What's worse: cigar addiction or gambling addiction - page 4.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on October 31, 2019, 01:34:33 AM

In some points, smoking is not as bad as gambling but both of them are bad and they can affect anyone's lives.

If you are addicted into gambling, yep anything can be sold and be done to play the game but you can prevent it with the help of other people or relatives. You can say that cigarettes are cheap but the effects of it into our body are far worse compare to gambling addiction. Even in our country, cigarette prices doubled in the last 1-2 years I think and it can increase more in the next years which can help those who are addicted into cigarettes because they can't afford it anymore or maybe they can but they will lessen it because of lack of funds to buy.

It's actually the damage that cigarette addiction does to the victim that makes it terrible and worse than gambling because ordinarily gambling everyone would prefer cigar to gambling and to think the smoker would definitely stop smoking as soon as they finish their money but the extent of damage that's likely to done to the addicted person is unpredictable.

I really don't know why people find it hard to do things in moderation when they are not babies that are just growing, smoking cigar is a good habit, it keeps the body warm and that's the same with gambling but once it becomes an addiction it becomes a great challenge.

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Want you addicted to cigarettes or gambling, everything is difficult to get rid of it. But compared to being addicted to gambling, I prefer to be addicted to cigarettes. I know cigarettes are dangerous to health, but the money spent on cigarettes is much cheaper than you gambling. That's what I think about why I prefer to be addicted to cigar / cigarette.

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On my own I can not judge what is worse, and for me this is good news. It’s clear that any addiction is bad, smoking is probably safer because it is much easier to get rid of it than from those risks due to gambling...

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Quote from: rdluffy on October 31, 2019, 07:42:39 PM

Every kind of addiction is bad for health and your finances
Everyone know the bad thing cigars do to health, and they are expensive

not that expensive because in some part of the world cigarettes are very cheap and can even afford of children tahts why they learn to smoke in younger years,what is expensive is our medical treatment if the effect of cigars comes to our life

Quote from: rdluffy on October 31, 2019, 07:42:39 PM

With addiction in gambling people can lost more than paper money, there's a stage where people gamble their cars, gold, or even their houses, and there's another problems, because people tends to be anxious, depressed, sad and a lot of more things

thats all normal if the person is addicted in gambling because for them they can win back the losses in single game bot knowing that upon expectations they come to fail continuity and in the end losing all they have is the profit

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Quote from: White Christmas on November 01, 2019, 12:08:24 AM

If I am in a place where I can choose between cigar addiction or gambling addiction I will pick cigar addiction because in cigarettes It helps me to release my stress or relieved my stress in order to think well although I may get some sick or lung cancer I will go here because this may help me to think and relax, while gambling is you can have a possibility to gain and win a huge amount of money but there is no guaranteed that you can really won or maybe you can lose a huge amount of money because of addiction and greediness.

The great victory is only apparent. all will return to the city. if we are active gamblers. believe that the dealer will not want to lose. I am a cigarette addict and also gambling after I see gambling is far more cruel. our thinking can be disturbed if we are playing gambling or not playing. no self-centeredness. avoid gambling if we don't want to be poor

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Quote from: deisik on October 31, 2019, 02:54:51 AM

Addiction is a pathology

So if it is a love for something, it is a pathological love. And the pathological part of it refers to the fact (actually, two facts) that an addict can't willingly stop using or doing something and he understands that it ruins his love (corrected) life. I think it is an important addiction (corrected) addition

In this way, if someone tremendously loves a sport (or a spouse), or some other activity, say, fishing (or someone), but it doesn't hurt him, then we can't call it addiction. And thus we arrive at a conclusion that addiction is a self-destructive love for something (and gambling addiction fits into this definition perfectly)

I am sure that so many victims of addiction didn't see it as a problem in the beginning and to them it's just love for the act. Once an act is becoming uncontrollable it has most definitely become an addiction and there's a need for urgent intervention.

