambling, people make use of the illegal possible ways.

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I live in a country where gambling is de jure legal. But it is very difficult for the casinos to get license so 90% of the gamblers depend on illegal gambling dens. Here organized religion is kept out of governance, so we don't have stupid anti-gambling laws. On the other hand, I have travelled to countries such as India, where gambling is illegal. Here the gambling sector is completely under the control of criminal gangs, since legal gambling is not possible. And this is what happens when the government comes up with stupid bans.

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Quote from: Twentyonepaylots on May 22, 2021, 03:44:24 PM

It was directed to everyone who's primarily seeking to gamble for gains. Because they will have this negative connotation that it's very easy to earn huge racks of cash when you gamble which is not entirely true. It's for people who are aware that they do not have self-control, so they don't go bankrupt over a very stupid decision such as gambling all their life savings away.

I think that campaign is for every person, including those who already gamble and people who want to start gambling. It will remind them about the danger of playing gambling and what they can get from gambling. If more people can know about that campaign and they can think about the danger, maybe they will not try to involve in gambling instead stay away from gambling and search for other ways to make money.

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Quote from: ShowOff on May 22, 2021, 03:57:36 PM

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But there really are those people that cannot be helped and has to be reminded through several materials like these campaigns.

They are included in the category of heavy addict who can no longer control themselve in gambling. In some case, heavy addict are also advised to consult a specialist to reduce their addiction so that they can control and even stop gambling.

Yes and those campaigns are really for them but since it's in public, even those people who are not gamblers will also extract the message. And just as the idea that they are bringing with that warning.
Then those people will have to think of it and will realize that they should do as what the campaign says.

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Quote from: ReiMomo on May 22, 2021, 03:47:37 PM

So I guess, there's no motive why there's an organization like this, I think they have an insight into how will it worst if everyone relies on gambling and causing money, they will never realize that gambling is just for entertainment purposes only.

If that is their true aim, I think their effort are still justified because apart from legalizing gambling, they want gamblers to have the responsibility for that gambling. Most gamblers find it difficult to have good self-control so many of them will run into problem eventually. I think gambling will not always be profitable and it doesn't deserve to be the main source of income for every player.

Quote from: tabas on May 22, 2021, 03:52:37 PM

But there really are those people that cannot be helped and has to be reminded through several materials like these campaigns.

They are included in the category of heavy addict who can no longer control themselve in gambling. In some case, heavy addict are also advised to consult a specialist to reduce their addiction so that they can control and even stop gambling.

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Quote from: Twentyonepaylots on May 22, 2021, 03:44:24 PM

It was directed to everyone who's primarily seeking to gamble for gains. Because they will have this negative connotation that it's very easy to earn huge racks of cash when you gamble which is not entirely true. It's for people who are aware that they do not have self-control, so they don't go bankrupt over a very stupid decision such as gambling all their life savings away.

They're making that negative claims so that those who are experiencing addiction and to those who wants to try it out will just stopped after seeing those campaigns. It's actually unfair for those who are having good terms in gambling and knows what they does.
But there really are those people that cannot be helped and has to be reminded through several materials like these campaigns.

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It is simply that the things that come up in my mind why there's an anti-gambling campaign, just because they don't want to increase the number of those gambling addicts that may possible when they come at the stage of being addicted, they will most likely commit a crime. They know that not all players will become a winner and petty those loser chasing money through gambling.

So I guess, there's no motive why there's an organization like this, I think they have an insight into how will it worst if everyone relies on gambling and causing money, they will never realize that gambling is just for entertainment purposes only.

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It was directed to everyone who's primarily seeking to gamble for gains. Because they will have this negative connotation that it's very easy to earn huge racks of cash when you gamble which is not entirely true. It's for people who are aware that they do not have self-control, so they don't go bankrupt over a very stupid decision such as gambling all their life savings away.

