Topic: What's wrong with eating meat? - page 4. (Read 30304 times)
Makes me want to diet, and start juicing like that one guy who lost 40-100lbs.
Why not man? Shouldn't they just be about dead with all kinds of diseases that meat magically creates? Like bro, I thought for sure I would be able to find at least some sort of evidence of disease. What's up with that? What wizardly conclusion can you come up with to explain that?
I also didn't like the China Study by Campbell because he has an apparent agenda. He wasn't presenting the facts as is, he was presenting with intent to sway the read to non-meat lifestyle. It was so apparent from the beginning of the book.
Weston Price at least wrote his book like a journal and not so much with an agenda. It was just a record of his findings, that's all.
Ethics aside, because that's it's own debate, you've made no good points for veganism. Of the vegans I knew, they were very unhealthy and seemed cognitively slow, yet very adamant about their position on veganism.
You only managed to post some voodoo books about "cure your life problems with a vegan diet!" and "cure cancer with veganism! yeah! it's totally the best option out there", type bullshit.
I can start posting links to anthropological evidence that humans have been eating meat for thousands if not hundreds of thousands of years, if you want that. It's very clear and most modern scientist will say humans are omnivores.
I also didn't like the China Study by Campbell because he has an apparent agenda. He wasn't presenting the facts as is, he was presenting with intent to sway the read to non-meat lifestyle. It was so apparent from the beginning of the book.
Weston Price at least wrote his book like a journal and not so much with an agenda. It was just a record of his findings, that's all.
Ethics aside, because that's it's own debate, you've made no good points for veganism. Of the vegans I knew, they were very unhealthy and seemed cognitively slow, yet very adamant about their position on veganism.
You only managed to post some voodoo books about "cure your life problems with a vegan diet!" and "cure cancer with veganism! yeah! it's totally the best option out there", type bullshit.
I can start posting links to anthropological evidence that humans have been eating meat for thousands if not hundreds of thousands of years, if you want that. It's very clear and most modern scientist will say humans are omnivores.
Listen to this Podcast by Rich Roll, it's an interview with T. Colin Campbell:
http://www.richroll.com/podcast/rrp-79-t-colin-campbell-china-study-critics-plant-based-nutrition-prevent-reverse-disease/
I listened to it today while taking a jog/walk for 3 hours. I came back home around 20 minutes ago ago, I still have full energy even after running for so long. I hated running before but I can't stop now, it's so hard to stop moving when you have so much energy. No joke. It's RIDICULOUS. IT'S UNBELIEVABLE. If you think I'm lying by the way, I literally feel like standing up, going outside right now, and running again, despite me being sweaty already, that's what I feel like doing. I never felt SO ALIVE.
So anyway here are some facts from the podcast, it covers the 'debunkers' and his life history too by the way which is why I recommend downloading it and listening to it while walking or jogging or whatever:
Campbell was raised in a dairy farm. He got a full ride scholarship to go through Cornell University and got a PhD studying biochemistry, nutrition, and microbiology. Full ride all the way through to get his PhD at a top rated Ivy League University studying advanced and diverse scientific topics. Let me know how he can be debunked by a 20 year old English major blogger by the way who has no study of science.
He has over 300+ publications, PEER REVIEWED by other scientists and doctors who spent their entire lives studying science, and he eventually became head honcho of Cornell University, holding a senior position and receiving an endowed chair, the HIGHEST academic award and honor of a university.
He even admits that while performing the China Study, he was looking for things that REFUTE that animal foods caused cancer. He was completely biased in that direction, he didn't like the idea that animal meat products were bad, but that's exactly what his research showed. PEER REVIEWED. Again let me know how an English major 20 year old blogger debunked him but none of his peers who studied science their entire lives could.
You got caffeine to stay awake, you got pills to go to sleep, you got pills to lose weight, pills to have sex, pills to stop pain, pills to calm down, ignore the side effects, ignore a diet cure, and keep eating your meat and taking your pills.
Again, check out the video on my signature, "best way to prevent death" if you want to learn more about the SCIENCE behind a plant based diet, how it combats heart disease, cancer, diabetes, etc, and how it can help you unlock your true potential in your life. Give it a try, if it doesn't work, whatever, I still applaud you for your efforts in becoming more open minded.
Best way to save the planet is through personal responsibility.
I can understand why people used to eat animals. Finding food was harder, and vitamin supplements weren't around. But today, converting to a non meat diet is affordable for most Americans. Most of us today eat meat because it tastes good and we don't want to give it up.
that is my feeling as well. i grew up eating meat twice a day, and that's what our culture told me to do. i'm glad that there is some movement away from this. i have not cut out meat entirely, but i now substitute with other forms of protein in many cases.
soy = eating human in my mind. think about it. but it a non-scientific psychoactive way (LSD-25). -Alexander Shulgin
I can understand why people used to eat animals. Finding food was harder, and vitamin supplements weren't around. But today, converting to a non meat diet is affordable for most Americans. Most of us today eat meat because it tastes good and we don't want to give it up.
