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legendary
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November 27, 2019, 03:51:42 PM
guns sales surge?

um sorry but stats from the PDF the quote was talking about do not state a surge. infact there was a surge in 2012 and 2016 but numbers have been lower and more stable on other years

EG 2018 went down. making 2019 up be treated as just a flatline of other years average

















legendary
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November 27, 2019, 01:47:02 PM
It's happening again. Dems are promoting more gun control, and gun sales are going up. I wonder how many gun-control Dems own stock in the gun companies. Check the article for links.


Gun Sales Surge In October As 2020 Dems Unveil Gun Control Proposals



Roughly 1.2 million guns were sold this October, a 10.8 percent increase from Oct. 2018, according to Small Arms Analytics and Forecasting (pdf). The firm also estimated that about 1.1 million guns were sold in September, another increase of almost 11 percent from the same month last year.

The arms industry observer said it expects sales across 2019 to reach 14 million, past the 13.8 million guns sold in 2018 but below the estimates of 14.7 million sold in 2017 and 16.6 million sold in 2016.

"Sales have definitely been brisk, especially of small concealable handguns. We also saw a spike in sales of tactical rifles like AR-15s and AK-47s, for which I think we can confidently thank Beto O'Rourke," Justin Anderson, marketing director for the North Carolina-based Hyatt Guns, told the Washington Examiner.

O'Rourke, a former U.S. representative from Texas, shouted on the debate stage over the summer "hell yes" when asked if he'd seize guns if elected president. O'Rourke later dropped out of the race, but other candidates have said they'd focus on gun control, including former Vice President Joe Biden, who has proposed banning 9-mm handguns, a popular handgun that's used by numerous law enforcement agencies.

"It seems to me that Biden is preying upon the ignorance of his base by making such a ludicrous suggestion. Black Friday looks to be a huge day for the gun industry, building on what is already a record year for sales. In addition, with so much competition in the marketplace, retail pricing is as low as I've seen in over a decade. My message to consumers thinking about buying a gun: Pull the trigger!" Anderson told the Examiner.


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legendary
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November 25, 2019, 12:26:23 PM
Hey, man. Put your gun down before you do that facepalm. Tryin' to shoot yourself in the head?

when im in america and need to facepalm you. guns are not my worry
i actually refuse to use my right to bear arms more for the concerns of being scratched, not shot

https://images.halloweencostumes.com/products/29661/1-1/right-to-bear-arms.jpg


People who shoot themselves in the head have way more worries than the gun... at least after the fact.

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legendary
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November 25, 2019, 06:19:09 AM
Hey, man. Put your gun down before you do that facepalm. Tryin' to shoot yourself in the head?

when im in america and need to facepalm you. guns are not my worry
i actually refuse to use my right to bear arms more for the concerns of being scratched, not shot


legendary
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November 24, 2019, 05:44:37 PM
We have courts to determine if someone shot someone else for nothing. The courts will help people become responsible with their guns.

(facepalm)
badeckers typical response
shoot first, ask questions later

lets put badeckers theory to the test

lets all just shoot badecker and then see if his freeman court would ask questions. after all he the dead victim cant then accuse the shooter.. he's dead.
and witnesses/advocates for badecker cant accuse the shooter either as they are not the victim

(hey badecker hows your freeman stance now, when its used against you)

oh and what about badeckers thoughts on if badecker was shot his neighbour should be free to then shoot the shooter.
well in reality the shooter never harmed the neighbour so the neighbour has no defense
but in badeckers world. the neighbour shoots the shooter. then another neighbour comes out and sees that there are 2 dead bodies on the ground and a neighbour holding the gun. so then this second neighbour shoots the first neighbour thinking the first neighbour done double murder of badecker and stranger.
a third neighbour hears the multiple shots and see's the first neighbour being shot by the second neighbour and sees badcker and a stranger on the floor too. so the third neighbour shoots the second neighbour.
a fourth neighbour shoots the third neighbour
a fifth neighbour shoots the fourth neighbour
a sixth neighbour shoots the fifth neighbour
and so on until a whole city is dead

yea good luck living next door to badecker

Hey, man. Put your gun down before you do that facepalm. Tryin' to shoot yourself in the head?