I am a big fan of sport and there was a time I noticed I could do anything, spend an amount of money for sport either in form of betting or by just participating. At that point, I knew I needed help, I didn't wait for it to escalate. I hate to compare which of the addiction is better between cigar and gambling because I know they are both disastrous and none is better than another.

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Quote from: airdnasxela on October 31, 2019, 08:17:14 AM

Both can be worse, the level of addiction is what matters. Because at the end of the day, it's still addiction. Addiction was never healthy mentally. But with cigarette, not only our mental states that are only being affected but our physical health as well. It is slowly killing us. And with gambling, it might not affect us physically, but it can financially.
We can say that one is much worse depending on the effect it brought to a certain person's life. Smoking can lead to sickness while gambling can lead to loss.

Even if the addicting level is not too big, that can be worse because that will makes people forget about their health and their money. We should avoid becoming addicting to gambling, and so do with a cigar before it's too late. At least, if we have cigar addiction, we can try to reduce how many times we smoke until we can stop the addicting. That will happens too with gambling addiction.

We can try to reduce it because that will be the only way to stop the addicting. But the best is if we can get help from other people to solve our problem so we can have a healthy body and not thinking about gambling.

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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on October 31, 2019, 06:58:05 PM

Cigar addiction is worse, why? Even if you stop smoking, your lungs is already damaged. You cant get a new pair of lungs from any store and have yours replaced. There are even times when you stop smoking, you will feel different and try to smoke again. Unlike gambling addiction, if you stop, you work again and you. can still recover all the money you lost

We need to get a proper perspective on this

When your lungs are irreparably damaged due to heavy smoking, your whole life will have long been ruined due to gambling. You can be a chain smoker for 20 years (and still be mostly okay as far as your lungs are concerned), but you can't be a gambling addict for the same amount of time unless someone else manages your finances (read, you can't waste all your money within a year or so)

And addiction, and especially a gambling variety of it, is not something you can just stop or give up since otherwise it wouldn't be an addiction. This is true for both smoking and gambling, but unlike the latter the former doesn't change your personality. No matter how much you smoke, you remain the same person. This is not the case with gambling as it does change your whole character and personality (and not for the better)

Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on October 31, 2019, 06:58:05 PM

One thing I noticed is when you are a cigar addict, more likely you are also a heavy drinker. I have not met a person who smokes a lot but a non-drinker. Both of this goes well together with playing cards with friends at home

I know a lot of chain smokers who are not heavy drinkers (or just habitual drinkers, for the record)

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Quote from: wildan88 on October 29, 2019, 07:38:58 AM

Gambling is worse, although there is a chance to get money, but the risk of losing money will be more. addicted to cigarettes for me it's a sensation to feel something.
but of course for health, it is not good, but in the end, everyone will die without or smoking.

But for smoking itself is actually not as bad as gambling. When we addicted to gambling, anything can be sold to be able to play the game. and for cigarettes themselves in terms of prices are also cheap. even for my country cigarette excise accounts for a large portion of the state budget. isn't this very helpful? but gambling is still prohibited and also the risk is quite large. people get poor quickly

In some points, smoking is not as bad as gambling but both of them are bad and they can affect anyone's lives.

If you are addicted into gambling, yep anything can be sold and be done to play the game but you can prevent it with the help of other people or relatives. You can say that cigarettes are cheap but the effects of it into our body are far worse compare to gambling addiction. Even in our country, cigarette prices doubled in the last 1-2 years I think and it can increase more in the next years which can help those who are addicted into cigarettes because they can't afford it anymore or maybe they can but they will lessen it because of lack of funds to buy.

It might hard for other addicted smokers to afford the increasing price of cigar but again if you really want to smoke there's a way to be able to buy it, not different to gambling addiction. I think the difference is, in cigar addiction the worst that can happen to you is death you're the one who will pay the price, while in gambling not just your life will be put at risk but also your family because gambling can ruin your family's life if you sold your house and other assets to sustain your addiction.

