Topic: What's wrong with eating meat? - page 6. (Read 30304 times)
It's not about becoming a vegan, it's because you actually started paying attention to what you started eating.
If you did the EXACT same thing, and ate meat, you'd probably feel the same.
If you did the EXACT same thing, and ate meat, you'd probably feel the same.
Watch the video in my signature that says "The best way to prevent death." If you avoid eating meat, you will most likely end up eating healthier in the same process. The science proves it in my signature. If you ever crave meat again as a vegetarian or vegan, you will benefit yourself and the planet by eating substitute meats that not only taste better, but is also cheaper and healthier for you as well.
(Vegetarian NFL Player)
There are no sacrifices to taking meat out of your diet. Only benefits.
If you want to see some longetivity...
Fauja Singh - 101 year old vegetarian still running marathons. Most people can't even run 10 miles. This guy is running 26 no problem.
Marie-Louise-Meilleur - 117 year old vegetarian. The oldest person in the world before she died.
Christian Mortensen - 115 year old male at time of death. First male CONFIRMED to reach 115, oldest man to ever to die at one point.
Long Name - 122 year old vegetarian. Unconfirmed if that was his true age and his true diet. He died around 1910s so he could have been lying.
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There are some others of course, these just came up in a random Google search, like I said watch some videos, educate your mind, then decide. Don't let society brainwash you.
Fauja Singh - 101 year old vegetarian still running marathons. Most people can't even run 10 miles. This guy is running 26 no problem.
Marie-Louise-Meilleur - 117 year old vegetarian. The oldest person in the world before she died.
Christian Mortensen - 115 year old male at time of death. First male CONFIRMED to reach 115, oldest man to ever to die at one point.
Long Name - 122 year old vegetarian. Unconfirmed if that was his true age and his true diet. He died around 1910s so he could have been lying.
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There are some others of course, these just came up in a random Google search, like I said watch some videos, educate your mind, then decide. Don't let society brainwash you.
It's not about becoming a vegan, it's because you actually started paying attention to what you started eating.
If you did the EXACT same thing, and ate meat, you'd probably feel the same.
If you did the EXACT same thing, and ate meat, you'd probably feel the same.
Two words:
Human dentition.
Human dentition.
Agreed, not only on human dentition though, much more than that:
This is an Indo-Malay fruit bat:
Hint from the name: They only EAT FRUIT
Dietary Habits of a fruit bat from one website:
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There are hundreds of known types of fruits that grow on plants and trees that the Fruit Bat is able to consume. They don’t eat all of the fruit though like so many people believe that they do. Instead, they use their teeth to crush into the fruit. Then they will consume the nectar.
Dietary Habits of a fruit bat from another website:
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Dietary Habits:
Fruit bats are sometimes called flying foxes. One glance at their foxy faces will tell you why. But they don't EAT like foxes. Foxes hunt meaty meals. Not fruit bats. The furry flyers have a serious taste for fruit. Bananas, mangos, dates, avocados—just about every kind of fruit is good food for these bats.
Sometimes fruit bats eat their snacks seeds and all. Later they poop wherever they happen to be. Their poop is chock-full of seeds. Some of those seeds take root and grow to become new fruit trees.
Fruit bats also slurp a sweet liquid called nectar from fruit blossoms. What happens next makes them very important for healthy forests—and for fruit-loving humans. When fruit bats stop to eat, sticky yellow grains of pollen get caught on their fur. Some of the pollen rubs off onto other flowers that the bats visit. That's how bats pollinate flowers, which allows the trees to develop fruits and seeds. Those fruits and seeds feed animals from insects to birds to monkeys. And some of them even feed people!
Fruit bats are sometimes called flying foxes. One glance at their foxy faces will tell you why. But they don't EAT like foxes. Foxes hunt meaty meals. Not fruit bats. The furry flyers have a serious taste for fruit. Bananas, mangos, dates, avocados—just about every kind of fruit is good food for these bats.
Sometimes fruit bats eat their snacks seeds and all. Later they poop wherever they happen to be. Their poop is chock-full of seeds. Some of those seeds take root and grow to become new fruit trees.
Fruit bats also slurp a sweet liquid called nectar from fruit blossoms. What happens next makes them very important for healthy forests—and for fruit-loving humans. When fruit bats stop to eat, sticky yellow grains of pollen get caught on their fur. Some of the pollen rubs off onto other flowers that the bats visit. That's how bats pollinate flowers, which allows the trees to develop fruits and seeds. Those fruits and seeds feed animals from insects to birds to monkeys. And some of them even feed people!
Sarcasm Ahead:
I like how ROTTING FLESH and dead corpses smell really good to us. I like how we have CLAWS that can rip and tear into flesh. I like how we have NIGHT VISION at night to hunt animals. I like how our teeth can REND into flesh.
