What's worse: cigar addiction or gambling addiction - page 9.

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Quote from: DoublerHunter on October 25, 2019, 09:02:34 AM

Quote from: hopenotlate on October 25, 2019, 08:48:35 AM

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But there is another addiction I struggle to manage: crypto addiction. I can't stand a day without checking prices, news and this forum as well. Might it become harmful in your opinions?

^ You are not alone here, every one of us is in crypto addicted not just only by gambling. Yes, might it harmful to us if we follow our emotions when we see the price drop and do panic selling. Nevertheless, I will not tolerate my self to become addict to those both addiction gambling and cigarette addictions. Always put in our mind the probable cause and the consequences that may happen. Be responsible enough at your self and you should know your limitations.

Crypto addiction sometimes actually brings dangers when we are putting us too much pressure, if not relieved, our health will decline under that but if managed properly, our income will be higher and we will have less time for bad activities like smoking or gambling, but leaving our addiction to crypto, gambling addiction and cigar addiction are more dangerous than ever. I also can hardly say what is worse when one can kill us slowly and one can kill us in a short time, smoking is death in the distant future and gambling is death in the near future

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Quote from: hopenotlate on October 25, 2019, 08:48:35 AM

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But there is another addiction I struggle to manage: crypto addiction. I can't stand a day without checking prices, news and this forum as well. Might it become harmful in your opinions?

^ You are not alone here, every one of us is in crypto addicted not just only by gambling. Yes, might it harmful to us if we follow our emotions when we see the price drop and do panic selling. Nevertheless, I will not tolerate my self to become addict to those both addiction gambling and cigarette addictions. Always put in our mind the probable cause and the consequences that may happen. Be responsible enough at your self and you should know your limitations.

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I either smoke from time to time and not on a regular basis, also gamble a bit but am just a recreational: so I can state that, until now at least, am able to manage the two addictions mentioned in OP.
But there is another addiction I struggle to manage: crypto addiction. I can't stand a day without checking prices, news and this forum as well. Might it become harmful in your opinions?

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Quote from: dobolspeed3 on October 25, 2019, 01:07:50 AM

What is definitely addictive gambling is very dangerous. Because for the sake of gambling anything can be done, for example borrowing money from others for gambling. This is dangerous for me, and the more dangerous is stealing for gambling.

lol what about cigarettes smoking?it doesn’t dangerous?when your lungs and body is the main target?

Maybe you are a smoker that’s why you need to choose between the two,why not just do it both or stop together?

Vices is indeed giving us happening but this also killing us that we don’t give a glimpse

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Quote from: abel1337 on October 25, 2019, 02:04:51 AM

Sharing my experience tho..

Iv’e been addicted on both cigar and gambling on the same time, Both of these vices started with simply some stress that I want to reduce Undecided

After sometime it becomes my hobby that turns into addiction. After weeks of being stress I’ve noticed that I am being dependent with these two vices that it becomes my daily routine.

A simple problem blooms into another problem, After realizing that Iv’e been dependent to this vices. So I decided to stop this vices, Tried it on a slow procees. I tried switching to vape and It’s a successful switch. I also tried to stop playing gambling and It is more difficult than I am thinking before, I tried not playing slowly day by day. It feels so hard.

Heres the conclusion. In the end I can’t stop playing gambling , I just reduce the addiction level. Its really hard for me Cry

Though the cigar addiction were completely gone because of vaping. I found the satisfaction on vaping. I think I can’t find other things that can make me completely satisfied than gambling.

People would normally stuck up into things which do gives out contentment in terms of entertainment which gambling would able to give.When it comes to cigar addiction, yes it can be replaced by vape but there were still some person who arent able to do that.It would all depend if their body would like it or not so in your case it turns out to be successful then its good for you since we do know the health issues or status between cigar and vape.For gambling addiction then this one is the hardest thing to get rid off because even up to this year,majority of gamblers doesnt able to seek another replacement when it comes to entertainment.

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Quote from: mich on October 23, 2019, 09:14:38 PM

My vote is that cigar addiction is worse then gambling addiction
I know people personally in real life who have got lung cancer from smoking and the same cant be said for people I know who gamble
They are both addictions which can lead you to suffer in life but cigar addiction is worse for cancer alone

And not only you who will suffer but your family too, both addictions are not good for us if you can prevent yourself from getting addicted then do it or better don’t enter into gambling or don’t try cigar to avoid addiction all together. In my opinion, I can’t choose one for the reason that both addictions can make a person miserable.

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Both addiction can be hurting and in one way on the another and at the end it makes the person suffering damaged. The different between them is that one is causing a physical damage while the other is causing an internal damage.
Another thing is to examine their effects/long time effects. For me, if you ask me, i think internal damage is more crucial than the physical damage.
Gambling addiction can be removed or stopped through therapies and self-will but cigar addition can led to lung cancer. Unfortunately, not much can be done to resolve it.

