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Quote from: dobolspeed3 on October 25, 2019, 12:15:52 PM

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Quote from: dobolspeed3 on October 25, 2019, 01:07:50 AM

What is definitely addictive gambling is very dangerous. Because for the sake of gambling anything can be done, for example borrowing money from others for gambling. This is dangerous for me, and the more dangerous is stealing for gambling.

lol what about cigarettes smoking?it doesn’t dangerous?when your lungs and body is the main target?

Maybe you are a smoker that’s why you need to choose between the two,why not just do it both or stop together?

Vices is indeed giving us happening but this also killing us that we don’t give a glimpse

Smoking is indeed dangerous, and all smokers know that. Do they stop after knowing that cigarettes are dangerous? No, they still do it, including me.
Addiction can not be stopped just like gambling or cigarettes, because it is this addiction that makes it unable to stop with words. So just enjoy it while you are still able to do it.

so that means you will stop when you already cant?like for example when your lying in bed with lung cancer?or living on the street because of bankruptcy and having too much debt that you cannot afford to pay?when you are starving and and begging to have some food?
we are human and we are more brighter than animals mate,why need to choose to live like them when we can just enjoy life without those hassles?
dont accept being addict like that instead look for the better option to enjoy life without making more mistakes.limit your self and dont become addict

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Quote from: radjie on October 25, 2019, 04:58:01 PM

Quote from: Maotezi on October 23, 2019, 03:59:27 PM

I know this topic was, but I'm interested in explaining why you would compare these two things that have only one thing in common, addiction. Why compare them if they are two different terms.
Eg for cigars we give money and have no profit, while for gambling we give money and there is a possibility of getting money. In the world, these two topics are crucial, but why Huh

Whether the addiction is a mental deficiency or simply as a love for something?
When someone loves a sport is he or she addicted?

both of these addictions can indeed be bad for us, but for people who are addicted to cigars of course they can only enjoy the sensation when issuing cigarette smoke. and of course we already know that this type of addiction is also bad for health. As with gambling addiction, someone who is addicted to gambling in any way he can do to get money, even though he is willing to sell valuables he has. because of course someone who is addicted to gambling, he plays hoping to get luck from him. . these two addictions are certainly very difficult to avoid, although the effects are different but between the two of course we have experienced it even now one of them is inherent in us and difficult to avoid.

Most of gamblers I do believe do have this both things together where they are smoking while they do gamble.Both things had effects if you

do engage or you're been addicted to it.Getting rid or totally stop from it wouldn't really be achieved on a short period of time which do need some
strong self discipline and control.

You can deal with these things but you should be aware on the things that mainly affected in long term runs.

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Quote from: Maotezi on October 23, 2019, 03:59:27 PM

I know this topic was, but I'm interested in explaining why you would compare these two things that have only one thing in common, addiction. Why compare them if they are two different terms.
Eg for cigars we give money and have no profit, while for gambling we give money and there is a possibility of getting money. In the world, these two topics are crucial, but why Huh

Whether the addiction is a mental deficiency or simply as a love for something?
When someone loves a sport is he or she addicted?

both of these addictions can indeed be bad for us, but for people who are addicted to cigars of course they can only enjoy the sensation when issuing cigarette smoke. and of course we already know that this type of addiction is also bad for health. As with gambling addiction, someone who is addicted to gambling in any way he can do to get money, even though he is willing to sell valuables he has. because of course someone who is addicted to gambling, he plays hoping to get luck from him. . these two addictions are certainly very difficult to avoid, although the effects are different but between the two of course we have experienced it even now one of them is inherent in us and difficult to avoid.

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Quote from: arifteguhr on October 25, 2019, 10:36:32 AM

For me addiction to gambling is worse than addicted to Cigars or Drugs because here we are also difficult to be able to escape from gambling. sometimes when we want to stop can not resist temptation even more so the thought of defeat that has been experienced also makes us difficult to stop playing. based on my personal experience

What do you think is the bigger problem around the world Gambling or cigarettes?
Have you watched how many people die from smoking?