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legendary
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November 24, 2019, 12:26:29 PM
We have courts to determine if someone shot someone else for nothing. The courts will help people become responsible with their guns.

(facepalm)
badeckers typical response
shoot first, ask questions later

lets put badeckers theory to the test

lets all just shoot badecker and then see if his freeman court would ask questions. after all he the dead victim cant then accuse the shooter.. he's dead.
and witnesses/advocates for badecker cant accuse the shooter either as they are not the victim

(hey badecker hows your freeman stance now, when its used against you)

oh and what about badeckers thoughts on if badecker was shot his neighbour should be free to then shoot the shooter.
well in reality the shooter never harmed the neighbour so the neighbour has no defense
but in badeckers world. the neighbour shoots the shooter. then another neighbour comes out and sees that there are 2 dead bodies on the ground and a neighbour holding the gun. so then this second neighbour shoots the first neighbour thinking the first neighbour done double murder of badecker and stranger.
a third neighbour hears the multiple shots and see's the first neighbour being shot by the second neighbour and sees badcker and a stranger on the floor too. so the third neighbour shoots the second neighbour.
a fourth neighbour shoots the third neighbour
a fifth neighbour shoots the fourth neighbour
a sixth neighbour shoots the fifth neighbour
and so on until a whole city is dead

yea good luck living next door to badecker
legendary
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November 24, 2019, 11:19:13 AM
There are many countries where guns are required by citizens to protect there families from bad guys. Guns are very much a necessity in such countries. But proper licencing should be ensured on who can own a gun and its parents responsibility to keep it away from kids.

Wrong! It's the parents responsibility to properly train the kids early.

If you take a baby who is less than a year old, and properly introduce him to the swimming pool, he becomes a far better swimmer than if you introduce him at 10-y-o.

Same with guns. Introduce the kids early, so they can learn how to protect themselves later in life, when the need arises.

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hero member
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November 20, 2019, 09:32:18 AM
There are many countries where guns are required by citizens to protect there families from bad guys. Guns are very much a necessity in such countries. But proper licencing should be ensured on who can own a gun and its parents responsibility to keep it away from kids.
legendary
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November 19, 2019, 09:26:13 PM
I didn't think I had to put a disclaimer about the fact that the video if from a fictional tv show.
The video wasn't related to any propaganda pro or against guns.
Just a show i saw 1 year ago and your comment made my think about it.

But to be fair, If a bad person shoots you, then your neighbor shoot them before to protect you before they can shoot you a second time (thus saving your life, good neighbor !!).  (FYI this is your example)

What is the likelihood of a 3rd person who had a distorted view (obstruction, wasn't watching closely, bias toward color of different protagonist) of what happened (ie 1st incident where you were shot) decide to shoot your savior because he saw him shooting your shooter. 


Gun respect comes in two parts:
1. You make sure of what you are doing and why you are doing it, before you shoot. Wild Bill Hickok was a USA Western lawman in many different towns back in the mid 1800s. He was a good shooter, but made his decisions too fast. He accidentally killed his own deputy - https://www.historynet.com/wild-bill-hickok.htm;
2. We have courts to determine if someone shot someone else for nothing. The courts will help people become responsible with their guns.

Guns aren't the problem. When they are used properly, they help the situation. People are the problem.

Gun freedom in the USA is helping to keep the world free. World governments are afraid to enslave their own people, because they know that if they pressure their own people too much, their people will get American guns and rise up against their own governments.

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legendary
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November 19, 2019, 09:04:30 PM
I didn't think I had to put a disclaimer about the fact that the video if from a fictional tv show.
The video wasn't related to any propaganda pro or against guns.
Just a show i saw 1 year ago and your comment made my think about it.