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That will never stop. There will always be those articles and reminders that people shouldn't gamble because it only brings disaster to everyone's lives. It's also always giving that reason about mental sickness and OP got it right. But somehow, there's also basis for having that reason because some gamblers that have been found to be addicted needs to seek and have a mental help. I understand that they're too mindful to not everyone fall into addiction but they should also be transparent what it can do to the economy and a few professional gamblers.

Gambling is looked upon as something one would feel hesitant telling others, that is the kind of image that has been built around gambling. Some religions even consider gambling a sin. I won't argue someone's religion but in my opinion, I don't see any problem with people spending a few bucks for their entertainment. You look at any form of entertainment and it will usually come at a cost and that's how gambling should be seen.

There are people who might be addicted to gambling but that can happen with almost every entertainment means. For example if you are drinking too much you will get addicted to it and someone playing games for entertainment might spend too much money buying the game items and that's also a kind of addiction.

I think they're going against it when someone goes more than what they can afford and losses it with the effect of being addicted. There's no need to argue with anyone's belief, we respect what they think and as well as respects us in return. I do get the point that addiction comes in various forms and not in gambling, this is very true but they're more impactful in gambling and that's why all eyes are on it and they're looking at it as a habit that's not acceptable.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on May 22, 2021, 07:25:28 AM

Even in the past years when you say gambling people are really negative towards it because of its risk which is true, many people playing it don't admit to their loved ones and friends that they are in a casino and burning their fortunes away because many are negative and instead of a profit they will think that all your money went to a lost

And there are people that become addicted to it that is why many are pretty negative towards gambling I think that is why some gambling facilities and establishments shutdown and gambling become a ban in other countries, I think this is not new and there's no motive needed people to tend to just give all negative sides to gambling and not the positive ones.

According to my own opinion there's no behind motive in anti the gambling campaign. I guess those people behind the marketing field have their own study, explanation and reason why there's no positive campaign regarding the gambling. Maybe it's because the government since it's true that gambling affect the life of the people negatively. Because they got high taxes from gambling they just let them operate but no good campaign.

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Quote from: batang_bitcoin on May 21, 2021, 04:22:24 PM

That will never stop. There will always be those articles and reminders that people shouldn't gamble because it only brings disaster to everyone's lives. It's also always giving that reason about mental sickness and OP got it right. But somehow, there's also basis for having that reason because some gamblers that have been found to be addicted needs to seek and have a mental help. I understand that they're too mindful to not everyone fall into addiction but they should also be transparent what it can do to the economy and a few professional gamblers.

Gambling is looked upon as something one would feel hesitant telling others, that is the kind of image that has been built around gambling. Some religions even consider gambling a sin. I won't argue someone's religion but in my opinion, I don't see any problem with people spending a few bucks for their entertainment. You look at any form of entertainment and it will usually come at a cost and that's how gambling should be seen.

There are people who might be addicted to gambling but that can happen with almost every entertainment means. For example if you are drinking too much you will get addicted to it and someone playing games for entertainment might spend too much money buying the game items and that's also a kind of addiction.

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Quote from: Hydrogen on May 17, 2021, 06:19:46 PM

Everywhere I look, all I see are negative comments made about money lost gambling. Mental illness associated with gambling and anything that can illustrate gambling in a negative light.

As someone who considers themselves to be a profitable gambler. The trend of covering only the negative side of the industry puzzles me.

Why is there never mention of the winners.

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I think the sad truth is, people who lose big money gambling. Are the same people who would lose big money investing in the stock market. Some demographics simply don't make good financial decisions. There are always big losers and big winners in every industry. And don't understand why gambling is being painted in a light where only the big losers are acknowledged.

Fantasy sports is illegal in my US state. This may deprive me of options and opportunities to make money and profit.

To me there is a question of whether the media's negative coverage of gambling is intended to protect people who make bad gambling or investment decisions. Or is it intended to deprive people like me of opportunities to make money.