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Well, it is always the gambling addiction which is worse.

Let's compare.

A cigar is harmful for health. Gambling is harmful for health (both physical and mental).

Cigar helps to relieve tensions and depression. Gambling might increase or decrease stress based on if you win or lose.

Cigar benefits last long. Gambling benefits last short as one quickly loses their money if they play long.

Cigar harms can be cured with money by buying medicine. Gambling harms can't be treated with money as the patient will not have any money left after gambling lmao Cheesy

Although both addictions are bad and I recommend to stay away from both of them, gambling is the more evil.

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If I am in a place where I can choose between cigar addiction or gambling addiction I will pick cigar addiction because in cigarettes It helps me to release my stress or relieved my stress in order to think well although I may get some sick or lung cancer I will go here because this may help me to think and relax, while gambling is you can have a possibility to gain and win a huge amount of money but there is no guaranteed that you can really won or maybe you can lose a huge amount of money because of addiction and greediness.

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Quote from: Vispilio on October 31, 2019, 08:51:29 PM

While addiction by itself is bad enough as it indicates a serious weakness in willpower and character,

if one had to pick one of these gambling would be the safer bet. You can stick with games that give you a statistical edge in the short run through various promotions or playing against other players and even make your gambling experience a net positive sometimes or even overall,

while the negatives are a practically inevitable part of the game if you are into smoking cigars...

If we are to look for the worst cigar and gambling addicts in the world and assess their impact, I guess the worst gambling addicts are the ones who caused more misery, trouble, and destruction than the cigar addicts. An addiction to cigar will cause cancer or even death. An addiction to gambling, on the other hand, will cause houses, cars, appliances, lands, and other properties to get pawned or even sold. Moreover, an addiction to gambling might cause robbery, murder, and other crimes. Cigar addiction will not cause all these.

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Quote from: wildan88 on October 29, 2019, 07:38:58 AM

Gambling is worse, although there is a chance to get money, but the risk of losing money will be more. addicted to cigarettes for me it's a sensation to feel something.
but of course for health, it is not good, but in the end, everyone will die without or smoking.

Smoking is something common in this world even if they know it is harmful for our health but gambling doesn't cause any health related issue other than mentally ill still people portraying it as bad thing we doing.Both are bad and which one is worse is subjective from each personal life style and where they are from and what religion they belong too.

Lol gamblers that addicted turns worst than smoking,there are some of them who jumped in the window of high rise building and some even burned the casino with how many casualties,so both can bring death and there’s no exemptions if we turns addicted

But yeah it’s better to gamble than to smoke.because gambling is easy to heal than smoking

I know that news of an addicted gambler who burned the casino where he used to play because he lose lots of money so its his way to get revenge.

Well both addiction can harm us in different way, but we can stop it if we are willing to change. One thing is for sure every addiction has its bad sides and not good for us.

Well you're right about that i didnt think that a person can do something like that because of addiction, that's why i think everything with addiction word in it is dangerous and will only give bad effects both itself or to others. I also know someone that because he can't control itself from gambling he bet he's own house just to play again because he thinks that he will win the next time he plays but that didnt happen in the end he regret he's action, and also i think alongside gambling addiction is cigarette addiction also.

yes addiction in any thing is bad because it badly affect people and their loved ones, as you quoted about the person that bet his house, he not only risked himself but also he deprived his family from a house, addiction in gambling is worst for all.
Addiction of cigar is is the risk of life as everybody knows that smoking causes cancer and also smoking is unfriendly to the environment as it cause global warming by polluting the environment.

