Whattomine - profitability website with basic json. - page 39.

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Quote from: fredeq on June 10, 2017, 01:22:07 PM

Quote from: Swimmer63 on June 10, 2017, 12:56:51 PM

Hi -
Can I ask about the Revenue column? You have two figures "Rev. BTC" and "Rev. 24h."
I assume that the Rev. 24h is the revenue your miner would receive in 24 hours of mining converted to BTC. But what does the top number mean? Rev. BTC?

Sure, Rev BTC is a revenue calculated using current difficulty and Rev 24h using difficulty average over last 24h.
Both values are per full day of mining.

Got it. Thanks!

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Quote from: fredeq on June 10, 2017, 02:41:28 AM

Quote from: fonyo on June 09, 2017, 08:47:24 PM

I'd like to use the data for a presentation. Any idea where else I could get data from?

Just to clarify - I dont store profitability(or btc revenue) at all, its always computed on the fly.

Most accurate would be to get data straight from the blockchain for `difficulty`, `block_reward` with their `timestamp`.
Then add `exchange_rate` for this timestamp (or its 24hr average) and compute revenues.

I guess you could scrape it yourself from block_explorers, but for how many coins do you need it?
I have misunderstood that you need this exposed longterm. Are you looking for a one-time data drop?

Yes, surely I could "scissor" pieces together from various sources to prove/present something but it is much more acceptable if it comes from a single official/transparent source. (Woah, I have said it, your site is cool for serious business!) Yes, it is a one-time data drop to date. Whatever I can work with. I am an MI guy, anything Excel can digest is good. If you have more than what Excel can handle is also cool. It wouldn't be the first time stretching the boundaries of Excel (or killing it). Wink

If not, I will figure out something, no worries. Although, I think this would benefit others, too.

Still, you rock matey. Keep up the great work. Best of luck with your baby.

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Quote from: Swimmer63 on June 10, 2017, 12:56:51 PM

Hi -
Can I ask about the Revenue column? You have two figures "Rev. BTC" and "Rev. 24h."
I assume that the Rev. 24h is the revenue your miner would receive in 24 hours of mining converted to BTC. But what does the top number mean? Rev. BTC?

Sure, Rev BTC is a revenue calculated using current difficulty and Rev 24h using difficulty average over last 24h.
Both values are per full day of mining.

Swimmer63

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Hi -
Can I ask about the Revenue column? You have two figures "Rev. BTC" and "Rev. 24h."
I assume that the Rev. 24h is the revenue your miner would receive in 24 hours of mining converted to BTC. But what does the top number mean? Rev. BTC?

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Quote from: fonyo on June 09, 2017, 08:47:24 PM

I'd like to use the data for a presentation. Any idea where else I could get data from?

Just to clarify - I dont store profitability(or btc revenue) at all, its always computed on the fly.

Most accurate would be to get data straight from the blockchain for `difficulty`, `block_reward` with their `timestamp`.
Then add `exchange_rate` for this timestamp (or its 24hr average) and compute revenues.

I guess you could scrape it yourself from block_explorers, but for how many coins do you need it?
I have misunderstood that you need this exposed longterm. Are you looking for a one-time data drop?

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Quote from: MindALot on June 09, 2017, 12:07:15 AM

Would anyone be interested in an 'auto-switcher' for Linux?

The first revision would require the user to do a bit of upfront configuration (point to all miners, set up wallets, all using editing on the Linux processors).

I have messed with curl / whattomine's json interface enough to parse which coins are the most profitable, by how much difference, and I know enough to find/kill processes and restart new miners.

I already have a script which can easily switch what 'coin' to mine - even supporting multiple pools for a single coin.

I could probably interface with most pools to figure out if your rig is underperforming at the pool and switch to the next.

The question is - does anyone care?

There are already auto-miners on Windows (nicehash/minersgate). There might be one for Linux that I haven't found yet.

Thoughts? Features desired before you'd be interested?

Check out aaronsace on github.com (multipoolminer). I believe Linux version is also coming.

Quote from: fredeq on June 09, 2017, 12:22:43 AM

@fonyo No time right now for this, but I would like to see graphs on the site one day.
What are you looking for? Past is past Wink

I'd like to use the data for a presentation. Any idea where else I could get data from?

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hmmm.. maybe I'm wrong. Last I went looking sgminer either didn't support Linux or Nvidia .. but it seems there is support.. so maybe I just couldn't find it before.

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Quote from: MindALot on June 08, 2017, 01:35:15 PM

Is there a way to get the coins result from the front page and add in skein to the html results?

I tried hacking in skein but with no results.

Its not possible right now, but you can call skein single calc json on a side and then merge it into index response.

@fonyo No time right now for this, but I would like to see graphs on the site one day.
What are you looking for? Past is past Wink

@MindALot There is no nicehash miner for linux? Interesting.

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Would anyone be interested in an 'auto-switcher' for Linux?

The first revision would require the user to do a bit of upfront configuration (point to all miners, set up wallets, all using editing on the Linux processors).

I have messed with curl / whattomine's json interface enough to parse which coins are the most profitable, by how much difference, and I know enough to find/kill processes and restart new miners.

I already have a script which can easily switch what 'coin' to mine - even supporting multiple pools for a single coin.

I could probably interface with most pools to figure out if your rig is underperforming at the pool and switch to the next.

The question is - does anyone care?

There are already auto-miners on Windows (nicehash/minersgate). There might be one for Linux that I haven't found yet.

Thoughts? Features desired before you'd be interested?

