What's the motive behind the anti gambling campaign - page 6.

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Quote from: zanezane on May 20, 2021, 09:00:28 AM

Why would it affect you though? You are just a player and most anti-gambling campaigns are targeted mostly on the gambling businesses that profits out of the "irresponsible" gamblers that you are saying. The taxes that the gambling industry is heavily written off so I don't think that we are going to be happy about that too.

Even if he's just a player it could still potentially affect him because just like what OP said the media focuses on the losers and it's only going to encourage the government to do something about it. While that's true the government are making money off gambling they will still look for ways to limit gambling when possible. Iirc Australia has one of the biggest average loss per gambler and they're starting to curb gambling by making it illegal.

Furthermore anti-gambling campaigns turn the common opinion of the society against gamblers. People start seeing them in a wrong way, as all gamblers were sick, irresponsible, mentally ill or unstable, because that is the portrait of gamblers exhibited in propagandas, movies, soap operas, news... When we see negative representations of gamblers' behavior on those campaigns, we never see an attached disclosure message pointing out that only a small percentage of total gamblers are actually problem gamblers. They represent the situation luring the public to believe every gamblers are addicted and impulsive individuals.

So it's accurate to suppose gamblers feel offended by such campaigns.

Anti-gambling campaign I guess works only on gambling platforms and casinos that has no business permit that's consider as illegal, and mostly people are addicted to those illegal gambling because they can't afford to play in a casino, so in short, gambling addiction is really hard to prevent since people will always find a way to gamble secretly.

Besides, it's their choices to play gambling, however, their logic seems not working because after they lost their money in gambling, they will ask help to their local Government for food, how ironic.

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There are only few gambling winners compared to the number of people who lost all their life savings in gambling. Not all people who had good fortunes in gambling had a good life. You can find it all over the internet, people who had hit a jackpot and lost it all in am instant due to poor financial management.

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Quote from: Kasabus on May 21, 2021, 06:14:16 AM

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Quote from: Obito on May 17, 2021, 09:03:58 PM

Because there are too few of a winners compared to losers in gambling, also gambling isn't a healthy habit to have since it is a vice and it can be addicting. The motive behind the campaign is that they want to help people deter from possibility of gambling addiction.

I get your point and that is simply correct but also they are depriving people that want to gamble and want to spend their money legally .

becoming an addict in gambling is our own responsibility and stupidity , we must study first every details in what we are entering and this is how gamble must be treated .

If we have no solution other than banning gambling, then this world will not be a better place to live.

Just think of cigarettes, we know it's bad for our health but it's not banned, why was that?
Another one is liquor, it could make people make a bad decision when under the influence of liquor, why it's not banned?

Simple because there are people who are responsible enough who know the risk, and they were able to manage it effectively.

Well its different if you used to play gambling everyday but I'm sure you will get used to it since there are so many alternatives in the world that we can spend our times on.

Also don't be surprised if they didn't ban the cigarretes and liquor since it really gives huge taxes to the government so maybe their intention on why they do that anti gambling campaign is to do a regulation and they can ask a higher taxes from gambling operators.

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Quote from: peter0425 on May 20, 2021, 11:59:59 PM

Quote from: Obito on May 17, 2021, 09:03:58 PM

Because there are too few of a winners compared to losers in gambling, also gambling isn't a healthy habit to have since it is a vice and it can be addicting. The motive behind the campaign is that they want to help people deter from possibility of gambling addiction.

I get your point and that is simply correct but also they are depriving people that want to gamble and want to spend their money legally .

becoming an addict in gambling is our own responsibility and stupidity , we must study first every details in what we are entering and this is how gamble must be treated .

If we have no solution other than banning gambling, then this world will not be a better place to live.

Just think of cigarettes, we know it's bad for our health but it's not banned, why was that?
Another one is liquor, it could make people make a bad decision when under the influence of liquor, why it's not banned?

Simple because there are people who are responsible enough who know the risk, and they were able to manage it effectively.

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Quote from: Johnyz on May 20, 2021, 06:32:29 PM

That campaign is great to spread awareness, because gambling is only for those who have extra money and afford to lose it, ordinary people should not depend on their luck in gambling, that’s too risky. I have a friend who sold his own car because of gambling, he undergoes to rehabilitation and fortunately he’s fine now. Just enjoy gambling and yes, always have time limit on playing and practice budgeting.

