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A man loses control when he allows excitement to completely take over his mind. In order to prevent this, you need to have a good command of meditation, practice yoga, take a number of psycho-training courses, and learn to control stress. And strictly adhere to a pre-determined plan of action

the things you mentioned can help someone to control themselves, but the important thing about all of that is when someone understands themselves and considers that gambling is a game just for fun to fill free time. when they understand that gambling is just entertainment and nothing more than that, they tend to be more in control of themselves and ready for everything. they will be more disciplined in their gambling and know the limits in doing things and balance gambling and their personal lives.
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There is an opinion that the greatest dependence on gambling is formed at the moment of a big win. The player understands that money can be earned LIKE THIS. This is a fairly common opinion.

But I believe that the greatest dependence on gambling appears at the moment of loss, when the player admits in his head the idea that he could earn so much. He is disappointed, but wants to recoup. It is at this moment that the desire comes to play again and again in order to return to the previous state.

What do you think about it?
It's when someone gets addicted to gambling of course. Chasing winnings or loss are the most common reason for this. You can't stop betting when you are chasing to be honest and I know that this has happened so many times to most gamblers.
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When the gambler start to have a debt. Even if it's small debt, that will lead to a huge debt. Due to addiction to gambling, it will give you a huge problem if you start to ask somebody money. If you really want to gamble, be sure you have enough money and well prepared. Playing or betting is some games should give you fun and excitement not debt. So be sure that you are responsible enough and you manage your money really well before you start to gamble.
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If you enter gambling out of desperation, it’s the same as simply throwing money into a burning fire. I will never go for such players. As for me, I bet on football matches to get a little fun and excitement in the game. It even brings a little joy, but not despair.

As well, gamblers who allow desperation to have a better part of them are those who gamble more than they can afford and so they try to chase back those loses. Gambling is not a source of income or living but a trier to multiply our bankroll so we can't afford to do gambling like all our lives depends on the winning for survival. Do a budget of the bankroll and when you exhaust it without winning then rest and play next time, this is the reasonable practice to gambling and that will not cause any gambler to be desparate but more people will get to that level if they keep depending on gambling to survive in this harsh economy.
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A man loses control when he allows excitement to completely take over his mind. In order to prevent this, you need to have a good command of meditation, practice yoga, take a number of psycho-training courses, and learn to control stress. And strictly adhere to a pre-determined plan of action

Yes, that means that gamblers can really get into the addiction fae unconsciously, none other than that because they are too happy with the sensation of excitement that they managed to get through winning at a certain moment, and after that I'm sure that in their minds or they mean they will assume that "it's very easy to get money by just gambling", I'm sure they will think like that. And after that yes they will continue to gamble with that false belief, so the conclusion is basically gambling addiction can come from anywhere, addiction can come from winning which makes you feel happy and addicted and also addiction can come from losing which makes you even more curious and doesn't want to stop gambling.

I think it's a good way as you suggested, it seems like it's true that they should do some ways to be able to make their minds calm and normal again one of them is like what you said, do meditation in a quiet place, exercise yoga and others, that's a good idea, with that I think they will be more able to control themselves because they have a pretty good awareness when gambling.
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Many gamblers have many trigger point to be honest. But commonly it’s often seen that, after losing a large portion of the bankroll, the gamblers, losses control and go all in with the remaining balance to cover the losses. But at this point of time, they should have slowed a bit and could have analysed to bet further. But this is the time, it is often seen that you bet blindly without thinking the outcome. It’s very hard to control ourselves, when the hard earned money vanishes in seconds.

That is exactly what happens when losses have caused frustration. Most times gambling losses for someone who is an addict and doesn't control himself throws in all, that is desperation to get what has been lost.

Desperation is not a good element for gambling, someone that is showing such sign will keep losing because he has lost control for proper analysis and to continue or to stop at the main time.
It reminds me of a little child crying and wanting a toy. He doesn’t want to listen to anyone, but his parents won’t give it to him, no matter how loudly he cries. No one can stop an adult player if he wants to win back, his mental and physical abilities allow him to achieve this.

