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Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 09, 2022, 05:05:37 AM

Quote from: ringgo96 on October 09, 2022, 01:47:34 AM

In the world of gambling we must feel this especially those of us who have already made a big profit so when the next game we do it, the awareness will disappear until we can feel such a profit again, even in times of difficult situations like the one you said have exceeded our financial limits but we are still rushing to find a way to continue the game, then it is very rare for people to be able to control this situation and eventually they lose everything, bad habits are indeed difficult for us to eliminate in an instant but by means of being able to control the situation then such a thing will definitely be resolved.

It depends on how we can control ourselves by limiting the amount of money we use on gambling. Thus, we will not try to bet beyond our financial limits because we already know the risks so we are still on the right track. And even though we can have luck at the time of gambling and by chance, we can win some money in gambling games, we will not increase the number of bets because it can provide a greater risk of losing. So we just play gambling and have fun by not forgetting that gambling games are not a place to make money.

Gambling is not a place to make money? Then what is it? A place to play games? Coz if you're looking to just play a game, then I believe you're in the wrong place. You could've gone to arcade spot.
Whether you like it or not, gambling always involves money and it is definitely a place to either lose or earn money by playing a game. It is actually a fun and enjoyable way to earn money, until you lose everything, that'll put you in misery real quick lol.

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Quote from: ringgo96 on October 09, 2022, 01:47:34 AM

In the world of gambling we must feel this especially those of us who have already made a big profit so when the next game we do it, the awareness will disappear until we can feel such a profit again, even in times of difficult situations like the one you said have exceeded our financial limits but we are still rushing to find a way to continue the game, then it is very rare for people to be able to control this situation and eventually they lose everything, bad habits are indeed difficult for us to eliminate in an instant but by means of being able to control the situation then such a thing will definitely be resolved.

It depends on how we can control ourselves by limiting the amount of money we use on gambling. Thus, we will not try to bet beyond our financial limits because we already know the risks so we are still on the right track. And even though we can have luck at the time of gambling and by chance, we can win some money in gambling games, we will not increase the number of bets because it can provide a greater risk of losing. So we just play gambling and have fun by not forgetting that gambling games are not a place to make money.

Actually, there are various ways for us to control our gambling activities whether it's by limiting the amount we gamble or by not overspending our bankroll to avoid future losses. However, one way that works very well for me is by assessing the situations such as our funds, limits, bets, gambling activities and/or even knowing when to stop. I myself sometimes try to deposit more when losing on my gambling activities however it depends on my spending limits or extra funds. If I don't have any more extra funds, then I immediately stop my gambling activities whether I win or not. Also, we must be able to assess our winning situation and losing situation as we can be at a much greater loss if we don't know when to stop just like what we do on investment, we try to cut loss.

I also had the same experience as you before, depositing more money than usual and using it to gamble. Instead of winning, I lost all the money but that didn't stop me from depositing some more money. And I've also lost more games in one day, which made me regret it after the defeat. Since then, I have tried to realize that gambling does not necessarily have to cost a lot of money because we must never forget our goals in gambling. And if we just want to have fun in our spare time, we only need to spend enough money and stop immediately when we feel we have played enough. Never break these rules. Otherwise, we will surely suffer a huge loss at once.

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Quote from: Silberman on October 09, 2022, 09:12:35 PM

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Quote from: Silberman on October 03, 2022, 09:36:25 PM

In my case I do not blame newbies when they make the mistake of thinking they can actually become profitable when they gamble, my problem is that some of those newbies never really learn their lesson, they lose all of their capital and instead of thinking that this is a trend that is going to continue they believe that this was an exception, so the next time they gather some money they gamble once again with the intention of becoming profitable, then at some point they realize all the money they have lost and then they keep gambling hoping to recover it, and by that point there is a very high chance that they are already addicted to gambling.

Right. I think that in gambling (if so a beginner made a mistake - came here for money and not for entertainment), you must first come up with strategies, test them, and only then spend real money trying to put these strategies into practice. Roughly speaking, you need to have some serious reason to assume that you will win. It is naive to think that millions of gamblers are unprofitable, but it is you who will be profitable "for no reason." But beginners continue to play losing their money and turn into addicted gamblers as a result.

While it may not seem to make any sense there is a lot of people that think like that, they believe they are so exceptional that just by virtue of being themselves they do not really need to do anything but make a few bets and earn money when they gamble, I know that for us this sounds ridiculous but many people have that kind of thinking and they apply it everywhere, and example of this was when I was at school and a lot of my peers did not prepare themselves for the upcoming test and yet they thought they will get good grades, and when they did not they made all kind of excuses instead of accepting they simply did not deserved to get a good grade.