/sarcasm
4) There's a category of bodybuilding called "natural" bodybuilding where growth hormones and steroids are prohibited. I fall in that category, though I don't exercise nearly enough anymore to consider myself a true hobbyist. I use a vitamin/mineral supplement and whey protein infused with creatine. I use whey protein because I consume 1.5x-2x my weight in grams of protein daily. I like it mixed with the creatine because, aside from being rigorously tested and studied for several decades and deemed completely safe and beneficial, it helps facilitate ATP production which gives me more energy. It's about $1 per 240 calorie serving and takes 10 seconds to make. Meat and vegetables vary in their cooking time depending on the dish. Your argument about vegetables dishes being faster to make is really just a lie of omission.
4) I like how you quoted the "Natural" bodybuilding part in your sentence, because I agree, it's not natural!
Again, you justify my point that the majority of bodybuilders take supplements and drugs in order to boost their performance. You say you won't get enough nutrition as a vegan, so you eat meat AND take supplements and drugs just to be equal. Vegetarians and vegans can take supplements as well, some may choose not to, I choose not to as I am "Fully Natural" not supplemented or drugged up.
"Meat and vegetables vary in their cooking time" yes they do, but for all your meats you generally need to cut up the meat from the dead animal flesh, separate the feathers and fur from the flesh, then cook the small part of flesh that is edible. For fruits and vegetables you generally just wash and eat, most of the time you don't need to cook.
5) If being vegan is so awesome, why did you go off talking about how far technology has come? I thought we had things like hands to pick fruits and vegetables. How does more advanced technology make it better to be vegan/vegetarian?
However, if you want to go there, then keep in mind that technology also allows us to create things like vitamin/mineral supplements that enable almost any person to remove entire food groups from their diet. Vegetables are no exception to this.
However, if you want to go there, then keep in mind that technology also allows us to create things like vitamin/mineral supplements that enable almost any person to remove entire food groups from their diet. Vegetables are no exception to this.
5) Which is more sustainable long term? How many months or years does it take to grow an animal just to be eaten? How much time is dedicated to raising these animals, how much fecal matter is gathered from them, how much pollution do they cause? How many resources does it take to grow them? Why are fruits and vegetables cheaper than meat? Why is substitute meat cheaper than real meat yet taste better and is healthier yet most people have never tried it?
6) I'm glad you acknowledge that at least the taste argument is your personal opinion. I used to eat 16-24oz. of vegetables daily and hated the taste, the way they distended my stomach, and the gas and farting. It's really inconvenient to walk around the office all day with clenched buttcheeks. And, not eating vegetables it allowed more meat to fit in my stomach. And damn is it tasty. But hey, at least we'd never pick from each others plates at dinner.
6) WOW!!! 16 to 24 ounces of organic fruits and vegetables is too much man, you don't want to overdose on organic fruits and vegetables, unnatural and factory produced creatine drug supplements and bovine whey protein you can choke on, but watch out for organic fruits and vegetables that will really do some damage to your health!
This is exactly the kind of society we live in. People are so deluded and dulled up they'll fall for any wishy washy BS shoved down their throats by other "Bro Science" phd graduates saying that fruits and vegetables are bad for your health. I remember when you said Shaolin Monks were super bad ass, now you change your mind just because they're vegetarians? Sorry that being considerate and caring of other creatures on the planet is such a horrible thing.
9) As stated previously, I don't take drugs or steroids, but who are you to imply such a thing?
You don't take drugs or steroids but you admit to taking creatine and whey protein. Look up on Google "Is creatine a drug?" then get back to me on that one. So you're saying a vegetarian or vegan diet is insufficient, so you eat meat and take unnatural supplements, drugs, and steroids just to be equal.
10) Yes, fruits and vegetables have protein, but in negligible amounts for someone with a very active lifestyle. Fruits aren't as nutritionally useful in the Western world as they are in places where obtaining food is a daily concern. Fructose is more readily stored as fat than other types of sugars and is therefore more useful in survival situations. Eating a lot of fruit (and, especially, drinking fruit juice) will likely make sedentary people with poor metabolisms fatter despite the fiber content and its insulin-dampening effects. Vegetables, on the other hand, *are* great for losing fat specifically because they boost the metabolism and dampen insulin spikes when eaten in conjunction with simple sugars. However, unless you really want to eat cups and cups of prunes and coconuts every day, the caloric density is simply missing, especially for active people. Furthermore, they don't contain the energy necessary to effectively repair muscle tissue after strenuous physical exertion, even in large amounts. Insulin supports growth, and inhibiting insulin spikes (which vegetables do) means that it's not going to go very far in helping you recuperate. In contrast, simple sugars like dextrose that are more readily used for energy and spike insulin levels are ideal for rapid recovery; also ideal for rapid recovery are large amounts of protein and amino acids.