But to be fair, If a bad person shoots you, then your neighbor shoot them before to protect you before they can shoot you a second time (thus saving your life, good neighbor !!).  (FYI this is your example)

What is the likelihood of a 3rd person who had a distorted view (obstruction, wasn't watching closely, bias toward color of different protagonist) of what happened (ie 1st incident where you were shot) decide to shoot your savior because he saw him shooting your shooter. 
legendary
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November 19, 2019, 08:37:50 PM
I think everybody should possess guns. That way, if a bad guy comes along with a gun, people will be used to guns, and will know how to protect themselves. Besides, if the bad guy shoots me, I want my neighbor to have a gun to take down the bad guy, before the bad guy shoots me again.

It takes police too long to get there. Lots of people could be killed by the bad guy before the cops got there to protect us. After all, some shooters, like the school shooters, aren't shooting to steal something. They are simply shooting to see how many people they can kill before the cops get there.

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yes sure, everybody should have a gun !

Then  scene like this one will become reality :
https://youtu.be/pYv39xlyJhc?t=48



Your video would only happen if people all got their guns tomorrow, and never had time to learn respect. However, your video didn't go far enough. Nobody shot. If they didn't have respect because they weren't eased into guns, there would have been dead folks lying all over the floor. Your video is completely misleading and unrealistic.

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legendary
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C.D.P.E.M
November 19, 2019, 06:59:18 PM
I think everybody should possess guns. That way, if a bad guy comes along with a gun, people will be used to guns, and will know how to protect themselves. Besides, if the bad guy shoots me, I want my neighbor to have a gun to take down the bad guy, before the bad guy shoots me again.

It takes police too long to get there. Lots of people could be killed by the bad guy before the cops got there to protect us. After all, some shooters, like the school shooters, aren't shooting to steal something. They are simply shooting to see how many people they can kill before the cops get there.

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yes sure, everybody should have a gun !

Then  scene like this one will become reality :
https://youtu.be/pYv39xlyJhc?t=48

legendary
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November 19, 2019, 06:05:06 PM
I think everybody should possess guns. That way, if a bad guy comes along with a gun, people will be used to guns, and will know how to protect themselves. Besides, if the bad guy shoots me, I want my neighbor to have a gun to take down the bad guy, before the bad guy shoots me again.

It takes police too long to get there. Lots of people could be killed by the bad guy before the cops got there to protect us. After all, some shooters, like the school shooters, aren't shooting to steal something. They are simply shooting to see how many people they can kill before the cops get there.

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newbie
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November 19, 2019, 04:30:38 PM
In our country you need to secure first a license for your guns and license to carry it outside your residence in order for you have it with you everytime, otherwise you will be penalized for illegal possession of firearms an ammunition. People want to have guns for their protection or as their collection, however there are some who use it in bad act. I think guns should be posessed only by men in uniform and other jobs which gunsare essential and not by any individual.
legendary
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November 15, 2019, 06:09:51 AM

https://www.rt.com/russia/473382-blagoveshchensk-shooting-college-witnesses/

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He was kicked out of the classroom for being late, but returned with a high-power shotgun and blasted fellow students at point-blank range.

Lol!

legendary
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November 15, 2019, 03:55:57 AM
My opinion is simple: "It doesn't work". We have gun control in Russia, for example, and you can dedicate some time to read the news:

https://www.rt.com/russia/473382-blagoveshchensk-shooting-college-witnesses/

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He was kicked out of the classroom for being late, but returned with a high-power shotgun and blasted fellow students at point-blank range.

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Most of the class hid under tables, but some stood their ground. One classmate stood up, catching the gunman’s eye. “Hey, are you immortal?” the shooter asked, moments before shooting his unarmed victim at point blank range with the comment: “Let’s check it out!”

That's one way to make someone immortal. Send him into eternity. Of course, he would have gotten there on his own sooner or later anyway.

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legendary
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November 15, 2019, 12:39:59 AM
My opinion is simple: "It doesn't work". We have gun control in Russia, for example, and you can dedicate some time to read the news:

https://www.rt.com/russia/473382-blagoveshchensk-shooting-college-witnesses/

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He was kicked out of the classroom for being late, but returned with a high-power shotgun and blasted fellow students at point-blank range.