Cigars - shorten life (rsik of dying)
Gambling - takes money (risk of losing everything)

He must learn deeply into this topic to invent two very difficult concepts, the conclusion cannot be simple.

Both addiction will be harmful for an individual so no one can conclude that which is more worse because it depends on the situation of people who got addicted but when see the number of people dying every year due to smoking and the cancer the number is huge so its kind of worst in my opinion.

But can the term life and money be compared?
How can money be more important to someone than life?
I think there is no mistaking that smoking is no worse than gambling.

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Well.. I have to admit that this is a very weird question. It is like asking whether you want to die after being shot by a firing squad, or by getting a lethal injection. Both are bad, and there is no real choice between the two. And there is no point in saying that one of them is less dangerous than the other, because the end result is the same for both.

In my case, I can confidently say that I am neither addicted to tobacco, nor addicted to gambling. So I may not be the best person to give an opinion on this subject. But like I said, both can be bad for you, and you can't have a preference for one over the other. This question is very tricky and the OP is trying to paint gambling addiction in a more favorable color by comparing it with something similar.

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Quote from: Maotezi on October 25, 2019, 01:34:00 PM

Quote from: arifteguhr on October 25, 2019, 10:36:32 AM

For me addiction to gambling is worse than addicted to Cigars or Drugs because here we are also difficult to be able to escape from gambling. sometimes when we want to stop can not resist temptation even more so the thought of defeat that has been experienced also makes us difficult to stop playing. based on my personal experience

What do you think is the bigger problem around the world Gambling or cigarettes?
Have you watched how many people die from smoking?

Cigars - shorten life (rsik of dying)
Gambling - takes money (risk of losing everything)

He must learn deeply into this topic to invent two very difficult concepts, the conclusion cannot be simple.

Both has almost the same effect which is addiction but the difference is that they take something from you once you lose control of yourself. I would say the worse one is the one that you can't control even though you see the reason why you got addicted but still you choose to continue. And I would say that both are dangerous in your life if not treated early or stop early.

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Quote from: arifteguhr on October 25, 2019, 10:36:32 AM

For me addiction to gambling is worse than addicted to Cigars or Drugs because here we are also difficult to be able to escape from gambling. sometimes when we want to stop can not resist temptation even more so the thought of defeat that has been experienced also makes us difficult to stop playing. based on my personal experience

What do you think is the bigger problem around the world Gambling or cigarettes?
Have you watched how many people die from smoking?

Cigars - shorten life (rsik of dying)
Gambling - takes money (risk of losing everything)

He must learn deeply into this topic to invent two very difficult concepts, the conclusion cannot be simple.

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Gambling addiction is very dangerous because it can make a lot of our property taken if we cannot control it. There have been many stories that prove where someone who became poor due to gambling. and in my opinion the right thing is we must be able to refrain from being trapped in these conditions. where gambling is just a game, don't use it to get income because it's so wrong.

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I think gambling addiction is worst than cigar addiction when it comes to financial grounds. You see, if you are a cigar addict, all you can do is just buy a cigarette and smoke all day, cigarette is cheap so anyone with a decent job can enjoy it without affecting their family budget while when you are a gambling addict, you family budget will automatically compromised because you cannot stop yourself in betting until you sold all your belongings. Worst, when stress, gambling can possibly make you develop an addiction to cigar as mean of relaxing yourself.

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Quote from: peter0425 on October 25, 2019, 08:41:11 AM

Quote from: dobolspeed3 on October 25, 2019, 01:07:50 AM

What is definitely addictive gambling is very dangerous. Because for the sake of gambling anything can be done, for example borrowing money from others for gambling. This is dangerous for me, and the more dangerous is stealing for gambling.

lol what about cigarettes smoking?it doesn’t dangerous?when your lungs and body is the main target?

Maybe you are a smoker that’s why you need to choose between the two,why not just do it both or stop together?