This is no news that there are really individuals who think they are extraordinary and superior to others because of the qualities they have. I have encountered so many people that has that kind of attitude and it reflects on their behavior as well. I believe this kind of mentality can really cost them so much. The complacency and arrogances reeks unfortunate scenarios waiting to happen.

Gambling is not about making a bet and automatically you'll win it. It's a matter of chance. And perhaps their several chances that turned out great really made them believe they are exceptional or they have exceptional skills when in fact they don't, and it's just all in their head. This could put their funds at risk and could really disappoint and make them very anxious big time if they won't acknowledge that gambling is a mix of strategies, game approach, and luck.

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Quote from: KTChampions on October 07, 2022, 07:29:10 AM

Quote from: Silberman on October 03, 2022, 09:36:25 PM

In my case I do not blame newbies when they make the mistake of thinking they can actually become profitable when they gamble, my problem is that some of those newbies never really learn their lesson, they lose all of their capital and instead of thinking that this is a trend that is going to continue they believe that this was an exception, so the next time they gather some money they gamble once again with the intention of becoming profitable, then at some point they realize all the money they have lost and then they keep gambling hoping to recover it, and by that point there is a very high chance that they are already addicted to gambling.

Right. I think that in gambling (if so a beginner made a mistake - came here for money and not for entertainment), you must first come up with strategies, test them, and only then spend real money trying to put these strategies into practice. Roughly speaking, you need to have some serious reason to assume that you will win. It is naive to think that millions of gamblers are unprofitable, but it is you who will be profitable "for no reason." But beginners continue to play losing their money and turn into addicted gamblers as a result.

While it may not seem to make any sense there is a lot of people that think like that, they believe they are so exceptional that just by virtue of being themselves they do not really need to do anything but make a few bets and earn money when they gamble, I know that for us this sounds ridiculous but many people have that kind of thinking and they apply it everywhere, and example of this was when I was at school and a lot of my peers did not prepare themselves for the upcoming test and yet they thought they will get good grades, and when they did not they made all kind of excuses instead of accepting they simply did not deserved to get a good grade.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 09, 2022, 05:05:37 AM

Quote from: ringgo96 on October 09, 2022, 01:47:34 AM

In the world of gambling we must feel this especially those of us who have already made a big profit so when the next game we do it, the awareness will disappear until we can feel such a profit again, even in times of difficult situations like the one you said have exceeded our financial limits but we are still rushing to find a way to continue the game, then it is very rare for people to be able to control this situation and eventually they lose everything, bad habits are indeed difficult for us to eliminate in an instant but by means of being able to control the situation then such a thing will definitely be resolved.

It depends on how we can control ourselves by limiting the amount of money we use on gambling. Thus, we will not try to bet beyond our financial limits because we already know the risks so we are still on the right track. And even though we can have luck at the time of gambling and by chance, we can win some money in gambling games, we will not increase the number of bets because it can provide a greater risk of losing. So we just play gambling and have fun by not forgetting that gambling games are not a place to make money.

Actually, there are various ways for us to control our gambling activities whether it's by limiting the amount we gamble or by not overspending our bankroll to avoid future losses. However, one way that works very well for me is by assessing the situations such as our funds, limits, bets, gambling activities and/or even knowing when to stop. I myself sometimes try to deposit more when losing on my gambling activities however it depends on my spending limits or extra funds. If I don't have any more extra funds, then I immediately stop my gambling activities whether I win or not. Also, we must be able to assess our winning situation and losing situation as we can be at a much greater loss if we don't know when to stop just like what we do on investment, we try to cut loss.

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Quote from: ringgo96 on October 09, 2022, 01:47:34 AM

In the world of gambling we must feel this especially those of us who have already made a big profit so when the next game we do it, the awareness will disappear until we can feel such a profit again, even in times of difficult situations like the one you said have exceeded our financial limits but we are still rushing to find a way to continue the game, then it is very rare for people to be able to control this situation and eventually they lose everything, bad habits are indeed difficult for us to eliminate in an instant but by means of being able to control the situation then such a thing will definitely be resolved.

It depends on how we can control ourselves by limiting the amount of money we use on gambling. Thus, we will not try to bet beyond our financial limits because we already know the risks so we are still on the right track. And even though we can have luck at the time of gambling and by chance, we can win some money in gambling games, we will not increase the number of bets because it can provide a greater risk of losing. So we just play gambling and have fun by not forgetting that gambling games are not a place to make money.