Again, thanks for verifying the nutritional benefits of plant foods. You claim you can't live on fruits alone, I beg to differ.
Meet Harley Johnstone. A "Fruitarian" meaning he only eats fruits for the past 13 YEARS, he won first place in the 2013 Strava cycling competition of more than 46,000 competitors. In 2014 he won second place, cycling 6500 kilometers in a month on nothing but fruit. Keep in mind he competed against Tour de France Athletes and other world class level athletes in both competitions and still ended up on top.
Also I recommend watching these videos: I'm pretty sure these guys are much more fit than you are:
Click on the pictures above, they redirect you to a video of their physical prowess as VEGANS. Then get back to me on that one.
Two separate people, two separate videos, both VEGANS.
Two words:
Human dentition.
Human dentition.
Beside the question of animals rights:
1) For thousand of years, we never had so much meat as we have now. Several studies are pointing out that eating too much meat or animal protein can be one of the sources of cancer. Our body isn't used to so much meat.
2) On the other hand, if you stop eating it, you can get serious problems for lack of vitamin B, if you don't take supplements or consume other sources of it.
1) For thousand of years, we never had so much meat as we have now. Several studies are pointing out that eating too much meat or animal protein can be one of the sources of cancer. Our body isn't used to so much meat.
2) On the other hand, if you stop eating it, you can get serious problems for lack of vitamin B, if you don't take supplements or consume other sources of it.
wow , the dishes looks delicious~ i want a big meat lover~~~
Seriously animals have no rights in this world! They are just like slaves to us, for us to kill and torture as much as we want! Who cares if they are suffering and crying and making squealing noises while bleeding all over the place?
I'm a strong supporter of animal rights and i gladly eat veggies instead of meat.
But unfortunately i read that also veggies could have rights because they could feel pain
Dr. Bill Williams, a botanist at The Helvetica Institute: "Plants are aware," says Dr. Williams, "and they feel pain!"
That's bullshit. Plants don't feel pain or are aware of anything. I think this Dr Bill guy is most likely just a crackpot.
The pseudo vegetarians probably far outnumber the real ones. All the vegetarians I know eat some form of meat, or cheat sometimes. Can't really blame them though...
Hello, vegetarian refers to preference at the moment. All animals consume some animal protein, it is impossible to avoid in this geologic era.
well, as a vegetarian myself, i'd like to say, meat taste good~lol
What I want to know, after reading this thread, is what's *right* about eating meat? Now we know all the problems, assuming you guys aren't all becoming vegetarians, why do you keep eating this sort of thing?
There isn't anything wrong with eating meat, it's just some people eat meat too much. The good amount of meat each day to eat is about the size of your hand. Remember too much of anything is good for nothing.
you are right, i eat mainly veggies for "moral" reasons (this could sounds silly for the majority of ppl, i know)
However a mediterranean diet is praised for his health benefits, so better at least reduce meat dishes.
What I want to know, after reading this thread, is what's *right* about eating meat? Now we know all the problems, assuming you guys aren't all becoming vegetarians, why do you keep eating this sort of thing?
-Tastes good
-8 essential amino acids
-Beans are hard to digest
You're right but you are casting pearls before swine, as it were.
What I want to know, after reading this thread, is what's *right* about eating meat? Now we know all the problems, assuming you guys aren't all becoming vegetarians, why do you keep eating this sort of thing?
-Tastes good
-8 essential amino acids
-Beans are hard to digest
What I want to know, after reading this thread, is what's *right* about eating meat? Now we know all the problems, assuming you guys aren't all becoming vegetarians, why do you keep eating this sort of thing?
There isn't anything wrong with eating meat, it's just some people eat meat too much. The good amount of meat each day to eat is about the size of your hand. Remember too much of anything is good for nothing.
What I want to know, after reading this thread, is what's *right* about eating meat? Now we know all the problems, assuming you guys aren't all becoming vegetarians, why do you keep eating this sort of thing?
Seriously animals have no rights in this world! They are just like slaves to us, for us to kill and torture as much as we want! Who cares if they are suffering and crying and making squealing noises while bleeding all over the place?
I'm a strong supporter of animal rights and i gladly eat veggies instead of meat.
But unfortunately i read that also veggies could have rights because they could feel pain
Dr. Bill Williams, a botanist at The Helvetica Institute: "Plants are aware," says Dr. Williams, "and they feel pain!"
Bison, a.k.a., "buffalo" is quite heathy!
http://www.chicagonow.com/katalin-fitness-health-driven/2012/02/5-reasons-to-eat-bison-the-new-healthy-red-meat/#image/1
"If a vegetarian or vegan lifestyle is what you follow, then the title of this blog will probably upset you. There seems to be a very well defined line in the sand between those who eat meat and those who don’t. If you are against meat and believe it has no nutritional value for humans then my blog today is not a good topic for you.