Vices is indeed giving us happening but this also killing us that we don’t give a glimpse

Smoking is indeed dangerous, and all smokers know that. Do they stop after knowing that cigarettes are dangerous? No, they still do it, including me.
Addiction can not be stopped just like gambling or cigarettes, because it is this addiction that makes it unable to stop with words. So just enjoy it while you are still able to do it.

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Quote from: Maotezi on October 23, 2019, 03:59:27 PM

Whether the addiction is a mental deficiency or simply as a love for something?
When someone loves a sport is he or she addicted?

Addiction is when a person starts something and then the body and mind become very needy or dependent.. mild addiction is positive but severe addiction is negative/disease.. it can be said that eating, sport, drinking, sex and sometimes gambling or other hobbies are positive addictions for the body and mind, but if done excessively (severe addiction) it will make the body and mind become bad.

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Quote from: MI6 on October 25, 2019, 10:17:08 AM

Quote from: peter0425 on October 25, 2019, 08:41:11 AM

Quote from: dobolspeed3 on October 25, 2019, 01:07:50 AM

What is definitely addictive gambling is very dangerous. Because for the sake of gambling anything can be done, for example borrowing money from others for gambling. This is dangerous for me, and the more dangerous is stealing for gambling.

lol what about cigarettes smoking?it doesn’t dangerous?when your lungs and body is the main target?

Maybe you are a smoker that’s why you need to choose between the two,why not just do it both or stop together?

Vices is indeed giving us happening but this also killing us that we don’t give a glimpse

A lot of people said that gambling is worse maybe because what to be affect for people when they get addicted. Because it can affect to other people like for example borrowing money or maybe steal money, which can make other person harmed. If smoking, maybe who already addicted can replace it with vape. But actually both is bad if we addicted. Grin

vape as far as i remember some doctors claim that it is more dangerous in our health than smoking.
but this is out of the topic when OP is just posting for two options and vape wasn't included
but for me?both is good if we know how to control our self,we can gambling once a month?and you can smoke 1-2 sticks a day.is that a good advice?

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Quote from: arifteguhr on October 25, 2019, 10:36:32 AM

For me addiction to gambling is worse than addicted to Cigars or Drugs because here we are also difficult to be able to escape from gambling. sometimes when we want to stop can not resist temptation even more so the thought of defeat that has been experienced also makes us difficult to stop playing. based on my personal experience

lol drugs not even mentioned so don’t add another vices 😂

While I almost agree on you,but the point is gambling can be controlled and may be used just for fun.but what about cigarettes?is the really for fun when your lungs is slowly dying?and your life will soon becomes miserable when you lay because of sickness?then who will suffer? Your family?

Why not just gamble a little and stop smoking?why not use the amount usually allot for smoking to use playing in gambling?if luck turns to you for sure,your life will change

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For me addiction to gambling is worse than addicted to Cigars or Drugs because here we are also difficult to be able to escape from gambling. sometimes when we want to stop can not resist temptation even more so the thought of defeat that has been experienced also makes us difficult to stop playing. based on my personal experience

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Quote from: peter0425 on October 25, 2019, 08:41:11 AM

Quote from: dobolspeed3 on October 25, 2019, 01:07:50 AM

What is definitely addictive gambling is very dangerous. Because for the sake of gambling anything can be done, for example borrowing money from others for gambling. This is dangerous for me, and the more dangerous is stealing for gambling.

lol what about cigarettes smoking?it doesn’t dangerous?when your lungs and body is the main target?

Maybe you are a smoker that’s why you need to choose between the two,why not just do it both or stop together?

Vices is indeed giving us happening but this also killing us that we don’t give a glimpse

A lot of people said that gambling is worse maybe because what to be affect for people when they get addicted. Because it can affect to other people like for example borrowing money or maybe steal money, which can make other person harmed. If smoking, maybe who already addicted can replace it with vape. But actually both is bad if we addicted. Grin

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Quote from: SquallLeonhart on October 25, 2019, 10:03:01 AM

Quote from: target on October 23, 2019, 04:12:19 PM

Seriously, both addiction is hard to stop and both are worse. I'm a smoker myself that even now that I have a family of my own, I will still sneak out when all are asleep just to have a cigarette break. I'm not losing a ton of money when I smoke though.