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Quote from: fredeq on June 06, 2017, 12:13:37 PM

Quote from: fonyo on June 06, 2017, 11:33:21 AM

Do you keep historical profitability data and if so is it accessible ?

I dont delete past data, but its not accessible, nor it is refined or even sanitized to be shown Tongue

Would you mind creating a profitability chart/graph for historical data or even just plain text (percentage) such as the one you have in the last column but for intervals of last month to a year please?

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Is there a way to get the coins result from the front page and add in skein to the html results?

I tried hacking in skein but with no results.

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Quote from: Liquid71 on June 06, 2017, 09:23:57 PM

Just wanted to say thanks you guys do an awesome job, you make mining fun and profitable!

You should advertise with companies that have miners in stock. That's my only request, I see the x11 miner but they never have any stock. Also a good ICO to list on your website is Giga Watt which does hosting for miners, check it out https://cryptonomos.com/?r=1H2MkmZnQak9mIc0NKCaddDsQ

Avalon has stock, I don't know if they pay and you deserve to get paid but it'd be cool if they advertised on what to mine. Just trying to think of the few places that have miners left. Anyway thanks and cheers Grin

Thanks

I am not really looking for advertisers, they usually come to me if they need an ad placed.
I think all baikal stock is bought instantly. Its possible they prefer to sell on chinese market first.

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Just wanted to say thanks you guys do an awesome job, you make mining fun and profitable!

You should advertise with companies that have miners in stock. That's my only request, I see the x11 miner but they never have any stock. Also a good ICO to list on your website is Giga Watt which does hosting for miners, check it out https://cryptonomos.com/?r=1H2MkmZnQak9mIc0NKCaddDsQ

Avalon has stock, I don't know if they pay and you deserve to get paid but it'd be cool if they advertised on what to mine. Just trying to think of the few places that have miners left. Anyway thanks and cheers Grin

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Added ZEN Zencash to gpu list
https://whattomine.com/coins/185-zen-equihash

Also added values for 1080 card to GPU section

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Quote from: fonyo on June 06, 2017, 11:33:21 AM

Do you keep historical profitability data and if so is it accessible ?

I dont delete past data, but its not accessible, nor it is refined or even sanitized to be shown Tongue

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Do you keep historical profitability data and if so is it accessible ?

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Quote from: Albortz on June 01, 2017, 05:34:54 AM

But isn't that the point. If you make less per day than your costs of producing are, you would stop. Basically the point where Marginal Revenue is Marginal Costs.

If we are just looking at BTC as baseline and we would make more mining alts instead of BTC, does that not automatically mean it makes sense at all if we are still loosing money doing so,because our cost are to high.

But still great website, i use it daily and now that i know how its calculated i can make my own spreadsheet calculation for my business

Keep it up

I would say current percentage formula is better suited for what I want it to show Wink

As for negative profit there is a separate field for that (also bold to make it more visible) - profit $

If you are interested more in current profit than in current revenue in BTC then I suggest sorting the list by profit.
Think this would be better representation of what you are trying to achieve.

Thanks again

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Quote from: fredeq on June 01, 2017, 12:41:45 AM

Quote from: Albortz on May 31, 2017, 05:29:32 PM

Wouldn't it make more sense to calculate the profitability based on Revenue and Costs, instead of comparing it with BTC.

So lets say you got 2$ electricity cost and earn 4$ a day => 4-2=2$ => 100% ROI

Or am i missing something. I understood its calculated based on BTC revenue

Hmm not sure this would give any extra information?
For sure it would make percentages quite high.
It would also introduce negative percentage and I wanted to avoid that.

The current logic is "What percentage more / less will I gain mining this coin in comparison to ETH"
I think its pretty obvious, when you have a baseline with something set as 100%.

Oh and the name is wrong, someone already pointed that out.
I guess it should be named revenuability if thats even a word Cheesy

@Swimmer63
I have updated the reward yesterday and added halving formula as well.
Estimates should be good now.

But isn't that the point. If you make less per day than your costs of producing are, you would stop. Basically the point where Marginal Revenue is Marginal Costs.

If we are just looking at BTC as baseline and we would make more mining alts instead of BTC, does that not automatically mean it makes sense at all if we are still loosing money doing so,because our cost are to high.

But still great website, i use it daily and now that i know how its calculated i can make my own spreadsheet calculation for my business

Keep it up

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Quote from: Albortz on May 31, 2017, 05:29:32 PM

Wouldn't it make more sense to calculate the profitability based on Revenue and Costs, instead of comparing it with BTC.

So lets say you got 2$ electricity cost and earn 4$ a day => 4-2=2$ => 100% ROI

Or am i missing something. I understood its calculated based on BTC revenue

Hmm not sure this would give any extra information?
For sure it would make percentages quite high.
It would also introduce negative percentage and I wanted to avoid that.

The current logic is "What percentage more / less will I gain mining this coin in comparison to ETH"
I think its pretty obvious, when you have a baseline with something set as 100%.

Oh and the name is wrong, someone already pointed that out.
I guess it should be named revenuability if thats even a word Cheesy

@Swimmer63
I have updated the reward yesterday and added halving formula as well.
Estimates should be good now.

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Quote from: fredeq on May 31, 2017, 03:09:48 PM

Quote from: Swimmer63 on May 31, 2017, 03:06:52 PM

GameCredits reward halved about 36 hours ago. Should be 12.5 per block.

Just read your email, thanks

Honestly thought the reward is static here, will have to dig into wallet to find how often it halves.

Don't know myself. But I noticed it was halving last week and started mining. Got a 100 but I'm not sure it will be worth it.
It's way off it's high. We'll see. I'll hodl for a while.

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