If you enter gambling out of desperation, it’s the same as simply throwing money into a burning fire. I will never go for such players. As for me, I bet on football matches to get a little fun and excitement in the game. It even brings a little joy, but not despair.
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There is an opinion that the greatest dependence on gambling is formed at the moment of a big win. The player understands that money can be earned LIKE THIS. This is a fairly common opinion.

But I believe that the greatest dependence on gambling appears at the moment of loss, when the player admits in his head the idea that he could earn so much. He is disappointed, but wants to recoup. It is at this moment that the desire comes to play again and again in order to return to the previous state.

What do you think about it?
In cases like this there are many moments that can make a person lose control of gambling, even though he already has financial restrictions, what you mentioned is one example that indeed such things often happen to gamblers that ultimately make someone continue gambling, because they want to return to the best state before.

And usually because of that, their mentality also becomes bad, because they think they can return to their previous situation, even though they are even more in a downturn, and at that time what they have built before gambling to follow the rules is all destroyed by such a small mistake. emotional control is very important in cases like this, which if you have good emotional control, you will always be wiser in trying your luck even after winning, you play once more and then lose, you will still stop because you feel that the benefits of the previous multiples are still mostly on your side.

I think this kind of mistake is more likely in slot gamblers. Grin
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A man loses control when he allows excitement to completely take over his mind. In order to prevent this, you need to have a good command of meditation, practice yoga, take a number of psycho-training courses, and learn to control stress. And strictly adhere to a pre-determined plan of action
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Many gamblers have many trigger point to be honest. But commonly it’s often seen that, after losing a large portion of the bankroll, the gamblers, losses control and go all in with the remaining balance to cover the losses. But at this point of time, they should have slowed a bit and could have analysed to bet further. But this is the time, it is often seen that you bet blindly without thinking the outcome. It’s very hard to control ourselves, when the hard earned money vanishes in seconds.

That is exactly what happens when losses have caused frustration. Most times gambling losses for someone who is an addict and doesn't control himself throws in all, that is desperation to get what has been lost.

Desperation is not a good element for gambling, someone that is showing such sign will keep losing because he has lost control for proper analysis and to continue or to stop at the main time.
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The biggest mistake gamblers make is trying to recover their losses, that's why many end up becoming addicted, even though it is clear that addiction is very difficult to cure, that's why many experienced gamblers on this forum are always reminded to control themselves when gambling, don't gamble outside the limits so that they become Gambling addicted, gamblers who have experienced a lot of losses should not hope that they can be restored to normal.

You should limit your budget from the start so that you don't exceed your gambling limits so you can still control it well. but if you already realize that you are addicted, you should reduce your gambling activities because if you continue gambling it will get worse, don't become a gambler who loses control because that will drain all the money we have, play wisely because addiction comes from greedy behavior.
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The biggest addiction in gambling can occur when he experiences loss because, with that loss, he wants to recover his losses by continuing to gamble. If only he could think that continuing to gamble would not allow him to recover his losses and could actually result in greater losses. He must be able to overcome his disappointment so that he does not have the desire to continue gambling, which could result in even greater losses. But the reality is that there are still many people who rely on gambling to make money, even when they experience large losses. They still want to recover their losses and that makes them addicted to gambling.
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But I believe that the greatest dependence on gambling appears at the moment of loss, when the player admits in his head the idea that he could earn so much. He is disappointed, but wants to recoup. It is at this moment that the desire comes to play again and again in order to return to the previous state.

What do you think about it?