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Quote from: erep on October 08, 2022, 03:59:32 PM

Quote from: Sanitough on October 08, 2022, 11:57:10 AM

I think we all here as a gambler have our own share of story when it comes to going overboard even if we knew the risks and the situation we're in. Almost all stories are really similar so I won't bother sharing mine but the important thing is that, just like yours, I managed to stop that habit because it could potentially hurt my savings if I will just let myself dive and chase the losses with the hopes of covering it up or earn.

Many gamblers deposit other funds in the hope of recovering at least 50% of the impact of previous losses so using money exceeds the daily threshold to gamble, if the aim is to cover previous losses then it causes another loss because you can't control yourself to stop when you have used the funds others to gamble.

It seems to me that such gamblers need to understand one simple thing - you can't go back to yesterday, no matter how much you want to. So I think that if a person is trying to win back his past losses, then he clearly already has a gambling addiction with which you need to fight by all available means. If a person has no control over his actions in gambling, it is likely to lead to bad consequences. And I would encourage them to pay attention to this as soon as possible.

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Quote from: Fredomago on October 06, 2022, 11:45:08 PM

The big problem is we are not indeed! We tend to be one, but once we step our fit inside gambling, we mostly forget our plans and goals. Either we get tempted in trying to win more or to recover our losses instead of sticking with our plans. If only gamblers can really manage this part of their activities, it might lessen the chance of losing big, but reality wise and why we keep seeing more and more casinos being open from time to time.

Casino owner knows how to play with the emotions and once they've been in control, they can easily make more money with the business.

Not know how to control is the key factor why casino is keep collecting more paycheck from the gamblers.

What do you guys mean "we are not"? We can say that gambling sites are luring us but it's also our fault too because we continue playing even if we knew it. It's always better to have a plan or a goal because most of us can stick with it and once we achieve it, we will then stop although I know there are times where we can exceed or short when what we have planned but there will be a reason for that.

There are no perfect gamblers anyway but what important is that we are trying hard to correct our previous mistakes and we can stick to our set plans most of the times. That goal or plan must also be realistic so that it will not be hard for you to follow it.

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In the world of gambling we must feel this especially those of us who have already made a big profit so when the next game we do it, the awareness will disappear until we can feel such a profit again, even in times of difficult situations like the one you said have exceeded our financial limits but we are still rushing to find a way to continue the game, then it is very rare for people to be able to control this situation and eventually they lose everything, bad habits are indeed difficult for us to eliminate in an instant but by means of being able to control the situation then such a thing will definitely be resolved.

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Quote from: erep on October 08, 2022, 03:59:32 PM

Quote from: Sanitough on October 08, 2022, 11:57:10 AM

I think we all here as a gambler have our own share of story when it comes to going overboard even if we knew the risks and the situation we're in. Almost all stories are really similar so I won't bother sharing mine but the important thing is that, just like yours, I managed to stop that habit because it could potentially hurt my savings if I will just let myself dive and chase the losses with the hopes of covering it up or earn.

Many gamblers deposit other funds in the hope of recovering at least 50% of the impact of previous losses so using money exceeds the daily threshold to gamble, if the aim is to cover previous losses then it causes another loss because you can't control yourself to stop when you have used the funds others to gamble.

In gambling we must know already our limits and of course the budget itself, some people having a hope in investing a lot to play gambling and getting a chance to get a huge amount of multiplier, still it is ideal to have your gambling strategy or technique for make sure as a preparation for your playing because not all the time we can get a huge amount of profit when playing. Gambler who often lose their control and decision making in playing are the one who becomes greedy to earn their money back and makes toward to more losing of assets.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 08, 2022, 08:43:10 AM

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some uses for fun but majority for profit while the truth is? they only gather losses more than they can win so yes this is attracting gamblers to play more and to increase their earnings as the more players deposit meaning the more winning from the team and the site.
gamble with your enough fund to lose and never let your greediness wins against you .

Yes, that would be better to do than suffer a lot of defeat without realizing it. We have to prevent greed from coming and really have to pay attention that gambling is not about trying to win. Maybe gambling can give us pleasure but don't forget gambling can also give us sadness when we experience defeat. And before that happens to us, we better prevent it. And don't deposit more money if you don't want to see a lot of losses.

there is nothing wrong in trying to win but at least we must know our limits in chasing ? because the big problem only occurs once the gambler takes ahead of the limits and bet everything that even he cannot afford to lose.
with those act mostly the gambler becomes a loser if not addicted so try to focus in what will happen in the future than living just what in the present because the effect of gambling is so much to handle if you missed taking a right path.