My experience has been that every vegan I've ever met either has a vagina, or is one. They also tend to be Marxists, for some reason.
Yep, mine too. The men look like they're lacking in testosterone and act all girly.
Also, Coingeneral, does it even make sense to call humans herbivores and say, "yeah meat causes cancer and diabetes". But for some reason this cancer and diabetes sometimes takes 50, 60, 70 years to set in. Then all the vegans are like, "HA, see! that's because of meat! Humans are herbivores. Just because it took 50+ years for the cancer to set in doesn't meat we're omnivores, duh."
My experience has been that every vegan I've ever met either has a vagina, or is one. They also tend to be Marxists, for some reason.
There is nothing wrong with eating meat.We have the digestive tracts of omnivores hence meat has been part of our diet since creation
You can't live without eat meat. You need proteins, if you don't eat meat you can't be healthy.
I have a friend who is vegan, he is very healthy and gets his proteins from other sources. You don't necessarily need meat to be healthy - in fact you could argue that eating too much meat, along with the sauces etc that come with it makes you worse off.
I couldn't live the vegan, or even the vegetarian lifestyle, but props to those that have the patience and organisation to do so, providing that they don't bitch at you for eating meat, that is.
Yeah actually its nothing wrong with eating meat.It has to be in some limits to avoid health risk when you are aged.But for young people nothing to worry.
i dont think there is anything wrong with eating meat,being a vegan or vegeterian is a lifestyle therefore not each and everyone can be suited for that lifestyle!we all live in different parts of the world and our diet is heavily involved in sustaining our humanity!if the vegan lifestyle suits you and has made you better then congrats,not everyone is suited for this lifestyle.
There’s something primal and wholly satisfying about tearing meat from bone with your fingers and teeth.
If you use a knife and fork to eat ribs, we can't be friends.
Laughing with your dinner partners, you wipe saucy residue from you lips and cheeks. It’s a delicious bonding experience.
I will never give that up.
If you use a knife and fork to eat ribs, we can't be friends.
Laughing with your dinner partners, you wipe saucy residue from you lips and cheeks. It’s a delicious bonding experience.
I will never give that up.
Meat made us what we are today. Meat make human brains grow bigger. Meat make us evolve into an intelligent being. Debate is not is needed. There is nothing wrong with eating meat.
You're a complete waste of my time. Done with this debate. You are, by far, one of the most horrible debaters I've ever had the displeasure of meeting. You totally lack the ability to respond directly to a point and instead need to resort to making up other people's arguments for them, and then insult them to death by assuming they're too stupid not to notice. As a result, this entire thread is a transcript of you arguing against yourself and the countless counterpositions that you fabricate. Congrats, you're crazy.
So I'm one of the 'most horrible' but not the most horrible debater you've ever met. Who is that?
The Joint, like I said, let me know what I'm doing wrong. If I am so wrong you should be able to refute my points easily. You want to give me a guide on debating so I can follow your guidelines? You want me to stop posting pictures when debating against you? We can start from the beginning, you give me a guideline to follow, and you start off the debate, I'll follow the guideline to the best of my ability, and you can let me know if I do anything wrong.
This is exactly what I mean.
I. Just. Did.
You're a complete waste of my time. Done with this debate. You are, by far, one of the most horrible debaters I've ever had the displeasure of meeting. You totally lack the ability to respond directly to a point and instead need to resort to making up other people's arguments for them, and then insult them to death by assuming they're too stupid not to notice. As a result, this entire thread is a transcript of you arguing against yourself and the countless counterpositions that you fabricate. Congrats, you're crazy.
'Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.' — Mark Twain
CoinGeneral sure does have a lot of experience.
You're a complete waste of my time. Done with this debate. You are, by far, one of the most horrible debaters I've ever had the displeasure of meeting. You totally lack the ability to respond directly to a point and instead need to resort to making up other people's arguments for them, and then insult them to death by assuming they're too stupid not to notice. As a result, this entire thread is a transcript of you arguing against yourself and the countless counterpositions that you fabricate. Congrats, you're crazy.
So I'm one of the 'most horrible' but not the most horrible debater you've ever met. Who is that?
The Joint, like I said, let me know what I'm doing wrong. If I am so wrong you should be able to refute my points easily. You want to give me a guide on debating so I can follow your guidelines? You want me to stop posting pictures when debating against you? We can start from the beginning, you give me a guideline to follow, and you start off the debate, I'll follow the guideline to the best of my ability, and you can let me know if I do anything wrong.
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