Maybe this is what a lot of people can't control from the anti gambling campaign so the government will have a survey of this bad impact and maybe the anti gambling campaign just wants to prevent the spread of addiction that continues to be experienced when the control is not controlled by oneself.
Indeed, in gambling, many are trapped, not only your friends, my brother is addicted so he has spent a lot of assets, including his real estate business, which was destroyed because gambling games could not recover, therefore the prohibition is not a problem so it is included in the regulation of how to do it applied, but for me stay calm in facing all this.

If the government is concerned with their people and they see the number of addicted people increase to this pandemic, they need to do something to help them. They can use the anti-gambling campaign to make their people realize how dangerous gambling and what the impact that people will get in the future. Many people lose their control while playing gambling, but they do not realize that until someone tells them and asks them to get the test if they are addicted to gambling. We control ourselves and not controlled by gambling and we need to have self-control while playing gambling.

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Quote from: Obito on May 17, 2021, 09:03:58 PM

Because there are too few of a winners compared to losers in gambling, also gambling isn't a healthy habit to have since it is a vice and it can be addicting. The motive behind the campaign is that they want to help people deter from possibility of gambling addiction.

I get your point and that is simply correct but also they are depriving people that want to gamble and want to spend their money legally .

becoming an addict in gambling is our own responsibility and stupidity , we must study first every details in what we are entering and this is how gamble must be treated .

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Quote from: Johnyz on May 20, 2021, 06:32:29 PM

That campaign is great to spread awareness, because gambling is only for those who have extra money and afford to lose it, ordinary people should not depend on their luck in gambling, that’s too risky. I have a friend who sold his own car because of gambling, he undergoes to rehabilitation and fortunately he’s fine now. Just enjoy gambling and yes, always have time limit on playing and practice budgeting.

Maybe this is what a lot of people can't control from the anti gambling campaign so the government will have a survey of this bad impact and maybe the anti gambling campaign just wants to prevent the spread of addiction that continues to be experienced when the control is not controlled by oneself.
Indeed, in gambling, many are trapped, not only your friends, my brother is addicted so he has spent a lot of assets, including his real estate business, which was destroyed because gambling games could not recover, therefore the prohibition is not a problem so it is included in the regulation of how to do it applied, but for me stay calm in facing all this.

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Quote from: ralle14 on May 20, 2021, 06:57:44 PM

Quote from: zanezane on May 20, 2021, 09:00:28 AM

Why would it affect you though? You are just a player and most anti-gambling campaigns are targeted mostly on the gambling businesses that profits out of the "irresponsible" gamblers that you are saying. The taxes that the gambling industry is heavily written off so I don't think that we are going to be happy about that too.

Even if he's just a player it could still potentially affect him because just like what OP said the media focuses on the losers and it's only going to encourage the government to do something about it. While that's true the government are making money off gambling they will still look for ways to limit gambling when possible. Iirc Australia has one of the biggest average loss per gambler and they're starting to curb gambling by making it illegal.

Furthermore anti-gambling campaigns turn the common opinion of the society against gamblers. People start seeing them in a wrong way, as all gamblers were sick, irresponsible, mentally ill or unstable, because that is the portrait of gamblers exhibited in propagandas, movies, soap operas, news... When we see negative representations of gamblers' behavior on those campaigns, we never see an attached disclosure message pointing out that only a small percentage of total gamblers are actually problem gamblers. They represent the situation luring the public to believe every gamblers are addicted and impulsive individuals.

So it's accurate to suppose gamblers feel offended by such campaigns.

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Quote from: zanezane on May 20, 2021, 09:00:28 AM

Why would it affect you though? You are just a player and most anti-gambling campaigns are targeted mostly on the gambling businesses that profits out of the "irresponsible" gamblers that you are saying. The taxes that the gambling industry is heavily written off so I don't think that we are going to be happy about that too.

Even if he's just a player it could still potentially affect him because just like what OP said the media focuses on the losers and it's only going to encourage the government to do something about it. While that's true the government are making money off gambling they will still look for ways to limit gambling when possible. Iirc Australia has one of the biggest average loss per gambler and they're starting to curb gambling by making it illegal.

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Quote from: Hydrogen on May 17, 2021, 07:19:46 PM

To me there is a question of whether the media's negative coverage of gambling is intended to protect people who make bad gambling or investment decisions. Or is it intended to deprive people like me of opportunities to make money.