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Quote from: Falconer on October 07, 2022, 03:13:41 PM

I have experience with it although I don't think it will be exactly what you want to hear. I hit my gambling threshold in a day because I wanted to catch up on my previous losses. Ignoring the greater risk of loss actually made me even more lost when I realized my ATM was empty.

I actually do understand how you must have felt hitting your gambling threshold all in a single day while trying to recover your lost funds, because thats one thing most people fail to understand about gambling, that gambling is never a do or die affair, of which sometimes is good to learn how to accept defeat while we bounce back to restrategize, come back and try again.

NOTE: Gambling is not a do or die affair..

You are right. it is important to be able to hold back and step back for a moment and prepare to return with a calm mind. but it is very difficult to stop, especially if we have suffered a lot of losses and we even want to double the bet so that we can reverse our lost capital. so this is where we really have to be good at holding back our own feelings that want to reverse capital in a fast time. when we have feelings like that we are actually in a bad mental state. and indeed must stop to rest. and maybe we can come back when we're mentally calmer.

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some uses for fun but majority for profit while the truth is? they only gather losses more than they can win so yes this is attracting gamblers to play more and to increase their earnings as the more players deposit meaning the more winning from the team and the site.
gamble with your enough fund to lose and never let your greediness wins against you .

Yes, that would be better to do than suffer a lot of defeat without realizing it. We have to prevent greed from coming and really have to pay attention that gambling is not about trying to win. Maybe gambling can give us pleasure but don't forget gambling can also give us sadness when we experience defeat. And before that happens to us, we better prevent it. And don't deposit more money if you don't want to see a lot of losses.

Both winning and losing in gambling can lead you to ruin. You have to come back from there by controlling yourself. For example, if you win, you can gamble more with your winning money to win more. On the other hand, even if you lose, you will have to pursue to recover your lost money. If you can successfully control gambling between these two things, then your losses can be greatly reduced.

If you win, you better leave the game immediately, withdraw the winning money, and enjoy it because it will not be easy to win another amount of winning money. And if you lose several times and almost halve the money you previously had, it's better to leave the game immediately because your emotions may rise and make you want to recover your losses. It can also make you experience a loss that might be bigger. And I agree that, in this case, self-control will be necessary so that we do not risk losing a large amount of money.

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Quote from: Sanitough on October 08, 2022, 11:57:10 AM

I think we all here as a gambler have our own share of story when it comes to going overboard even if we knew the risks and the situation we're in. Almost all stories are really similar so I won't bother sharing mine but the important thing is that, just like yours, I managed to stop that habit because it could potentially hurt my savings if I will just let myself dive and chase the losses with the hopes of covering it up or earn.

Many gamblers deposit other funds in the hope of recovering at least 50% of the impact of previous losses so using money exceeds the daily threshold to gamble, if the aim is to cover previous losses then it causes another loss because you can't control yourself to stop when you have used the funds others to gamble.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on October 07, 2022, 10:49:14 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on October 07, 2022, 07:29:10 AM

Right. I think that in gambling (if so a beginner made a mistake - came here for money and not for entertainment), you must first come up with strategies, test them, and only then spend real money trying to put these strategies into practice. Roughly speaking, you need to have some serious reason to assume that you will win. It is naive to think that millions of gamblers are unprofitable, but it is you who will be profitable "for no reason." But beginners continue to play losing their money and turn into addicted gamblers as a result.

This is common mistake of the newbie because when they are starting to see streamers in different social media and streaming platforms they are promoting the gambling casino and they think it is just easy to make a bet that's why they got the courage to play and deposit of course because of the persuasion of the paid streamers that they can really earn money but of course, there's a contract with it like for the deposited amount and show off the stream, at the same time is the possible risk losing their money and winning a double or more with their deposit, that's why always gambling responsively it is good to make an investment with the knowledge first in gambling strategy and management before taking a risk.

By the way, if we talk about preliminary preparation, there are many different casino simulator programs. In the place of beginners, I would hone my strategies with the help of such programs than spend money in a real casino to find out what is already clear right away - you can’t come up with a strategy to beat the casino. But people act irrationally...

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Quote from: paxmao on September 15, 2022, 06:35:32 PM

Have you ever had an experience betting in which you knew that you were going over the limits of you finances and still continued? I have one playing a game, it was absorbing plenty of my time and despite me knowing it, I was kind of hooked on it. It was not a financial problem, but left me wondering how easy is to actually fall into a bad habit and how difficult is to break it.

I have experience with it although I don't think it will be exactly what you want to hear. I hit my gambling threshold in a day because I wanted to catch up on my previous losses. Ignoring the greater risk of loss actually made me even more lost when I realized my ATM was empty.