If you are a meat eater, or love red meat and perhaps have stopped because your doctor told you to give it up, you might want to consider bison (or buffalo) meat as your once a month treat.
It is taster than beef and richer in flavor.
It is simply healthier than regular cow beef. It is lower in saturated fat than regular cow beef.
Bison is a great source of nutrients, it has the basics: zinc, niacin, iron, vitamin B6 and selenium. A quick review of some important things these nutrients do:
Selenium – helps prevent cellular damage from free radical.
Zinc- does a lot- helps immune system, hair and skin health and overall cell function
Niacin helps convert food into energy for the body – all at the cellular level
Iron- carries oxygen through the body
B6- tons of value of for physical and even mental health.
4. Bison cattle are not handled like cows. They are mostly living in a freer environment compared to cow/cattle. Although there are many cattle farms that treat the cows humanly, bison seem to be cared for like the elite class of the farm.
5. Bison is one of the leanest meats and still has a lot of protein. But it is the amount of protein you get in bison meat, without the saturated fat that makes this a great alternative to regular beef."
http://www.chicagonow.com/katalin-fitness-health-driven/2012/02/5-reasons-to-eat-bison-the-new-healthy-red-meat/#image/1
"If a vegetarian or vegan lifestyle is what you follow, then the title of this blog will probably upset you. There seems to be a very well defined line in the sand between those who eat meat and those who don’t. If you are against meat and believe it has no nutritional value for humans then my blog today is not a good topic for you.
If you are a meat eater, or love red meat and perhaps have stopped because your doctor told you to give it up, you might want to consider bison (or buffalo) meat as your once a month treat.
It is taster than beef and richer in flavor.
It is simply healthier than regular cow beef. It is lower in saturated fat than regular cow beef.
Bison is a great source of nutrients, it has the basics: zinc, niacin, iron, vitamin B6 and selenium. A quick review of some important things these nutrients do:
Selenium – helps prevent cellular damage from free radical.
Zinc- does a lot- helps immune system, hair and skin health and overall cell function
Niacin helps convert food into energy for the body – all at the cellular level
Iron- carries oxygen through the body
B6- tons of value of for physical and even mental health.
4. Bison cattle are not handled like cows. They are mostly living in a freer environment compared to cow/cattle. Although there are many cattle farms that treat the cows humanly, bison seem to be cared for like the elite class of the farm.
5. Bison is one of the leanest meats and still has a lot of protein. But it is the amount of protein you get in bison meat, without the saturated fat that makes this a great alternative to regular beef."
Since when is eating red meat unhealthy?
Okay, maybe if you're slamming down several pounds of prime rib per day where half of that weight is fat, then sure. But I DO routinely eat pounds of leaner red meat (e.g. Filet mignon, sirloin, skirt steak, etc.) on a consistent basis and I'm in excellent health.
That highlighted part is very important.Okay, maybe if you're slamming down several pounds of prime rib per day where half of that weight is fat, then sure. But I DO routinely eat pounds of leaner red meat (e.g. Filet mignon, sirloin, skirt steak, etc.) on a consistent basis and I'm in excellent health.
http://www.medicaldaily.com/how-red-meat-affects-your-health-7-reasons-avoid-beef-253727
http://www.eatingwell.com/nutrition_health/nutrition_news_information/is_eating_red_meat_good_or_bad_for_your_health
Fish is meat, fish is an animal and fish (the dish) is flesh like red or white meat, fish is composed of proteins like other meats, well is it exactly the same as red meat?, no it isn't, it is as different as white meat is different from red meat. Preferring it over red meat? this can be legitimate and should be respected, but eating an animal and being vegetarian doesn't sound correct to me tho
But anyway, is anything wrong with eating meat? No nothing is wrong as long as it is not abused like with everything eating the necessary quantities of meat is as important as eating the necessary quantities of different vegetables to achieve a balanced diet, our bodies requires different elements in different quantities, and people saying otherwise on this thread are just spouting stupidity and hopefully will see the light instead of arguing just for the sake of arguing.
I can understand and respect, that some vegetarians don't eat meat, because it reminds them of the animals they came from and can support imagining them being killed, and this should be respected, but from there to say being purely vegetarian is better to health or makes you more intelligent or whatever is perfect none sense
But anyway, is anything wrong with eating meat? No nothing is wrong as long as it is not abused like with everything eating the necessary quantities of meat is as important as eating the necessary quantities of different vegetables to achieve a balanced diet, our bodies requires different elements in different quantities, and people saying otherwise on this thread are just spouting stupidity and hopefully will see the light instead of arguing just for the sake of arguing.
I can understand and respect, that some vegetarians don't eat meat, because it reminds them of the animals they came from and can support imagining them being killed, and this should be respected, but from there to say being purely vegetarian is better to health or makes you more intelligent or whatever is perfect none sense
You sum this topic up well. Well done and thankyou.
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