They are just educating people on the possible scenario if they become addict in gambling, and we cannot say its a lie simply because there are so many gamblers who took their lives because of being addict in gambling. We know that we can get money in gambling but there's no guarantee on that, you as yourself should always know your limit and understand that gambling is not a great source of income, it can eat you alive.

^ This is how it goes and we all know it. Just because others are being profitable, does not mean it's enough to convince the crowd. We should understand that these people who are against gambling lost some of their valuable things with them. And some of them also lost people they loved because of gambling. But it does not mean you have to be affected by this. Those people knew the consequences and the risk of gambling. I think you are fine.
No need to oppose their campaign and enjoy your profits alone.

That campaign is great to spread awareness, because gambling is only for those who have extra money and afford to lose it, ordinary people should not depend on their luck in gambling, that’s too risky. I have a friend who sold his own car because of gambling, he undergoes to rehabilitation and fortunately he’s fine now. Just enjoy gambling and yes, always have time limit on playing and practice budgeting.

Not that extra money but for those who do seek out for entertainment without minding much about their finances that would really be spent out and as long it would be in control or moderation
then it wont be much of a problem.

There are places or countries in the world which their government is really mindful about their citizens when it comes to particular things which do include out addiction.Theyre trying out to protect
on the chance on getting addicted and wreck up their lives because of it which is good.

If a country doesnt mind about revenue or tax that it gives then this would be the nearest possible reason on such anti gambling campaign.

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Quote from: Hydrogen on May 17, 2021, 07:19:46 PM

Everywhere I look, all I see are negative comments made about money lost gambling. Mental illness associated with gambling and anything that can illustrate gambling in a negative light.

As someone who considers themselves to be a profitable gambler. The trend of covering only the negative side of the industry puzzles me.

Why is there never mention of the winners.

Because there are more losers than winners and gambling is luck based and this is not a place to make money, people are showing the risk of gambling within their means because people are still not restricting themselves and go overboard and still chasing their losses which is one of the riskiest behavior in gambling, it's more of a warning than anti-gambling.

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I think the fact is, that while the chances of winning and losing in gambling (not counting house edge) are the same, the problem is with the limited funds, that's why it seems as if people lose more than win.
For instance, a gambler plays and keeps winning, sometimes losing, and, over time, he increases the bet to make more profit, and it goes higher and higher when at some point, they lose everything without the ability to recoup. That's why they make a conclusion and write a post about losing all the money. However, possibly, had they placed one more bet - they could've won. Sometimes it happens, sometimes it doesn't. The only way of avoiding this and still enjoy gambling is making small bets and never increasing them in the chase for big money.

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on May 20, 2021, 06:25:23 PM

Quote from: crzy on May 20, 2021, 06:21:24 PM

Quote from: Hydrogen on May 17, 2021, 07:19:46 PM

To me there is a question of whether the media's negative coverage of gambling is intended to protect people who make bad gambling or investment decisions. Or is it intended to deprive people like me of opportunities to make money.

They are just educating people on the possible scenario if they become addict in gambling, and we cannot say its a lie simply because there are so many gamblers who took their lives because of being addict in gambling. We know that we can get money in gambling but there's no guarantee on that, you as yourself should always know your limit and understand that gambling is not a great source of income, it can eat you alive.

^ This is how it goes and we all know it. Just because others are being profitable, does not mean it's enough to convince the crowd. We should understand that these people who are against gambling lost some of their valuable things with them. And some of them also lost people they loved because of gambling. But it does not mean you have to be affected by this. Those people knew the consequences and the risk of gambling. I think you are fine.
No need to oppose their campaign and enjoy your profits alone.

That campaign is great to spread awareness, because gambling is only for those who have extra money and afford to lose it, ordinary people should not depend on their luck in gambling, that’s too risky. I have a friend who sold his own car because of gambling, he undergoes to rehabilitation and fortunately he’s fine now. Just enjoy gambling and yes, always have time limit on playing and practice budgeting.

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Quote from: crzy on May 20, 2021, 06:21:24 PM

Quote from: Hydrogen on May 17, 2021, 07:19:46 PM

To me there is a question of whether the media's negative coverage of gambling is intended to protect people who make bad gambling or investment decisions. Or is it intended to deprive people like me of opportunities to make money.