Smoking is injurious to your health whereas gambling is injurious to your wealth. I agree that you will not be losing tons of money when you are smoking but I believe your life is worth more than thousands of tons of money. I'm not sure about your awareness about your health because without being healthy you cannot earn any money so tons of money is nothing when comparing against your heath.

Quote from: Maotezi on October 23, 2019, 03:59:27 PM

Whether the addiction is a mental deficiency or simply as a love for something?

Definitely addiction must be a mental illness. This is how a psychological approach is being handled always. Addiction can happen for anything because human nature is always vulnerable to get addicted when loving anything too much; a love may become an addiction over the time.

I like that statement. Even if you have all the money in the world, if your health is degrading, that money can't buy what you just lost with your body.

But honestly, reading this thread can give you different perspectives from varying personalities from all over the world. You can gain a lot of insights and let's admit it with ourselves, what you will choose in life is your own responsibility, no one else will.

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Quote from: target on October 23, 2019, 04:12:19 PM

Seriously, both addiction is hard to stop and both are worse. I'm a smoker myself that even now that I have a family of my own, I will still sneak out when all are asleep just to have a cigarette break. I'm not losing a ton of money when I smoke though.

Smoking is injurious to your health whereas gambling is injurious to your wealth. I agree that you will not be losing tons of money when you are smoking but I believe your life is worth more than thousands of tons of money. I'm not sure about your awareness about your health because without being healthy you cannot earn any money so tons of money is nothing when comparing against your heath.

Quote from: Maotezi on October 23, 2019, 03:59:27 PM

Whether the addiction is a mental deficiency or simply as a love for something?

Definitely addiction must be a mental illness. This is how a psychological approach is being handled always. Addiction can happen for anything because human nature is always vulnerable to get addicted when loving anything too much; a love may become an addiction over the time.

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The so-called Addiction is definitely bad. Whether it's addicted to cigarettes (cigar), gambling addiction, crypto addiction or other addictions. All these addictions must be very dangerous, depending on what you are addicted to. For example smoking addiction, it is dangerous for health, addiction to gambling is dangerous for your finances unless you always win in gambling.

So all these addictions are dangerous!

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Well, the funny thing is that gambling addicts tend to also be heavy smokers. Smoking is used to calm nerves in stressful situations, which is something that heavy gamblers find themselves in a lot.

Personally, I would say that gambling addiction has the potential to ruin your life very quickly. One seriously wrong move can send victims into a lifetime of crippling debt that they might never climb out of.

Cigars on the otherhand are damaging to the health (and can hit the wallet hard), but are unlikely to have any noticeable effects in the short term.

Either way, both are bad, but it's double bad if you're a double addict!

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Quote from: hopenotlate on October 25, 2019, 08:48:35 AM

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But there is another addiction I struggle to manage: crypto addiction. I can't stand a day without checking prices, news and this forum as well. Might it become harmful in your opinions?

^ You are not alone here, every one of us is in crypto addicted not just only by gambling. Yes, might it harmful to us if we follow our emotions when we see the price drop and do panic selling. Nevertheless, I will not tolerate my self to become addict to those both addiction gambling and cigarette addictions. Always put in our mind the probable cause and the consequences that may happen. Be responsible enough at your self and you should know your limitations.

Crypto addiction sometimes actually brings dangers when we are putting us too much pressure, if not relieved, our health will decline under that but if managed properly, our income will be higher and we will have less time for bad activities like smoking or gambling, but leaving our addiction to crypto, gambling addiction and cigar addiction are more dangerous than ever. I also can hardly say what is worse when one can kill us slowly and one can kill us in a short time, smoking is death in the distant future and gambling is death in the near future

Anything that is called addiction is bad because it will make us put too much time and attention to a certain activity that will result to a less balance lifestyle. We are talking of the worse addiction here and I would like to put crypto addiction in the last since it could be like a passion for us here that we really love crypto since we are also getting something in return, which is the benefits of being a crypto enthusiast.

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