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Quote from: deisik on October 31, 2019, 08:23:31 AM

Quote from: airdnasxela on October 31, 2019, 08:17:14 AM

And with gambling, it might not affect us physically, but it can financially. We can say that one is much worse depending on the effect it brought to a certain person's life. Smoking can lead to sickness while gambling can lead to loss

That actually remains to be seen

The harsh truth is, gambling does affect us physically. Indeed, it is unlikely to cause lung cancer (though who knows, especially if you are a chain smoker, and partly or fully due to your gambling habits). But it still affects our mental health, and the negative consequences can be far worse than from cigars or smoking in general. People don't commit suicides because of smoking but they do because of gambling, apart from a host of other severe problems that literally destroy human lives in the most physiological sense of the word

There is no doubt in it that gambling damages health of a gambler in its own particular way. Though the player will never get a direct hit which he can sense over his skin, but he will be facing mind troubles. Gambling lays a huge pressure on one’s brain. The loss of money is a big stress. It is not shocking to see gamblers taking their own lives due to their disturbed mental health. Gambling is dangerous indeed.

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While addiction by itself is bad enough as it indicates a serious weakness in willpower and character,

if one had to pick one of these gambling would be the safer bet. You can stick with games that give you a statistical edge in the short run through various promotions or playing against other players and even make your gambling experience a net positive sometimes or even overall,

while the negatives are a practically inevitable part of the game if you are into smoking cigars...

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Every kind of addiction is bad for health and your finances
Everyone know the bad thing cigars do to health, and they are expensive

With addiction in gambling people can lost more than paper money, there's a stage where people gamble their cars, gold, or even their houses, and there's another problems, because people tends to be anxious, depressed, sad and a lot of more things

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Cigar addiction is worse, why? Even if you stop smoking, your lungs is already damaged. You cant get a new pair of lungs from any store and have yours replaced. There are even times when you stop smoking, you will feel different and try to smoke again. Unlike gambling addiction, if you stop, you work again and you. can still recover all the money you lost.

One thing I noticed is when you are a cigar addict, more likely you are also a heavy drinker. I have not met a person who smokes a lot but a non-drinker. Both of this goes well together with playing cards with friends at home.

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Quote from: airdnasxela on October 31, 2019, 08:17:14 AM

And with gambling, it might not affect us physically, but it can financially. We can say that one is much worse depending on the effect it brought to a certain person's life. Smoking can lead to sickness while gambling can lead to loss

That actually remains to be seen

The harsh truth is, gambling does affect us physically. Indeed, it is unlikely to cause lung cancer (though who knows, especially if you are a chain smoker, and partly or fully due to your gambling habits). But it still affects our mental health, and the negative consequences can be far worse than from cigars or smoking in general. People don't commit suicides because of smoking but they do because of gambling, apart from a host of other severe problems that literally destroy human lives in the most physiological sense of the word

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Both can be worse, the level of addiction is what matters. Because at the end of the day, it's still addiction. Addiction was never healthy mentally. But with cigarette, not only our mental states that are only being affected but our physical health as well. It is slowly killing us. And with gambling, it might not affect us physically, but it can financially.
We can say that one is much worse depending on the effect it brought to a certain person's life. Smoking can lead to sickness while gambling can lead to loss.

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Quote from: wildan88 on October 29, 2019, 07:38:58 AM

Gambling is worse, although there is a chance to get money, but the risk of losing money will be more. addicted to cigarettes for me it's a sensation to feel something.
but of course for health, it is not good, but in the end, everyone will die without or smoking.

Smoking is something common in this world even if they know it is harmful for our health but gambling doesn't cause any health related issue other than mentally ill still people portraying it as bad thing we doing.Both are bad and which one is worse is subjective from each personal life style and where they are from and what religion they belong too.

Lol gamblers that addicted turns worst than smoking,there are some of them who jumped in the window of high rise building and some even burned the casino with how many casualties,so both can bring death and there’s no exemptions if we turns addicted

But yeah it’s better to gamble than to smoke.because gambling is easy to heal than smoking

Nothing is easier and nothing is harder,everything is dependent on the people who addicted to it,we may even read people who commit suicide for not having cigars to smoke at particular time so this shows how intensely people can addicted to smoking also the same thing can happen to gambling but in other way which is financial instability in someone;s life can cause them to commit suicide.

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