They are just educating people on the possible scenario if they become addict in gambling, and we cannot say its a lie simply because there are so many gamblers who took their lives because of being addict in gambling. We know that we can get money in gambling but there's no guarantee on that, you as yourself should always know your limit and understand that gambling is not a great source of income, it can eat you alive.

^ This is how it goes and we all know it. Just because others are being profitable, does not mean it's enough to convince the crowd. We should understand that these people who are against gambling lost some of their valuable things with them. And some of them also lost people they loved because of gambling. But it does not mean you have to be affected by this. Those people knew the consequences and the risk of gambling. I think you are fine.
No need to oppose their campaign and enjoy your profits alone.

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Quote from: Hydrogen on May 17, 2021, 07:19:46 PM

To me there is a question of whether the media's negative coverage of gambling is intended to protect people who make bad gambling or investment decisions. Or is it intended to deprive people like me of opportunities to make money.

They are just educating people on the possible scenario if they become addict in gambling, and we cannot say its a lie simply because there are so many gamblers who took their lives because of being addict in gambling. We know that we can get money in gambling but there's no guarantee on that, you as yourself should always know your limit and understand that gambling is not a great source of income, it can eat you alive.

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Quote from: Botnake on May 20, 2021, 08:44:03 AM

I don't respect people who are anti-gambling as I myself am a gambler, that's an insult to me.

Well, just because we think that they criticize us.
However, it is simple, these people can’t make profits from gambling and actually lost enough funds that make them do what they do which is to go against gambling. Honestly, gambling consequences are well declared, --risks are set and so is the winning. But I think these people can’t accept the fact that they lost some and this is the only way they can pressure their resentments. Little did they know, these platforms are owned by big persons who do not give a damn about them. All they care about is to earn money and clean the other’s money within their platform.

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I don't think the anti-gambling movement or what you say is doing anything wrong, honestly.

You just can't compare gambling to any other job, a guy who maybe a big loser in gambling can be quite productive worker and can earn good money by hard work. It's not at all good to compare them, because they aren't even the same. It's so gross to generalize a loser in gambling= a loser in real world!

Gambling has destructive conclusions and many, millions of people lose family, money, respect and many even commit suicide and hence many countries has made it illegal as well.

Obviously it is a negative thing, you just can't say it's a good thing because you think it's good and easy way to make money? It's not lol, even when you win big, you will simply lose it all at the end because of our human all-time greedy nature, and almost all religions as well consider it a sin.

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I don't think there is any motive behind the anti-gambling campaign. There are lots of gamblers who have thrown away their life after losing a big amount and there is s serious need to educate such gamblers to ensure the deaths don't keep coming. Gambling addiction is often times seen as a joke and people would laugh if someone tells them they are going through a problem with gambling.

While we don't discuss winners because all those winners at some point will throw their money back to the casino slowly but surely. There is a house edge that comes with every game and hence theoretically you cannot win against the house so don't consider gambling as a means of earning money. I am not saying gambling is wrong at all, I myself gamble, but there is a need to make sure we are gambling for fun and within our limits.

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Whenever there is popularity of some business in the market there are people who unnecessarily wants to blame them or mostly online communities just need another topic of discussion by starting a campaign.The gambling industry is on the verge of rising and so called gambling addicts are increasing but players need to control their playing habits to a particular extent in which they lose upto some extent.So there are so much alcohol addicts or say drug addicts but still they are openly being traded in the market in sight of government and they earn revenue from them.House has always on the profit side from the beginning and specified in their terms and conditions for legit casinos.You win you are happy and after you lose you blame others for the same.Check probably fair script and reviews on BTCGosu site for it.Your life should not overflowed with any kind of negative addiction that could ruin your social as well as personal life.

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Quote from: Botnake on May 20, 2021, 08:44:03 AM

I don't respect people who are anti-gambling as I myself am a gambler, that's an insult to me.

The problem here is not gambling, but it's the gambler who lacks knowledge as they become irresponsible in gambling.
When we lose money in gambling, it's not gambling that should be blamed, but us, because we are the ones who is managing ourselves.

haven't we thought that the gambling industry is also contributing taxes to the government we all benefit from?

If we don't know that, then there's no surprise we will hate gambling.

Why would it affect you though? You are just a player and most anti-gambling campaigns are targeted mostly on the gambling businesses that profits out of the "irresponsible" gamblers that you are saying. The taxes that the gambling industry is heavily written off so I don't think that we are going to be happy about that too.

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