The thing is

1. Most of the people who gamble lose their money
2. Gamblers who win money inspire others but then those inspired people gamble and lose money because (see no. 1)

Also, money don't last forever. Those who win money gamble again and lose it or spend it lavishly.
There are many other factors which contribute to the negative fame of gambling.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on May 22, 2021, 07:25:28 AM

Even in the past years when you say gambling people are really negative towards it because of its risk which is true, many people playing it don't admit to their loved ones and friends that they are in a casino and burning their fortunes away because many are negative and instead of a profit they will think that all your money went to a lost

And there are people that become addicted to it that is why many are pretty negative towards gambling I think that is why some gambling facilities and establishments shutdown and gambling become a ban in other countries, I think this is not new and there's no motive needed people to tend to just give all negative sides to gambling and not the positive ones.

And it's true that people also lose money in gambling. Obviously it's not good for people to gamble but if you have the money to spend, it's not going to be bad for you.

This could be the reason why some countries that made gambling illegal just set casinos far from the cities or just put the casinos where they know people who are going there has money to spend. Las Vegas or Macau for instance, you wouldn't be going to these places if you don't have money to spend.

Apparently, I think you are right Casino's in different countries tend to be placed far from establishments that are crowded and mostly far from schools because students will surely be going into it, but what about if it is online gambling? even though some gambling casinos are surely prohibited and establish in far places there is online gambling that is still accessible and crypto gambling is surely anonymous most of the time, I think in different countries that have ban gambling includes online casinos as well.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on May 22, 2021, 07:25:28 AM

Even in the past years when you say gambling people are really negative towards it because of its risk which is true, many people playing it don't admit to their loved ones and friends that they are in a casino and burning their fortunes away because many are negative and instead of a profit they will think that all your money went to a lost

And there are people that become addicted to it that is why many are pretty negative towards gambling I think that is why some gambling facilities and establishments shutdown and gambling become a ban in other countries, I think this is not new and there's no motive needed people to tend to just give all negative sides to gambling and not the positive ones.

And it's true that people also lose money in gambling. Obviously it's not good for people to gamble but if you have the money to spend, it's not going to be bad for you.

This could be the reason why some countries that made gambling illegal just set casinos far from the cities or just put the casinos where they know people who are going there has money to spend. Las Vegas or Macau for instance, you wouldn't be going to these places if you don't have money to spend.

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Why would it affect you though? You are just a player and most anti-gambling campaigns are targeted mostly on the gambling businesses that profits out of the "irresponsible" gamblers that you are saying. The taxes that the gambling industry is heavily written off so I don't think that we are going to be happy about that too.

Even if he's just a player it could still potentially affect him because just like what OP said the media focuses on the losers and it's only going to encourage the government to do something about it. While that's true the government are making money off gambling they will still look for ways to limit gambling when possible. Iirc Australia has one of the biggest average loss per gambler and they're starting to curb gambling by making it illegal.

Furthermore anti-gambling campaigns turn the common opinion of the society against gamblers. People start seeing them in a wrong way, as all gamblers were sick, irresponsible, mentally ill or unstable, because that is the portrait of gamblers exhibited in propagandas, movies, soap operas, news... When we see negative representations of gamblers' behavior on those campaigns, we never see an attached disclosure message pointing out that only a small percentage of total gamblers are actually problem gamblers. They represent the situation luring the public to believe every gamblers are addicted and impulsive individuals.

So it's accurate to suppose gamblers feel offended by such campaigns.

It is just a stereotype, the problem is that many people believe in stereotypes since they never take the time to think for themselves and see if what they are seeing in the media is true or not, what I find funny is how people want to prohibit gambling just because a very small amount of people are addicted to it but if we were to suggest to ban social media because a great deal of people area addicted to it and it has huge negative effects on society they will take a look at us as if we were crazy, when something like that will in fact be of a bigger benefit than to prohibit gambling.

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