Obviously this is a bad habit of gambling, but I've realized that and haven't repeated it since. To this day, I wouldn't feel the need to make more deposits in case I lost on the first deposit. I will stop and come back another time and opportunity, this will definitely control the emotions a little.

I think we all here as a gambler have our own share of story when it comes to going overboard even if we knew the risks and the situation we're in. Almost all stories are really similar so I won't bother sharing mine but the important thing is that, just like yours, I managed to stop that habit because it could potentially hurt my savings if I will just let myself dive and chase the losses with the hopes of covering it up or earn.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on October 08, 2022, 08:43:10 AM

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some uses for fun but majority for profit while the truth is? they only gather losses more than they can win so yes this is attracting gamblers to play more and to increase their earnings as the more players deposit meaning the more winning from the team and the site.
gamble with your enough fund to lose and never let your greediness wins against you .

Yes, that would be better to do than suffer a lot of defeat without realizing it. We have to prevent greed from coming and really have to pay attention that gambling is not about trying to win. Maybe gambling can give us pleasure but don't forget gambling can also give us sadness when we experience defeat. And before that happens to us, we better prevent it. And don't deposit more money if you don't want to see a lot of losses.

Both winning and losing in gambling can lead you to ruin. You have to come back from there by controlling yourself. For example, if you win, you can gamble more with your winning money to win more. On the other hand, even if you lose, you will have to pursue to recover your lost money. If you can successfully control gambling between these two things, then your losses can be greatly reduced.

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some uses for fun but majority for profit while the truth is? they only gather losses more than they can win so yes this is attracting gamblers to play more and to increase their earnings as the more players deposit meaning the more winning from the team and the site.
gamble with your enough fund to lose and never let your greediness wins against you .

Yes, that would be better to do than suffer a lot of defeat without realizing it. We have to prevent greed from coming and really have to pay attention that gambling is not about trying to win. Maybe gambling can give us pleasure but don't forget gambling can also give us sadness when we experience defeat. And before that happens to us, we better prevent it. And don't deposit more money if you don't want to see a lot of losses.

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Quote from: wxa7115 on October 07, 2022, 07:36:49 PM

Quote from: dunfida on October 07, 2022, 04:52:13 PM

Dont chase up your losses
Dont chase up on winning
Dont chase up on having profits

Play when you do seek out for leisure and dont mind about money.
Winning is just a bonus but dont make yourself believe that it would really be that sustainable or something
that could make you rich.Its a wrong mindset as always.

Useful advice but it is very difficult for most people to do something like this, and this is because during a great deal of our lives we do what we can to obtain more money, so gambling just for fun without actually caring about whether we win or lose is very hard for most people.

And while eventually the majority can learn to gamble responsibly there is a small group of people which are incapable of this, and they will keep chasing their losses when they gamble and this means they will most likely at some point in time become addicted to it.

It seems to me that the first thing every gambler must understand is that the casino earns either its owner or the one who is lucky (but that rarely happens). From a mathematical point of view, any player in the long run will lose all his money. Therefore, to consider gambling as an income is the biggest misconception. You need to learn to enjoy the game itself and forget about trying to win back his past losses.

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It really depends but there is a high chance that almost every beginner will experience this because he/she doesn't know yet how to control things while gambling as there are some factors that we need to consider to avoid such extremes like emotions and proper mindset to know how to set your boundaries to avoid getting over your limits, so that your finances won't be disturbed as that will cause more problems.

That's probably because beginners will not think too much about winning and only have a curiosity that makes them end up playing gambling. And because of that curiosity, they will not use too much emotion and just want to play gambling and learn to feel the fun. In addition, it may be that the casino deliberately gives the winnings to the beginners to draw them deeper into gambling and in the end, the beginners deposit the money to get more fun. This will allow beginners who previously only used a little money to return to deposit more money to play gambling.

It's the other way around, truth is beginners are only thinking about winning without thinking carefully and curiosity rides with that fact that's why they end up playing much longer but I agree with that fact that sometimes casino intentionally let their customers win to have that their pleasures without knowing that one or two of those customers are just beginners, that said pleasures is the key to unlock their deep desires to win more but in reality they kept on losing because greed is already controlling them, they want to have that money back that's why they usually ends up giving the casino more money.

If at the time the beginners win, they can stop immediately, I don't think it will make them suffer a big loss because of the greed that gets bigger as their number of wins increases. Casinos letting newbies win some money know that in the end, irresponsible newbies will return to where they were and play with more money because newbies think that it could give them a chance to win more money. And it is because of greed that beginners have to endure many losses.

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