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Quote from: Viscore on October 25, 2019, 02:24:15 AM

You will loss a lot of money if you are addicted in gambling, that is obviously worse than cigar addiction because money can change everything and it will result to worse if you loss more than you can afford to lose. ..

These two dependencies have different damage. Cigar addiction harms your health, and gambling addiction empties your pockets. But I must admit that they are both harmful to you.

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You will loss a lot of money if you are addicted in gambling, that is obviously worse than cigar addiction because money can change everything and it will result to worse if you loss more than you can afford to lose.

When it comes to gambling, we need to be smart and that is by learning how to control our emotion, when you get addicted that means we are not playing smart as we allow our emotion to dictate our brain, that's the opposite of what should happen.

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Quote from: Maotezi on October 23, 2019, 03:59:27 PM

I know this topic was, but I'm interested in explaining why you would compare these two things that have only one thing in common, addiction. Why compare them if they are two different terms.
Eg for cigars we give money and have no profit, while for gambling we give money and there is a possibility of getting money. In the world, these two topics are crucial, but why Huh

Whether the addiction is a mental deficiency or simply as a love for something?
When someone loves a sport is he or she addicted?

The only moot point here is both can be define as addiction. But to choose the lesser evil between the 2? I would choose smoking easy.

Been smoking for many years now and up to know I can't really quit it. But there are times in my gambling addiction that I can stop it right away, days, months, or even years. But giving up smoking takes a lot of mental discipline and you can't just go wake up tomorrow and say I'd stop.

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Quote from: harizen on October 23, 2019, 07:32:49 PM

Yes, I do agree with you that both topics require a serious approach.

However, that comparison isn't making sense since as you said they have different terms. It should be discussed differently and separately, on other topics and not as direct discussion comparing the addiction between gambling and cigar.

The source or reasons for being addicted to those two things depend on different factors since they have a different environment.

But the bottom line is, whatever everyone got addicted to, our mind plays a big role here e.g because of interest, desires, comfortability, eagerness to something, etc.

Gambling addiction at the worst possibility causing people suicide once the person hits by the huge loss > feeling blue > can't handle the extreme deficit.

Cigar addiction at the worst possibility causing death due it's clearly contains toxic hazardous chemicals shit.

Can't imagine those people who smoking and walk in to Las Vegas casino everyday Grin

. They are living between two deadly things lol . There's intercorrelation between , the one harm your mental health and the other harm your physical health. To cure from any kind addiction is simply by reducing the frequency doing that and keep in mind that it takes a long long time, a long journey with patience required ...

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Quote from: EastSound on October 23, 2019, 07:45:32 PM

Gambling is a worst addiction people might end up going broke and poor or commiting suicide while for cigar addiction i didnt heard any story that people end up poor cause of smoking too much cigar.

Same goes with cigar addiction, cigars in our place are quite expensive but a lot of people are still buying it and it can make you broke just buying cigar and if you’ll get sick not only you will be broke but also your family and also it is also like a suicide because we all know having cigar addiction can give you diseases so for me, it is better to stop both.

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Quote from: Maotezi on October 23, 2019, 03:59:27 PM

I know this topic was, but I'm interested in explaining why you would compare these two things that have only one thing in common, addiction. Why compare them if they are two different terms.
Eg for cigars we give money and have no profit, while for gambling we give money and there is a possibility of getting money. In the world, these two topics are crucial, but why Huh

Whether the addiction is a mental deficiency or simply as a love for something?
When someone loves a sport is he or she addicted?

I'll tell you a little about my history of years ago. Over 10 years ago I started playing video games. I played a lot of super mario bros, mortal kombat, super tank Nes and many other kids games (I say kids because the graphics were so bad and they were old games that I played when I it was smaller), the case is that a lot of people called me a game addict, then I switched to computer gaming and people increased their evil comments about me. I didn't care if people called me a game addict or No. My point is:

when can a person be considered addicted?

In my case I played 6 hours a day, but I did my things away from home and I had many days I had no time and so I didn't play.

I also started placing sports bets on the sportsbet.io website and I confess that I liked it, always liked soccer games. But my question remains:

When can we consider that a person is addicted to games?

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Quote from: Ejanend on October 25, 2019, 05:47:37 AM

Quote from: BChydro on October 24, 2019, 11:23:03 AM

Quote from: Maotezi on October 23, 2019, 03:59:27 PM

Whether the addiction is a mental deficiency or simply as a love for something?
When someone loves a sport is he or she addicted?

If you feel that you are addicted to something then it is better to consult a doctor as you need help, i cannot authoritatively say that it is a mental deficiency but the fact is that all the addicts will not find out whether they are impulsive or not and only a third person can judge your actions but if you understand that something is not normal then it is well and good. I do smoke and it is hard for me to stop completely but gambling i have my control.