People a person commit to a thing they already know the risk, only dumb people will make a risk to things they don't know the possible outcome if this will become a win-win to their situation or at least to have a chance to get more of what they invested, they already know the possible risk and of course no matter what happen higher chance that the gambler still will play, imagine if the player wins the game for sure they will expect more because they experience the taste of winning, and other side is the person lose already and want to take the money and possible it will return with the first option this cycle will not break until the gambler realize they already addicted and make themselves back and control with this kind of activity.
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I think both are possible reasons to make the gambler lose control but thats is not always the case. Not everyone who wins big or losses big, losses control. Some choose to stay in control of the game and just enjoy it. Let us not hope for the worst.
Anyway, you see when some wins big, it creates overconfidence to win consistently that makes gambler hope that it can happen once again, that it is their time with luck. Then a significant loss can be emotionally distressing. The desire to regain what was lost then disappointment can drive compulsive behavior. Gamblers may think they can recover their losses and return to the previous state of success. Thats why I always think that regardless if it is a big win or loss, gamblers should learn to pause. Its our mind and emotions that pushes us to decide impulsively.


You've made a remarkable point, about staying in control. While gambling, the gambler holds full culpability on their decision. Whether to lose control or not. The demoralizing factor is their emotions on the results of other gamblers. Failing to acknowledge the individual difference in gambling experience, leads gamblers to choose a wrong route in decision making. A player that possesses critical thinking, has better advantage over others who don't. Continuously, playing games due to the outcome of another gambler's bet, restructures the self control of the gambler to think he deserves to win, like everyone else. If he is in control, what matters to others won't be meaningful to him. Hence, he'll move ahead with his conclusion of hitting the exit button. Notwithstanding the success of the player next to him. Healthy thoughts, facilitates in minimizing loss of control as gamblers. As the brain would keep reminding us of the repercussion of trying again; running broke. Which brings forth anxiety. When we win, it's superb and worth celebrating with more trial, to see if it's our most lucky day. But, the opposite may surface as a result. Then, our thoughts should also go to the opposite side. Gambling is a game of mind. Refusing to respect our instinct, is wrong, mainly in gambling. The possibility of experiencing a simultaneous win, isn't one in gambling. When a player wins twice or thrice in a roll, it's a trap. Though we call it luck. But, when the losses starts appearing, withdrawing from the initial happiness easily is very hard. The player wants to hit another joy again and again. Here, he'd lose all his wins, trying to regain the money he lost. What stopped him from stopping, needs to be studied.
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Both factors affect gamblers.

Loses is the worst of it IMO. If a gambler is winning most likely he may keep winning and even if he has lost control and start betting higher then it is to his advantage because he keeps making money. Moreover if he later start to lose, he is likely to run off with the remaining profit with him, at this stage he has the control to guide himself but not when he is losing. Losing in gambling makes you take even more wrong decisions because you want to either try other pattern to see if you will be lucky which is significant of the confirmation that you have lost control.

So someone who is winning his bet is likely not to change his system indicative of being in control but a losing person continuously changes system, indicative of losing control.

How many times do you think a person would continue winning his bets in a role without losing. That's where the win and lose syndrome comes to play with the instinct of the gambler. In a situation where he wins and along the line loses then wins again. Would he have the self control to stop playing and go home. It's like a more interesting day. And along the line the system begin to bring losses to him. The decision he takes during this period can determine the outcome of what would be his gambling experience that day; joy or sadness. As it's rare to just win consecutively without losing. But, players can lose consecutively, without having any win. In such a situation, then I'd agree with you, because he'll gamble more to see a win. And he'll greedily expect to see a big win. Most times the house would trick him by giving him a big win equivalent to all he's lost that day. At that moment if the player has strong self control, he can stop and try next time. But, because he believes winning follows after winning, he'll continue playing with same thoughts that before his bank roll exhausts he'll get a bigger win. There the house can sweep all the funds leaving him with nothing. In my previous response, you'd notice that even if the winner doesn't have the self discipline to stop, he'll blow it up and end up playing like he's been losing. That's why I'd suggest that both factors are alike and we must not be carried away by one more than the other. Although losing can be worst than winning, in taking decisions. Yet it still depends on the player.