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Most of the class hid under tables, but some stood their ground. One classmate stood up, catching the gunman’s eye. “Hey, are you immortal?” the shooter asked, moments before shooting his unarmed victim at point blank range with the comment: “Let’s check it out!”
legendary
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October 29, 2019, 09:34:02 PM
Perhaps you don't want a gun. Maybe this is a better way after all. Read the rest of the article.


6 Non-lethal ways to protect yourself if you’re not ready to carry a firearm



Nobody hopes to get into a situation where you must protect yourself. Moreover, not everyone is ready to handle a gun. Improper gun-handling has dire consequences, which can easily translate to life or death. (h/t to ApartmentPrepper.com)

If you don’t want to handle a gun, there are non-lethal ways for you to protect yourself. Check them out below:

1. Home security system

A home security system is a great warning to thieves and possible assailants. A thief spotting a CCTV camera not only stops him/her from entering the house, it also keeps him/her away from your house. Technology has advanced so much that it’s possible to monitor the house on your phone. Some systems can even detect sounds and movement.

Pick a system which fits your budget and needs. If you live in a small apartment, you may only need CCTV cameras and a connection to your phone. On the other hand, if you live in a house in the suburbs, you can set up more complicated systems, like a password-automated door or sound-detecting features.

Aside from these, there are other safety measures that you can apply to your house:

    Add multiple locking mechanisms to your doors.
    Reinforce your door frames to avoid intruders from just breaking them.
    Set up lights in outdoor areas.
    Keep your information safe by emptying your mailbox.

2. Self-defense classes

There are several classes that teach martial arts. Each kind has specific strengths and points. Choose one that you think fits your build and gives you a fighting chance against bigger opponents.

Pick classes with practical techniques and defenses, not those trained for tournaments. There’s a big difference between attacks done in an alley compared to those in a boxing ring.


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legendary
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October 20, 2019, 06:21:01 PM
https://i.imgur.com/q6sJpTH.jpg

Guns are made for one purpose, and that purpose is to kill.
I believe that guns are not weapons, they are tools. How they are used is up to the person holding it.
Guns are especially dangerous in the hands of people who don't know how to use them (i.e., kids and teenagers) as well as those who are mentally ill and/or have a temper problem.
Gun control will not stop violence because a violent person doesn’t need a gun to be violent.
After the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, support for gun control increased dramatically.

Generally in America, the support for gun control has outweighed the support for gun rights.
Are gun control laws constitutional?
What would be your ideal set of laws regarding firearms?



I agree with you. Violent people use other materials in their acts. Stabbing incidents have become very common these days. In the absence of a gun, people who intend to cause harm could still go on with it. People possess guns for different reasons. Instead of focusing on the laws too much, I think focus should also be on how to stop or minimize the wrong circulation of guns. Else thousands of laws on gun control may be passed but if the wrong people are still coming into contact with guns, then they will use it for its only intended purpose

Be glad that people who use knives and guns for the wrong purpose are usually kinda dumb. If they were smart, they might:

TALON 12 GAUGE Home Made Slam-Fire Shotgun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-71xYF9avA


The variations on the gun in this video are numerous. But check the other videos in the sidebar.

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newbie
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October 20, 2019, 05:56:36 PM
https://i.imgur.com/q6sJpTH.jpg

Guns are made for one purpose, and that purpose is to kill.
I believe that guns are not weapons, they are tools. How they are used is up to the person holding it.
Guns are especially dangerous in the hands of people who don't know how to use them (i.e., kids and teenagers) as well as those who are mentally ill and/or have a temper problem.
Gun control will not stop violence because a violent person doesn’t need a gun to be violent.
After the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, support for gun control increased dramatically.

Generally in America, the support for gun control has outweighed the support for gun rights.
Are gun control laws constitutional?
What would be your ideal set of laws regarding firearms?



I agree with you. Violent people use other materials in their acts. Stabbing incidents have become very common these days. In the absence of a gun, people who intend to cause harm could still go on with it. People possess guns for different reasons. Instead of focusing on the laws too much, I think focus should also be on how to stop or minimize the wrong circulation of guns. Else thousands of laws on gun control may be passed but if the wrong people are still coming into contact with guns, then they will use it for its only intended purpose
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