Addiction of any sort is not good for a person. Excess of everything can cause restlessness in human behavior. Though I don't think that all sort of addictions require some treatment but those which are eventually harmful one way or the other should not be ignored. If you smoke then it is not possible to stop instantly. Everything takes time. First you need to smoke less and then eventually get rid of it.

they say stopping ciggarite instanly is bad can cause mental issues . this is why others are doing it slowly . same can also be applied when we are already addicted on gambling . we should less the amount of crypto that we use and we should lessen also the time that we burn inside the gambling arena and so on . they day will come that we will notice that we are not addicted anymore . cigar or gambling both should be done moderately to avoid further problems

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Quote from: BChydro on October 24, 2019, 11:23:03 AM

Quote from: Maotezi on October 23, 2019, 03:59:27 PM

Whether the addiction is a mental deficiency or simply as a love for something?
When someone loves a sport is he or she addicted?

If you feel that you are addicted to something then it is better to consult a doctor as you need help, i cannot authoritatively say that it is a mental deficiency but the fact is that all the addicts will not find out whether they are impulsive or not and only a third person can judge your actions but if you understand that something is not normal then it is well and good. I do smoke and it is hard for me to stop completely but gambling i have my control.

Addiction of any sort is not good for a person. Excess of everything can cause restlessness in human behavior. Though I don't think that all sort of addictions require some treatment but those which are eventually harmful one way or the other should not be ignored. If you smoke then it is not possible to stop instantly. Everything takes time. First you need to smoke less and then eventually get rid of it.

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Quote from: Maotezi on October 23, 2019, 03:59:27 PM

I know this topic was, but I'm interested in explaining why you would compare these two things that have only one thing in common, addiction. Why compare them if they are two different terms.
Eg for cigars we give money and have no profit, while for gambling we give money and there is a possibility of getting money. In the world, these two topics are crucial, but why Huh

Whether the addiction is a mental deficiency or simply as a love for something?
When someone loves a sport is he or she addicted?

Smoking cigar may give a relaxation to those who are smoker, so it can be considered as a profit for them. I believe smoker wont agree with the statement that there is no profit of smoking. For me, I cant compare both as they are not apple to apple comparison as they are completely different. The main important thing here is that addiction is not good, no matter what you are addicted to. Even coffee addiction is not good as well for your health.

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When it's called addiction, that will be not good for your life. We know that cigar and gambling addiction are very dangerous for our life, and both have the same serious problem for every people who have that addiction. I only think that we need to reduce the addiction when we still have a chance and get a way to solve the problem because if we are in deeply of the addiction, we will have a big problem for our health and our money. I won't say which one will be the worst because both will be dangerous for us.

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Sharing my experience tho..

Iv’e been addicted on both cigar and gambling on the same time, Both of these vices started with simply some stress that I want to reduce Undecided

After sometime it becomes my hobby that turns into addiction. After weeks of being stress I’ve noticed that I am being dependent with these two vices that it becomes my daily routine.

A simple problem blooms into another problem, After realizing that Iv’e been dependent to this vices. So I decided to stop this vices, Tried it on a slow procees. I tried switching to vape and It’s a successful switch. I also tried to stop playing gambling and It is more difficult than I am thinking before, I tried not playing slowly day by day. It feels so hard.

Heres the conclusion. In the end I can’t stop playing gambling , I just reduce the addiction level. Its really hard for me Cry

Though the cigar addiction were completely gone because of vaping. I found the satisfaction on vaping. I think I can’t find other things that can make me completely satisfied than gambling.

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Quote from: Eugenar on October 25, 2019, 01:20:02 AM

Quote from: dimonstration on October 23, 2019, 08:59:54 PM

Both worse, both can ruin one's life and family relationships. Once addiction happen in any circumstances it will affect your system and everyone around us, not just financially, socially and more in our health. Both affects our health, cigar can cause death easily same with addiction in gambling due to too much stress and not sleeping since scared of missing out the chance to play, to bet or roll the dice. As much as we can don't ever entertain addiction in our life.

In my opinion not both of it can induce negative effects to users. I see cigarette addiction is the only thing harmful. Basically in gambling, it will give us chances for positive outcome in life. But in cigarette, it will just lessen our time to live. Addiction to gambling sometimes give us a hint on how the platform woks that's why we tend to play and win.

For any type of addiction is dangerous cigar could effect the person life. But in gambling and especaiily being addictive gambling it not only spoil your life but of others as well. Beacuse unless you are lucky you win the amount else you would just keep losing and may lose your savings, house, relationships, devt taken from friends and family and not able to return and effceting thier lives as well etc.

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Quote from: Maotezi on October 23, 2019, 03:59:27 PM

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There is no addicton that is good (probably getting addicted to become a successful one) so those 2 kinds of addictions that you said will just give bad effects to the person.

If you addicted to gambling, it can cause you money and your money can be like magic that will be gone in an instant although it can give you some fun it will cost you money. In cigar addiction, it will cause you health problems and also money.

If I will choose between one of them, cigar addiction is worse because I had ask some of our neighbors who are consuming cigars daily and they said that "They are finding it everyday and their day will not be good if they don't consume cigars". In gambling, you can stop anytime you want as long as you can control yourself but in cigar once you got addicted into it your body will always find it.

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