Yes you have well buttressed my point about the advantage of having a winning more than losses or having a winning in the beginning. My point is if you have winning you can keep playing until you realized the losses have started coming and it is a chronic addict that would not run off with the little balance remaining. If I'm in such shoes of course I will take the decision to stop at the moment and wait to continue next time because I will also consider using the winning as a bankroll for the next time I will try. Anyway, for an addict, some of these reasoning may not matter.
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When does the moment come when the gambler loses control? My answer is after winning big just like yours after winning big and you had to loose even only once sometimes it triggers you to do more and more.

Or it will be heavily triggered if you have a lose streak never had single win and your budget for gambling is almost empty. I think this happens to everyone too
That's the main reason why gamblers loses their control, because they always think about the money they've spent, tendency to lose their control because they don't know how to reclaim their loses in gambling, especially if they have no money left in their bankrolls. Losing a large bet should be a sign to stop playing but some gamblers still continue to bet even they've lost so much money and I think they don't know when to stop even if they already build a self limitation and budget. Sometimes gamblers experiencing post-loss speeding, wherein they place a bet quicker after the loss out of frustration from losing the game which results to them to become more impulsive. So instead of becoming more cautious, they become reckless about their spending habits in gambling.
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It comes with both times of winning and losing. That is the reason why we think that we are good enough and wanted to go for more when we win. You can see the confidence for each of us when the time comes at that point.

And when we are losing, it is also the same. Because like the always talk we do about chasing our losses, that is how it is. The reason why we do not give up when we loss because we think that we can be so much better and will have a better result if we do for a couple more plays.
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There is an opinion that the greatest dependence on gambling is formed at the moment of a big win. The player understands that money can be earned LIKE THIS. This is a fairly common opinion.

But I believe that the greatest dependence on gambling appears at the moment of loss, when the player admits in his head the idea that he could earn so much. He is disappointed, but wants to recoup. It is at this moment that the desire comes to play again and again in order to return to the previous state.

What do you think about it?
Both assumptions are correct because people could react to wins and losses differently. Inexperienced gamblers who win big in their early days in gambling might assume that it is easy to win. This might make them depend on gambling wins to meet their needs because of the assumption that they can easily win. The other assumption is called loss chasing. This behavior is fueled by the feeling that you will recover your losses if you keep playing. But this is not always the case because playing more games doesn't guarantee more wins. Taking a break after constant loss is advisable and following a gambling budget is ideal.
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There are many ways to lose control of gambling. I believe most of it is when people want to regain their losses. And once they continue to lose beyond budget, that is when the real problem starts. Spending money outside of the regular budget or in a worst-case scenario is to borrow money from someone with interest. Imagine losing all the money borrowed with interest. It's either the borrower becomes paranoid or it becomes shameless prolonging the payment or even not paying it.

This is why it is so important for people to stick with their betting budget before starting. Also, there should be a time limit to avoid getting addicted.
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I think both are possible reasons to make the gambler lose control but thats is not always the case. Not everyone who wins big or losses big, losses control. Some choose to stay in control of the game and just enjoy it. Let us not hope for the worst.
Anyway, you see when some wins big, it creates overconfidence to win consistently that makes gambler hope that it can happen once again, that it is their time with luck. Then a significant loss can be emotionally distressing. The desire to regain what was lost then disappointment can drive compulsive behavior. Gamblers may think they can recover their losses and return to the previous state of success. Thats why I always think that regardless if it is a big win or loss, gamblers should learn to pause. Its our mind and emotions that pushes us to decide impulsively.

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Irrational behavior can happen after losing or winning. Our judgement is affected whenever we face extreme emotions. The euphoria from winning big may cause us to think that we've uncovered a genius strategy that is going to make us rich.

Similarly, when we suffer a great loss we will feel desperation and attempt to gain back what we have lost. It is even possible to feel both extremes during the same betting session — going from agony to enthusiasm and vice versa.
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